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00:00March 27th, at 11pm on Thursday.
00:04Four years have passed since Takanoboru, and the X-Year Relationship has begun!
00:09Over 80 events have been held by the creators of the movement,
00:14and we've dug deep into the details of the events.
00:17This time, we'll take a look at the product version,
00:21subculture version,
00:22and dialogue version, and play back the famous scenes.
00:26We'll start with the product version.
00:28We've talked a lot about the backstage of the invention that changed our lives.
00:34First,
00:36QR Codes!
00:39QR Codes are essential to our lives, such as payments and e-tickets.
00:46In the 2024 Paralympic Games, they will be used in traffic control systems,
00:51and are now spreading all over the world.
00:54The Japanese car parts manufacturer, Denso, was the one who created them.
01:00At the time, barcodes were used to manage parts in a car factory.
01:05However, the amount of information that could be stored was small,
01:08and they had to be used in large quantities.
01:13In addition, if the oil in the factory was even a little dirty,
01:17it was difficult to read accurately.
01:20That's how the development of QR Codes began.
01:27First, we set three goals.
01:31What should we do to make it happen?
01:36Barcodes are information about the width of the bar,
01:42so only a small amount of information can be stored.
01:44But QR Codes can store a lot of information.
01:47Another thing is that they can be read at high speed.
01:50You can read the QR Codes faster
01:52by putting a mark on the three QR Symbols.
01:55This mark is made up of a black and white ratio
01:58where the letters are composed,
02:01which is almost non-existent.
02:05This square shape has a shape,
02:07but this width can't be seen anywhere else?
02:09Yes, it's a shape that's almost not in the letters.
02:12But is it possible to go around a gothic body like this?
02:15Yes, it's possible.
02:17But the ratio is set to 1 to 1 to 3 to 1 to 1.
02:21In the case of a gothic body,
02:23it's usually 1 to 4 to 4.
02:25The width of the bar is wide,
02:28so the ratio of letters is almost non-existent.
02:32It's amazing that there's no other shape
02:34that's so simple.
02:36It was the most difficult thing to find.
02:38How do you find it?
02:40How do you find it?
02:42I don't know how to find it.
02:43When I was thinking about what characteristics
02:47could be distinguished from letters,
02:50when I chose a complex shape,
02:53it took me a long time to recognize the shape on the computer.
02:57If the computer processes it quickly,
02:59it's like a bar ratio.
03:01I don't know if there's a pattern
03:04that doesn't have a ratio in letters,
03:07but I did a lot of things,
03:09but I couldn't think of anything.
03:11So I thought I'd actually look it up,
03:12and I took a picture of everything,
03:15such as newspapers and magazines,
03:18and we made a software
03:20to measure the width.
03:22As a result of the investigation,
03:24the first black is 1,
03:26the next white is 1,
03:28the next black is 3,
03:30the next white is 1,
03:32and the next black is 1.
03:34It's not that there's nothing at all,
03:36but it's extremely small.
03:38I found it, and I adopted it to this code.
03:40If there was no clear symbol,
03:41it would take about 5 seconds to read it.
03:45With this,
03:47you can distinguish between letters,
03:49and by placing it in these three corners,
03:52when you read it on the camera,
03:54you can see the code here,
03:56and you can see the size of the code in an instant,
03:58so you can read it quickly.
04:00Is all the data in the QR code 0, 1,
04:03or is it divided like this
04:06in this space?
04:08No, it's not like that.
04:11If you make a list of letters,
04:14and put the numbers in order,
04:16you just put the data in order like this.
04:19The real data is this much.
04:22The information you put in.
04:24Other than that,
04:26the thing that's strong against dirt
04:28is that there's a lot of data
04:30other than that
04:32that's strong against dirt.
04:35To put it simply,
04:37to put it figuratively,
04:38it's like a number press.
04:41It goes from 1 to 9,
04:43and according to a certain rule,
04:45you can see the number from 1 to 9.
04:48It's like that.
04:50I see.
04:51So, if you can see 3 of these 9 spaces,
04:54you can see that this is the only one here.
04:57Yes, that's the image.
04:59That's where you put in the function
05:01that allows you to predict the dirt.
05:03I see.
05:04So, you can reproduce 30% of the code area.
05:07At that time,
05:09the data on the growth rate
05:11and the data on the prediction
05:13is about 70% of the data.
05:15So, it's mostly data on the prediction.
05:18So, it's a design that's supposed to be dirty.
05:20That's right.
05:22This is what we were able to do
05:24because we were in the automobile parts manufacturer.
05:26If I were in an IT company,
05:28I wouldn't have thought about such dirty things.
05:30It would have been more rational.
05:32That's right.
05:34On the contrary, it would have been difficult to read.
05:36I don't know why an automobile parts manufacturer
05:39was able to make something like this.
05:41But I think that's what makes it possible.
05:45This is how the world's first product,
05:48the QR code, was born.
05:50But it was decided that it would be
05:52made into a public domain,
05:54which would not be used.
05:56If it was made into a public domain,
05:58wouldn't there be a moment
06:00when you think,
06:02if we had done it better,
06:04we would have made a huge profit?
06:05I'm an engineer.
06:08Basically, I'd be happier
06:10if it was used all over the world
06:12rather than made a profit.
06:14In that sense, I think the public domain
06:16was the right choice.
06:18If it wasn't made into a public domain,
06:20I personally think it would have ended
06:22with the Toyota Code
06:24that was used in the Toyota Group.
06:26I'm a salesman,
06:28so I think about it
06:30about once a year.
06:32I sometimes think
06:33that the QR code would have sold well.
06:36But as Mr. Hara said,
06:38if the QR code expands,
06:40I think we'll have
06:42a business chance.
06:44If the QR code expands,
06:46we'll be able to use it
06:48in various ways.
06:50For example, hardware,
06:52systems, solutions,
06:54things like that.
06:56I think we'll be able to provide
06:58those things.
07:00Right now, we're focusing on that.
07:02This is how the world's first product,
07:05the QR code, was born.
07:09The next product to be played back
07:12is the era of high-density growth machines.
07:15It's the era of mass production
07:17that can be made and sold.
07:19As an adhesive that greatly increases
07:22the efficiency of work,
07:24the industrial-grade Alon Alpha was released.
07:27Eight years later,
07:29Japan's first home-made
07:30instant adhesive was released.
07:34However,
07:36the industrial-grade Alon Alpha
07:38was too high-spec,
07:40so there were many difficulties
07:42in improving it to make it easier
07:44to use for home use.
07:46Among them,
07:47the most difficult part was
07:49the new development of the container.
07:51The container was designed
07:53to hold the adhesive
07:55that would stick to anything.
07:57The development that seems to be
07:58the most difficult part
08:00was the absolute requirement
08:01of productization.
08:03There's a saying that
08:05if you have a sand or alkali
08:07that can dissolve anything,
08:09there's no reason to preserve it.
08:11I think it's similar to that.
08:13If anything sticks to it,
08:15how can I surround it?
08:18The factory in Toyama
08:20was entrusted with this important mission.
08:23Why was it Toyama?
08:26In Toyama Prefecture,
08:29there's a pharmaceutical company
08:31called Toyama Pharmaceuticals.
08:33Toyama Pharmaceuticals
08:35has been around for a long time.
08:37There are many pharmaceutical companies.
08:39There are many pharmaceutical companies
08:41who make medicines
08:43and put them in containers.
08:45For example,
08:47there are many companies
08:49that make eye drops containers.
08:51There are many companies
08:53that cooperate with them
08:54to make eye drops containers.
08:57We can keep them for a long time
08:59while blocking the moisture
09:01that's the key to the eye drops.
09:03We developed a container
09:05that can maintain
09:07its liquid state
09:09with the manufacturer.
09:11I see.
09:12It's perfectly sealed
09:14until you open the lid,
09:16but once you open it,
09:18more and more water comes in.
09:20It seems like a lot of work.
09:22In order to make a container
09:23that can maintain its liquid state,
09:25you need to design it
09:27so that it doesn't touch the water.
09:29That's how we came up with
09:31the double structure
09:33that is now known as
09:35the Aron Alpha.
09:37Even if there's a little
09:39moisture in the air,
09:41the contents will solidify,
09:43so how do we block
09:45the moisture in the air?
09:47That's why we made a double structure.
09:49Also, the outer case,
09:51the outer cover,
09:52has a drying agent inside.
09:55Oh, really?
09:57Oh, I see.
09:59I didn't know that.
10:02Has it always been like this?
10:04Yes, it has.
10:06When the product was sold,
10:08the drying agent
10:10was only included,
10:12but there was a problem
10:14that children
10:16would swallow it,
10:18so we decided to
10:20incorporate it
10:21into the product.
10:24In order to shut out
10:26a small amount of moisture,
10:28we added a drying agent
10:30to the double structure
10:32that blocks moisture.
10:34In addition,
10:36the product needs to be
10:38completely sealed
10:40so that it doesn't touch
10:42the moisture in the air
10:44when it's being sold.
10:46So we chose a form
10:48that can be pierced
10:49so that it doesn't touch
10:52the moisture in the air
10:54when it's being sold.
10:56With this,
10:58the researchers
11:00started to improve
11:02the product even more.
11:04Then,
11:06a rocket-shaped container
11:08was born.
11:10Why did it become like this?
11:12The thinner the tip,
11:14the easier it is to apply.
11:16To make it easier to apply,
11:17we made it rocket-shaped.
11:20Also,
11:21by making it thinner
11:23and easier to grip,
11:25it became more like a rocket.
11:28I see.
11:29I see this shape
11:31quite often now,
11:33but at the time,
11:35wasn't this the only
11:37type of instant adhesive?
11:39Was the Aron Alpha the original?
11:41Yes, the Aron Alpha was the original.
11:43The double structure
11:45is completely sealed
11:46and improved over and over again.
11:49Finally,
11:50the Aron Alpha-specific container was completed.
11:53Then,
11:55in 1971,
11:57the home-made Aron Alpha was released.
12:00In this way,
12:01more than half a century after its release,
12:04the Aron Alpha,
12:05which is now an indispensable part of the family,
12:08was born.
12:10In addition,
12:11the Sony of the world developed
12:13the BIO and
12:14was the direct successor
12:16to the Aron Alpha.
12:17The development team of
12:20Kinnokonoyama and Takenokonosato
12:22also worked on the product.
12:23Sounds good.
12:25And next.
12:28Today, we are talking about subculture.
12:31In the program,
12:33we have invited some legends
12:35who have supported Japanese subculture.
12:37First of all,
12:39The name is Gacchaman.
12:41the science ninja Gachaman
12:43Tatsunoko Pro, who created the Time Bokan series, starting with Yatterman,
12:49will gather the legends and approach the backstage.
12:54Even if I don't get paid, I'd like to do this kind of work.
12:58It's a great phrase to explain, isn't it?
13:02Well, of course.
13:05The air in the room.
13:07Did you know that there are a lot of harmful substances in the air?
13:11For example, dust such as bed makeup and dandruff scatter like this.
13:19There are more than 100,000 dandruff in one futon.
13:26These substances will eventually fall to the floor over time,
13:31but they will be buried in the air again every time you walk.
13:35Dandruff allergens are found about 1 to 1.5 meters above the floor.
13:42I think the height of a small child's mouth is about 30 to 50 centimeters above the floor.
13:48There are a lot of allergens there, so I think you should be careful of the air environment.
13:55So, air dog.
13:57Air dogs breathe in from below and emit clean air above.
14:02So, before it falls to the floor, it is sucked in.
14:06You can clean the air in your room more efficiently.
14:13As a result of the test, it is possible to remove more than 99% of dandruff, mold, pollen, and pet allergens.
14:25In addition, even viruses smaller than pollen, bacteria, and PM2.5
14:32can remove 99.9% of dandruff.
14:36That's why more than 12,000 medical facilities around the country are introducing air dogs.
14:44The world's strongest level of air purifier air dog
14:48can be purchased from the free trial or official website.
14:53First, search for air dog.
15:02Next, the subculture.
15:04In the program, we have featured many legends who have supported Japanese subculture.
15:09First, an amateur group who had never made an anime before set up a production company
15:14and sent the first work to the world one after another.
15:18The name of the company is Tatsunoko Pro.
15:21Sometimes five, sometimes one.
15:24A white shadow that sneaks in without showing its true form.
15:27The shadow warrior of justice, the Science Ninja Team.
15:30What?
15:31The name is Gatchaman!
15:35Gatchaman, the Science Ninja Team, began broadcasting in 1972.
15:40I won't tell you.
15:41You idiot, you're the one who's going to tell me.
15:43I won't tell you.
15:45I won't tell you.
15:47I won't tell you.
15:49I won't tell you.
15:51I won't tell you.
15:53Do you want to do it? I'll beat you up.
15:55That's right, I'll beat you up.
15:57Come on, come on, come on.
15:59The Time Bokan series is the beginning of Gatchaman.
16:04In addition, the Action Demon King.
16:06The story of the insect, Minashigo Hatch.
16:09There is SF, there is gag, there is impression.
16:12A wide range of hits in a row.
16:14In the program, we invite legends who have created a brilliant masterpiece in Japanese anime history.
16:21The first is Hiroshi Sasagawa, who launched Tatsunoko Pro with founder Tatsuo Yoshida.
16:29He was the general director of the Time Bokan series and created a number of phrases through gag lines.
16:36The second is Kunio Okawara, who designed Gatchaman and Yatterman's mecha designs and Gundam's mobile suits.
16:45The third is Yoshitaka Amano, who joined Tatsunoko Pro at the age of 15.
16:49He created a number of characters and also worked on the Final Fantasy series.
16:56Mr. Amano joined Tatsunoko Pro at the age of 15 two years after Space Ace.
17:01At the age of 15?
17:03When I was in junior high school, my childhood friend went to Tokyo.
17:10I went to see him.
17:12I found Tatsunoko Pro in the neighborhood.
17:14I thought I'd draw something if I could.
17:17I liked drawing, so I took it with me.
17:19Then I was adopted.
17:22It's a pretty grand style.
17:26I wasn't interested in anime or manga at all.
17:31I often read about it in various books.
17:34I wasn't interested at all.
17:36I didn't think it was that stupid.
17:40I applied for a job at a newspaper job interview.
17:44I wasn't interested.
17:46I got a job because I was going to get married, so I couldn't quit.
17:50I see.
17:52You don't have any passion at all.
17:54I don't have any passion.
17:57The person I was going to marry was from the same country, so we were pretty close.
18:01I thought it would be convenient.
18:03You were chosen by the distance.
18:06Tatsunoko Pro produced a number of gag works.
18:10Mr. Satagawa directed most of them.
18:14The Time Bokan series was broadcast from 1975 to 2008.
18:22The second work, Yatterman, was very popular.
18:27Yatterman uses a mecha to control a group of three people who are trying to steal a skull stone.
18:37Many gag phrases were born from Yatterman.
18:43For example...
18:44You're good.
18:46You're a man.
18:47You're a good man.
18:49You have a nice beard.
18:50Your eyes are shining.
18:51You have a nice nose.
18:53Don't move.
18:54I told you not to move.
18:58You're a good man.
19:02Damn it!
19:04Yatterman, don't let him get away!
19:06That's a mecha robot!
19:08Let me explain.
19:09This is amazing.
19:10This is a mecha robot.
19:11This is Yatterman's energy source.
19:13After eating this, Yatterman creates a powerful robot.
19:17Wow!
19:20The phrase, let me explain, is amazing.
19:24In a manga, it's natural to explain the situation when a square comes out.
19:31But as a producer, I don't have to say, let me explain.
19:36It's a great invention.
19:38Of course, no one thinks it's a great invention.
19:42But it's amazing that you came up with the phrase, let me explain.
19:50The phrase, let me explain, is amazing.
19:56I'm from Fukushima Prefecture.
20:02I've heard this phrase before.
20:04You've heard it before?
20:05Yes.
20:06I don't know where it came from.
20:09A country boy told me about it.
20:11I remember that phrase.
20:13So I put it in the show.
20:16You lived in a country with a lot of sense.
20:19It's amazing that you came up with this phrase.
20:22On the other hand, Mr. Amano, who was in charge of all the character designs for Time Bokan, had a unique problem.
20:31At first, it was called Time Bokan.
20:33It was a sci-fi game.
20:35That was the first time.
20:37Yatterman was the next.
20:40How was the story of Time Bokan at first?
20:45It was a little more serious.
20:48It was called Mahjong.
20:51The story changed every year.
20:56From Yatterman to Yattretaman.
20:59There was also Ippatsuman.
21:01But the story of Time Bokan didn't change.
21:03Basically, the position is the same.
21:05But it's not the same costume.
21:08I had to change it little by little every time.
21:10You had a hard time.
21:12I had to change it even if it was almost the same.
21:15The location is the same.
21:17I didn't know at all because I wasn't studying.
21:19I didn't know at all that my career started with anime character design.
21:23I thought it was from Gafu, Yoga, and Crimto.
21:27I like that too.
21:29At first, I thought it was a gag work.
21:33That's right.
21:34I was asked to do a lot of things.
21:37As a result, I made a character.
21:40As a result of making a wide range of characters, it became a blood-soaked work.
21:43That's right.
21:45I think it was the same for the mecha.
21:47Mr. Ogura had a hard time.
21:49He had to make a new mecha.
21:52A gag mecha that is indispensable to all three evils.
21:56I can't wait for the surprise mecha to launch!
22:00Various mechas have livened up the work as this week's surprise mecha.
22:16Mr. Ogura also designed this gag mecha.
22:21It's like a different style from the Gundam he'll be working on later.
22:27At first, when I was working on Time Bokan,
22:31I was only working on Yagomarin, which is at the bottom of the Mechagodzilla.
22:39After I did it, Mr. Mitsuki Nakamura said,
22:43Why don't you try what you've been doing so far?
22:46I've never done a gag before, so I took on the challenge.
22:50Fortunately, I was able to do 105 of them.
22:54I learned in the meantime that I should make a gag work with this kind of taste.
23:00If you experience both the SF mecha and the gag mecha,
23:06you can do anything in between.
23:10You can do both.
23:12Which one is more difficult to design?
23:15I prefer the gag mecha.
23:19Oh, really?
23:21It's a great challenge.
23:23Even if I fail, I won't complain.
23:27So even if I don't get paid, I'd like to do that kind of work.
23:33When I read another book,
23:36Mr. Okawara, when you design a mecha,
23:39do you imagine when it moves or moves properly?
23:43I heard that you were conscious of that, especially in BOTOMS and DAGRAM.
23:46After all, I prefer to make things than to draw.
23:50Most of the time, toy shops are the sponsors.
23:54After all, it's faster to make a mock-up here and present it as a product like this.
24:02I don't like drawing very much, so I really want to compete with that.
24:07So it's faster to make a product than to explain it in a picture?
24:10Yes, it's faster.
24:11And I don't have to draw many pictures.
24:13Is it okay not to worry about the movement of the gag work?
24:17After all, I don't lie about making it three-dimensional.
24:20I see.
24:21I can't forgive myself for drawing a vague picture.
24:27Even if it's a gag, even if it's a mock-up, I can transform it into a mecha.
24:35It's a great talent.
24:37Do you have a three-dimensional image in your head?
24:41I think ordinary people have a three-dimensional image in their heads.
24:45No, I don't.
24:47I think it's just putting it out.
24:50After that, Yatterman became a national anime with a viewing rate of 28.4%, which is the highest in Hatsunoko anime.
25:02The next subculture to be played back is Macross, a popular sci-fi robot anime series that has been going on for more than 40 years.
25:15It is a story about the power of the heroine's song that transcends race to bring peace to the universe.
25:30VK18 works, including the OVA series 7 titles, have been released, and idol voice actors and real action figures have been incorporated into the current Akiba culture.
25:48This time, we will play back the backstage of Mr. Itano, who was in charge of the battle scene in Macross.
25:58I think Mr. Itano's performance was a very innovative performance that gave birth to the word Itano Circus.
26:05Mr. Itano's great name, Itano Circus.
26:09Here's a scene where you can see how amazing it is.
26:29It's pretty amazing.
26:34Mr. Itano's performance is different from other anime, isn't it?
26:40The performance of the missiles is different.
26:42I've seen this in various literature, but how do you draw missiles?
26:48I drew three types of missiles. Serious missiles, stupid missiles, and genius missiles.
26:58It's a personality.
27:00Serious missiles chase you with radar tracking.
27:05It's too serious to chase the heat and the radar's reflection, so it doesn't hit you.
27:13The genius missile goes ahead of the aircraft's trajectory.
27:18It goes ahead of the aircraft's trajectory, hits it, and explodes.
27:22It's programmed with the pilot's performance and the aircraft's performance.
27:27It's a deep learning AI that knows exactly what's going on.
27:30The other one is a stupid missile.
27:32It doesn't have to hit me.
27:34If I get close to it, it will spread and explode.
27:38I just need to damage it a little bit.
27:41Before that, I'm going to shoot the camera.
27:44There's a guy in the back doing this.
27:46If you shoot the camera in front of you, you'll get hit by a stupid missile.
27:49Originally, missiles should have a lot of good performance, so they should be AI missiles.
27:56By adding features, the trajectory changes.
28:01There are three types of trajectories.
28:03It's not just flying straight and shooting in the distance like a news source.
28:08It's not just an explanation of a jet plane flying by and a missile hitting it.
28:12It's more exciting.
28:15And there's a lot of trajectory in the air.
28:17The smoke is flowing.
28:19The feeling of the flowing smoke is what makes the Itano Circus.
28:22That's why it's called a natto missile.
28:24It's like a string of natto.
28:25It doesn't pull the smoke.
28:27The flow of it feels good.
28:29And it's cool to avoid it.
28:32What's amazing about the Itano Circus is that it's flying three types of missiles.
28:36It's blowing a lot of smoke, but it's positioned so that the aircraft can be seen.
28:41It's avoiding the camera.
28:45There's a chaser.
28:47How do you imagine it in your head?
28:50The one in the back is a three-frame shot.
28:52The one in the front is a one-frame shot.
28:53The one in the middle is a two-frame shot.
28:55They're all in different frames.
28:59The atmosphere and time are also deformed.
29:03The one in the front is much faster.
29:06When I was working on Macross,
29:08I talked about training the children's visual acuity.
29:13When I was working on Gundam, everyone kept telling me that it was too fast.
29:17I was able to get all the points.
29:20Macross was the one that got rid of all of that.
29:23Based on this theory, let's take a look at the previous scene again.
29:29This is the accurate shot of the missile.
29:37There's one in front of me.
29:48It's moving so fast.
29:51The number of frames is also incredible.
29:54In those five seconds, there were more than 110 frames.
29:57How many frames are there in five seconds?
30:00Eight frames per second.
30:02So it's about three times as fast.
30:04Yes.
30:05This is probably my limit.
30:09I thought it would be 3D after this.
30:13I seriously challenged my limits.
30:18When I worked on Macross Plus,
30:20I often talked to Mr. Itano about how it was like the last friendly anime.
30:23It was like the last friendly anime, not the last friendly fighter.
30:28Macross Plus, which became the cornerstone of the Itano Circus,
30:32was highly acclaimed overseas and became one of the masterpieces of anime.
30:38In addition, the air gun, which caused a big boom in collections and survival games,
30:48It's amazing.
30:51The Fuji Rock Festival, which is the pinnacle of Japanese rock festivals,
30:55was the first stage of the legendary festival.
31:01After this is the conversation.
31:03The legend talks about the backstage of the production of Dragon Quest, which is world-famous.
31:09He thought it was a wind system.
31:12This is innovative.
31:13It's like Dragon Quest.
31:16I thought it was hard to hear, but my voice was small.
31:20I tried to listen desperately.
31:22Then I get tired.
31:24When I watch TV, I want to turn up the volume.
31:30Sometimes I can't hear it.
31:33Solving everyone's problems
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31:53I can get into the conversation.
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33:24We have dug up the unknown backstage of the legends of each industry.
33:30First is...
33:32Dragon Quest III and the Legends.
33:36Dragon Quest, a limited-edition role-playing game that sells more than 90 million copies in the series.
33:44The third work is a social phenomenon, such as having a long line at a household store.
33:50This time, the creator of Dragon Quest, game designer Yuji Horii.
33:56And at the young age of 20, he was the main programmer and director of Dragon Quest.
34:02Koichi Nakamura.
34:05The two core members of the production team and the popular RPG, the world-famous hit,
34:11tell the story of how it was born.
34:16The production team is also joined by Akira Toriyama, a major hit maker of boy manga.
34:22And Koichi Sugiyama, a Japanese composer.
34:28Dragon Quest was created with these four people in mind.
34:32It was a new genre of RPG that was established in Japan, where action games were the mainstream.
34:40He came up with the wind system.
34:43That was revolutionary.
34:45Speaking of Dragon Quest...
34:47In previous games, you had to select a command,
34:52but in Dragon Quest, you had to select a command and a system that added to it.
34:59How did Mr. Nakamura come up with this revolutionary system?
35:06Oh, I remember! Stairs and doors.
35:09That's right!
35:11You couldn't turn right or left.
35:14You had to look up the directions.
35:18On the Famicom, you only had the up, down, left, right, and A, B buttons.
35:23So you had to use magic and other complicated tools.
35:28But the map was always there,
35:31so you couldn't lose your sense of position.
35:38At the time, in the world of high-end computers,
35:41the wind system was just starting to become popular.
35:44So I thought, maybe I can do something about this.
35:49When you get used to the command window in Dragon Quest,
35:55you learn how to operate it.
35:58So you input a complicated command,
36:02and then you can cast a spell or use a tool.
36:07I think that was the beginning of the success of Dragon Quest.
36:14The two of them had been working hard to make RPGs fun,
36:20but there was a big obstacle in the way.
36:25There wasn't a lot of capacity on the Famicom.
36:29Compared to action games, there was a lot of text information.
36:34And the scenes were completely different.
36:38So there was a lot of data.
36:40You must have done a lot of research.
36:42It wasn't just research.
36:44You had to use all kinds of technology to generate memory.
36:49When I was making Dragon Quest, it was a battle against memory.
36:55The Famicom didn't have the capacity to store all kinds of ideas.
37:02First of all, the capacity of the Famicom was 64 kilobytes.
37:07Was that the amount of data you could send in one second on the ISDN?
37:11If you took a picture on your smartphone,
37:15it would take about two megabytes.
37:18So it was about 1 in 32.
37:23So if you took a picture, you'd have 32 Dragon Quest games in it.
37:27If you had the technology at the time, you could make up to 32 Dragon Quest games.
37:32The two of them worked on innovative methods one after another
37:36to make a grand story with limited capacity.
37:41When I made Portopia with Mr. Horii,
37:44I had a lot of know-how in terms of text compression.
37:47How many characters did you use for the katakana?
37:50There were only about 20 characters.
37:53For example, we used hiragana for he and ri.
37:57There were also a lot of characters that didn't have katakana.
38:01I looked it up myself.
38:03In Track A1 and Track A2,
38:05when I found out that the word monster didn't come up in the game,
38:09I was like, oh, the word monster came up later.
38:13At first, it was all monsters.
38:16At first, it was because there were a lot of monsters.
38:19At first, it was a three-character word, but it became a five-character word.
38:23You really did a lot of things like that.
38:27I tried to cut it down.
38:29There were only 10 magic weapons.
38:32Girabe, Girama, Hoimi.
38:34Remira!
38:35Wow, that's nostalgic.
38:37Remira. It's a torch.
38:40Was the torch system not very popular?
38:46When I thought about it later, I didn't need it that much.
38:51When I tried it, it got narrower and darker.
38:55It's inconvenient.
38:57I thought it was good at first.
39:00In terms of having fun in a small space,
39:04I want you to experience it for the first time.
39:08When you first put in the spell, which one did you put in first?
39:13It's Hoimi, the healing spell.
39:16The name and the unique five-character word are Hori's inspiration.
39:20This is Hori's technique.
39:22I always think it's amazing.
39:24It's a Dragon Quest that's been fighting such capacity.
39:29In the boom, 3 saved capacity in a bold way.
39:35There's no title logo.
39:37Oh, I see.
39:39There's only a small font called Dragon Quest 3.
39:431, 2, 2, it's so beautiful.
39:45Did you cut this out without crying?
39:47I cut it out without crying.
39:49It doesn't fit in.
39:51There's a lot of capacity.
39:53Without the logo, the memory came out a lot.
39:57I happened to be talking to the staff at the time.
40:02What he remembered was that he cut out a whole town, including the title logo.
40:08There was a murder in that town.
40:12There was a town where we talked about it and solved it.
40:16I lost a whole town.
40:18Was there a mystery element?
40:20I cut out a lot of monsters, too.
40:22I remember Sugiyama-sensei cutting out songs without crying.
40:27He quit a whole song.
40:30Fighting such various hardships,
40:3311 numbered titles and 100 spin-offs were released.
40:39It became a big hit series that is loved and enjoyed all over the world.
40:49When it gets cold,
40:51refreshing feeling,
40:53momentum,
40:54refreshing feeling,
40:56if you're curious, this is it!
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41:00You think you're the only one, don't you?
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41:29I don't think it's because I'm old,
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42:51Naoki Urasawa.
42:53He has won many manga awards.
42:55He is a 20th century boy who was made into a film with his first trilogy.
43:02He is a mystery manga, Master Keaton,
43:04which was also talked about in the setting of the main character.
43:07He has sent many hit works to the world.
43:10He is a manga artist who represents Japan,
43:12with more than 1.4 million copies worldwide.
43:17Naoki Urasawa
43:19In Naoki Urasawa's work,
43:21we look back at
43:24Yawara, a Judo manga that sparked the Judo boom.
43:31Yawara, a genius Judo girl,
43:33wants to be a normal girl.
43:35She hates Judo,
43:37but this story makes her talent bloom.
43:40The story began when Judo became an official Olympic sport.
43:45It was 6 years ago.
43:49There is a birth story.
43:53When I made my debut,
43:55I had many meetings with the editors.
43:58At the time, I was trying to do a story about a monster.
44:01The editor was a sports fan.
44:05He was a baseball fan of Nijihamu.
44:08When I talked about the Nijihamu game,
44:10I was out of breath.
44:13So I said,
44:15let's talk about the hospital story.
44:17Suddenly,
44:19he made a boring face.
44:22It's the worst reason to quit your job.
44:25It continued for 2 or 3 times.
44:27I thought he wasn't enjoying the story I was trying to do.
44:32So I thought,
44:34why did I say that?
44:36At that time, I thought,
44:38let's write a Judo manga.
44:41At that time,
44:43Judo was the least popular sport.
44:46There was no one doing it in the club.
44:49You had to do it at home.
44:51I said,
44:53let's write a Judo manga.
44:55Then, he looked at me with sparkling eyes.
44:58In 5 or 10 minutes,
45:01the main character, Yawara,
45:04wrote in alphabet,
45:06Y-A-W-A.
45:08I said,
45:10let's make it a parody.
45:12So, I spent 5 or 10 minutes
45:14drawing a picture.
45:16I said,
45:18this is Yawara.
45:20I was half stupid.
45:22Then,
45:24he said,
45:26why don't you write this?
45:28I said,
45:30I don't want to.
45:32I said,
45:34I don't want to make a big hit.
45:37If there was a needle,
45:39it would touch the red zone.
45:41That was the atmosphere.
45:43But,
45:45it's a genre
45:47that I don't have
45:49my own opinion.
45:51Do you have a work
45:53that you don't do?
45:55I've never done
45:57a work that I don't do.
45:59I don't like
46:01a work that
46:03I don't do.
46:05You don't like a work
46:07that you don't do.
46:09Or,
46:11it's a work that
46:13only you know?
46:15I think you know.
46:17I want to make a work
46:19that only 2 or 3 people
46:21in my class know.
46:23I see.
46:25If so,
46:27it's too popular.
46:29It's not good at all.
46:31I want to write a manga
46:33that I've never seen before.
46:35If someone asks me
46:37to write a sports manga,
46:39I always say no.
46:41Many sports manga
46:43are successful.
46:45But,
46:47if I write a sports manga,
46:49I think it's not a sports manga
46:51at all.
46:53That's my approach.
46:55By doing so,
46:57what I'm trying to do
46:59is to attract readers
47:01to my manga.
47:03You can spread the manga
47:05but you can also do
47:07what you want to do.
47:09Yes.
47:11So, I thought about
47:13writing a manga about
47:15Roman Holiday and
47:17The Wife is a Witch.
47:19I wanted to write a manga
47:21secretly.
47:23So, you're not a target.
47:25You're in front of people.
47:27That's right.
47:29But, you're sure
47:31you're not a target.
47:33You're sure
47:35you're not a target.
47:37Yes.
47:39I thought
47:41readers would read
47:43without noticing.
47:45But, I thought
47:47readers would read
47:49without noticing.
47:51I thought readers would
47:53read without noticing.
47:55By attracting readers,
47:57readers would read
47:59when I write a manga.
48:01That's why I did it.
48:03So, you mean
48:05readers would not notice
48:07when you did it.
48:09Yes.
48:11It's more likely to be popular
48:13when it's popular.
48:15I see.
48:17It's more likely to be popular
48:19when it's popular.
48:21It's more likely to be popular
48:23I didn't understand it at all.
48:25Also, when it comes to animation,
48:27there's a lot of readers,
48:29especially girls in their 4th year of elementary school.
48:32People who didn't expect it at all,
48:36or people who didn't intend to draw at all,
48:39started to read my manga.
48:42Are there people who started judo because of that?
48:45There are a lot of people.
48:47You didn't aim for it at all, did you?
48:49I changed the Judo Association of Japan.
48:51At that time, it wasn't an official event,
48:53so it was an exhibition match at the next Seoul Olympics.
48:56The official event was Barcelona.
48:59I was joking about drawing until then.
49:05Until it became an official event in Barcelona,
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49:49Mr. Kazuhiko Torishima, the editor-in-chief, and I have been having a conversation with him.
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52:57In addition to looking back this time,
52:59X-MEN-GO officials have dug up the backstage of various movements.
53:05The movement that was the youth of X-MEN-GO.
53:09Announcement from such a program.
53:11Broadcast time will change from April to Thursday night at 9 o'clock.
53:15The first episode will be broadcast on April 3rd.
53:18A catchy copy of the sound is familiar to those who are beautiful.
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53:36Next time, Xiao Wesson.
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