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00:00This time, we have Yoshizumi with us.
00:09Do you know about this show?
00:11Yes, I do. I'm a fan of eroticism.
00:13Oh, I see.
00:15That's why you're part of the Miminohana family.
00:19Since Makubo-san is not here, we have a rule that you have to come to the Miminohana family every time.
00:25If you say my name on the show, I'll be part of the family?
00:27Of course.
00:28Today, we have a special guest with us.
00:32Hello.
00:33Nice to meet you.
00:35I'm Mukai Pansamukai.
00:37Nice to meet you.
00:38Thank you for coming.
00:40Well...
00:42I didn't want to come.
00:44Finally.
00:45Miminohana Kappojitte Kiku
00:48Today's theme is
00:50Mukai Pansamukai's eroticism.
00:54I'm going to show you what I've drawn.
00:59Yamasato-san and Higashino-san did this before.
01:04Yamasato-san gave me his name.
01:08He said I should look at Mukai's notebook.
01:11Yamasato-san said that during the show and behind the scenes.
01:15So I brought a part of it.
01:20Well...
01:23Wait a minute.
01:24It's a part of it.
01:25Really?
01:26I have a part of it.
01:30This is a campus notebook.
01:33I drew this when I was in NSC.
01:36In 2005.
01:38I drew the details of what I was told during the show and behind the scenes.
01:45That's amazing.
01:4720 years ago.
01:48At that time, I liked bright and pure comedy.
01:55I wanted to be popular.
01:57It was a bright and sparkling notebook.
02:01When I started drawing,
02:04there were many things to do.
02:07The color of the notebook changed.
02:10You didn't want to put it on.
02:12I didn't want to put it on.
02:15I drew many things.
02:17What did you draw?
02:19I drew a lot.
02:21When I was really popular, I drew red.
02:26When I was really popular, I drew red.
02:32The first notebook is a notebook for male entertainers.
02:38The entertainer who said he was popular with women is always popular with men.
02:43Who is he?
02:47It's getting serious.
02:50When we got more jobs,
02:54we were the most popular.
02:59That's the reason.
03:02People didn't like it.
03:05At that time, it was amazing.
03:07There was no time to recognize diversity.
03:12There was no time.
03:13There was no time to recognize diversity.
03:16There was no time to recognize diversity.
03:19Especially in the entertainment world.
03:22He has many male fans.
03:26I thought he was very happy.
03:28He says this to those who can't tune in.
03:32He says this to those who can't tune in.
03:40Even if we won the first place in a ranking show,
03:45I thought he was popular with women.
03:48I thought he was popular with women.
03:51I thought he was popular with men.
03:55I thought he was popular with men.
03:59I thought he was happy.
04:03He has many male fans.
04:07I thought he was popular with men.
04:10I thought, what is he?
04:12I thought, what is he?
04:15He said, I don't listen to radio.
04:18He said, I don't listen to radio.
04:20He doesn't listen to radio.
04:22He uses it like fashion.
04:26He uses it like fashion.
04:27He likes radio.
04:29He doesn't listen to radio.
04:32I think both sides are the same.
04:36If I say I'm popular, you're popular.
04:39If I don't say I'm popular, you're popular.
04:44Only the one who is attacking is superior.
04:48He can't tune in.
04:51He says this to those who can't tune in.
04:55That's good.
04:57That's good.
05:00I think so.
05:02It's good to be jealous,
05:05but it's not good to do what you can't do.
05:10I'm like this.
05:13I'm like this.
05:15I might lose my job,
05:19but some people say I'm good at taking risks.
05:26But I'm not.
05:28I'm just doing what is asked of me.
05:36I'm just doing what is asked of me.
05:38I'm just doing what is asked of me.
05:41I'm just doing what is asked of me.
05:44I see.
05:45That's a good way to think.
05:47The one who can't tune in is the most popular.
05:52That's true.
05:55The one who can't tune in is the most popular.
06:02The one who can't tune in is the most popular.
06:07In this program, your name was mentioned.
06:12Yes, it was.
06:13Is that part of the family?
06:16The same.
06:17It's right, but you're a regular guest,
06:21so when I went to the TV station,
06:23you looked like you were here for me.
06:28You look like a regular guest.
06:31He's just like a leader.
06:36That's not true.
06:37The viewers might misunderstand,
06:39but you came here as a part-time.
06:43I'm just a regular guest.
06:46You don't have to thank me.
06:49No, no, no.
06:51That's weird.
06:52I mean, Mukai-san came to both shows.
06:55No matter what Ota-san says.
06:57Yes, yes.
06:58Anyway, I've been writing this notebook for a long time.
07:04I published it on another show.
07:08About 5 years ago.
07:11I didn't think it was a good idea.
07:15It wasn't a foul play.
07:18Well, well.
07:19It was the other way around.
07:21I got an offer.
07:24But I didn't want to publish it.
07:30So I turned it down.
07:32And there was a meeting with Yamasato-san.
07:34I happened to meet Kubo-san at another recording.
07:38I told him to come out.
07:40And he said yes.
07:43A few weeks later, I got a message from him.
07:47He said he wouldn't come out.
07:49I told him that I was taking care of Kubo-san.
07:53He said he understood.
07:55But he said he'd do it at home.
07:57That's why.
07:59That's why.
08:02Of course, I did it with Iguchi-kun.
08:05But Kubo-san told me to do it.
08:08Yamasato-san gave me the name.
08:12Kubo-san asked me to do it.
08:15I'm grateful to them.
08:17You don't need to be grateful.
08:19You don't need to be grateful.
08:21You didn't know.
08:23You didn't know.
08:25Next, the true intention of the comedy.
08:31If you start talking about comedy from the outside, it will end.
08:35If you don't try to be on the inside, you won't be good at it.
08:40You said my name.
08:42You said my name.
08:44It's all about the story.
08:47It's all about the story.
08:50That's what comedians do.
08:53Everyone is different on the inside and outside.
08:57But everyone is good at variety shows.
09:00They don't refuse to try comedy.
09:04That's what comedians do on the inside.
09:08When I'm on the radio, I want to talk about comedy.
09:13I want to talk about comedy.
09:16I want to talk about comedy.
09:19Comedians are very sensitive.
09:24If you start talking about comedy from the outside,
09:29you won't be able to work with your favorite comedians.
09:38That's it for you, Tokuchi-san.
09:42Is there a way to solve this problem?
09:44Of course.
09:45I don't want to be like that.
09:48There are a lot of shows like that.
09:55So, I try to make everyone on the outside.
10:04Everyone is trying to be on the inside.
10:10Some people say that.
10:15But everyone is trying to be on the inside.
10:20But if you say you're on the inside, you're on the inside.
10:22It's easy for people to say that.
10:32For example, Mr. SAKUMA.
10:35Everyone will be surprised if you say that.
10:38I don't know if I should say the car I'm driving now.
10:41No, it's okay.
10:43Everyone knows what I think.
10:46It's okay if you say that.
10:48At first, you can accept it because it's fresh.
10:52But at some point, you don't want to be told that.
10:57That's right.
10:58That's right.
10:59That's right.
11:00That's right.
11:02If you praise me, I'll praise you.
11:04For example, if you're fighting in a show race,
11:07and you graduate, you can still talk about that show race for two or three years.
11:12But if you go beyond that, you'll be an outsider.
11:18That's right.
11:20That's right.
11:22It's attractive to be able to say that to anyone.
11:28That's right.
11:29That's why you have to be careful.
11:33I think it's a great role.
11:36It feels good to talk about it.
11:38Everyone will be surprised.
11:41It feels good.
11:42It feels good.
11:43But we've been doing this kind of show.
11:48This is also a show race.
11:50It's a show race.
11:51It's dangerous.
11:52We talk the same way, but we look different.
11:57I'm fighting with Iguchi and Yoshizumi.
12:02But I'm the only one who's done it.
12:05I'm serious.
12:06I'm serious.
12:08Iguchi is there.
12:11I'm done.
12:13I've done a lot of things like this.
12:16I wonder if I'm talking from the outside.
12:19Surprisingly, Iguchi is doing well.
12:22He's too much of a center.
12:24It's okay to say a little.
12:25He's a big guy.
12:26Mukai is a small guy.
12:30You have to be careful about this, too.
12:31That's right.
12:32Everyone is trying to have an objective view.
12:36That's why people around you notice it.
12:39I don't think people who are popular are happy.
12:43There are many people who keep doing what they can't do.
12:49They should appreciate what they can do.
12:53But they are too strict with themselves.
12:57They care about what other people think.
12:59They care about what they think.
13:02But in the end, that's what makes it interesting.
13:05It doesn't matter.
13:06If everyone starts to like it, it's like, what is this?
13:10No one will be happy forever.
13:13It's hell.
13:17The third is the true intention of the TV staff.
13:21There was a sticker on the back of the staff's cell phone.
13:29They were 70% excited about what they were going to do.
13:35I know what this is.
13:38You should be careful about this.
13:41You're good at giving out 70%.
13:43I'm good at it.
13:46For example, when I go to a concert, I ask the audience to take a picture of me.
13:52They say, I'm a fan of Mayurika, so I won't take a picture of you.
13:57I'm a fan of Yoshimoto, so I won't take a picture of you.
13:59I don't like Yoshimoto.
14:01I don't have a fan of Yoshimoto.
14:04Mukai was on TV a long time ago.
14:08He is a good friend of mine.
14:10I don't have a sense of the theater.
14:12That's why I don't like him.
14:14I don't like the smell of the theater.
14:16What kind of smell is it?
14:19There is a smell of Yoshimoto.
14:24I can't notice it being in Yoshimoto.
14:26I can't sense the smell of Yoshimoto.
14:30I'm scared of that smell.
14:33It's like a nacho.
14:35I don't like the sense of the theater.
14:39It's not fun.
14:43And he's carrying a lot of stuff in the theater.
14:45Yeah, he doesn't talk about the society.
14:47He's like, I'm definitely going back to comedy.
14:48I get it, I get it, I get it.
14:50But he's like, I'm definitely going back to comedy.
14:53I'm sure he thinks comedy is a one-man show.
14:55Well, of course.
14:56People who are involved in variety shows,
14:59and people who make videos like this,
15:02they like comedy,
15:04so they put stickers of celebrities they like on their phones.
15:08I get it, but...
15:09But that's not true.
15:11I wonder what it feels like to be able to post a video on social media.
15:19I'm serious.
15:21He's showing us a video of him.
15:24He's showing us a video of him.
15:26That's why we're like,
15:27That's why we're like,
15:28That's why we're like,
15:29That's not possible.
15:31That's not possible.
15:33I noticed it, but I can see it in his face.
15:36Do you have one of Mukai's videos?
15:38I do.
15:39I've never seen it.
15:40Don't lie to me.
15:41It was really popular in 2015.
15:46It was popular in 2015.
15:48I haven't seen it recently.
15:50He talks about money a lot.
15:53He asks me how much a gala is.
15:55I'm like,
15:56I'm like,
15:57I'm like,
15:58I'm like,
16:05It smells like Yoshimoto.
16:09I don't know what it smells like.
16:11It really smells like Yoshimoto.
16:14Yoshimoto's smell.
16:17Yoshimoto's smell.
16:19He's been following the rules.
16:22He's been following the rules.
16:26I know Yoshimoto.
16:29I know Yoshimoto.
16:30But he doesn't smell like that.
16:33I guess so.
16:35The people in the theater smell.
16:38It's like,
16:40It's like,
16:43He talks about money a lot.
16:45He asks me how much a gala is.
16:48But adults don't ask that.
16:50But adults don't ask that.
16:53But adults don't ask that.
16:57Every time,
16:59I get a feeling that I don't need Mukai.
17:03I get a feeling that I don't need Mukai.
17:08I get a feeling that I don't need Mukai.