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00:0025th Anniversary of BS Teletoes
00:30Yoshio Ichiryu
00:38Good morning. I'm Yoshio Ichiryu.
00:42There are many challenges that Japanese society has to overcome.
00:53One of them is business.
01:00The number of companies with more than 70 years of experience has increased to about 245.
01:08About half of them are facing the threat of bankruptcy due to a shortage of successors.
01:18If we lose 1.27 billion yen, we will lose 6.5 million employees and lose about 2.2 trillion yen in GDP.
01:46Today, I'm going to talk about the challenges of business.
01:52I'm going to talk about the thoughts and feelings of a company that runs a franchise restaurant,
02:01and a company that has a 22-year-old part-time job.
02:07I'm going to give you a hint on how to solve the challenges of business.
02:15Let's take a look.
02:18Nishimaki Morosawa
02:26Thank you for your time today, Mr. Morosawa.
02:32As a hint on how to solve the challenges of business,
02:37we will learn from Nishimaki Morosawa, a franchise company that runs a restaurant.
02:48Mr. Nishimaki, I'm sorry to say this, but I think it's a little reckless to ask you to take care of the president after his part-time job.
03:04I'm often asked that.
03:06How did you think of it?
03:09When did you decide to look for this opportunity?
03:15When I was in college, I was a really bad person.
03:21I couldn't manage my money or myself.
03:25When I was 20, I suddenly thought, I can't go on like this.
03:33What should I do with my life from now on?
03:37I thought I didn't want to work for the rest of my life.
03:41Because I was a bad person.
03:42When I thought about how long I would work, I decided to retire at the age of 50.
03:48I decided how much I needed to retire at the age of 50.
03:53Then it was 300 million yen.
03:55I was looking for a company with a pension of 300 million yen at the age of 50.
04:03There is no such company.
04:05Then I have no choice but to make it myself.
04:07I see.
04:09Even after I got a job, I decided to make my own company.
04:18When I was 20, I decided to retire at the age of 50.
04:22I see.
04:24Next.
04:26I think it's normal for successors to grow up.
04:30Yes, yes.
04:32With two or three successors, I gradually gained experience in managing a company.
04:36Yes, yes.
04:38When I look at it from my point of view, it's a big leap.
04:44Where did this decision come from?
04:47It's not that big of a deal.
04:49When I thought it was about time, I wanted someone to do it rather than who I wanted to give it to.
04:57I wrote down what kind of person it was.
05:00The first thing that came out was to be honest.
05:03Yes.
05:05Don't be depressed.
05:07It's important not to be depressed.
05:09I don't think a company will go well if the president is too depressed.
05:16Also, I like my company.
05:19Also, he sympathizes with my way of thinking as a president.
05:25That's what I wrote down.
05:27It's a keyword.
05:29Yes, yes.
05:31It's a person who fulfills this.
05:33Yes.
05:35There was no age, career, qualification.
05:37There was no woman or man.
05:39I thought there was someone like this in my company.
05:43Then this person came down.
05:46It was Mr. Morosawa.
05:48Mr. Morosawa.
05:50He said, why don't you be the president?
05:52A little light.
05:54First, a jab.
05:55Did you take it lightly?
05:57I said, I'll do it.
05:59I said, yes.
06:01How did you feel at that time?
06:03At first, I thought he was joking.
06:06But what kind of excitement did you feel?
06:09But I didn't feel anxious at all.
06:12It was really exciting and fun.
06:15It was interesting.
06:17It was exciting and effective.
06:20It was quick.
06:22Did you feel like you were independent?
06:23No, not at all.
06:25You were honest.
06:27I was honest.
06:29He had been working for us since he was a freshman in high school.
06:34At that time, I had been working with him for five years.
06:37I was working with a part-time worker and the president.
06:41I knew his personality.
06:44You said it was exciting.
06:46Where did you see the good points of this company?
06:49I've been taking care of this company since I was a freshman in high school.
06:51I've been meeting the president all the time.
06:56I've never been angry with him about my job.
07:00I've never been angry when I made a mistake.
07:03He is the president who cares about protecting time and saying hello.
07:08It was a company that cared about that.
07:10My parents didn't tell me to study.
07:14I was raised to take care of time and say hello.
07:17The fact that my parents told me that this is important to me
07:23and the fact that President Nishimaki and the company are taking care of me at the time are the same.
07:29There was something I could never believe.
07:32In a sense, Mr. Nishimaki, this is the foundation of becoming a leader.
07:37Yes, that's right.
07:39You follow the rules and build them up.
07:41You have trust and you can do it.
07:43Yes.
07:45But I think there are a lot of old-fashioned people in the company.
07:52Yes, yes.
07:54President, didn't you say,
07:57why don't you let me do that?
08:00No, I didn't.
08:02Why not?
08:04It's interesting to say whether it's interesting or not.
08:07The atmosphere in the company is interesting.
08:10However, after I told her that I would make her the president,
08:16the atmosphere in the company and the sense of responsibility for each person increased.
08:21Yes.
08:23For example, from the outside,
08:27if you call someone who has a lot of experience in management.
08:32I think that's normal.
08:34I think that would make our company very noisy.
08:40Because I don't know if she wants to follow someone else.
08:46I'm worried that her way of doing things might change or her values might change.
08:51She doesn't have any of that.
08:53She's a sky-scraper.
08:55I see.
08:57She doesn't have the strength to do her job yet,
09:00so she feels like she has to do something.
09:02Yes, that's right.
09:04This is big.
09:05She agreed to it,
09:07and for the two years until it was announced,
09:11she thought about what she could do for a company where she could be the president.
09:18I see.
09:20She didn't need to do it for me.
09:22She couldn't do it.
09:24She's been doing it for a long time.
09:26Instead of doing it for me,
09:28she wanted to make me a sky-scraper who could be the president of Morosa.
09:31I see.
09:33So, how many points would you give her?
09:366 points.
09:38How many points?
09:40100 points.
09:42What?
09:44You made a mistake.
09:46The machine will do it for you.
09:48I see.
09:50But it's still difficult for her to get a financial report.
09:56It's difficult.
09:58She just needs someone who can read it.
09:59She needs a staff like that.
10:02I see.
10:04This is interesting.
10:06So, both of you are working together as a team.
10:10Yes, we're a team.
10:12It's been a year.
10:14I'm sure you're not doing it alone.
10:17You have the president next to you.
10:19You're talking to each other.
10:21How do you feel after a year?
10:23I finally understand what I don't understand.
10:26What I can't do.
10:27When I got fired, I didn't know anything.
10:30At that time.
10:32I didn't know what I was bad at or what I couldn't do.
10:34I didn't know what kind of president I was going to be.
10:36I didn't know what they wanted from me.
10:38It hasn't been a year yet, but I know what I don't know.
10:45That's an important step.
10:47What was the first thing you didn't know?
10:51Until now, I was looking at the president as a part-time job.
10:54I didn't know what kind of work the president was doing behind the scenes.
10:57I didn't know how to talk to the employees, how to follow them,
11:01how to help them sometimes.
11:03I didn't know what they were doing.
11:07That was a time when I could see it in detail.
11:10I didn't know the numbers.
11:14I only knew one word.
11:17I didn't know how to read.
11:20I see.
11:21Another thing.
11:23You have a vision of what you want to be in 10 years.
11:31I don't think of it as a part-time job.
11:34I don't think of it as a president.
11:36What do you think about that?
11:38I've always liked the skyscraper when I joined as a part-time job.
11:45I don't have any big ideas or ideas.
11:49I want to protect the historical skyscraper that President Nishimaki continued to build.
11:59I see.
12:01I love the workplace.
12:03I want to go to the workplace and tell the employees what I value.
12:09I want to increase the number of people who can work with the same feeling.
12:19The skyscraper is a franchise company of a restaurant where 22-year-old part-time workers joined as a president last year.
12:29The skyscraper is a franchise company of a restaurant where 22-year-old part-time workers joined as a president last year.
12:32The skyscraper is a franchise company of a restaurant where 22-year-old part-time workers joined as a president last year.
12:43First-class people are looking for a way to solve the problems of small and medium-sized companies in Japan.
12:53I'd like to change the topic to Mr. Nishimaki.
12:58The number of bankruptcies is the highest in the past.
13:05The average age of the president is about 64 years old.
13:09I see.
13:11There are many companies over the age of 70, but about half of them are in a difficult situation.
13:21They can't find a successor.
13:25What do you think, Mr. Nishimaki?
13:28Everyone has a different opinion.
13:32For example, some people want to work for a lifetime because it is the privilege of the president.
13:44Some people want to retire soon, but they can't find a successor.
13:51I was asked if there were any fixed ideas or regulations.
14:06I was asked where I set my goal when I started my company.
14:12In my case, I set my goal of 300 million yen at the age of 50.
14:17I've done a lot of things for that goal.
14:19If I was 50 years old and had 50 million yen, the number of stores would have been different.
14:26So I was asked when I set my goal and when I started preparing for it.
14:36I don't want to mislead you, but I think it's a little late to look for a successor when you're in your 70s.
14:46I agree.
14:47If you give a baton to someone in their 40s, there is a gap.
14:59So I think it's a little early.
15:03In my case, I'm 55 years old and 23 years old.
15:09There is a difference in age, but I know that it will be difficult for young people to be so strict.
15:21Above all, there is still room for improvement.
15:24I'm fine.
15:27I don't want to replace myself.
15:32But I think many people want to replace themselves.
15:37I don't want to replace myself.
15:39I don't want to replace Superman.
15:42I don't want to replace Superman who has been in the business world for 40 or 50 years.
15:48I don't want to replace myself.
15:50Not replacing yourself, but understanding your way of thinking, spirit, DNA, and policy.
15:59In a word, it's a message.
16:02If there are other elements that you understand, let's put this person here.
16:08After that, you can steal from me, but do it with your own furniture.
16:13I think it's better to do it according to the times.
16:16I don't think it's that difficult.
16:19It's simple.
16:22Here, the first-class asks about the human resources development, which is also largely related to the challenges of business.
16:31It's a big story.
16:33In Japan, there is a shortage of people, and the human resources of people are falling from the world level.
16:42In a word, it's a comfortable, warm society.
16:47Don't compete too much.
16:49Foreign countries are doing a lot.
16:52In that sense, I think companies are the same to create the future, but I think human resources investment is very important.
17:00What do you think of that kind of thing in your company?
17:06I don't think we can do human resources development.
17:11When I was young, I ran because I had to do human resources development.
17:16Now, it's not human resources development, it's support.
17:21So, when new people enter each area for three hours, I have a study session.
17:28Oh, a study session.
17:30I talk alone for three hours.
17:31One of the questions I ask people to answer is the same as me.
17:37How old do you want to live?
17:40It's a 100-year period.
17:43How old do you want to work?
17:45This is also different.
17:47Some people write 60, some write 80.
17:50How much do you need to live after retirement every month?
17:53When you think about it, how much do you need when you leave the company?
18:02For many people, it's close to 100,000,000 or 200,000,000 yen.
18:07For a few people, it's about 20,000,000 yen.
18:10I ask people who write 200,000,000 or 100,000,000 yen how to save money.
18:18When people write it, they realize how much they need.
18:24Then, they decide their goal and how to get there.
18:31So, it's not about what you want to do, but how you want to live.
18:35What kind of life do you want to live?
18:37So, it's not about a specific occupation.
18:40It's about what kind of person you want to be.
18:42It's about how you want to live and how you want to produce your life.
18:47Finally, the numbers come in.
18:49I see.
18:51When the numbers come in, they come up with specific ideas.
18:55When they come up with specific ideas, all they can do is back down.
19:01So, they say,
19:03You wrote that you need 200,000,000 yen, right?
19:06But you said it's okay to work for a low-paid company.
19:10No, you can't.
19:12You have to work for a company of that class.
19:15Are you able to keep up with the grades?
19:17No, you can't.
19:19Then, go to the student age.
19:21You can't keep up with the grades now.
19:23So, you have to be more humane.
19:25You have to be at the top level of affection, love, and greeting.
19:30Then, they can work for a good company.
19:34For example, when they start a business,
19:37even if they don't know how to cook,
19:39they can tell their employees that they absolutely need this.
19:45Or they can keep telling their employees until they can do it.
19:49I think that's what I call support.
19:51I see.
19:53So, for them,
19:55they can't quit a company that supports their life.
19:58So, it's not that they don't have enough talent.
20:01Our company doesn't have a lot of talent either.
20:04But if they don't quit a company that supports their life,
20:08it means that if they join our company, their life will improve.
20:12Our company doesn't have enough talent.
20:15Many people leave our company,
20:17but not many people join our company.
20:19So, we need to think about how to support our employees.
20:26I see.
20:28Mr. Nishimaki,
20:31I think this is a good way to put it.
20:32I think this is a good way to put it.
20:34This is just like a psychological theory.
20:39But what exactly do you do?
20:41This is the last number.
20:43As you said.
20:45This has a reality.
20:47This is related to the movement of reality.
20:50I see.
20:52I think people who can imagine numbers have a strong grip on reality.
20:59Yes.
21:00I'm very impressed by this.
21:03I know what to do, but I don't know how to do it.
21:11This is your reason.
21:13If you have a goal like this, you can do it.
21:17This is very important to me.
21:20I want everyone to be convinced and make it their own.
21:24You absolutely need money.
21:26It's a capitalist society.
21:27That's right.
21:29If you don't think about money and make your own life plan,
21:35it's a waste to end up somewhere.
21:40I've talked to a lot of people about this.
21:43Have you changed?
21:45Have I changed?
21:47I was called here because I was wondering what I would study.
21:50I came here because I thought I would study how to use a handy or a cash register.
21:58I don't talk about that at all.
22:00I only talk about human nature as a person.
22:03I only talk about greetings, love, etc. for three hours.
22:07So I got used to it.
22:09I didn't know how to get used to it.
22:12I nodded and took notes.
22:14After that, I got a job.
22:17You got a job.
22:19Where did you get a job?
22:21Even if I get a job here, I only use it here.
22:25When I graduated from high school, I didn't use the job I got here.
22:30When I was told that I wanted to learn greetings, love, etc. here and graduate,
22:36I thought it was cool.
22:38I thought I was going to study the job I got here.
22:43I remember that very well.
22:45You were told about human nature.
22:48It was the first time I heard such a story in my life.
22:53I thought I was a cool adult and I wanted to be such a person.
22:57At that time, I was told to do this kind of work on the spot.
23:02I could only do that one thing.
23:04But I remembered the work.
23:06But what I was taught was as a person.
23:09When I do it as a person, I try to notice something.
23:11I start to look around.
23:13I start to look for customers who are in trouble.
23:16The movement of the site changed completely after the study session.
23:20I see.
23:22The view changes when you look at it.
23:25What do you think is the most important part of being a CEO?
23:29When I listen to Mr. Nishimaki's story,
23:32I think it's human happiness.
23:35That's the point.
23:37As a CEO, I think it's important to do what you have to do.
23:42But at this point, I'm wondering how I can become a company like this.
23:50I joined the company when I was a high school student.
23:54I was told that I was an important person.
23:57If I had graduated from here,
24:00the most youthful time in my life was when I was in high school.
24:03I was told that the most important thing in my life was this time.
24:08I was told that I was useful all the time.
24:11I want to be in a company like that forever.
24:14I want to be the most important thing in my life
24:18that people who have left here or who have graduated
24:22will never forget.
24:24Everyone will recognize their own way of life.
24:27Everyone will recognize their own vision.
24:29Good girl.
24:31First of all, you have to work hard to reach your goal.
24:38I learned a lot today. Thank you.
24:40Thank you very much.
24:48Everyone, there are so many issues in business.
24:54I have an example to talk to them.
24:59What I have learned is that
25:03business owners will reach their peak one day.
25:07Before that peak,
25:11you need to find employees who have the same life plan as you.
25:16You need to find people who have the same belief and trust as you.
25:22And you need to support them.
25:23If you don't do these things,
25:27you won't be able to succeed in your business.
25:30I think this is a good example.
25:35Our next guest is the architect Mr. Tadao Ando.
25:39What is his message to the young people
25:43who are 83 years old this year
25:46in order to make Japan a respected country again?