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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in two days.
00:17Who will be our guest today?
00:19Today's guest is a famous writer in Okayama Prefecture.
00:26I feel like I'm connected to the road.
00:28This is amazing.
00:30It was definitely a car.
00:32It's not a garage.
00:34There is a feeling of width.
00:36It's a good garage.
00:40It's like a plastic model other than a book.
00:43It's a CD.
00:45It's a nostalgic CD.
00:47It's good.
00:48It's a single CD.
00:498 cm CD.
00:50It's a 8 cm CD.
00:52It's a CD that doesn't break.
00:54I was able to put up with it without breaking it.
00:56It's nostalgic.
00:58Did you break it?
00:59Did you break it?
01:00It was piled up as it was.
01:01What are you doing?
01:03Don't make a good past.
01:05It's not a good past.
01:06I don't usually break it.
01:07No, you broke it.
01:09Did you break it?
01:10Yes, yes, yes.
01:11If you break it, you broke it.
01:13What is that?
01:14It's broken.
01:15It's broken.
01:17I don't like that.
01:18I wanted to do that as a child.
01:21I heard there's something you're into right now.
01:25It's a riddle.
01:28A riddle?
01:29I heard you like riddles.
01:32I made a good riddle.
01:34I really want you to listen to it.
01:39It's a boring book.
01:41You're into it, aren't you?
01:43Why do you want us to listen to it?
01:45Send a letter to Nezuchi.
01:48Write it with a full book.
01:50Write it with a full book.
01:52Solve it with salt.
01:54Solve it with salt.
01:56I'll buy both of your hearts.
02:03That's good.
02:05I don't have any comments from here.
02:09That's the reaction.
02:11It's good, right?
02:13It's good, right?
02:15Send it to me anytime.
02:17I won't make a corner.
02:21This week's topic is this.
02:24What is this?
02:26I was on the tuna fishing boat to pay off my debt.
02:30That's good.
02:31I like the obi.
02:32My debt is 50 million yen.
02:34Can I pay it off with tuna?
02:36That's good.
02:38I was on the tuna fishing boat to pay off my parents' debt.
02:42It's a letter from a person who wrote the book.
02:45It's a letter from a person who wrote the book.
02:47So, we are not urban legends, but...
02:52We're like people who can pay off their debts.
02:56It's not a drama.
02:59It's like urban legends.
03:01It's like a job at a supermarket.
03:06It's a little urban legend.
03:09What is it?
03:10My name is Sei, and I'm a former member of the Tuna Fishing Club.
03:13Sei-san?
03:14Yes.
03:15Sei-san?
03:16So you're Sei-san from Higuchi Seiichi?
03:18Yes, that's right.
03:19You didn't come here to ride on the Tuna Fishing Club, did you?
03:21I didn't come here to ride on it.
03:22You came here to ride on it.
03:23You're a debt collector.
03:25What do you do for a living?
03:27Right now?
03:28Yes.
03:29Right now, I'm doing business as a freelancer.
03:31Business as a freelancer?
03:33I'm doing business as a freelancer, and I make calls to meet with clients.
03:45I won't ask you any more questions.
03:48No, no, no.
03:49I don't know anything.
03:50You don't have any more questions, do you?
03:51No, no, no.
03:52You don't have any more questions, do you?
03:53I don't know anything.
03:54I'm doing a proper job.
03:55You're doing a proper job.
03:56I see.
03:57Why did you decide to write this book?
04:00I was talking about how I was on the Tuna Fishing Club on YouTube.
04:07I see.
04:08Then, I got a DM from the producer of the show, Ura Shakai Journey, Shinya Kusaka.
04:16He asked me to appear on his show.
04:18I see.
04:19So I decided to appear on the show.
04:22I see.
04:23I thought it would end there, but he asked me to write a book.
04:26It became a topic.
04:27Yes.
04:28So I wrote a book.
04:30I see.
04:31How long ago did you become a member of the club?
04:34I became a member of the club when I was 17.
04:37What about high school?
04:38I was in the middle of high school.
04:40For that reason?
04:41For that reason, I did a lot of bad things.
04:46I see.
04:49I had a lot of bad seniors.
04:50Do you feel like you're a newbie now?
04:52No, I don't.
04:53I was in a bad place.
04:55I see.
04:56When I was young, my father told me to quit because I did a lot of bad things.
05:02He told me to work.
05:04So I told him that I would work.
05:06I was wondering if I had a job.
05:08Then, he told me to ride on a tuna boat.
05:11Did your father tell you to do that?
05:12My father told me to do that.
05:13Your father?
05:14My father sold me.
05:15He sold you?
05:16So you were born in Minato-machi?
05:20Yes, I was born in Minato-machi.
05:21But it's not the port of a tuna boat.
05:24I see.
05:25But I had a relative who was riding on a tuna boat.
05:29Was he also a bad person?
05:33No, he was riding on a tuna boat all the time.
05:36I see.
05:37There was an old man who was the chief of the country.
05:39So my father told me to ride on a tuna boat with him.
05:43I thought he was just a fisherman.
05:46He was fishing.
05:49I thought he was just a fisherman.
05:51But I was wrong.
05:54I couldn't come back.
05:55How long couldn't you come back?
05:57I couldn't come back for a month.
05:59Was that your first time?
06:00Yes, it was my first time.
06:02Were there any people around you who were the same age as you?
06:05No, there weren't.
06:07I think it was around 30 to 60 years old.
06:11Oh, it was around 60 years old.
06:12Were there people with debt riding on the boat?
06:17I don't know about that.
06:19Didn't they pull you?
06:20No, they didn't.
06:21Oh, that's scary.
06:23Oh, I see.
06:24I felt like I shouldn't ask.
06:28I didn't know anything.
06:29Were they all a bit clumsy?
06:31There were some people like that.
06:33But there were also people who were riding on a tuna boat all the time.
06:39The chief of the country was riding on a tuna boat all the time.
06:44Did you all eat together during the 4th and 6th day?
06:48That's right.
06:49How long did it take to complete the work?
06:53A month's worth of work was completed in 2 to 3 days.
07:00It was right by the sea.
07:03So you were riding on the boat for 2 to 3 days.
07:08Yes, I was.
07:10But it was only for 2 to 3 days.
07:12That's how it is.
07:13That's how you feel.
07:14That's how people feel.
07:162 to 3 days went by so fast.
07:18What did you do during those 2 to 3 days?
07:19I didn't do anything during those 2 to 3 days.
07:21You just slept?
07:22I just slept.
07:23I was a newbie so I didn't have a radio or anything.
07:28I didn't bring anything.
07:29People who are used to it bring things.
07:30People who are used to it bring videos, radios, and books.
07:38I just slept and watched movies.
07:41So you arrived at that place.
07:43From there, it was pretty much hell.
07:46That's right.
07:47What did you do?
07:48At first, I couldn't do anything.
07:52So I just watched and helped out.
07:56I wasn't told what to do.
07:58You weren't told?
07:59I wasn't told.
08:00But the waves came.
08:02That's scary.
08:03They brought a huge shark.
08:05I didn't know what to do.
08:07I couldn't stand up straight.
08:08I got seasick.
08:10I got scolded.
08:12I was like, you're in my way.
08:14What is this?
08:16So this is how it works.
08:18Yes.
08:19Is this the board?
08:21This is the board.
08:22The board?
08:23Yes.
08:24What does it do?
08:25The board is like a manager.
08:29You take care of everything?
08:31Yes, I'm like a manager.
08:33I take care of everything.
08:35So you work under the board?
08:37That's right.
08:38So you're a junior.
08:39That's right.
08:41By the way, your salary is the highest.
08:47That's right.
08:48What happens next?
08:50If there's one person per person,
08:54it's 1.7 million yen.
08:58So if you make 10,000 yen a day,
09:03you make 17,000 yen a day.
09:06That's right.
09:08Are there a lot of mischievous people?
09:13It's not that there are a lot of people,
09:15but sometimes there are people who used to be yakuza.
09:18There are people like that.
09:20In our image,
09:22the debt collectors say,
09:23you can ride the tuna boat.
09:26Is there a connection between the debt collectors
09:29and the tuna boat?
09:32I think there is.
09:34I see.
09:35About 40 years ago,
09:37people used to go to the tuna boat and borrow money.
09:40They used to go to the tuna boat and borrow money.
09:43And the yakuza would pay the debt.
09:46So they would say,
09:47I'll ride the tuna boat and pay you back.
09:50And the yakuza would suck up all the money.
09:54The yakuza knew all of that.
09:58I see.
09:59So it's been like that for a long time.
10:02It's just that they're paying back the money.
10:05It's been like that for a long time.
10:07It's been like that for 40 years.
10:10It's like a tuna group.
10:12It's like an actor.
10:14How long does it take?
10:16I went for a year.
10:18A year?
10:20You can't come back for a year,
10:23but don't you stay on the sea for a long time?
10:25I stay on the sea for a long time.
10:27What about the port?
10:28I go to the port twice.
10:30I go to Hawaii.
10:33Is there a reward?
10:35I need to get my oil.
10:37I need to get my oil.
10:39I go to Hawaii.
10:40I only go twice.
10:41You can't go in until you get your oil?
10:43I can't.
10:45All the food comes by boat from Peru.
10:49The cargo comes from Peru.
10:51On the sea?
10:52It's like a piece of land.
10:55All the goods come by boat.
10:57From Peru,
10:59you can get our drinks,
11:01and small things like vegetables.
11:07Do you have a little break in Hawaii?
11:10One night in Hawaii.
11:12One night?
11:13In Hawaii?
11:14What a waste.
11:15When I go to Hawaii,
11:17there's a local organization.
11:19Aishinobu comes.
11:21I see.
11:23They're Taiwanese.
11:26They take me to their base.
11:28They give me some allowance.
11:31I think it was $300.
11:33You can play with it?
11:34Yes.
11:35Is that a bonus?
11:37No, I get deducted.
11:38What?
11:39No, no, no.
11:40You get paid later?
11:41No, no, no.
11:42But,
11:43this organization and the tuna fishing boat
11:45are in a partnership, right?
11:47That's right.
11:48Wow!
11:49I see.
11:50So I don't get in the way,
11:52and when I get paid,
11:54I get a good one.
11:57Like a direct payment.
11:59I don't have to ask,
12:01but how was it, Mr. Sei?
12:02I was 17, so...
12:04I see.
12:05That's hard.
12:06But,
12:07I got paid by an old lady.
12:09At first.
12:10She said,
12:11you're going to my house with me.
12:13Oh, really?
12:14I said, why not?
12:16She said,
12:17I'll pay you.
12:18That's a good deal.
12:19So I got in the car,
12:21and she took me there.
12:22It was in the city of Hawaii.
12:24Yes, yes.
12:25I was in the car.
12:26I thought I was going to get killed by the mafia.
12:29That's scary.
12:30It was really scary.
12:31That's true.
12:32I asked her to return me to the boat,
12:34but she said,
12:35are you really going to return me to the boat?
12:37She said a lot of things.
12:38That's scary.
12:39What did you do?
12:40Did you pray?
12:41I couldn't.
12:42You couldn't?
12:43You couldn't?
12:44She took me sightseeing.
12:45To an old lady?
12:47She was like a relative.
12:48She took you sightseeing?
12:49She took me sightseeing.
12:50She took me sightseeing.
12:51Oh, I see.
12:52Like Ara Moana Shopping Center.
12:53Yes, yes.
12:54Or Yakiniku restaurant.
12:55Yes, yes.
12:56She took me to a lot of places,
12:58and it was really good.
13:04Did you actually make a lot of money?
13:07In the past, I made a lot of money.
13:10But when I was in the car,
13:12I didn't make that much money.
13:14I made 880,000 yen in the first month of my first month of fame.
13:21What?
13:22In a month?
13:23Yes.
13:24Isn't that cheap?
13:25What?
13:26I made 13.7 million yen in Mizuwa.
13:29You don't drink alcohol like this.
13:32In your first month of fame.
13:33Yes.
13:34In your first month of fame.
13:35I think I had about 220,000 yen in my first month of fame.
13:39And then I got a deposit.
13:41I spent 100,000 yen on cigarettes, food, clothes, and leaves.
13:46I got a deposit for that.
13:47I also got a deposit for the factory.
13:50And I couldn't get a part-time job.
13:54I couldn't get a part-time job.
13:56I got a 20% deposit.
13:57Oh, 0.8%?
13:58Yes, 0.8%.
13:59Wow.
14:00That's amazing.
14:01That's a lot of money, isn't it?
14:02This is not a yakuza.
14:04That's right.
14:05That's right.
14:06That's right.
14:07I don't know when I'm doing this by hand.
14:12That's a long time ago.
14:13I don't know when I'm doing this by hand.
14:16This is 740,000 yen.
14:18This is 740,000 yen in 10 months.
14:20740,000 yen in 10 months?
14:21Isn't it too cheap?
14:23I get a deposit every month.
14:25150,000 yen each.
14:26I see.
14:27So, it's about 1.8 million yen.
14:31Is this a plus?
14:32That's right.
14:33Oh, but it's about 2.5 million yen.
14:37It's a little more profitable.
14:39That's right.
14:40It's better than a normal deposit.
14:41This is 200,000 yen for the deposit,
14:43and it's about 500,000 yen including the cost of medical insurance,
14:49medical expenses, and so on.
14:52I see.
14:53I get a deposit every month.
14:56Mizuaki-kun, is it 200,000,000 yen?
14:58It's about 9,000,000 yen.
14:59Wow.
15:00That's amazing.
15:01Does this mean that the salary here will change depending on the Mizuaki-kun?
15:04That's right.
15:05Wow.
15:06So, it's like dividing the mountain, right?
15:10That's right.
15:11You're a pirate.
15:15The shark fin price will be about 300,000 yen.
15:18Shark fin price?
15:19If you buy a shark fin, you can make a shark fin soup.
15:22If you sell that fin, you can get all the fins.
15:26If you sell that, you can get another 300,000 yen.
15:29Wow.
15:30That's amazing.
15:31But it's not dangerous, right?
15:33No, it's not.
15:34It's not.
15:35I see.
15:36It used to be about 700,000,000 yen.
15:39But now it's over 200,000,000 yen.
15:42I see.
15:43So, when people said that shark fin would make a lot of money,
15:46it was about 700,000,000 yen.
15:48I see.
15:49About 30 years ago, it was about 200,000,000 yen.
15:52I see.
15:53300,000,000 yen.
15:55If you buy a shark fin at 300,000,000 yen,
15:57you can get a shark fin soup.
15:59I see.
16:00Even if it's expensive,
16:01it's useless.
16:03You're calculating.
16:04You can buy a shark fin soup with that calculation.
16:06So, the production is 740,000,000 yen.
16:09The total cost is 3,630,000,000 yen.
16:11Yes.
16:12It may be cheaper than now.
16:14It may be cheaper.
16:16I don't think so.
16:18I felt like I could pay off my debt if I went to tuna fishing.
16:23You can work even if you don't want to.
16:25That's right.
16:26I see.
16:27What are the other advantages?
16:29The advantage is that I don't have to spend money.
16:32You don't have to spend money.
16:34I don't have to spend money.
16:36Is that all?
16:37That's all.
16:42Don't you want to go again?
16:44I don't want to go.
16:45I see.
16:46I haven't been in my dream recently,
16:48but I've been in my dream for decades.
16:50I see.
16:51It must be hard.
16:52I only dream about getting off the ship.
16:55I see.
16:56I can't escape from it.
16:57Have you ever dreamed about Hawaii?
16:59No, I haven't.
17:00It's a fun memory.
17:01I see.
17:02Some people get sick on the ship, right?
17:05Some people do,
17:07but there aren't many viruses on the sea, right?
17:11There aren't many people who get sick.
17:13What?
17:14That's right.
17:15I see.
17:16There aren't any strange bacteria.
17:18There aren't any colds.
17:20No.
17:21There are some people who get sick,
17:23but they often get injured.
17:25They get stung.
17:26I see.
17:27No one was swallowed up by the waves and taken away?
17:30I've never experienced it on a ship,
17:32but I've heard that seven people were washed away in Cape Town.
17:35I've heard that, too.
17:36They never came back.
17:37Yes.
17:38In the end, did you be able to repay your parents' debt of 50 million yen?
17:42I couldn't repay it at all.
17:43That's right.
17:44It's impossible.
17:45Yes.
17:46I asked my parents.
17:47I didn't know much about money.
17:49I was 17 years old.
17:50I left everything to my mother.
17:52I asked her,
17:53what happened to my debt of 100 million yen?
17:55She said,
17:56it was my living expenses.
17:57Your allowance?
17:58That's right.
17:59So you gave her 1.5 million yen in 10 months,
18:02but it was all your living expenses.
18:04That's right.
18:05I asked her,
18:06didn't you repay it?
18:07She said,
18:08I couldn't repay it.
18:09That's amazing.
18:10You used to be a bad person,
18:11but you were able to forgive it, right?
18:13That's...
18:14Your parents didn't mind?
18:15My parents were happy that I was able to go to high school.
18:18That's amazing.
18:19They were happy.
18:21But you did it for 3 years.
18:24That's right.
18:25I couldn't do it for 3 years.
18:27By the way,
18:28when did you start G-Koi?
18:30What?
18:31G-Koi?
18:32When did you start G-Koi?
18:33G-Koi...
18:34It's been 10 months.
18:36There was an old man,
18:38who was like a video collector.
18:40There were a lot of videos at that time.
18:43Did you bring them to Sendai?
18:44Yes.
18:45All of them were unedited blond videos.
18:49I brought them to Sendai.
18:51I was surprised that I was the second.
18:53What do you mean by second?
18:55Is it a nickname?
18:56It's a nickname.
18:57It's like a codename.
18:58What?
18:59It's a double-decker train.
19:00Oh, I see.
19:01It's a double-decker train.
19:02It's a suspicious old man.
19:04I couldn't work.
19:06But I brought them to Sendai.
19:09You brought them to Sendai.
19:10I brought them to Sendai.
19:11I brought them to Sendai.
19:12When I came to Sendai,
19:14I was told that it was a good place.
19:16So I said,
19:17I'd like to rent it.
19:18Did you rent it for free?
19:20Yes, I did.
19:21Did you pay for the rental fee?
19:22No, I didn't.
19:23I didn't pay for the rental fee.
19:24You didn't pay for the rental fee.
19:25Did you have a TV?
19:26Did you have a video?
19:27There was a small TV like that.
19:30I could put it in my bed at that time.
19:32I put it next to the video,
19:34and I watched it while sleeping with headphones on.
19:36Did you bring a deck?
19:38Yes, I brought a deck.
19:41It's bigger than a TV.
19:43It's bigger than a TV.
19:44What does a TV look like?
19:45A TV looks like this.
19:49All of them are like this.
19:50It can't be helped.
19:52It doesn't fit.
19:53I can't see it even if I don't fix it.
19:55It's automatic correction.
20:01Lastly, what do you want to say in this book?
20:05I think there are people who are having a hard time at work.
20:11It's hard.
20:13It's hard to do this kind of work.
20:15But if you look at this book,
20:18I think it would be nice if you could think that there is such a hard job.
20:23Young people in Reiwa are very positive.
20:26There aren't many people who chase their dreams.
20:29They say they're hungry for power and sex right away.
20:33But I think it's important to pay for the gym.
20:36It's too much to pay for the gym.
20:38It's like you're paying for your body power.
20:41I'm paying for my power.
20:42Sometimes.
20:43Sometimes.
20:44I think it will lead me to a good direction.
20:47That's what I think.
20:49So you want to say that you're glad you got on the train, right?
20:52That's right.
20:53Because I had that experience.
20:58This is the only book in the second collection.
21:02It's irrefutable.
21:04This is how you find out what's inside.
21:10Read this and get on the tuna fishing boat.
21:12After reading it, you can buy it on a ship in Peru.
21:16Can you buy it for me?
21:18I'll give you water.
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