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00:00Now, tonight, we have a variety of comedians who have appeared in Taiga Drum.
00:05Thank you for coming.
00:06Thank you for having me.
00:07I've heard that you've been doing yoga for a long time.
00:10Yes.
00:11How is your diet like?
00:13It's amazing. I eat only one meal a day.
00:15That's true.
00:16I don't think this program is suitable for you today.
00:18That's true.
00:19I haven't eaten out.
00:20Oh, welcome.
00:21Welcome.
00:22Hello.
00:23Nice to meet you.
00:24Nice to meet you.
00:25Nice to meet you.
00:26Please come inside.
00:27May I?
00:28Yes.
00:29I feel like I'm in a bar.
00:31I feel like I'm a guest who is being invited.
00:33I have a question.
00:35You've been doing yoga, so you haven't eaten out at all.
00:38Yes.
00:39Sometimes I have lunch.
00:40I don't eat out much.
00:42What?
00:43That's not good.
00:44Hey, today...
00:46I'm wondering why I was invited.
00:52Tonight's guest is Tsurutaro Kataoka, an actor and painter.
00:56Tsurutaro Kataoka, an actor and painter.
00:58He has appeared in many films such as Taiga Drama and Suspense.
01:02He is a veteran actor.
01:04He told us a story when he was a celebrity.
01:08Tamori and I went to a Ginza club for a drink once a month.
01:12I see.
01:13Takeshi and I were in the same group.
01:17He asked me if I liked O-Tei.
01:19I said yes.
01:20Oh, no.
01:23He will tell us a story about his life.
01:29Let's get started.
01:31He decided to have a beard since he was 60 years old.
01:34This is the best time of his life.
01:36I'm playing with my hair now.
01:38I'm playing with my hair now.
01:40I'm going to have a beard like Tsurutaro-san when I was 60 years old.
01:43That's good.
01:44I started to have a beard when I was 60 or 70 years old.
01:48You started to have a beard.
01:49I didn't have a beard when I was black.
01:52You didn't have a beard.
01:53What are you going to do with your beard?
01:56I'm going to have a beard when I'm 100 years old.
02:20This program is brought to you by Suntory.
02:29Why did Tsurutaro-san, who was playing at night, suddenly change?
02:33I didn't think I would do yoga.
02:38I was introduced to a person who was good at meditation.
02:42I thought he was the best person to teach me meditation.
02:49Is he Japanese?
02:50Yes.
02:51When I met him, he was Indian.
02:56Is he Indian?
02:58I thought he was Japanese.
03:00Everyone says so, but I'm from Tampa, Kyoto.
03:05Is that so?
03:07Is that so?
03:08I was surprised.
03:09I thought he was Indian.
03:11Is that so?
03:12Yes.
03:13I started to have a beard when I was doing yoga.
03:18I think my eyes are beautiful.
03:20Your eyes are beautiful.
03:21Your eyes are beautiful.
03:22Your white eyes are not cloudy.
03:23Your white eyes are not cloudy.
03:24Your eyes are beautiful.
03:25You look like an Indian at night.
03:30Where will you go first?
03:32I will go to a place that is expensive and delicious.
03:36Mr. Tsurutaro Kataoka's story of the most delicious food in his life.
03:41First of all, he went to a tempura shop when he was a celebrity.
03:46It is a tempura shop called TENKO in Kagurazaka.
03:49Is this a tempura shop?
03:50Yes.
03:51I ate this many years ago.
03:53That's right.
03:54Actually, I only eat one meal in the morning.
04:00At that time, I went to a tempura shop at night.
04:03I went to a tempura shop with my acquaintance.
04:05I had a meal with the women of Kagurazaka.
04:11After that, I went to a tempura shop.
04:14I went to a tempura shop for a while.
04:15I went to a tempura shop at a large counter.
04:18My husband fried tempura one by one.
04:22He fried tempura with shrimp.
04:25He was a good tempura shop.
04:32This is beautiful oil.
04:35Is this sesame oil good?
04:36Yes.
04:37If you use this oil once, it will be washed away.
04:42It's a waste.
04:43This is such a good oil.
04:45I can't use this oil.
04:47That's right.
04:48This looks delicious.
04:49This is salt.
04:50This is also salt.
04:52I want to eat this with salt.
04:54There are few local shrimp.
04:58I can't make a reservation.
05:00I have to introduce this to you.
05:03Can I introduce this to you?
05:05Of course.
05:06I can't go with you.
05:08I want to go with you.
05:10Is this a kakiage bowl?
05:11This is a kakiage bowl.
05:13This is a kakiage bowl.
05:14This is a kakiage bowl.
05:16This has a lot of tempura sauce.
05:19This is the best.
05:21This has a lot of tempura sauce.
05:23This is good.
05:25This is like an adult hide-and-seek game.
05:28This is good.
05:32Tsurutaro, you sold a lot of fish.
05:35There are many people in their 30s and 40s.
05:38We sold a lot of fish.
05:41I sold about 26 fish.
05:47That's a lot of fish.
05:48That's fast.
05:49That's fast.
05:50It's because there are Hyokin people.
05:542BEAT, NORIO YOSHIO, SHINSUKE, RYUSUKE.
05:58There is a manzai.
05:59I wanted to gather the members of the manzai and do a TV program.
06:05It was 8 PM on Saturday.
06:06The program is called Monster.
06:08I couldn't get any of the programs.
06:11I wanted to do a TV program for three months with guerrillas.
06:17So I said, I can't win, but I'm going to leave a mark.
06:22So I'm going to do the exact opposite of what Drif did.
06:25And he's doing it in a group.
06:29It's a joke that was built, right?
06:31That's right.
06:32So I'm not going to be a team.
06:35It's a manzai, but I'm going to break it all apart.
06:38So I broke it apart.
06:39Sanma-san, Kuni-chan, and I will be able to appear.
06:47Oh, I see.
06:49This time, Sanma-san and Takeshi-san will do it.
06:52And the TV show is now the best 10 on TBS.
06:56If it's the top, let's do a parody at the average best 10.
06:59At that time, a popular match came out.
07:03There's a match, so Tsuru-chan, let's have a match.
07:06Didn't you have a match before that?
07:08I didn't have a match at all.
07:10Isn't it because you were doing the match's vocal mimicry and mobile mimicry?
07:14I didn't do it at all.
07:15I was a komori old lady at that time.
07:17Oh, I see. You were a komori old lady.
07:20I was a komori ghost.
07:22Oppa, oppa, oppa, I'm a ghost.
07:25Tsuru-chan, match, match, match, is that a match?
07:28The recording was on Wednesday, and the director called me on Sunday.
07:32I remember the tape.
07:34I remember the tape.
07:36I've never done a monomani in three days.
07:39I remember the tape.
07:41You just sing.
07:42I just sing and get the hang of it.
07:44The match is energetic.
07:46I'm going to go crazy in the studio.
07:48I'm going to go crazy, and I'm going to hang out there because there's a big tree.
07:52I'm going to hang out there, and I'm going to die in the match.
07:55What kind of script is that?
07:58It's really funny.
07:59So just for a moment.
08:01It's really funny.
08:02Just once.
08:03You're saying you'll never do it again.
08:04No, I'm not.
08:05I'm saying, I'm going to go crazy in the studio.
08:09I'm going to go crazy, and I'm going to die in the studio.
08:13I thought, I don't have this.
08:15I thought, I don't have this.
08:17Tsuru-chan, let's do it again.
08:20It's been 10 years.
08:24I was a guest with Matchi last year.
08:28I've never said it's a match!
08:33He's never said it!
08:35It's all Tsurutaro-san!
08:38He's just imitating Tsurutaro-san.
08:40For example, when Guchiken-san says,
08:43Chochune!
08:44I've never said that.
08:49And when Oba-chan says,
08:50Oba-kei-chan,
08:51I've never said that.
08:53And when Urabe-san says,
08:54I've never said,
08:55I'm Urabe-kun's cat.
08:58I've never said that.
08:59I see!
09:00He's just imitating.
09:02And of course,
09:04Piyoko-chan.
09:06Ah, Piyoko-chan.
09:07What was that?
09:09Piyoko-chan was originally
09:13from a manga called Tenya Wanya-san.
09:15It was a story about Tenya Wanya-san.
09:19And she was selling eggs.
09:22And she was like,
09:23I'm the father of the eggs.
09:24I'm Piyoko-chan.
09:25I'm Piyo-chan.
09:28I'm a duck.
09:29I'm a turtle.
09:30And I thought she had stopped,
09:31but she kept going on and on.
09:33And the people who were making that joke
09:34were going around in circles.
09:35I didn't know there was such a manga.
09:37And Urabe-san was like,
09:38gah!
09:39And he was like,
09:40gah!
09:41And he was like,
09:42What was that?
09:43The joke was so bad!
09:45I loved watching it
09:46since I was a kid.
09:47You loved it!
09:48Yes.
09:49And so,
09:50Takeshi-san was the one
09:51who was doing the parody.
09:53And I was the one
09:54who was wearing a funny wig.
09:55And I did it.
09:56And people loved it.
09:57And so,
09:58I was like,
09:59I'm the father of the eggs.
10:00I'm Piyoko-chan.
10:01I'm going to do it.
10:02And I did it.
10:03And at the best selling store,
10:04Piyoko-chan became the only one
10:05who was independent.
10:06And a lot of singers
10:07who were real came out.
10:08Yes.
10:09Right?
10:10Yes.
10:11And Nagabuchi-san
10:12was like,
10:13It's not a bad song.
10:14And he was the one
10:15who was the hit.
10:16And he was the one
10:17who was the hit.
10:18And Nagabuchi-san
10:19was the one
10:20who was the hit!
10:21It's not a bad song.
10:22But he was the hit!
10:23Pee pee pee.
10:24Pee pee pee.
10:25Pee pee pee.
10:26Pee pee pee.
10:27Pee pee pee.
10:28You're wrong!
10:30It's Nagabuchi-san's turn!
10:31Pee pee pee.
10:32Be quiet!
10:33It's Piyoko-chan's turn.
10:34Nagabuchi-san!
10:35Pee pee pee.
10:36Be quiet!
10:37It's Piyoko-chan's turn.
10:38It's Piyoko-chan's turn.
10:39Great!
10:40Great!
10:41At 2 a.m.,
10:42we filmed the show
10:43until around 2 a.m.
10:44And then,
10:45we went to have fun
10:46at Roppongi,
10:47When I went with Takeshi-san, we all went to different places.
10:53You went to the same agency as Takeshi-san, right?
10:55Yes, the same agency.
10:56Before Hyokin-zoku, I went to Asakusa Shochuku Engeijo.
11:01I was the top batter there.
11:03The second place was Tsubito.
11:05Really?
11:07Yes, Tsubito.
11:08The most memorable thing for me was after the New Year qualifiers,
11:12we went to a bar and had a drink.
11:19In the evening, there was a hide-and-seek game.
11:23Yes, I remember that.
11:25It was an annual event.
11:27We were drinking and Sakai Masaaki-san and Inoue Jun-san were watching.
11:32We were watching the hide-and-seek game and we were jealous.
11:44At the same time, we felt that we had to raise the level of the online game.
11:50You really expressed that.
11:52Yes, that became reality.
11:55Let's continue.
11:56The second place.
11:57Where are we going next?
11:58The next place is a place that is easy to find and delicious.
12:01The next place is a soba restaurant.
12:06I love soba.
12:07Soba is delicious.
12:08This is a famous restaurant called San-go-an in Hiroo.
12:12This is a soba restaurant.
12:13Actually, I am a disciple of Tsuruhachi Kataoka.
12:19You are a master of Tsuruhachi.
12:20I am a master of Tsuruhachi.
12:21I didn't say much about the game.
12:23The most important thing is to eat.
12:25Nagano is famous for soba.
12:27The soba restaurant is noisy.
12:30At first, I asked a soba restaurant to serve me some soba.
12:32They said, then you can have some.
12:36I put soba in the soba choku and put wasabi and green onion on it and ate it.
12:43They said, no, no, no, it's disgusting.
12:46They said, you are an entertainer, so eat it cleanly.
12:51He told me not to add wasabi to the soba soup.
12:55He told me that the soba soup in Tokyo was a little too thick.
13:00He told me to add a lot of it because it wasn't somen.
13:03He told me to add only one centimeter of it.
13:05One centimeter?
13:06Yes, one centimeter.
13:07Wow!
13:08He told me to add a little bit of it and eat it like this.
13:11He told me that comedians should lose weight.
13:14I don't know if it's good or not, but it's not good for my health.
13:21He told me to make sure I eat properly when I go out.
13:27He told me that a lot.
13:29Wow!
13:30I'm learning a lot.
13:31I don't think there's anyone who tells me that now.
13:33So I'm trying to eat it all the time.
13:36Wow!
13:37Do you still go here often?
13:39Yes, I do.
13:40We have lunch here.
13:41That's right.
13:43I recommend you to come here for lunch.
13:46Do you come here once a month?
13:48Yes, once a month.
13:49Wow!
13:50The soba oysters here are really good.
13:55That's amazing.
13:56The soba oysters are really good.
13:58I love the soba oysters.
13:59Wow!
14:00I see.
14:01That's Mr. Tsurutaro.
14:02That's right.
14:03It's Mr. Emoka.
14:04The soba oysters here are different from other restaurants.
14:07They are very soft.
14:10Are they soft?
14:11Yes, they are.
14:12I think this is the only restaurant that serves soba oysters.
14:15I recommend you to come here for soba oysters.
14:20This is Mr. Tsurutaro.
14:21He is a wonderful man.
14:22He is very kind.
14:24He does a great job.
14:26He has big hands.
14:27That's right.
14:28He has a lot of muscles.
14:30Isn't he amazing?
14:31That's right.
14:32If you hit it with your hands, it will be like that.
14:34That's right.
14:35It's natural to have muscles.
14:36You have to mix it with your hands.
14:38This is Mr. Tsurutaro.
14:39This is Mr. Emoka.
14:40This is Mr. Tsurutaro.
14:42This is beautiful soba.
14:43That's right.
14:44It looks delicious.
14:45It looks delicious.
14:46It looks delicious.
14:47We don't have enough soba.
14:48We don't have enough soba.
14:49If you eat a lot of soba, it will be the last one.
14:51It will be the last one.
14:52That's right.
14:54Wow, it looks delicious.
14:55This is beautiful soba.
14:57Mr. Tsurutaro, you have done a lot of things.
15:00Yes.
15:01First of all, you joined the comedy club.
15:02That's right.
15:03You also did a business meeting.
15:04I joined the comedy club in 1931 or 1932.
15:09I was in charge of the TV show called NATSUMONOGATARI.
15:12You were in charge of the TV show.
15:13Yes.
15:14I did a drama with this show.
15:17You won a lot of viewers.
15:19Originally, I was in charge of high school drama.
15:23I was in charge of high school drama.
15:24Is that so?
15:26I wanted to do a drama later.
15:30That's great.
15:31Nowadays, comedians do dramas.
15:34I have done it several times.
15:37You don't say anything.
15:39Did you have any comedians at that time?
15:43I didn't have comedians at first.
15:45I didn't have comedians at first.
15:46However, when I started acting, comedians came out.
15:51Did they say that?
15:52They said I was a comedian.
15:53Did they say that?
15:54I heard that they thought actors were better than comedians.
16:00That's not the case.
16:01I thought I could play this role because I was a comedian.
16:04I thought comedians were actors.
16:07I thought that comedians could play such roles.
16:11I wanted to prove it.
16:13I didn't know if I should do so.
16:17Didn't you care about it?
16:19I didn't care about it.
16:22Why did you go to boxing?
16:24I was a body type of a variety show.
16:28I was 65kg.
16:30I thought that if I didn't reset my body and face, I wouldn't be able to be an actor.
16:44I was 32 years old.
16:46I got my boxing license when I was 33.
16:49It took me a year to get my license and change my body.
16:53I see.
16:54I was determined.
16:56You were determined.
16:58Yes, I was.
16:59I got my license when I was 33.
17:02I played various roles in TV shows.
17:05I played the main characters in the TV series,
17:09such as Kaigan Monogatari and Kindaichi Kosuke.
17:12All the main characters of the TV series ended around that time.
17:16I felt that my body had changed.
17:19That was 39 years ago?
17:21Yes, it was.
17:22That's fast.
17:24Since I was 40 years old,
17:27I wondered what it was that made my soul feel good.
17:34I was depressed for a while.
17:38When I was depressed,
17:41I saw a red flower blooming.
17:45It was a red flower that bloomed beautifully without anyone seeing it because it was cold.
17:51I wondered how wonderful my life would be if I could express my emotions with a picture.
17:59Was it a flower?
18:00Yes.
18:01I've never seen a picture, so I don't know much about painting.
18:04It's a Tsubaki.
18:05That's amazing.
18:07When I started painting,
18:09about 10 days a week,
18:12I went to a club with Mr. Tamori once a month.
18:15We went to a club in Ginza to drink.
18:20Mr. Murakami, who is a master of Bokusai painting,
18:25who draws Edo period pictures, titles, and novels,
18:31came to me and said,
18:33Mr. Tamori, could you introduce me to him?
18:35I said, sure.
18:36He said, let's drink together.
18:38The three of us drank.
18:39He said, it would be fun to do it because you look like a painter.
18:43I accepted it.
18:45He pushed me on my back.
18:47Do you still draw pictures?
18:49Yes, I do.
18:50I see.
18:51That's what you have now.
18:53This is Anmitsu.
18:55I drew a sweet.
18:56The color is called Iwa-enogu in Japanese.
18:59Iwa-enogu?
19:00Yes, Iwa-enogu.
19:01Why did you draw Anmitsu? Do you want to eat it?
19:03I wanted to eat it.
19:05Is there anything you want to do in the future?
19:07I want to make my own food.
19:10Agriculture?
19:11Yes.
19:12You're going to do agriculture.
19:14I'm growing vegetables now.
19:16That's a great life.
19:18It's very interesting.
19:19I want to enjoy cooking with the dishes I make.
19:25That's great.
19:27I have to live at 125.
19:30You can't make it.
19:31I can't make it.
19:33You still have a lot to do.
19:35Let's continue.
19:36Where do you want to go?
19:38It's a cheap and delicious life.
19:42Mr. Tsurutaro Kataoka's life is the best.
19:46It's the ultimate breakfast.
19:52This is the rice I make.
19:54I boil brown rice and red beans together.
19:58After boiling the rice, I add sesame seeds and walnuts.
20:01It's my breakfast every morning.
20:03It's a meal for one meal a day.
20:06It's delicious when it's freshly cooked.
20:08By the way, you eat a lot, right?
20:11Yes.
20:12I eat seasonal fruits.
20:14Do you eat fruits first?
20:16I do yoga and sweat a lot.
20:19How long do you do yoga?
20:21I do yoga from 11 a.m. to 5 a.m. for 6 hours.
20:24Do you do yoga for 6 hours a day?
20:26I do it every day.
20:27I want to do it, but I can't help it.
20:29It's a meal for one meal a day, so I eat a lot.
20:33This is brown rice and red beans.
20:35It looks like red rice.
20:37I add walnuts.
20:40I add sesame seeds.
20:43I add a little salt.
20:46How is it?
20:47This is a staple food.
20:48It's good for your health.
20:50You should eat this.
20:51There is no such delicious food.
20:53You can put it in a bowl you made.
20:56It's the best.
20:58It's a good meal.
21:00It looks like this.
21:03This is good for your health.
21:05It's good for your health.
21:07It takes about two and a half hours to run.
21:09It takes about eight and a half hours to run.
21:11That's right.
21:13I have to get ready.
21:15It takes two and a half hours.
21:17I'm eating yoga, so I've been running for nine and a half hours.
21:21I run as much as I can.
21:22You said you wanted to live up to 120 years old.
21:25Are you serious?
21:27I want to live.
21:28If you live to the fullest, you will live up to 125 years old.
21:32That's the maximum.
21:34If you can live, you should eat healthy.
21:37You should eat healthy and live up to 120 years old.
21:40I like the food that doesn't burden my organs.
21:46Is that so?
21:48I eat that food and do my best today.
21:51I eat that food and do my best today.
21:54I see.
21:57After this, the legendary hot oden game was born.
22:02If you like hot oden, I'll do my best.
22:06I'll do my best.
22:10There was a hot oden game.
22:12Tsurutaro did hot oden before Dacho.
22:16I'm the head of the family.
22:18I'm the head of the family of hot oden.
22:21I gave it to Dacho.
22:24How did that hot oden game start?
22:27There was no story about hot oden at all.
22:31It was winter.
22:33Takeshi was a gonzo.
22:36I was a grandma.
22:39There was a kotatsu in the room.
22:42There was a hot pot on the kotatsu.
22:45The hot pot was boiling.
22:48The time was 4 to 5 minutes.
22:50I was doing this for 4 to 5 minutes.
22:53I was boiling the hot pot in the stove.
22:56It was boiling.
22:58It smelled sweet and spicy.
23:01Takeshi looked happy.
23:04I thought it was dangerous.
23:06Grandma, do you like hot oden?
23:08No, I don't like it.
23:11I like hot oden.
23:13He put hot oden in the pot.
23:15It was really hot.
23:17He blew hot oden.
23:19It was funny.
23:22He put hot oden in the pot every week.
23:29I didn't know that.
23:31I didn't know that.
23:33Thank you for the meal.
23:35Thank you for the meal.
23:37Thank you for the meal.
23:39Thank you for the meal.
23:46I feel the sweetness in my stomach.
23:48Do you feel life?
23:50I have a question.
23:53I heard that your son is a Michelin star.
23:58Is that true?
24:00My third son is a Japanese chef.
24:05That's not good.
24:07That's not good.
24:09Your father can't eat.
24:11He only cooks at night.
24:14You want your son to eat.
24:16That's right.
24:18I don't eat at night.
24:22This program was brought to you by Suntory.
24:32You can eat once a year.
24:34I can't eat at night.
24:39Next time, Mr. Wataru Ichinose.
24:41How can I meet people in this industry?
24:44You just don't realize it.
24:46But the distance is close.
24:48That's not true.