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00:00Div says Steph Curry is just doing it all wrong. It's doing it all wrong
00:05Self-advocate if what you're doing for 16 years is not netting the results you want do something different
00:12Okay, a mouthpiece get into a ref get to text and get ejected go into the press conference afterward and just go off
00:21I'll try it
00:22The problem with that even though at the core of what you're saying it makes sense in life
00:27if you're not getting the result you want do something different you're asking for stuff to do things that are literally against the core of
00:33who he is and
00:34I would argue and this is my point
00:37He shouldn't have to like I'm just not a believer in bailing people out in life like that
00:42I agree with the second part of it. I agree with you shouldn't have to shouldn't have to so he does
00:46But but he shouldn't have to but he does but I'm not bailing the league out like that
00:52It's just not right if you have two people and one person's doing it wrong
00:57You don't look at the person that's doing it right and say adjust the way you're doing it
01:01So it fits with Johnny stupid over here. Who's doing it wrong like no
01:05I am and and what blows my mind about this subject matter is
01:10Is is not even that like I mean it's so easy to come down the road of refs
01:16But if if if what we were talking about was hey for some reason Moses Moody doesn't get any calls
01:24Like whatever whatever
01:27Them's the breaks kids. You haven't made a name for yourself in this league yet, but we're talking about
01:34the face of the
01:36Yeah, we're talking about a guy that gets crowds on the road to cheer for him
01:42Why would the league not go out of their way?
01:47To get it, right
01:50When you're a fish you don't act like you don't watch the games after they're over league
01:55I know you do you tell me you don't see this
01:58It's flying all over the place getting knocked all over the gym, and there's no whistle and you telling me like mom
02:06Yeah, this way it is what right dude if somebody was sacking Tom Brady the wrong way every game
02:14Roger Goodell would kick those people out of the league
02:17Let alone
02:19Worry about Oh Tom. Just you know just the way you're standing like I just well look
02:24I don't understand what homes is a great comp like you look at the playoffs this year you go
02:29He got two 15-yard flags on things that shouldn't have been 15-yard flags yet
02:34You look at Steph Curry 16 years in the league, and he hasn't been the face of the league for 16 years
02:39But he has been for a good nine or so at least he's been one of the faces. He's a four-time champ
02:45He's all these things that are so wonderful yet. He doesn't get the whistle
02:50So let's just go ahead and continue to be the baby-faced assassin and just you know quietly grow
02:58Passive-aggressive postgame commentary, you know what that's not working so what might work is
03:03You get up in somebody and you get after somebody because you know what what you've done is not working
03:10So you'll get this answer right you can continue to do this over and over, but it's not work
03:14What's the one word that our first phone call before we started this show?
03:18What's the one word that I made both of us promise? We would always be?
03:22Authentic correct yeah, and I'm being authentic yes, but you're asking Steph to be inauthentic. No. I'm really not no
03:29You're asking these what you're suggesting is totally you would agree is against the core of who he is I don't know him that well
03:35I do know I know they come on
03:37I know that he's a very competitive person
03:39And I know that he's frustrated. Can he not in his own eloquent way come out and just say
03:47What he wants to say that doesn't make him inauthentic
03:49I don't know well you that's not the way you pitched it a second ago
03:53You pitched a second ago is throw mouthpieces get thrown out get a tech
03:58Knock over a food spread at the press conference or what like didn't go that far
04:02But yes, you'd like no, that's not that my god the world would stop if Steph did that
04:08Going on like he's gotten text before yeah, so when you're frustrated
04:12It's okay to let the officials know if you're frustrated with the calls
04:16You're not getting what I think he does, and I don't think that that makes him suddenly inauthentic
04:20And you know I think if he freaked out at a press conference that feels inauthentic to me
04:26Yeah, that's not you know he can do it in his own way
04:28Yeah, all I'm asking him to do is if you want to change a 16-year pattern you need to do something differently
04:35I'm not excusing the refs and you're right about that
04:38They need to be better about protecting him, but 16 years in they haven't been so balls in your court Steph
04:45Yeah, I see. I think it's in there's just just be like again. You if you're if you're wrong 100 times in a row
04:51We as a society should not adjust to you because you're wrong 100 times in a row 88 9 5 7 9 5 7 8
04:58Let's do it here. We go folks
05:00Hex in Berkeley hi hex. Thanks for calling
05:03Hey
05:04Thanks for putting me on um listen. I want to first off. I want to say a couple just give me a minute for this
05:11Willard I
05:14Well, let me let me start off by saying fundamentally
05:18It's be nice if society changed for the way we thought it should be to do what's right
05:24But that just I agree with dibs if 16 years in a row
05:30You know the same thing keeps happening
05:32There's an old phrase you keep doing what you did you keep getting what you got and so?
05:38With with respect to you know if you're walking down the street and for 16 years
05:43You're wearing red and the same cop arrests you all the time
05:46And you find out that they don't arrest you if you're wearing blue you can keep wearing red because it's not fair
05:53Or you stop wearing the red so that same cop doesn't arrest you the thing is that
05:58Dibs I disagree with you. I agree that you got to change what you're doing
06:03But I also agree with Willard that he's right you stay authentic
06:07And you don't change his brand his brand is a babyface killer. He's done. You know he doesn't you know complain that much
06:14You know etc so how there is a middle ground, and that's what I don't understand to me
06:21What curry needs to do is learn from Butler in this league?
06:26Everybody there's a lot of grabbing and pulling and tugging and we really see it with curry
06:31But the way you get the fouls is when you drive to the basket you run right into somebody and unless they're
06:38Squared up like Pudzinski's done a good job
06:41You're gonna get the fouls all day long and curry is a good enough athlete when he goes in
06:47He ends up avoiding some people that are somewhat sideways or moving
06:53He ought to be throwing himself into people and he doesn't do that
06:57And he hasn't done it for 16 years
06:59And that's why he doesn't get the fouls when he drives to the basket these other guys have all learned to drive into people
07:06That's why cominga starting to get so you know he's been getting thousands. He's learned what he's going down. He's so fast
07:13Nobody can square up so he gets a foul
07:15Curry can do the same thing and if curry just started driving into people when he's going down the lane
07:21He'd be getting fouls all day long, but if you notice when he goes he's avoiding
07:25He's sliding through kids as a great athlete, and he barely gets touched
07:30Hanks, thanks. It's a good phone call. I I'll say this though what it sounds to me
07:35Like and I feel this to a degree in talking to you about it
07:39Dibs is that there is there there's some sort of a suggestion that Steph Curry should change the way he plays basketball
07:46And I'm like oh my god, please please no
07:49I don't want Steph Curry driving in the lane and forcing himself into the chest of the defender that takes away the beauty of the
07:56Way that Steph Curry
07:58Finishes around the rim it takes away quite frankly what Steph has worked so hard on is in his entire career
08:05Which is those creative finishes around the basket how to use other people's body leverage against them it?
08:12That's a beautiful thing to watch and I do not want that to go away
08:16And if that means a few fewer calls, I'm actually okay with that and I bet he is too
08:22I'm not even talking about a style that gets more calls
08:26I'm really simply just talking about the calls that are right there agreed which for some damn reason he doesn't get
08:34Right and let's what is that let's leave it there, okay?
08:37I do what the caller is saying is something that I've said before and it's partly the way he plays
08:43I don't want him to change the way he plays
08:44But a lot of times he doesn't get calls going to the basket because he does avoid contact
08:50He doesn't go into the body. He's 6-2 as you mentioned. He might be a buck 85
08:55I haven't seen him on a scale lately, but he's not gonna go in
08:59Physically draw contact and finish. That's just not his game
09:03So it's really the calls that should go his way that he's not getting look
09:08So let's just stay on that because you're right stylistically. I don't want him to change anything
09:13For me if you want to get the calls that you're not getting and you haven't gotten for 16 years
09:19You have to figure out how you can go about getting those calls, and I don't think that you know what he's doing
09:26Obviously is not netting him the calls that he deserves
09:29But I don't think we've accessed the why yet and and and hold that thought you're listening to 95 7 the game
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09:42Like it's interesting to me how we watch multiple brains have this conversation and take that premise and go two different ways
09:49Like you ask well, well Steph this isn't working. So why?
09:54Won't you do something different? My question is no. No, why is it happening in the first place?
10:00Why is it happening in the first place? We all watch the NBA
10:04We all have agreed on something that's been around since before any of us were born and it's called star treatment
10:12Star treatment and in the NBA and quite frankly in all sports
10:17Basically when all things are equal lean into the star and and and all of us have experienced that in watching sports
10:25and and then there's Steph and you're like for some damn reason it goes the opposite way and
10:33He's even speaking to it on the court after the game
10:36Why on earth would Steph Curry not get star treatment?
10:41Why would the officials not call the fouls that are clearly there
10:47Like we need to access that question right or answer I should say for me just being a longtime
10:54NBA aficionado and a guy who's refereed at lower levels when you see Steph Curry and he gets
11:02contacted a lot of times the contact is not as violent or severe as other players because he doesn't
11:09Attack the rim and go into the body where it's an absolute collision that has to be called a lot of times when Steph goes
11:16To the basket. He is getting to his spot getting to his angle and there's contact, but he's smaller
11:22He is much more slight of frame. And so the contact is not so violent that it
11:29Absolutely demands a whistle now your point about star treatment is the one that I can't get into the head of a referee
11:36It's it's crazy. It feels like a player of his stature should get a lot more of these
11:42tiki-tac touch calls like James Harden gets
11:45Anytime you bump Harden and he embellishes it and Trey Young and that's where I wish people could all see you
11:52You just did I did it. It just did the head snap and I did
11:56I had to stay on mic
11:58You snap the head and you get right back on mic cuz you're a pro
12:01Well executed none of us want him to turn into that Trey Trey Young and Harden and the rest of it
12:08But I do wonder about I don't want him to be a screamer either. I don't want him to be Luca
12:13I don't want him to be a screamer
12:14but I stand there at the other end of the court and have a
12:17Conversation with the ref while the ball who you're supposed to be guarding is dunking at the other end
12:21Well, that's what Westbrook did last night
12:22He smoked the layup and he stood there and then he ran back and he fouled a three-point shooter
12:27That game five different ways and then got a lot of the fan on the way out the door when the fans like value doing
12:32He's a piece of work
12:33I'm not saying that I want Steph to turn into a full Draymond green
12:36But when you have a game like you have against Portland coming up that you're gonna win most likely
12:42Regardless, it's okay to lose your cool to blow a stack to send a message
12:48You're not getting the star treatment you deserve 16 years in so, you know
12:53Just having a postgame moment like last night. That's not sending a message to anybody. Yeah, I just where's the self-assessment like I do
13:01We have this conversation and we're assessing the way Steph does it why can't the league assess the way they're doing it?
13:07Like we all see this. You can't tell me the whole city is a bunch of homers
13:12We all see this like you you you got to be nuts
13:16If you watch the last couple of weeks of Steph Curry play basketball and and tell me you oh, yeah
13:23It looks normal to me looks like every other star
13:26Dude, that was no epic game between Denver and Minnesota last night
13:30Do you know how many free throws there were just in the last 15 minutes?
13:35They called every single time
13:39Jokic or Gordon or Edwards every single time they went in there
13:44If your arms get lifted up as a foul foul every single time and it was a parade to the free-throw line
13:53Denver shot 44 free throws
13:55Minnesota shot 25. Yeah, and one and one. Yes
14:00Thanks to Russell Westbrook. Well, let's go to Judy in Oakland. Hi, Judy. Thanks for calling
14:06Hi there, so I'm super annoyed
14:09I'm sorry with this conversation and did your tripping and so I I don't get how you are expecting Steph
14:16To be responsible for the fact that the rest are not giving him calls and you keep saying 16 years
14:22That just makes it that much more ridiculous that the refs have not gotten it together. This man has four chips
14:29He's got MVPs. He deserves respect. It's not about him having to cut up on the floor and
14:35be
14:37Luca and harden and all the ridiculousness that stuff is annoying and nobody likes watching those games
14:43I hate it when Draymond is going bad on the refs every five minutes. It's annoying. It's not fun to watch
14:50It's not who step is and I don't want him to turn into that person the rest just need to be doing their job
14:58Equally and fairly if you're calling it on one side call it on the other
15:02She stays bleeding with scratches and all the things that isn't his fault
15:07And I'm so annoyed that you're making it his fault that the refs have not given him the respect
15:13He deserves after all these years Judy and thank you for the call. I'm not making it his fault
15:18I'm just looking for Steph Curry to take action in his own way because yes
15:25He's not getting the calls and he stays bleeding and he is not getting the star treatment and we are 16 years into it
15:32So yes, it's the refs who need to make the adjustment, but the refs have not made the adjustment
15:38So if you have a neighbor and their dog craps on your lawn
15:41Over and over and over and you ask your neighbor politely to please okay, please
15:46Please can you please tell Fido to stop it and you know, sorry, right, you know, I'll get it. I'll get it
15:52I'll get it after 16 years
15:53I'm taking a shovel and I'm putting that in your mailbox because enough is enough
15:58I've asked you for 16 years and now guess what?
16:02Fido's five bagger is in your mailbox when you go in there, but what is your PG&E bill?
16:08What did that achieve it achieved? I sent a message. Yes, but did Fido show up again the next day in other words?
16:14None of that
16:15None of that adjudicates your neighbor for his ridiculous behavior
16:20You should not need to build a wall around your front yard because your neighbors a jerk
16:26That's kind of what I'm getting at. I'm with you
16:29But at some point after 16 years, you've got to do something different other than hey Bill
16:35Can you have Fido crap somewhere else? Oh, yeah. Sure dibs. I'll work on it
16:39It's also I do think now we're getting into an area where I also think we're maybe presenting Steph in an inaccurate way
16:45I don't think Steph is not silent on the floor
16:48Steph is not silent and I don't think you're asking for him to go like crazy
16:53Like you're not asking for him to make a scene. Are you? Oh, I'm asking you. I'm asking for him to self-advocate
17:00Well
17:03Whatever he's doing right, it's not working
17:06Which is the refs fault
17:09Well, then let's send a firmly worded email to Adam Silver about how we feel like we're being mistreated
17:15This is this for me. This is my email. This is this show and this microphone and this conversation
17:22I'm not expecting it to be different tomorrow night. Good lord. They're playing the Lakers. It's probably gonna be worse exactly
17:28It's probably gonna be worse. But
17:31Yeah, this is my this is my email
17:34And yes
17:35it'll be ignored just like an email and his email was the cut and you can play it on the other side that he said
17:41The fits and bookie and it was completely passive-aggressive
17:44I want to see aggressive aggressive like these mother jumpers aren't giving me blank
17:50I mean, don't you lose a little bit of what everybody loves about stuff then temporarily?
17:57Like that's I don't know man. That's that's what's so special is you've never even seen it for a minute
18:03You've never seen it right did like well the list of days where Steph was like, ooh, that was a bad
18:10Look is still blank
18:12It's totally blank in 16 years. I threw a mouthpiece once. Yeah, I didn't find that to be a thing