El psicólogo José Miguel Gómez explicó esta mañana en el programa Telematutino 11 por Telesistema cuál es el futuro emocional de los niños que han sido víctimas indirectas de feminicidios.
"La mayoría de ellos pueden recibir ayuda y tratamiento, pero reparar completamente y borrar esa huella es difícil. Son marcas que quedan registradas en su cerebro y demostrarlo también resulta complejo", señaló.
"La mayoría de ellos pueden recibir ayuda y tratamiento, pero reparar completamente y borrar esa huella es difícil. Son marcas que quedan registradas en su cerebro y demostrarlo también resulta complejo", señaló.
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00:00Good morning. Good morning, Dominican Republic, the month of April begins and telematutino begins on the 11th, Tuesday, April 1st, we are in the middle of Lent, this month is the month of the Holy Week, and well, the month of flowers,
00:30of the winds, at least in the Dominican Republic, we welcome you as always, we are going to comment on some of the current issues, we will also be accompanied today by the psychiatrist Dr. José Miguel Gómez,
00:43and as every Tuesday, Dr. Luz Rosa Estrella brings us her statement dedicated to the tips to have a good family, so we invite you to be with us.
00:53There are many topics of interest and good interviews. Today I want to congratulate my brother-in-law, my brother-in-law, Justo Avilés, husband of my only sister, the gladiator Mercedes Núñez, nationalist, patriot, pro-life, but my congratulations to Justo,
01:13who has been an excellent father, and husband, and grandfather. Much health.
01:20Well, as every Tuesday, there is always weekly news. President Abinader, answering questions that surely were through the daily list, because the daily list did an interview with the president of the Haitian Transition Council,
01:39where he asked to normalize relations, the issue of flights, but he also said that Haitians were not unhappy here, well, if they are unhappy, let them go, and the president logically said that there can be no flights because there is no security.
01:54Let's remember that commercial planes from the United States, of very famous airlines, were shot down, so allowing flights is putting the crew in danger, and the Dominicans who can, or the Haitians who fly.
02:11Meanwhile, the situation as it is, and increasingly worse, the president even spoke of a Haitian population that was yesterday, Monday, already taken by one of the Haitian gangs.
02:22And that population that was taken by the Haitian gangs, is just around the route of when the goods are transported from the Dominican Republic to Haiti.
02:34So, that is bad news for the whole picture. The president said of that intention to resume the bilateral mixed commission of both nations,
02:46which is not seen badly, but it will be processed through the Chancellery of the Republic, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which will be in charge of evaluating the possibility that this is possible.
02:57He also said that the measures will be stricter, that they will be more drastic, even more strict, due to the situation in Haiti, due to the toll of the Haitian gangs,
03:10that they take the road, that they take the road of this community that was taken, Mirevale, which is one hour and twenty-five minutes from the border,
03:23and that our exports take that road, and that the Haitian gangs charge tolls to let the goods and trucks pass, and this is going to get stricter.
03:36The president also said that he will continue to invest in works such as the border wall, although he did not say the degree of progress that the wall has,
03:44and improve the equipment to fight against regular immigration. I am concerned that President Abinader said, we have done everything we have been able to do.
03:56So, the issue is that when you do everything you have been able to do and do not get the result of the actions undertaken, it is time to evaluate what is being done and look for new strategies and reinforce.
04:12He says, well, the measures will be more drastic, more strict. What measures, President? The issue seems to be focused on trafficking, on the entry of undocumented people and on letting them remain in the territory.
04:32Because you will tell me, okay, okay, there is trafficking, which is a business, and we know that, and we know who the parties involved are. It is a punishment for those who traffic.
04:42But also, once they remain in the territory, those who give them employment without having the documentation, and we know who they are. So we have to attack that too.
04:56And the worst of all is that when there is no employment, then they go to informality.
05:00Madness is to do the same and expect different results, said Albert Einstein. So, if we have done everything we have been able to do, do not give up, Mr. President, and review what is being done, rethink what is being done, and reinforce what is being done.
05:20So that tomorrow they do not tell you that you were the culprit. Yesterday, for example, I saw in La Semanala, Chotin, the senator, what is his nickname?
05:33Senator Porigüey, he said that the part of Matamosquito, which seems to be where the largest concentration of Haitians is, in the Hoyo de Frutos, he says that this arose six years ago.
05:45He even had to close a property. They were allowed to enter two or three, and after you enter two or three, you take a land.
05:54From then on, that is filled. It happens with Haitians and it also happens with Dominicans.
05:59They are inhospitable places because there is no service, there is no drinking water, there is no energy, there is no sanitary drainage, and you can imagine the infrahuman conditions in which they live.
06:14And here one has a situation, especially for those of us who are in the media, where there is a very small part of the population, very small, which is Haitian.
06:26Some, perhaps out of ignorance, because they do not visualize what it means that in a country you allow people to continue entering.
06:35It is as if you are in your house, as it was said before, you arrange a relative, but you keep arranging relatives, and there comes a time when the arrangements are more than the family, and there they take away the house.
06:47There are others who do not, there are others who do it out of interest, to defend their interests.
06:53Of course, if I were a landowner, I would be happy to have Haitians locked up there.
07:00I don't pay social security, I don't liquidate them, I have them in infrahuman conditions, and I'm getting rich with the work of those Haitians.
07:09So what does the Dominican Republic care about, that landowner or that builder?
07:17Now, that is not the case for most Dominicans, that we do not benefit from the work of Haitians, and that we are carrying a passive in schools, in hospitals, and sooner or later in the country.
07:31Why doesn't Frank Rainieri have a cold well in Punta Cana?
07:36Ah, no, Bávaro does, because Bávaro does not hurt anyone.
07:41Bávaro is being ravaged, and when there are no works, what are the Haitians going to do in Bávaro?
07:48Commit crimes, or sell everything in the corners, and Bávaro as a pole, you will see that it will deteriorate.
07:56I hope it doesn't succumb, and that's what tourist entrepreneurs have to see, the ravage.
08:05Yes, because the responsibility must be shared, Ramón, and this is not that no one is against Haiti.
08:12On the contrary, we are pro-Haiti, and I hope Haiti recovers and becomes a prosperous nation, worthy of the people, of its inhabitants, to be able to live there.
08:22But that is a responsibility of them, mainly, to resurface and make a nation that deserves the people.
08:31But they are the same people.
08:33Another thing is that countries have rules, and we have to get to a point.
08:40What is the drama, what is the issue of migration worldwide, and what are the countries doing?
08:47There is a worldwide rejection.
08:49In the United States, we are seeing what is happening with Trump, who is also committing extraordinary injustices.
08:58People who are 25 years old, who are being separated from their children who were born in the United States,
09:04and people who, because they have a tattoo, are being sent to El Salvador without trial, and they are going to spend their entire lives in prison in El Salvador.
09:15And people who had their documents.
09:18Also.
09:19Because the issue is that, those who do not have documents, do not have arguments.
09:23Those who came in fraudulently, well, that has no explanation.
09:30But those who already had a facility, given by the government, who had welcomed her, taking it away suddenly is hard.
09:39Well, there is a Palestinian teacher who went on a trip when the government came in, and she had a residence, and she was a teacher in the United States.
09:48And there is a young student, and there is a litigation, because he was a Palestinian, and he was protesting against what is being done against Hamas,
09:59or not against Hamas, but against the Palestinian people.
10:01And the guy has a residence, and he is married to an American woman, and a deportation order weighs on him.
10:09But I wish Haiti would solve its problem of violence, and it would develop.
10:17Today there are statements, excuse me, by Hito Bisonot, talking about the possibilities of Nershawring in Haiti.
10:26Imagine, if Nershawring has scarce possibilities in the Dominican Republic, because Trump wants them to settle there.
10:35Imagine, what investor is going to put a penny in Haiti, where there is no security.
10:43What is missing is that the gang takes over Palacio, and the Transition Council has to flee Haiti.
10:51That is the last thing that is missing.
10:53So, to speak in Haiti about the hope that God has given results.
10:58And what Ramon says, he advocates, is that Haiti can create jobs in its own territory,
11:07but so far they have not been able to achieve it, and what does it indicate that they can do it from now on?
11:12No, with this situation of violence.
11:14With this situation of violence.
11:15Nobody invests in a country where there is no security.
11:17But Hito favors the co-production with Haiti, which also favors and facilitates Nershawring,
11:25so that Haitians have a job in their territory and can stay there.
11:29That would be ideal.
11:31So, these statements come after that interview that Elistin did every day with the Haitian Transition Council,
11:41which now wants to have a dialogue with the Dominican Republic in the mixed commission.
11:46I remember, Ramon, I remember that commission when it was created, I think in the government of Leonel Fernandez,
11:52where they left us waiting several times.
11:54Do you remember that?
11:56Yes, at the time there was, and then there was not, but they left us waiting.
12:02Now, who will be the interlocutors?
12:05Suppose that the Chancellery says, yes, let's talk.
12:09Who are you going to talk to?
12:11There is no government there.
12:13It is a government that does not dominate the territory, so it cannot make decisions of any kind.
12:18It cannot reach agreements with the Dominican Republic at all.
12:21And obviously, the Ministry of Industry and Commerce, of course,
12:24favors the legislation that applies to border co-production.
12:31It gave the example of Codevis.
12:33What a good scare they have gone through there in Haiti.
12:36And the development of Haiti.
12:38In Codevis, like twice, Haitian turbos have entered.
12:41And it was a good project.
12:43And it was, we have to congratulate Capellán because it has taken risks.
12:47If only there were 50 Codevis along the entire border.
12:51But you can't.
12:53It is impossible in the current situation to take advantage of the hub that allows,
12:59free of tariffs and without the obligation of Haiti to receive American goods without taxes.
13:07That is, there is no reciprocity.
13:09However, it has not been able to be taken advantage of.
13:11Nair shorting, even worse.
13:13But even so, Hito has been working on the issue of semiconductors.
13:19And the president has talked to you about that,
13:22about attracting American investment to make semiconductors in the Dominican Republic
13:27with Nair shorting, but in one of those,
13:29Trump comes with a 25% tariff on semiconductors.
13:33By the way, tomorrow Trump says it is the day of liberation.
13:38Because tomorrow he is going to announce the tariffs to the whole world.
13:43By the way, democracy needs counterweights.
13:50And how good it is when there is independent justice.
13:53And when Congress does not depend on the executive power.
13:56And it is still one of the strengths of the United States,
13:59that there are independent federal judges.
14:02I don't know if Trump is going to lower them.
14:05But a judge from California temporarily stopped
14:09the deportation of 350,000 Venezuelans
14:12who had accepted the TPS,
14:15that is, the temporality that previous governments had made exceptions
14:21with refugees from Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela.
14:27Countries where there was a serious economic situation of violence
14:31and that Trump wants to take it in the middle.
14:34That would imply half a million Haitians.
14:37But for the moment, that is a debate.
14:40And how good it is that there are judges who oppose that.
14:44There was one who gave an order on the issue of El Salvador,
14:47but as you want, the plane took off.
14:49Yes, because this is on hold, this has not been resolved.
14:52This is the opinion of this judge, the judge of the district,
14:55Eduard Chen, who paused the decision
14:59to withdraw the national security program
15:04that protects the beneficiaries from being deported.
15:07So, listen to this.
15:09The court considers that the action of the secretary
15:12threatens to cause irreparable damage
15:15to hundreds of thousands of people
15:17whose lives and means of subsistence will be severely interrupted.
15:23That is the Secretary of Security,
15:25hard-handed, Christine Noem.
15:28Yes, it will cost the United States thousands of millions
15:31in losses in economic activity,
15:33harm the health and public security of communities
15:36throughout the country.
15:38So, the writing also points out that the government
15:41has not been able to demonstrate,
15:43hey, how interesting is this,
15:45that continuing to grant this temporary protection
15:48to Venezuelans would cause some important or negative damage
15:53that justifies the fact of suspending the program.
15:56That is, things are evaluated, cost-benefit,
15:59what is lost, what is gained,
16:01what implications does it have,
16:03and above all because a program had been hosted.
16:06It also points out that a high percentage
16:10are graduates of universities
16:12and that it even contributes more to the economy
16:14than many Americans.
16:16But each country has its rights.
16:20In Europe there is also a wave of right-wing parties
16:24about to take power through the electoral route
16:27that are also radically opposed to migration
16:30because migration is even more dangerous in Europe
16:33because it is Muslim.
16:35We are going to commercials.
16:38Yes, we have this left, Ramón,
16:40that we had in the script,
16:42but I think we can treat it as a tragedy
16:45that happened with the doctor,
16:47that has left us impacted by a person,
16:50a retired captain of the Navy,
16:52who was considered a correct person,
16:56good, calm, humble, hardworking.
17:01He inexplicably killed his wife,
17:04his son, a daughter-in-law,
17:06and he was another son,
17:08and then he committed suicide.
17:10So this has no explanation
17:12unless a psychiatrist explains all this to us.
17:18So we invite you to continue with Telematutino 11.
17:27Telematutino 11
17:31The interview with Telematutino 11,
17:33important people to discuss important issues,
17:35and what is more important than mental health?
17:38Dr. José Miguel Gómez is with us,
17:40who, in addition to being a psychiatrist,
17:42is a great writer.
17:44He has written very important books
17:46analyzing the psychology of Dominican politicians,
17:50of the Dominican president,
17:52but he is also a writer
17:54that I do not miss on Mondays in the newspaper today,
17:57with articles related to his career,
17:59but also sometimes related to other topics.
18:02Doctor, thank you very much.
18:04Good morning, doctor.
18:05Nice to see you.
18:06Nice to see you too.
18:08And precisely, in his article from last week,
18:12which was very atonic,
18:13because it coincided with the case of the young Indian
18:16who disappeared and did not appear,
18:20or will never appear,
18:21and you dealt with the issue of the treatment
18:24or handling of such a terrible situation
18:27for the relatives of a person who has disappeared
18:30and who has anguish.
18:33Sometimes he appears,
18:35but there are times when,
18:36definitely, that pain remains open.
18:40And you make a series of recommendations
18:42about the handling of a situation
18:45that no one would like to live.
18:47Well, right now there is a missing child
18:50in Jarabacoa.
18:51In Jarabacoa, yes.
18:52And it is a great pity for a seven-year-old child
18:54who does not appear in Jarabacoa.
18:57And I said in the article
18:59that the best thing is prevention.
19:03The three people who disappear the most in the world
19:07are the old people,
19:10the people who have dementia,
19:12who have some mental alteration
19:16or who have forgetfulness or disorientation.
19:19Those people, if they leave them alone,
19:22go out for a walk,
19:24they do not find the place where they live,
19:27and they walk and walk,
19:29and they can disappear.
19:31When children disappear,
19:33unfortunately,
19:35there is always a committed adult.
19:38In teenagers...
19:40There is a committed adult.
19:42Committed to harm,
19:46involved in harm,
19:48in the disappearance.
19:50Right?
19:51Those are the world statistics.
19:54In the case of teenagers
19:58and early adults,
20:00they are already due to other problems,
20:03of the type of group,
20:05hitmen, vandalism,
20:07gangbanging,
20:10that occurs.
20:11Now what is being discussed
20:13with the disappearances
20:15is that in the Dominican Republic,
20:18last year,
20:19there were a thousand and something
20:21of disappearances.
20:22What is being raised is that
20:24in the accompaniment,
20:26when you put, after 48 hours,
20:29it is considered that a person has disappeared
20:32in the Dominican Republic.
20:34In the case of the young woman,
20:37the family asked to close the case
20:40because in their culture
20:43it is like that.
20:45But the Dominican law...
20:46Many people are lost.
20:48But the Dominican law
20:50has to last four years
20:52to declare a person
20:55disappeared.
20:57Look, when a family
21:01has a member who disappears,
21:04that lasts months,
21:06that lasts years,
21:07you have to put in the shoes of that family.
21:10That is agony,
21:12that is post-traumatic stress,
21:14that is depression,
21:16that is sleep disorders,
21:18that is hope with despair.
21:22And the most difficult thing
21:24after those years
21:26is to work on acceptance,
21:30is to work on resignation,
21:34is to teach them to close that grief
21:38and if you can bury that person,
21:41understand that he will not return.
21:44That hurts a lot.
21:46The police were told in the article,
21:48and I suggested it to them in a meeting,
21:51that when people put the search for disappearance
21:55and they go to hospitals, prisons,
21:58Cañada, the sea,
22:00and they don't show up,
22:02in the search process,
22:04they have to use psychologists
22:06to accompany them.
22:10Yes, the accompaniment of grief.
22:13Because that family
22:15goes into shock, into denial,
22:18says that they saw him,
22:20that they called him,
22:21that he is going to come,
22:23and there are many states
22:25of psycho-emotional alteration,
22:28psychological.
22:30So there is someone who has to help them
22:33to evacuate that pain,
22:35that anguish, that grief.
22:37So the accompaniment is important.
22:40And finally,
22:41it has already been achieved
22:43to have the Association of Disappeared Persons,
22:47where it is done as a group therapy,
22:50as if it were Alcoholics Anonymous,
22:52and where everyone experiences and speaks
22:55and expresses what was their experience
22:58four or five years ago
23:00that their mother or father disappeared
23:03and does not appear.
23:04And now those group therapies are important.
23:08Well, doctor, changing the subject,
23:11we are more and more surprised,
23:14and we are confused,
23:15but we see that with a certain frequency
23:17there are cases that are apparently inexplicable
23:20for human reasoning,
23:22as happened with the retired captain of the Navy,
23:26that the press claims that he killed his wife,
23:30killed his son,
23:32killed his daughter-in-law,
23:34and saw another son,
23:36and then committed suicide.
23:38But both the victim's relatives
23:42and the neighbors say
23:44that he was a very good neighbor,
23:46that he was a correct person,
23:48calm,
23:49who never witnessed,
23:50at least for them,
23:52any kind of altered behavior.
23:55What does all this explain?
23:57What can a psychiatrist say
23:58about this terrible tragedy?
24:01Look, it's unfortunate.
24:02That has that impacted community.
24:06In the Dominican Republic,
24:09popularly,
24:11a phrase is used,
24:13symbolic,
24:14not to understand that.
24:15People say,
24:16but the devil got into him.
24:18Have you heard that?
24:20Well, one knows
24:22that it was not the devil that got into him.
24:24One knows that
24:26when a person
24:29makes a decision like this,
24:32articulates a system of beliefs,
24:35a series of distortions
24:38in their ideas,
24:40in their thinking,
24:42that are articulated to prejudice,
24:45that are articulated to hatred,
24:48that are articulated to negative emotional attitudes,
24:52and that instead of organizing in their brain
24:56a reflexive,
24:58negotiated,
25:00tolerated way out,
25:02they radicalize in their thinking
25:06and look for ways out that are not the right ones.
25:10So,
25:12in that family,
25:14if the Dominican Republic
25:17is interested and wants
25:20to have a diagnosis,
25:25one should go with a psychiatrist
25:28to that family,
25:30do a psychosocial survey,
25:32one with a social worker,
25:35to the community,
25:37look for his file in the armed forces,
25:40and look for the hospital file,
25:42and then see
25:44if he had had previous psychiatric antecedents,
25:49events,
25:50or within the armed forces.
25:53So, only a psychiatric pathology
25:55makes a person commit such a crime?
25:59More than a psychiatric pathology,
26:03a family pathology.
26:05Many times, they are families
26:09that are sectorized, broken,
26:12broken,
26:14from the point of view of attachment,
26:17from the point of view of sense of belonging,
26:20and sectorized families.
26:22Sectorized means that there is a permanent,
26:26latent conflict,
26:28for many years,
26:30and then the family is sectorized.
26:32The children leave with the mother
26:35and enter a border.
26:37And obviously, when anger or anger is unleashed,
26:41notice that
26:43the family does it with several members.
26:46Because the child was on a visit,
26:49and goes with the wife,
26:51on a visit,
26:52for a few days.
26:54So, it's strange.
26:55When a person commits a femicide or commits suicide,
26:59it's a behavior,
27:01but not with all the members of the family.
27:04But I tell you that
27:05there was a family-type problem
27:09not solved,
27:10sustained,
27:12for a long time.
27:13Well, doctor, necessarily a person like that is a psychopath.
27:16No.
27:17The majority of people who do that
27:19are not psychopaths.
27:21Because the psychopath hardly kills himself.
27:26The psychopath was like that soldier who killed himself and said,
27:29I'm sorry.
27:30Yes.
27:31What happened in those days.
27:32With that coldness.
27:33With that coldness.
27:34With that coldness,
27:35and that indifference,
27:36and that lack of emotional empathy.
27:40But I'm worried, as a psychiatrist,
27:43that gender violence is normalizing.
27:46That is to say,
27:47if you look at these three months,
27:51there are more than 17,
27:53at the end of the year,
27:5417 murdered women,
27:5714 without querellas,
28:00that prevention cannot be done
28:02if you do not file a complaint
28:04or do not file a querella
28:06to put the distance.
28:08But I'm worried because we are normalizing
28:11where people are getting used to
28:14that if they have a problem of difference with their partner,
28:18they can articulate, hurt their partner.
28:21Do not make a friendly separation,
28:24do not make an emotional distancing,
28:28but before the anguish of separatism,
28:31do not solve,
28:32that many do not accept,
28:34that they are left,
28:36then what they think is
28:38to go against the couple.
28:40Doctor, when you talk about gender violence,
28:42you cannot amplify,
28:44and why is it normalizing?
28:46It is normalizing,
28:48first,
28:49by the percentage that is increasing,
28:52gender violence against women.
28:54It is very high.
28:56We are in the fifth place in Latin America.
28:58When you say violence,
28:59do you mean that they hit you,
29:01that they kill you?
29:02Not only...
29:03Or are we talking about other things?
29:05No, we are talking about everything that includes violence.
29:09There is physical violence,
29:11there is emotional violence,
29:13there is psychological violence,
29:15there is sexual violence,
29:17there is financial violence.
29:19So,
29:21all those indicators of violence.
29:24And there are many families,
29:26the harassment,
29:28the abuse is very high
29:31in the relationships of couples.
29:34So here we have to do a great job
29:37in the educational system,
29:38in schools,
29:39universities,
29:41in social terms,
29:43to dismantle
29:46the roles
29:47and dismantle the belief systems,
29:49especially the culture of machismo,
29:52the culture of patrificality,
29:55the culture of power.
29:57Here men have a lot of power over women.
30:00But it is an economic issue.
30:01That fact that you said,
30:03it seems to me that the Minister of the Interior said it, Farideh,
30:06that of 17,
30:0814 have never filed a complaint.
30:11The woman does not file a complaint,
30:13is it out of fear,
30:14or because of the economic dependence of the couple?
30:18There are many women who do it
30:20out of fear,
30:22because they are intimidated,
30:24they are harassed,
30:26and they do not have a network of support,
30:28they do not have built-in protective factors.
30:31A woman who is raped in her house
30:34and does not have a bond with her father,
30:36with her siblings,
30:38does not have a network of support,
30:41is twice
30:44more
30:45a victim
30:47of her aggressor.
30:49She controls her much more.
30:52There are others who do it
30:54because of economic dependence,
30:56because they depend
30:58emotionally,
31:00and above all emotional dependence.
31:02When there is a person
31:04who is emotionally dependent on the couple,
31:07sometimes he has
31:09financial autonomy,
31:11but he does not have emotional autonomy,
31:13and sometimes he has
31:15emotional autonomy,
31:18but he does not have financial autonomy.
31:21Notice that the femicides occur more
31:24in the most depressed sectors,
31:27where there is low school education,
31:29and where there is an informal economy,
31:32and relationships
31:34in poverty
31:36and social marginalization.
31:38Notice that in the medium and medium-high
31:40and high sectors,
31:42the femicide is very low.
31:45It does not mean that there is no mistreatment.
31:47There is mistreatment,
31:49but the mistreatment in those sectors occurs more
31:51financially, economically,
31:53psychologically, and emotionally.
31:55Let's take a short break.
31:59We still have many topics of interest
32:01with Dr. José Miguel Gómez.
32:12Dr. José Miguel Gómez, psychiatrist,
32:14joins us this morning on Telematutino 11.
32:16One of the pandemic
32:18that we have permanently
32:20in the Dominican Republic
32:21is the issue of gender violence.
32:23Before the break,
32:25I wanted to ask a question.
32:27What is more important?
32:29Is it the issue of education?
32:32Is it the economic issue?
32:35Is it that network of support?
32:37Because you say, well,
32:39perhaps women do not have a network of support
32:41when they are depressed,
32:43but many times they tell the woman,
32:45but he pays you everything,
32:47he keeps you, look,
32:49that man has you like a queen,
32:51or that man is the one who pays you everything,
32:53and he can't stand you.
32:55What do you think?
33:11But power in what sense?
33:13Emotional? Economic?
33:25The power in the roles,
33:27the provider in what he decides,
33:29the power in the authority,
33:33the social status,
33:35and the power of the provider.
33:37So, in unequal relationships,
33:39with a lot of load of inequality,
33:41in relationships,
33:43who has the power?
33:47What is a relationship
33:49with a lot of load of inequality?
33:51Well, a relationship based on inequality
33:53and inequality is a relationship
33:55that ignores your right.
33:59A relationship where you have permission
34:01to go out,
34:03the other cannot go out.
34:05Where you have permission to grow,
34:07to study and to advance,
34:09and you take away from your partner
34:11the right to study,
34:13to have friends,
34:15who cannot visit their relatives,
34:17who cannot make economic decisions,
34:19who have to share everything,
34:21who have to have an attitude
34:23of submission and control.
34:25So,
34:27those relationships
34:29so loaded with inequality,
34:31those relationships
34:33without rights,
34:35obviously,
34:37are very painful.
34:39And those women
34:41are victims of emotional and psychological abuse.
34:43And there are many people
34:45who have relationships
34:47without agreements
34:49of established contracts
34:51and, above all,
34:53of what they call
34:55non-negotiated relationships
34:57or non-negotiated
34:59basic needs.
35:01That is,
35:03most people
35:05enter a relationship
35:07without a marital contract,
35:09without a marriage contract,
35:11without a marriage contract,
35:13without a marriage contract,
35:15without a marital contract
35:17that is discussed and agreed upon,
35:19of what you expect.
35:21And much less after a crisis.
35:23Any couple
35:25who enters a crisis
35:27due to violence, abuse,
35:29and decision due to infidelity
35:31and decides to re-establish
35:33the relationship,
35:35has to be established
35:37in a new contract, verbalized and discussed,
35:39with a therapist
35:41or a prosecutor.
35:43And it is said
35:45that in those relationships
35:47there will be no new abuse.
35:49So, if a woman lives
35:51with a husband
35:53where there is a lot of
35:55inequality in the relationship
35:57and where there is
35:59recurrent abuse
36:01and that husband is
36:03what they call a high-risk couple,
36:05then
36:07leave that relationship.
36:09Do not return to that relationship
36:11because in high-risk relationships
36:13with emotionally
36:15dangerous men
36:17you will end up
36:19damaged in that relationship.
36:21It is better to lose the economic aspect.
36:23It is better to lose the status.
36:25But leave
36:27a high-risk relationship.
36:29This is what I recommend
36:31to the couples I see.
36:33Doctor,
36:35the future of these young men
36:37who see the murder
36:39of their mother.
36:41For example, there is a boy, a survivor,
36:43a son, and in our society
36:45the state will not take care
36:47of the treatment
36:49of that child, of that boy.
36:51Many times he will be raised
36:53by his grandmother, by his grandparents.
36:55What is the emotional future
36:57of a child
36:59who is a victim
37:01of such a terrible situation?
37:03Look, most of them
37:05can be worked, and they are worked.
37:07But to completely
37:09repair,
37:11to disappear
37:13that somatic
37:15footprint
37:17that remains registered
37:19in their brain,
37:21to dismantle it is difficult.
37:23And here there is no
37:25longitudinal study that tells you
37:27what happened to the children
37:2920 years ago who were
37:31victims of a
37:33femicide in their homes
37:35when they saw that.
37:37When one has had to see
37:39children who lived
37:41a very traumatic
37:43violence in the
37:45primary environment of
37:47father and mother, the two main
37:49figures, those children
37:51are affected.
37:53They are the children who have more
37:55behavioral problems,
37:57learning problems,
37:59to establish healthy relationships,
38:01to function
38:03and adapt in society,
38:05to be able to set up
38:07sustainable and viable
38:09life projects, and to structure
38:11healthy and balanced
38:13emotions.
38:15And they are the ones who
38:17suffer more from depression,
38:19post-traumatic stress,
38:21identity disorder,
38:23anger management,
38:25the tendency to drug abuse,
38:27to drug use
38:29due to trauma.
38:31That is the cascade
38:33of psycho-emotional damage
38:35that remains
38:37in the brain of those children.
38:39And one sees it.
38:41Those of us who have had to see
38:43many of these affected children,
38:45one knows
38:47that they have that emotional burden
38:49and that emotional damage.
38:51Doctor, the accompaniment
38:53of mental health
38:55in our country,
38:57we see that
38:59insurers do not
39:01cover treatments
39:03or anything like that,
39:05but the importance it has
39:07for a person
39:09to see how
39:11their mental health is.
39:13Look,
39:15the Dominican Republic,
39:17Jacqueline,
39:19before the pandemic,
39:21there was talk of 20%
39:23of Dominicans
39:25having a mental disorder.
39:27That is now being talked about
39:29as 25%.
39:31In the Dominican Republic,
39:33in Latin America,
39:35but here it has increased
39:37the psychomotional
39:39and social problems
39:41in terms of mental health.
39:43And the data are telling you.
39:45For example, homicides have increased.
39:47And notice that the
39:49causes of homicides
39:51are psychosocial problems
39:53that can be foreseen.
39:55That is, in conflict resolution.
39:57In conflict resolution.
39:59Issues such as beating,
40:01a candle,
40:03a car crash,
40:05inheritance,
40:07a couple conflict,
40:09a family conflict,
40:11a neighbor conflict.
40:13These are the problems,
40:15the triggers of homicides.
40:17If you look at it,
40:19most could be resolved
40:21in conflict mediation,
40:23but if you look at it,
40:25in communication culture,
40:27that should have stayed there.
40:29I'm talking about a violence
40:31that is normalizing.
40:33We are talking about
40:35a transport
40:37and a transit
40:39that is highly stressful.
40:41The first generator of stress
40:43is transport
40:45in the Dominican Republic.
40:47We have many people
40:49who do not sleep
40:51because of the lack of electricity.
40:55Smoking has decreased,
40:57but alcohol
40:59and drugs consumption
41:01has increased.
41:03Psychosocial violence
41:05has increased
41:07and problems have increased.
41:09Despite the fact that the economy,
41:11and you correct me,
41:13has had sustained growth
41:15in the last 20 years,
41:17society has mobilized
41:19so much
41:21that we are no longer
41:23eminently rural
41:25to become urban.
41:27Urban without planning.
41:29So,
41:31this drop in quality of services
41:33is what has duplicated
41:35the problems of social conflict
41:37due to the lack of planning.
41:39And now we have
41:41an important deficit
41:43in mental health.
41:45We have a hospital bed deficit.
41:47We have a deficit
41:49of health workers,
41:51psychiatrists, clinical psychologists,
41:53nurses
41:55in the area of
41:57mental health nursing.
41:59We do not have
42:01juvenile and adolescent units.
42:03And we have a big problem
42:05because we do not have
42:07units of detoxification
42:09and psychosocial rehabilitation
42:11for drugs
42:13in large communities.
42:15And we have
42:17the absence
42:19also of
42:21psychosocial units
42:23to pick up
42:25mentally ill
42:27who wander the streets
42:29who do not have contact with families.
42:31Doctor, but the consumption of alcohol
42:33that has increased
42:35and the consumption of drugs,
42:37of the other drugs that have increased,
42:39which of the two produces more violence?
42:41Alcohol.
42:43Alcohol produces more violence
42:45because it is the most used
42:47and there are many
42:49problematic drinkers.
42:51Although
42:53heroin and cocaine,
42:55crack,
42:57produce violence
42:59more intense
43:01than alcohol
43:03and deteriorate the brain more
43:05than alcohol
43:07and hook
43:09more easily
43:11producing addiction and dependence
43:13and behavioral alterations.
43:15True?
43:17But alcohol is legal
43:19and has lowered
43:21the early start
43:23in alcohol consumption.
43:25We have a population of boys
43:2715, 13 years old
43:29starting for the first time in alcohol.
43:31That is,
43:33and there is a culture
43:35of alcohol consumption.
43:37The Dominicans
43:39to celebrate anything they drink.
43:41There is a problem.
43:43But why in other nations
43:45where there is a high consumption
43:47of prohibited substances
43:49that in some countries
43:51are allowed
43:53and have that very high consumption
43:55do not have the violence
43:57that we have?
43:59Well, they do not have it
44:01first because
44:03in those countries you do not have
44:05a firearm.
44:07In those countries
44:09the police work more efficiently
44:11and the regulations
44:13are met.
44:15Notice that in those countries
44:17they do not sell you alcohol after 10 at night.
44:19We are talking about some European countries.
44:21True? They do not accept it.
44:23Where people respect the rules.
44:25Where you go with three
44:27and the one who is going to drive
44:29does not take that day
44:31for the others to take.
44:33Notice that the traffic accidents
44:35are less than here.
44:37Despite the fact that
44:39we are tripled in population.
44:41The first cause of death
44:43in the Dominican Republic
44:45in the productive age
44:47and it is a shame to say it
44:49is a traffic accident.
44:51More than heart attacks.
44:53We have little time left
44:55but there is an article by Bernardo Vega
44:57that speaks
44:59of how unhappy
45:01we Dominicans are.
45:03We say that the Dominican was very unhappy
45:05and he begins to tell
45:07of the countries
45:09that are happier
45:11and we are far away
45:13from that.
45:15We are in the 70s
45:17and we used to say
45:19that we were
45:21happy
45:23but it seems
45:25that we are not as happy as we thought.
45:27A people who danced their misfortune.
45:29He speaks of a country
45:31of the bachata, of the merengue
45:33of the bowie, of the formadones.
45:35What has happened?
45:37Look,
45:39those are the Scandinavian
45:41Nordic countries
45:43where the indicators of happiness are measured.
45:45Finland,
45:47Denmark, Norway
45:49and the indicators of happiness
45:51have it
45:53because
45:55they have a better education,
45:57they have better health,
45:59they have better standards of living,
46:01better quality of life,
46:03better democracy
46:05and people have
46:07existential problems solved.
46:09But is Costa Rica in the first places?
46:11Of Latin America
46:13is Costa Rica and then Mexico.
46:15And then Mexico.
46:17Despite the violence.
46:19Despite the violence.
46:21Now, in the Dominican Republic
46:23what was discussed
46:25in that study
46:27is that we confuse
46:29what is
46:31cultural structuring
46:33of happy moments
46:35and happiness
46:37which is very different.
46:39In the Greek culture
46:41of the Dominican chelchosa,
46:43the creativity,
46:45the jocosity
46:47of the Dominican
46:49makes it
46:51a country of
46:53more episodes,
46:55happy moments.
46:57But it does not mean
46:59that this is existential happiness.
47:01Why do we have
47:03many problems pending
47:05to be solved
47:07for you to say
47:09you are happy
47:11because you live in a country
47:13where the standard of quality
47:15and warmth
47:17you have it guaranteed.
47:19You do not have it in the Dominican Republic.
47:21Right?
47:23However,
47:25we are happy
47:27and we have a party
47:29until the cyclone goes away.
47:31And we enjoy many things
47:33in the lack
47:35and we laugh at our evils.
47:37And we are one of the countries
47:39not now,
47:41but if you measure the Dominican Republic
47:4320 years ago,
47:45it had high levels
47:47of social altruism,
47:49of social solidarity,
47:51of truque,
47:53of collectivism,
47:55of shared happiness.
47:57The economy and the citizens' insecurity
47:59broke with that.
48:01No one stops
48:03on a road
48:05to help.
48:07No one wants to be in solidarity
48:09with the neighbor.
48:11No one wants to stop
48:13after 10.30
48:15at a traffic light.
48:17No one wants to give directions.
48:19No one helps the lady
48:21to put the rubber
48:23after 10.00.
48:25So,
48:27we have been
48:29dehumanizing
48:31with the process
48:33of sociocultural
48:35disruption of before
48:37and, logically,
48:39individualism, selfishness
48:41has been implemented a lot in the Dominican Republic.
48:43That is a shame and a truth
48:45because they had a very gregarious country.
48:47It still is.
48:49The Dominican Republic is still good,
48:51gregarious, servile.
48:53It is very greedy.
48:55We still have some of that.
48:57We still have some of that.
48:59Doctor, thank you very much.
49:01We always learn a lot with you in the programs.
49:03Thank you very much for the invitation.
49:05And now we have the doctor
49:07Luz Rosa Estrella
49:09with the segment
49:11of psychology,
49:13but directed to the family.
49:15Greetings.
49:17Today we are going to talk
49:19about the fact that
49:21there is nothing
49:23more important
49:25than the person
49:27who is with you.
49:29When you meet
49:31in the family,
49:33when you meet among friends,
49:35it is precisely
49:37there, in that meeting
49:39that is taking place
49:41that is essential.
49:43The most important thing
49:45is and are
49:47those people
49:49who are with you.
49:51Unfortunately,
49:53there is a culture that
49:55takes a lot of rise
49:57and is worrying at the same time.
49:59When we meet
50:01with that loved one,
50:03we stay
50:05using the cell phone.
50:07People
50:09are sometimes
50:11talking to us and we
50:13do not look up.
50:15If the person
50:17is quiet, I have heard
50:19that they say, no, keep talking, keep talking,
50:21that I am listening to you.
50:23No.
50:25If you have the cell phone
50:27in your hand, you are not listening
50:29to the person in front of you.
50:31You are focused
50:33on who you prioritized
50:35to look or read
50:37In this case,
50:39to answer,
50:41then the person
50:43who is in front of you
50:45is being ignored,
50:47is being
50:49to a point,
50:51despised.
50:53So it is necessary,
50:55parents, the whole family
50:57to listen to this segment.
50:59Let's cancel,
51:01let's withdraw
51:03our behaviors,
51:05that framework of values,
51:07the specific behavior
51:09of not
51:11dropping the cell phone,
51:13of not keeping it
51:15in the wallet or leaving it
51:17anywhere else,
51:19at the time of sitting down
51:21to talk to the family,
51:23to the partner, to the friends
51:25face to face.
51:27Nothing or no one can be more
51:29important to you
51:31than that person
51:33in front of you talking to you.
51:35Your family, your mother,
51:37your wife, your children.
51:39No one is.
51:41Prove it to them,
51:43that at the time of talking
51:45you either turn off the cell phone
51:47or keep it and close the zipper,
51:49thus proving
51:51that person is valuable
51:53and important to you.
51:55We continue in
51:57Telematutino 11.