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00:00Portland.
00:06Now, in Japan, a familiar item is gaining popularity.
00:13The Landsell, lined up on the shelves of select shops.
00:20But it's not for children.
00:24Adults buy it as a fashion item.
00:31Last summer, more than 100 people came to the store.
00:38Totally. They've been selling very well for us.
00:41We've been having a lot of interest in the bags.
00:43Someone came in just looking for a backpack,
00:46and they walked by and they saw it in the window,
00:49and they came in and they said,
00:50like, this is the nicest backpack I've ever seen.
00:52It looks really nice.
00:55The reason was that Hollywood's popular actors used the Landsell.
01:01Not just the looks, but the ease of use attracted people.
01:26The Landsell was born in Japan during the Meiji era.
01:31It's made from 150 pieces,
01:34so that you can store a lot of textbooks and stationery.
01:43It requires six years of use,
01:47so it's made by hand.
01:50The beautiful edge of the bag is a technique called kikuyose.
01:55The craftsmen prepare each piece by hand.
02:01The leather on the edge of the Landsell
02:05is prone to fraying and friction,
02:09so we protect it with a thick layer of leather.
02:12It also makes the bag look better.
02:16The more you use the Landsell, the better it tastes.
02:19Some people abroad have been using it for more than 10 years.
02:26It can't be translated into a Western language with just one word.
02:30In Japanese, it's called temahima.
02:33It's a beautiful word.
02:35It has hands and feet.
02:38It's a beautiful word.
02:41In Japanese, it's called temahima.
02:44It's a beautiful word.
02:46It has hands and time.
02:48When we see a Japanese craft or design object,
02:53we perceive time in the care given to the production.
03:00What is design?
03:04From small stationery to home appliances,
03:08cars, and huge buildings,
03:11our world is overflowing with design.
03:16The beauty that comes after ease of use and pursuit of functionality
03:21is called excellent design.
03:25Kintsugi
03:28Now, the world's eyes are drawn to the various designs of Japan.
03:36The traditional technique of connecting a broken vessel with gold.
03:41Kintsugi
03:43A new design is born after restoration.
03:50Kintsugi
03:51Putting broken pieces of pottery together with golden lacquer
03:55to create a stronger, more beautiful whole.
03:58Let's apply this principle to our fractured world.
04:04The Japanese design provides a solution to modern problems.
04:09What is the thing that embodies it?
04:12What is the heart that is embedded in it?
04:15Kintsugi
04:19In the world, there is a great upheaval in Japanese culture.
04:25Manga
04:27Music
04:29Food
04:31Design
04:36Series
04:38New Japanism
04:41What kind of charm is hidden in Japanese culture?
04:48This is a story of Japan that we ourselves have not yet realized.
04:56Kintsugi
05:14Recently, in the field of fashion,
05:17the Japanese design has been a great success.
05:22During the Fashion Week in Paris last January,
05:27a luxury brand honored Japan.
05:37The pieces in the collection included traditional Japanese patterns
05:41with the sashiko embroidery or the katsuri weaving.
05:52Matteo De Rosa
05:55A group of companies that have more than 70 luxury brands
05:59launched a company that searches for world-class craftsmanship.
06:04CEO, Matteo De Rosa.
06:08Now, there are similar products in the field of luxury fashion.
06:12He says that a unique design supported by high craftsmanship is in demand.
06:18Japan caught the eye.
06:48Morioka Emina
06:50Morioka Emina was sent to Japan by De Rosa, the CEO.
06:55She grew up in Paris with her French and Japanese parents.
07:00Looking for excellent craftsmanship in various parts of Japan,
07:04she has visited more than 100 workshops in the past two years.
07:09Morioka Emina
07:11Morioka Emina
07:13Morioka Emina
07:15She has visited more than 100 workshops in the past two years.
07:19It's a kind of a modern treasure hunter.
07:22Not in the Indiana Jones kind of style, but in a modern way to go.
07:29So the road for us is pivotal in order to find the right partner,
07:33to find the right people, the right craft, to find the right product.
07:39Kyotango
07:41Kyotango is the birthplace of kimono.
07:46It is a craftsmanship town that produces 70% of kimono fabric in Japan.
07:52There are more than 700 workshops.
07:58The workshops have been protecting the technique of kimono for 1,300 years.
08:09I use a variety of materials.
08:11You use a variety of materials.
08:12Because you use a variety of materials, you get this kind of gloss.
08:16Yes.
08:17If I move it, the material will shift.
08:21So I move it rather than leave it as it is.
08:25If you move it, it will shift.
08:27Certainly.
08:30Laven-ori, a kind of kimono fabric woven with a shell.
08:38Flowers and birds are placed with a variety of colored shells.
08:43It is said that the expression changes with the amount of light.
08:57The shell is used for laven-ori.
08:59The inside of the shell is shaved to 0.2 mm by hand.
09:08Each shell is pasted on a Japanese paper to draw a pattern.
09:15Delicate and serious handwork creates a unique beauty.
09:29Is this one shell?
09:32Yes.
09:33I cut the shell.
09:39The Japanese paper is cut to the same thinness as the silk thread.
09:48The shell is folded while paying attention not to break it.
10:09Laven-ori, a kind of kimono fabric woven with a shell.
10:13It has a history of 1,300 years and is supported by a high technique.
10:25Mr. Morioka is considering whether he can develop new products
10:30by combining craftsmen from all over the world.
10:39For Japanese people,
10:41there are so many high-tech things around us,
10:45so it's hard to feel the uniqueness.
10:50So I think it's important to find the know-how of great craftsmen and technicians
10:57and find a way to make use of it.
11:00I think I can play my role if I develop it and spread it to the world.
11:09Mr. Matteo De Rosa, the CEO, is paying attention to Japanese denim.
11:21It's a mass-produced product made at a factory,
11:24but he says he can feel the craftsmanship in it.
11:32Because of the process of coloration,
11:35because of the process of weaving and the way you wash,
11:38each of your pair will be different in time,
11:41and that makes it unique.
11:43And that makes it not stable,
11:45which for us is something that is unique.
11:49It gives you excellence in the product.
11:53Ibarashi, Okayama Prefecture
12:01The fabric of the denim is made in Ibarashi, Okayama Prefecture.
12:06Mr. Kuroki, the CEO of a denim company,
12:09said he had something to show us,
12:11so he took us to the back of the factory.
12:14Ibarashi, Okayama Prefecture
12:19There are bubbles.
12:23I walked around here,
12:25went to that rock,
12:27ate sushi and drank a lot.
12:32This water is said to be an important element
12:35that created the Ibarashi denim.
12:39Naturally, it's water.
12:44Before the industrial revolution in the UK,
12:47they used to make jewelry out of watercolors.
12:51Recently, there have been about one, two, three watercolors in this water.
12:57They used them to weave threads or to make rice.
13:08In the Edo period, this area was surrounded by mountains.
13:12They grew noodles and rice,
13:14which can be grown even in small areas,
13:16and started making fabric.
13:22The abundant water from the mountains
13:24was a blessing that was necessary
13:26not only for the cultivation of noodles,
13:29but also for dyeing the threads of the fabric.
13:32Noodles
13:37Noodles made from the top part of the fabric.
13:42They were made with the ingenuity of the weavers
13:45to create simple and varied patterns.
13:53They spread all over the country,
13:56and became a famous product.
13:58This is the background of the current Ibarashi denim.
14:06At present, more than 90% of the Japanese denim fabric
14:09is produced in this area, including Ibarashi.
14:18Mr. Morioka, who is looking for craftsmanship,
14:21comes here regularly.
14:24What do you find attractive about Kurokusa?
14:28I find their attitude towards the production of denim very interesting.
14:33They always protect the essence of denim,
14:37while trying new things.
14:40I find that very interesting.
14:42I think they are developing a very wide range of fabrics.
14:48What is the difference between this company's denim
14:51and the ones made in the U.S. and Europe?
14:58The one running in the factory is a Japanese-made
15:01shuttle weaver called a shuttle weaver.
15:04It was actually made 60 years ago.
15:09This machine is the one that creates
15:12the denim that fascinates Mr. De Rosa.
15:19Shuttle weavers take a lot of work.
15:22Before weaving,
15:24they have to pass the thread through the machine by hand.
15:27It is not only inefficient,
15:29but also requires five times as much time.
15:32However, the quality of the fabric depends on
15:35how much time it takes to pass the thread through the machine.
15:38You can check the quality of the fabric by hand,
15:41while making fine adjustments.
15:49This laborious work
15:51is what makes denim,
15:53which has a different style, possible.
15:59The production of denim began in this area
16:02some time after World War II.
16:06In the afternoon,
16:08the denim factory in the village was in full swing.
16:13In the 1970s,
16:15the company stopped using shuttle weavers
16:18and introduced new machines
16:20to cut down on mass production.
16:23However, the boom did not last 10 years.
16:28When the boom disappeared,
16:30the fabric did not sell well.
16:34Some people gave up,
16:37but we did not give up.
16:40We made a lot of efforts
16:43to make fabric that could sell
16:46by using various techniques,
16:49such as color and thread.
16:53The shuttle weaver gave us hope.
16:59With a shuttle weaver,
17:02we could make a fabric that could not be made by mass production.
17:11We let go of it once,
17:14but we gathered as much as we could.
17:18We invited workers from the shuttle weavers
17:21to the factory and gave them the technology.
17:28I had a teacher,
17:30an 80-year-old man,
17:32and I followed him around
17:35and learned how to make it.
17:40Denim, made with old shuttle weavers,
17:43gradually became a fashion item.
17:55The company highly appreciated its quality
17:58and signed a partnership agreement two years ago.
18:14Mr. Morioka is developing a new product
18:17with Denim.
18:23It's a little soft.
18:26The vertical side is a cone.
18:29It's soft, isn't it?
18:32For Mr. Kuroki of Denim,
18:35meeting Mr. Morioka
18:38is a chance to develop new ideas.
18:44I'm not supposed to show you this,
18:47but I'll show you a little.
18:50This is it.
18:53It's a golden thread.
18:56It's made of gold leaf.
18:59It's the technique of the Westerners in Kyoto.
19:02It must be beautiful.
19:05The vertical side is blue,
19:08and the horizontal side is gold.
19:12I'll come and see it
19:15as soon as I have the material.
19:18Thank you very much.
19:21I'll let you know as soon as I have it.
19:25M+, a Hong Kong museum
19:27that collects designs from all over the world,
19:32exhibits a wide variety of designs,
19:35including furniture and fashion.
19:39Here are many designs
19:42that have enriched people's lives.
19:50One of the features of Japanese design
19:53is that craftsmen's handiwork
19:56plays an important role.
20:00One of the charms of Japanese design
20:03is that it's polite
20:06and has a sense of responsibility.
20:09Even industrial products
20:12don't have a mechanical coldness.
20:15It's hard to imagine
20:18a factory worker working hard
20:21to make something like this.
20:24Even if it's a machine,
20:27it's hard to feel like it's a job.
20:31Working with one's hands
20:34has long been valued in Japan.
20:37Traditional forms of play
20:40that were cultivated from that
20:43are now being used in cutting-edge research.
20:47One such form is origami.
20:50Manan Ariya, Stanford University
20:53He's working on a space probe.
20:56He uses Japanese origami
20:59when he's designing a space probe.
21:20This is a great way to unfold to be flat.
21:23And that makes it stiff
21:26and able to sustain its own weight.
21:29And it also means it's really easy
21:32for it to refold itself.
21:38Ariya made a prototype
21:41based on the design he had in mind.
21:44The other nice thing about origami, one of the great advantages is that when you fold
22:08paper, the discovery process of the fold pattern, it's very tactile.
22:17It's almost as if the paper is telling you how it wants to fold, without tearing, without
22:22ripping.
22:23You know, most engineers are used to working on computers, creating designs, whereas origami
22:28engineering allows us to create things that look like the final product out of paper.
22:36What Mr. Ariya is thinking about is a system that opens up to a diameter of 40 meters
22:41when the device is folded into small pieces and reaches outer space.
22:46This huge device will cut through the unnecessary light in space and observe the planet.
22:54It's a grand mission to find and bring out the stars where life exists.
23:00This is a great example of NASA's project.
23:12Origami.
23:14The Japanese way of playing is to fold a square piece of paper and then fold it again.
23:19It's a fun way of playing.
23:23The process of creating shapes while traveling between two-dimensional and three-dimensional
23:28worlds is a free-spirited way of thinking, which deepens your thinking.
23:32Origami.
23:42We usually play with origami as a game and as a way of having fun.
23:47Origami is thought of as a thing for children.
23:50To see how engineers, mathematicians, researchers, researchers spend hours studying origami
23:59so that it can become a form only through heat is a revolution of thought
24:06that will lead to very interesting developments in the future.
24:14Origami is also revolutionizing the world of fashion.
24:21In the spring of 2023, a world-class design exhibition was held in Milan, Italy.
24:30Japanese jackets were the talk of the town.
24:42It was a design inspired by origami.
24:46This is a design.
24:52When a piece of flat fabric touches steam, it naturally shrinks and rises to three dimensions.
25:00The shape of the sleeves and torso is born, and the jacket is created in a blink of an eye.
25:09Magic clothes create shapes like origami, even though they are not cut or sewn together.
25:29This revolutionary design changed the concept of clothing from the ground up.
25:43In ordinary clothing, the fabric is cut to fit the shape of the body and sewn together.
25:51The fabric is cut to fit the shape of the body and sewn together.
26:00Therefore, it is necessary to make several sizes, such as S, M, and L, to fit the shape of the body.
26:08When a large number of remaining sizes were produced, disposal was unavoidable.
26:17However, this clothing can be worn by anyone, regardless of gender.
26:24The design was created by the Japanese designer Yoshiyuki Miyamae.
26:36The team's newcomer has been instructed to make origami as long as possible, two years after joining the company.
26:43He is trying to come up with a completely new relationship between clothing and the body.
26:50We are looking for a new way to make origami.
26:57We are looking for a new way to make origami.
27:04We are looking for a new way to make origami.
27:10I really want to be the only professional in this field.
27:17I want to be the only professional in this field.
27:25I want to be the only professional in this field.
27:32If we may try that.
27:35Miyamae wants to deliver a design that everyone in the world can enjoy in the same way, not just a limited number of people.
27:50Miyamae wants to deliver a design that everyone in the world can enjoy in the same way, not just a limited number of people.
27:58Miyamae wants to deliver a design that everyone in the world can enjoy in the same way, not just a limited number of people.
28:08Miyamae wants to deliver a design that everyone in the world can enjoy in the same way, not just a limited number of people.
28:18Miyamae wants to deliver a design that everyone in the world can enjoy in the same way, not just a limited number of people.
28:25We drove for about three hours from the center area of Shandong Province in China to a small mountain village in the countryside.
28:35We drove for about three hours from the center area of Shandong Province in China to a small mountain village in the countryside.
28:46It is a reservoir art museum with a view of the whole lake.
28:57The ground of the museum is almost the same as the water of the lake outside.
29:02In some places, the lake water is also introduced into the building.
29:06The water in the city and the connection with the outside world, including the whole feeling of transparency, I think it is very good.
29:13There is a kind of combination of architecture and nature.
29:18There is a kind of combination of architecture and nature.
29:25The architecture is a combination of artificial objects and the surrounding landscape.
29:30Mr. Kuan Sen, who studies the architecture of the world, says that this figure is a feature of Japanese design along with handwork.
29:44There are buildings, not just as isolated, stand-alone structures, but in terms of something that sits on land or perhaps water and is situated in a much larger universe.
30:03And that was a remarkable idea that in many ways had not been anticipated in the West, but of course made enormous sense.
30:16The water museum was designed by architect Junya Ishigami.
30:21Mr. Ishigami was one of the world's architects who wanted to create a cultural place for local developers.
30:39The roof is like a wave, and it is like getting used to the scenery of the distant mountains.
30:49In Japan, there is a way of thinking like Satoyama.
30:54By creating a natural environment where human blood flows, I think that the place where humans live will be enriched.
31:09The water museum is actually based on a traditional Japanese house.
31:16When you open the window, there is a connection with the garden.
31:20There is an idea of trying to live with the wind.
31:26When I look back at the environment and memories that I have grown up with,
31:35for example, in the scenery of my grandfather's house,
31:40there is a garden that I can see from now on, and there is a courtyard.
31:45There is a place where a series of spaces are remembered as a series of scenery from the outside world.
31:54It's like making a box.
31:58I think of it as a building with the image of creating a gentle place in the midst of harsh nature.
32:15I think of it as a building with the image of creating a gentle place in the midst of harsh nature.
32:31The design of Japan has been woven with various handwork.
32:40It was done by many unknown craftsmen.
32:55Even if there are only a few people who use it,
32:58even if they don't get a lot of praise,
33:02they have continued to make things that are used in everyday life.
33:07It is this tradition that supports the design of Japan that the world is now paying attention to.
33:19The great role played there was the humanistic movement of the ideologists Yanagi and Muneyoshi.
33:27They advocated the value of handwork, which is declining in various places in the era of mass production.
33:34In the era when no one recognized the cultural value and aesthetic value of handcrafts made by unknown craftsmen,
33:50handcrafts were born naturally from the daily hard work of unknown craftsmen.
34:06Hita City, Oita Prefecture, where handcrafts born in the Edo period are still protected.
34:13Sarayama District, where the old family lives, has been making baked goods called ontayaki.
34:26It is said that the beginning was that the farmers made vessels for everyday use in the local soil.
34:32It is said that the farmers made vessels for everyday use in the local soil.
34:39Handcrafts made by the family, each family inherited their own handcrafts.
34:47There is no vivid paint, and no one can draw a gorgeous picture.
34:53Even so, they devised with familiar tools such as a brush and a comb to entertain the user.
35:02Ontayaki is now shipped all over the world, including the United States, the United Kingdom, and Italy.
35:14Ontayaki is now shipped all over the world, including the United States, the United Kingdom, and Italy.
35:23We see through objects of great banality,
35:29this concern, and this is what the Mingei movement found,
35:35this concern to make very beautiful, even for an object that will be a very common use for a peasant or a fisherman.
35:47Through even very sober objects like this, we can sometimes have very beautiful objects.
35:54And I think this is one of the things that characterizes Japan a lot.
35:59Tradition brought by the nameless craftsmen living all over Japan.
36:07The techniques born from there are now capturing the hearts of the world.
36:16Many French people are passionate about the Japanese art of Kintsugi.
36:26Kintsugi is a traditional technique that repairs broken dishes with lacquer and gold.
36:39Nearly 80 people attend this workshop every month.
36:46Each brings his cup or other broken dishes to repair on site.
36:50The process takes more than a month.
36:55I saw my father do it once during Covid, and it impressed me.
37:01In fact, I tried to glue it with superglue, but it didn't work.
37:05And then my husband offered me this course, because I like everything that is manual activity, and I found it cool.
37:16I was happy to have kept it, and not to have thrown it away.
37:24In the global recycling boom, people are aware of the importance of using things.
37:39Kintsugi is said to have been born during the Muromachi period to repair bowls.
37:45Without throwing away broken bowls, they are connected by lacquer and gold.
37:54Without hiding the damage, they make it stand out.
37:58That's where I felt the importance.
38:02What's interesting about this approach to Kintsugi is that even if two identical bowls are broken,
38:10they are never broken in the same way.
38:11They are never repaired in the same way.
38:14They become unique pieces, all the more so even if they were serial objects.
38:19This exemplarity of making these objects unique and adding this preciousness.
38:34Kintsugi is booming in the United States as well.
38:41This is worth it. Thank you for coming back.
38:44Of course. Thank you for having me.
38:46This popular Kintsugi workshop in New York receives a constant stream of repair requests.
38:53This, I think, will look beautiful once you fix it.
38:58Wow.
39:00Is it brass, right?
39:02The bowl this man brought in was a family treasure, but it wasn't just to repair it.
39:11I have a nephew. He got hurt. He fell and he had fractured.
39:16I showed him Kintsugi. I said, don't worry.
39:19It's like you're going to be even more special after they fix you up.
39:25More than 300 bowls are waiting to be repaired in the workshop shelves.
39:31Not only in the United States, but also in Europe and Asia.
39:38It's really popular.
39:39I get a lot of inquiries about my craft.
39:44Most people know what Kintsugi is.
39:49People of all ages come to this workshop carrying broken objects.
39:55It's so big.
39:56It's so huge.
40:01Wrap here.
40:03Otherwise, line here.
40:05Otherwise, that happens.
40:19The reason you need to sand down here
40:22is because the surface is so smooth, right?
40:26So, you wish it doesn't stick on the smooth surface.
40:30In the process of repairing a broken bowl, a peaceful time flows by.
40:42There was someone who met Kintsugi and began to see life in a positive light.
40:48Hi.
40:50How are you? Come in.
40:51Lorrie Constant-Pross.
40:53How are you?
40:54Good. How are you?
40:58Five years ago, her husband, Panos, died of COVID-19.
41:05Kintsugi repaired her husband's favorite coffee cup.
41:12It was a gift from her son.
41:16My son, who is in Greece now, gave this to me as a gift.
41:22Which is Kintsugi.
41:23I didn't know about Kintsugi before.
41:26And with a beautiful card that said,
41:29when we break and fall apart,
41:33we can come back together and things can be more beautiful.
41:37Even if it's broken, if you repair it, it becomes beautiful.
41:43Kintsugi's spirit fascinated her.
41:45She went to the workshop and repaired her husband's broken coffee cup by herself.
42:15It is strong and makes you very strong.
42:19It makes you, as you get through grief, strong,
42:23because you know you can move on and you have resilience.
42:28Just that I love her.
42:30I love you.
42:32She's a good daughter.
42:34Very good. I have good kids.
42:37Japanese design that fascinates the world.
42:40Kintsugi.
42:42The craft that created it is now in danger.
42:48Ms. Emina Morioka is looking for Japanese craftsmanship.
42:54She headed to a village in the northern part of Okinawa.
43:03She is making a fabric called bashofu.
43:07It's a light, light-feeling fabric.
43:11It was once worn by nobles and commoners.
43:20Bashofu's material is Itoba-sho, which was once in Okinawa.
43:36As there was limited material to make clothes,
43:39the nobles came up with ideas and started making threads from this plant.
43:54The workshop is called Uuumi.
43:57This is bashofu.
44:02Threads are made by hand.
44:04The thickness of the threads is measured.
44:06It's a delicate craft.
44:17There are about 40 craftsmen who make bashofu.
44:21But the number is declining year after year.
44:28This is a piece I brought from December 6, 1924.
44:33I lost it last week.
44:42I'm about to retire.
44:46I'm old and my eyes are bad.
44:50I've decided to retire when I'm 85.
44:57I'm going to retire this year.
45:05Every time Morioka visits a workshop,
45:09she realizes that it's the perfect time to connect traditional Japanese designs.
45:20Traditional crafts are protected all over Japan.
45:27The number of craftsmen is declining year after year.
45:30In the past 20 years, the number has decreased to half.
45:44The world is now in the age of STGs.
45:49Natural fiber is gaining attention again.
45:54I'd like to find the potential that I hadn't realized before
46:01and make use of it.
46:12The design of Japan opens up the future.
46:16Young people all over the world are starting to move.
46:20The Origami Lab at Tokyo University.
46:27Students from China and Korea are gathering here
46:31to learn the theory of how origami can be developed.
46:36I chose the University of Tokyo to gain some insights
46:44and get some inspirations to refine my thesis.
46:54This structure was designed by an international student.
47:02It's designed to be built in no time.
47:05It's being considered whether it can be used as a temporary home for the disaster victims.
47:15If you use a single origami tube, it will collapse.
47:20But if you combine these two,
47:24you get a structure that is 100 times stronger than a single one.
47:29This is a demonstration of the structure.
47:35I'm doing it.
47:40The design of Japan has been nurtured by abundant food and handicrafts.
47:46Now, a new idea has been born after meeting the world.
48:00New Japanism
48:03It's a new era of culture that resonates with the world.
48:10What kind of landscape will it show us?
48:32The Origami Lab at Tokyo University
48:37The Origami Lab at Tokyo University
48:46A new era of culture that resonates with the world
48:53The Origami Lab at Tokyo University
48:56In this NHK special, President Trump is trying to get his money back one by one.
49:00Where is he aiming at?
49:02We interview the key person of the government.
49:04How are Japanese companies going to deal with the change in the world economy?
49:11The Butterfly Effect of the Century of Video.
49:14East Germany, a country that disappeared in 1941.
49:17How did people live in the dark, where the child is the parent and the wife is the husband?
49:26NHK's Spring Recommendations.
49:29Saturday, April 5th at 6.05pm.
49:32It's the Tokoro incident.
49:33Are temples and shrines being sold?
49:35We investigate the truth.
49:38Next, at 7.30pm.
49:40The new series of Bratamori.
49:42A journey to Ise Jingu.
49:45And at 8pm.
49:46New Project X.
49:48The story of the Japanese's challenge and revolution.
49:52Saturday night on NHK.