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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 6

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00:00Be good for Daddy, please, OK?
00:03He's so awake right now, huh?
00:05He knows it's party time.
00:06It's a party.
00:08Well, Jen hasn't been responding to me.
00:11So I'm just going to head over there and see if you can see.
00:13Yeah, I'm just going to knock on the door.
00:15OK.
00:16Macy's invited all of the girls to go support her
00:19for this pickleball tournament that she's hosting
00:20in Scottsdale, Arizona.
00:22Jen and I were going to ride to the airport together.
00:25And this morning, she's completely MIA.
00:29Technically, I'm not back in mom talk.
00:32But I'm so grateful that Macy invited me on this trip
00:35because it's going to give me the chance to rekindle
00:38and hopefully mend some relationships that
00:40really need mending.
00:43Jen, how are you?
00:46Can I come in?
00:47Yeah.
00:48OK.
00:49Oh, gosh.
00:56Oh, gosh.
00:58It looks like fun.
00:59Looks like there's a party here.
01:03This is mostly Zach.
01:05This is Zach trying to convince me.
01:07What, to go?
01:09No, to just eat.
01:13I'm so confused.
01:14When we were talking yesterday, you seemed like everything
01:16was OK.
01:17I think it's just prenatal depression
01:23and a combination of just so many things
01:26I can't even figure out.
01:28Yeah.
01:29I think I first started feeling depressed
01:33when I realized what needed to change in my life
01:36and in my marriage.
01:37But it wasn't until after I found out I was pregnant
01:41that I truly hit rock bottom.
01:44Just some things happened yesterday.
01:48What?
01:48What happened?
01:50I don't even know what happened yesterday.
01:52Oh, Jen.
01:55Oh, my god.
02:02I don't even want to talk about this right now.
02:04You don't have to.
02:06We're just going to try to figure this out.
02:10It's just not OK.
02:12Zach and I were driving in the car.
02:19And I don't know what got into me.
02:23But I just had a thought that I don't want to be here anymore.
02:38I think I just need to take care of myself and my body
02:43so I can be able to take care of this baby
02:45and take care of my kids.
02:48And you're exactly right.
02:51I never thought I would get to this point.
02:58And I don't want anyone to think of me any different.
03:04I feel bad that you're going on the trip.
03:07And I feel bad I can't be there.
03:10Don't feel bad.
03:12Don't feel bad.
03:12You take care of yourself first.
03:14That's the priority, always, no matter what.
03:18So when somebody asks me, like, hey, why is Jen not here?
03:21Yeah.
03:22What do you want me to say?
03:27Yeah, I would just tell them that I'm pregnant and sick.
03:30OK.
03:31Because Zach's not lying.
03:33That is part of what's going on.
03:35Yeah.
03:36So I'm worried that you're going to miss your flight.
03:39You're fine.
03:40I don't know how comfortable I feel leaving
03:41without Zach being here.
03:44Let me clean up some of this food.
03:46I'm sad Jen's not going to be able to come to Scottsdale
03:49with all of us, because it's going to feel like a part of
03:51mom talk is missing.
03:52But I think she's making the right decision to focus
03:56and prioritize her mental health.
03:58I don't really know what I can do,
03:59but what I'm going to try and do is just cheer her up.
04:04Oh my gosh, stop.
04:05OK.
04:07Stop.
04:09Well, I guess the only thing that has stopped is me.
04:14You're kidding me.
04:16Oh my god, Jen, no.
04:47Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
04:52Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
04:57Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
05:00Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
05:03Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
05:06Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
05:09Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
05:12Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen,
05:15Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen.
05:16Ooh I could get used to traveling like this.
05:18Insert we think it all.
05:19Woo.
05:21Yeah.
05:22Maple Leafs.
05:23Woo!
05:26Stripper pole!
05:29Woo hoo!
05:31Bye!
05:32Bye!
05:32I've never been on a stripper pole!
05:34Oh, thank you!
05:35Nice to meet you.
05:36Mom talk.
05:37I didn't even see that.
05:38Oh, that's cute.
05:39Mom talks, girls trips.
05:41I mean, it could go one or two ways.
05:43Sometimes it's connecting, sometimes it's disconnecting.
05:46But I'm really hoping me going on this trip
05:48will be a huge turning point with me
05:51and the relationship as a whole and mom talk.
05:53Everyone has to take one go, because it's actually really fun.
05:56Yeah, we!
05:57Woo!
05:58Woo!
05:59I thought this was going to be a little life-saving.
06:01Oh, my God!
06:02Thank you!
06:04Is your coochie healed?
06:05No.
06:06This is not a good idea.
06:07No!
06:08No, you literally could, like, bleed out, dude.
06:10What?
06:11Yes!
06:12No, I don't have stitches.
06:13No, but you're healing on the inside.
06:15Be careful.
06:16All right.
06:17Hey, where's Jen?
06:18What's happening?
06:19What's going on with that?
06:20You guys are her besties, so...
06:21Yeah, no, she's really sick.
06:22Jen not wanting to come to Scottsdale,
06:24I genuinely believe she's scared to face me and Jesse specifically.
06:29I think she's just being a coward.
06:32Check your phone if it wasn't obvious enough.
06:34No, my favorite was when you were, like,
06:38in the airport for, like, five seconds.
06:39You were like, hi, babe, I miss you.
06:41And I was like, didn't he just drop you off?
06:43No, he didn't.
06:44I had to go a whole car ride without him.
06:46Oh, OK.
06:47See, but here's the thing.
06:48We're together a lot throughout the day,
06:49but we also have our different routines.
06:51Like, he'll go to the gym for a couple hours,
06:53he goes and works and stuff.
06:54But, like, we're always in contact.
06:56Like, we never run out of things to talk about.
06:58I did hear that Brett did sleep with someone
07:01in Macy's Sinner Sunday confession box,
07:04but it's never been confirmed.
07:06I think, to me, maybe she is projecting, like,
07:09this perfect relationship.
07:10I've seen it a lot here, especially in Utah.
07:12They want everyone to think that they have, like,
07:14this perfect family and whatever.
07:16It's overcompensation for something,
07:17and I don't know what.
07:18But think about it when you had, like, best friends growing up.
07:20Like, you guys were, like, attached at the hip.
07:23That's kind of how Brett and I are.
07:26OK, ready?
07:27Yes.
07:28Woo!
07:29Woo!
07:30Let's do it!
07:31Woo!
07:38I got asked to host the USA Pickleball
07:40Celebrity Tournament in Arizona, and I'm so excited.
07:43I have a lot planned for this trip.
07:44I hope there are enough distractions
07:46to where the girls can just avoid the usual drama
07:49and love one another.
07:52Let's do this, girls.
07:53Look!
07:54It's fancy.
07:55My ass is asleep.
07:57Viva!
07:58Scott's down!
07:59Scott's down!
08:01We arrived to the villa, and it is absolutely gorgeous.
08:09It has a pool and a hot tub and a big open living room.
08:13So if we're going to fight this weekend,
08:14at least leave a mansion to do it in.
08:16Hi!
08:17Hi.
08:18Thanks for hugging me.
08:19My other friends just went straight to you.
08:22This is nice.
08:23Taylor!
08:24What?
08:25Do you want to be in this room with me?
08:27Look, this can be your bed, Tay.
08:29You can have your own bed.
08:30I don't mind sleeping on the bunk bed.
08:32No, you're postpartum.
08:33No, I don't.
08:34I really don't mind it.
08:35I don't either.
08:36No, I'm going to sleep on the bunk bed.
08:37I honestly will sleep wherever you guys.
08:38Where'd the girls go?
08:39Grape is my favorite one.
08:40Where'd the saints go?
08:41There's the pickleball queen.
08:44There she is.
08:45I'm wondering where you whores were.
08:47You whores.
08:48This is the party room.
08:50It seems like it.
08:51It is going to be.
08:52Not at all.
08:53Yes, question of the day.
08:54Where is Jen?
08:55Well, she's not here.
08:56Well, yeah.
08:57She's back at work.
08:58Where is she?
08:59Where is she and why?
09:00She is pregnant.
09:05I'm shocked to hear that Jen's pregnant.
09:07I don't think it's the ideal time to have a baby
09:09because her and Zach have been struggling.
09:11It is making sense that she's been a little off,
09:14but it doesn't excuse the behavior
09:16and treating your friends badly.
09:18No, I was shocked too.
09:19I don't think it was planned.
09:20It never is planned, but she hasn't like.
09:22They don't protect at all.
09:23So I feel like if you're not protecting, you're planning.
09:25What is Zach thinking with like all the chaos
09:27that's been happening?
09:28A band-aid baby.
09:29Yay.
09:30What?
09:31The babies don't band-aid anything.
09:34I am so shocked.
09:35All of us have been pregnant.
09:37All of us have experienced modes of depression
09:39and I'm just feeling like there's no relatability
09:41going on right now.
09:42Just like harping on her for not coming on this trip.
09:45And right now there needs to be more understanding.
09:49Should we go?
09:50Yeah.
09:51Let's get ready.
09:52Okay.
09:53Half of my suitcase is shoes, by the way.
09:54I feel like I smell like a freaking onion.
09:57I don't think you do.
09:58I think I do.
10:01Yeah.
10:02Ooh.
10:03I walked right back out.
10:04Sweet.
10:05I love poppy.
10:06I am obsessed with this.
10:07I'm going with this bad boy.
10:08Gosh.
10:09Ooh.
10:10I love it.
10:11Wait, this is so cute.
10:12Yeah, cute.
10:13They have a little menu right here.
10:14Serve and sip.
10:15The classic dirty pop.
10:16So which one's that one?
10:17This one?
10:18This one.
10:19This one.
10:20Wait, yum.
10:21Is it good?
10:22Yeah.
10:24Okay.
10:25So cute.
10:26Ooh.
10:27They actually have name tags.
10:33I'm excited.
10:34It looks so good.
10:35Very cute, Jay.
10:36All right, who's saying the prayer?
10:37Okay, prayer, guys.
10:38Whitney.
10:39Okay, ready?
10:40Dear Heavenly Father, we're so grateful for this day
10:43and to be able to be together as a Mom Talk family.
10:49Please bless this food and bless that we can clear the air tonight
10:53and just hopefully get even closer than we are now.
10:56And we say this in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
10:58Amen.
10:59You know that ain't gonna happen.
11:02Whitney's prayer is hilarious.
11:04Another moment of Whitney's delusion.
11:06She's not a part of Mom Talk, but if she wants to ask for some help
11:10from the man himself, she can go right ahead.
11:14With all of the lies and scrutiny going on within Mom Talk lately,
11:17I think I have just the device to get us back on track.
11:20The truth box is back.
11:21I think it's the perfect way to get everything out in the open.
11:24We all agreed that it was a shit show last time,
11:26but they shouldn't be surprised that I'm doing this
11:29because I love instigating drama.
11:31All right, you guys, I have a surprise.
11:33Another truth box.
11:35I'm so excited.
11:36I'm so excited.
11:37I'm so excited.
11:38I'm so excited.
11:39I'm so excited.
11:40I'm so excited.
11:41I'm so excited.
11:42I have a surprise.
11:43Another truth box.
11:44Dear God.
11:46Jessie brings out the infamous golden box, the truth box,
11:50as if we didn't learn our lesson the first time.
11:53I feel like I'm the only one that has a brain anymore, truly.
11:57I mean, I honestly thought Jen was gonna be here,
11:59and I have some things to ask her that I want truths about.
12:01I actually think that with this group, like, being together,
12:04this could be interesting.
12:05So think of some ideas for three, and then we'll do it after.
12:10Jessie decided it would be a brilliant idea
12:12to bring another truth box onto this girls' trip,
12:15hopefully because the one person that I feel like a lot of people
12:17wanted to ask questions to, Jen, isn't here.
12:21Maybe it'll go better, but I doubt it.
12:23Okay, we should go get our jammies on, though.
12:25Yeah, I'm just too tired.
12:27Yeah, because I want to, like, get comfortable before we...
12:29I can't find it.
12:31Oh, my God.
12:33Oh, God.
12:34Tell the tables have turned.
12:36Yeah.
12:37So here we are for the truth box.
12:38Cute.
12:39Here comes the sinners.
12:40Here comes the sinners.
12:43All right, you guys, are you ready?
12:44God, no.
12:46I'm really trying to be present during this girls' trip right now,
12:48but I just can't get Jen off of my mind.
12:51I've just been texting her here and there,
12:53just checking in to make sure she's okay.
12:56All right.
12:57Here we go.
12:59Your first one, how do you feel?
13:01Horrible.
13:02Get me out of here.
13:03Don't lie, you're excited.
13:05So excited.
13:06Jessie, is Jordan's dick really tiny like Jen said?
13:11Okay, I'm going to prove this once and for all.
13:13So...
13:15No, look, this isn't inappropriate, don't worry.
13:18All of the girls had heard Jen's depiction of Jordan's small dick,
13:22so I gave Jordan a little handy,
13:24and we got the ruler out, took a photo.
13:27No, I don't want to see it.
13:29I have to, I have to.
13:31It's blurred out, it's blurred out.
13:33You don't want us to see anything.
13:35No.
13:36Eight inches.
13:38Right there.
13:39Jessie, that's not fucking blurred out.
13:41You can see the damn tip.
13:42Amen, amen.
13:45Whitney.
13:46Lovely.
13:47Do you actually care about the friendships in this room,
13:49or do you care more about how the public perceives you?
13:52I totally get in the past how it would come across like I don't care,
13:55and I'm trying to work on that to make it seem like I do,
13:59because I really do.
14:00Make it seem like you do, or you do?
14:03That's what I just said, because I really do.
14:05I'm acting really hard to care about these friendships.
14:07To make it apparent that you care.
14:09Yes, thank you.
14:10Yes.
14:11Demi, did you know that Macy received an anonymous confession that said,
14:17in quotes,
14:18I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away.
14:21Holy shit.
14:25Okay.
14:32Demi, did you know that Macy received an anonymous confession that said,
14:39I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away.
14:42Holy shit.
14:44We've been together literally, or we've been apart I think five days,
14:47our whole marriage.
14:48Holy shit.
14:49And we are together constantly.
14:50Yeah.
14:51If it did happen, it would be like, okay, sorry you chose that.
14:54I think you always find out.
14:56The truth always comes around.
14:57It does.
14:58It does, unfortunately.
14:59I don't know who wrote on the card that there was a rumor that Brett cheated.
15:02My guess is that they're trying to stir the pot.
15:04And my better guess is that it's someone who's unhappy in their own relationship.
15:09I'm not biting.
15:10And there's no need to even discuss this.
15:12It's silly.
15:13And it's not true.
15:15Oh, Jessie.
15:16Were you really kissing Marciano at TomTom publicly?
15:19Yes.
15:20Just kidding.
15:21Who is Marciano?
15:22He's the one that's from Villa.
15:23He's from Villa in Italy.
15:24The guy that likes Demi in Italy.
15:26So we all had a friendship.
15:27That's the thing.
15:28We actually all had fun together.
15:29I'm asked about a rumor that I kissed Marciano in TomTom, which is a bar in L.A., publicly.
15:35My first reaction was, if I'm going to cheat, I'm not going to do it publicly since that can easily be found out.
15:40So we all went out that night, and we got stopped by so many people at TomTom and Sir.
15:44And people kept coming up to us and things like that.
15:46And then literally a couple days later, there were rumors online that we were making out at TomTom.
15:50And I was like, what?
15:52Damn.
15:53Maybe they just thought I was Demi because there were drama with him and her anyway.
15:56And people get us mixed up.
15:57But no, it did not happen.
15:59Also, if I was dumb enough to do that, I wouldn't do it in public.
16:02The first time I heard about that whole situation, I didn't believe it for a second.
16:06But I was just kind of messing with Jesse and reached out and was like, oh, when were you guys going to tell me about this rendezvous?
16:12And just kind of joking around, knowing that nothing happened.
16:15I didn't even see it online.
16:17Oh, well, that's good.
16:18This is how the rumor mill works.
16:19It's just silly to me.
16:21Next question.
16:22OK.
16:23I got one about me, and this is so funny.
16:25Jesse, are you worried Demi was willing to take a bigger contract, even if it meant you potentially being dropped from the show?
16:32We can't run away from this.
16:33I know.
16:34OK, here we are.
16:35Demi and I did have a falling out a couple of months ago.
16:38It really rocked our friendship.
16:40We had a little disagreement about money.
16:42Demi basically was willing for Jesse to be off the show if she can kind of get paid more.
16:47Jesse comes out and says, actually, I'm not going to walk.
16:50So you can walk to me, but I'm not.
16:52For me, I just said, in my head, I just don't want money to come between all of us.
16:55And I know that I was, like, on another way of thinking.
16:58Demi gets on a whole other phone call with Mom Talk.
17:00Demi's like, yeah, fuck Jesse at this point.
17:02Like, let's push her to the side.
17:04She was talking mad shit.
17:06But I also know I'm in a situation that's different than everyone.
17:08I think if I was a millionaire, I wouldn't care either.
17:10Yeah, same.
17:12Jesse, you know, sits on an empire of this hair business and does really well financially.
17:18So it felt a little selfish to me.
17:20Emotions were high, and I understood that, like, she felt that way.
17:23And I also don't think, and I could be wrong, but it was like her saying,
17:27specifically kick Jesse off and just give me a higher paycheck.
17:30You know?
17:31No, she said that.
17:32I'm kidding.
17:33She did say that.
17:34Demi was willing to let Jesse go off the show for more money.
17:39It gave me a bad taste in my mouth, given that's her best friend.
17:43I do think Jesse is very forgiving to Demi.
17:47And I can't quite understand why.
17:51Whitney, do you still not regret not going to Macy's Baby Mama launch?
17:58I feel like if I didn't make the mistake, I wouldn't have known how to make things right.
18:02Did you regret it or do you not?
18:04That's what it said.
18:06Is it a yes or no?
18:07I'm saying no, because I'm saying if I didn't make the mistake,
18:10I wouldn't have known how to make it right.
18:13I just feel like I would say I regret it, but wish I handled it differently.
18:17I get that.
18:19Hearing that Whitney still doesn't regret coming to my Baby Mama event actually has me shocked,
18:23because I feel like I've done a lot to try to get her back into mom talk,
18:26to bring her on the group.
18:27I mean, I didn't even have to invite her on this Arizona trip,
18:30but I did because I'm trying to be a good friend.
18:32And so it feels like she doesn't care about what she did to hurt me.
18:36Okay.
18:37Oh, Mikayla.
18:40Do you ever see you and Whitney working things out?
18:43I do not.
18:47Forgiveness may be godly, but I feel like so is sticking up for yourself,
18:51especially when someone has had a million chances.
18:53I feel like I've reached the tipping point of putting up with people's shit.
18:57I'm trying to protect mom talk and my own peace.
19:00I said I'm fine to be cordial, but I don't, I mean, that's us working it out.
19:04Fair.
19:05All right.
19:06Guys, we made it through.
19:07Yeah.
19:08We done?
19:09We did it.
19:10I'm thinking, wow.
19:14I need it now.
19:17Okay, you guys.
19:18I saw a girl on TikTok who said she was in the ER about to get a surgery
19:21because she said she got jackhammered too hard
19:23and it twisted her ovary or something.
19:25Twisted.
19:26Wow.
19:27Wow.
19:28Jackhammered?
19:29It's where they're like, bam, bam, bam, bam.
19:30But it's also a position.
19:32What's the position?
19:33I thought it, wasn't it the leg up one?
19:35How uncomfortable.
19:37Let me get you on the big end.
19:39I want to have a conversation with Macy because I thought we were good,
19:42but with how Macy reacted during truth box,
19:46maybe I don't know where we stand.
19:49Ooh.
19:51It ain't crispy enough yet.
19:52Yummy, yummy.
19:53I'm flipping it and we're putting her back in.
19:58How are you?
19:59Fine.
20:00How are you?
20:01I wanted to talk to you about last night, the question that was asked.
20:06I was shocked by your reaction to it.
20:08I was like, oh, so she still is holding this grudge against me.
20:12It's not a grudge.
20:13It's more just like the guard, my guard is still up.
20:15Like, do you see where I'm coming from when I say I wasn't in the mental place?
20:20You can still regret something.
20:21How can I regret that if I was in that space?
20:24You can be like, oh, I regret that I wasn't there.
20:26For me, a regret is like, no, I intentionally did this,
20:29so I'm going to go and hurt this person.
20:32No, I don't think that's what regret is.
20:34Really, are we getting into semantics here?
20:36Don't act like you don't know what the word regret means.
20:38It's literally in the dictionary.
20:40Like, how is she still not getting it?
20:42I don't understand.
20:43Nobody wanted me there.
20:44I didn't.
20:45You, not the rest of the women.
20:47I know, but the night was about me.
20:49You didn't have to be with them.
20:50I understand that, but what do you think would have happened if I went?
20:53You could have shut up, said hi to me, and left.
20:55Not even talk to any of them, not said one word.
20:57Like, that's what it meant to me.
20:58You're right, and you know what?
20:59You're right.
21:00When he's like raising his voice, I'm like, I feel like it's a true character that's coming out.
21:04When I was literally in the darkest space of my life, my son's father just died.
21:08I was a maid of honor in two weddings.
21:11And so, it's just hard because I feel like I always show up for my friends,
21:19even when I'm in the darkest, like, trenches in my life.
21:21And then it almost seems like you want to be right more than, like, validating how I feel.
21:26I'm sorry that comes across that way.
21:28I'm not trying to be stubborn.
21:29Every time we have this conversation, I get more confused every single time.
21:33Like, I don't know what else to do at this point.
21:35Do you feel like the way that you've felt about me or not being able to move past this
21:40is because of the way that Michaela talks about me?
21:43I've always been someone in the middle, and I'm like, I don't...
21:46No one's going to tell me who to be friends with.
21:48I feel like you're, like, projecting all the stuff that's happened,
21:51and it's not just between me and you right now.
21:53Okay.
21:54So that's why I'm confused.
21:55I'm like, are you saying this to me, or are you saying this in general?
21:57Because I just...
21:58I think it all stems from the past.
22:00It all is coming from the past.
22:01And that's fine.
22:02Like, whatever.
22:03But I'm just saying, like, I miss what we had.
22:06Yeah.
22:07And I don't know how to get that back.
22:08Yeah.
22:09Because I'm someone that clearly doesn't want me there in that space.
22:13I can't change the past, and honestly, I don't want to talk about this any further.
22:17So I'm just ready to move forward.
22:19Hopefully the girls can see that if I'm able to forgive Whitney and move on,
22:23despite what she did, then they should hopefully be able to as well.
22:26I'm open to friendships and, like, being friends.
22:29I'm not against that.
22:30I know.
22:31So I just want you to know that.
22:33I love you.
22:34I love you too.
22:35I really just...
22:36I'm sweaty, so...
22:38It's the natural deodorant.
22:40It just drips right off me.
22:42It's a little too crispy now.
22:44He wants some beef jerky.
22:47All we're having is meat.
22:48Yeah.
22:49Oh, there's grapes.
22:50Yeah, there's fruit.
22:51And grapes.
22:52This one.
22:54Are you guys good?
22:55Yeah.
22:56No, I heard you guys chit-chatting a little bit.
22:59Yeah.
23:00I'm curious how it ended.
23:01Just fine.
23:02That's good.
23:03So you guys can talk behind my back in there.
23:05I'm not talking about you.
23:06I literally sat there and listened to it.
23:08We can hear you.
23:10I just feel like you're intentionally hurting me.
23:12Like, doing stuff to intentionally hurt me.
23:14I'm not.
23:15I'm calling you out on your shit.
23:16You're still justifying your own behavior.
23:17I'm not justifying it.
23:18I said I didn't fuck up.
23:19No, you still can't sit here and take accountability and not say,
23:22well, this is my truth of it.
23:23And it was just the place I was in.
23:25So sorry.
23:26It sucks.
23:27I have taken accountability for every fucking thing.
23:31Have you?
23:32Tell me one thing that I haven't taken accountability for.
23:35I think everyone can go down the table and tell you one thing.
23:37Kate!
23:38Let's fucking do it!
23:41I want to understand where you're coming from.
23:43And I'm saying, let's get the accountability from every single person,
23:47because I do want to know.
23:48I fucking do want to own up to it.
23:49I told you.
23:50Great.
23:52Please, I want to know so I genuinely can own up to it.
23:56Please.
23:57Because I know how I fucked up.
23:58Does everyone feel comfortable doing that?
24:00Because I really want to know.
24:01I don't think anyone cares to have an actual friendship with you.
24:12I think everyone can go down the table and tell you one thing.
24:14Kate!
24:15Let's fucking do it!
24:16Go ahead, Macy.
24:17I'm laying in bed trying to sleep because I'm a single mom of three
24:21and sleep is very rare for me.
24:23I can hear raised voices in the kitchen,
24:25and I honestly want nothing to do with it.
24:29Whatever that is, it can wait,
24:31and I really just want to go back to bed.
24:35Going into a conversation and hashing out all of the behavior
24:39and the patterns and the things, to me,
24:41is contradictory to where I'm at with our friendship.
24:45So I don't see the point,
24:47but then we're all still saying,
24:49you need to take accountability,
24:50and it's like, well, I'm trying to,
24:52but you don't want to have a conversation.
24:54Because you owe people that conversation, though.
24:56We didn't unfollow you.
24:57It's like you're doing these things,
24:59you're leaving the group chat,
25:00you're following everyone,
25:01you're expecting everyone to come to you and be like,
25:02well, have a conversation with me if you have a problem.
25:03That's not true.
25:04I'm trying to make an effort to have a conversation.
25:06You literally said it.
25:07I'm sure you did.
25:08You're like, well, no, you could have reached out to me,
25:09you could have called me,
25:10but I don't want people to call me.
25:11Wait, what the actual fuck?
25:12No, I'm saying, please, can I please?
25:14It's on the camera.
25:15I watched it.
25:16Okay, great.
25:17That's what you did.
25:18I'm saying now,
25:19I would love to have a conversation with each person,
25:20which I tried to do at the beginning of the season,
25:21and the only person...
25:22When the cameras are here.
25:23The only person...
25:24Yeah, no fucking shit,
25:25we're on a reality show, Mikaela.
25:26What the fuck?
25:27So don't talk down to me,
25:28because if you're going to be disrespectful,
25:29you can leave.
25:30Okay, well then,
25:31vice fucking versa,
25:32don't talk down to me.
25:33I'm not talking down to you.
25:34I'm holding you accountable for your shit,
25:35because you can't see it yourself.
25:36Right, okay.
25:37I think what Mikaela's saying
25:39is that we all recognize the behavior.
25:41Yeah.
25:42We recognize the patterns.
25:43There's been multiple times
25:44where she'll be like,
25:45well, she's told me
25:46that she feels really bad about that,
25:47and we're like,
25:48well, that's great she told you
25:49that she feels bad about what she did to Jesse,
25:50but like, she needs to tell Jesse.
25:51Yeah.
25:52But then when you sit down
25:53and have a conversation,
25:54it's like,
25:55I don't understand what I feel bad for.
25:56Sorry, that was just an example.
25:57I'm going to go grab the curling iron,
25:58I'm going to start your hair while we fight.
25:59Okay, thank you, yeah.
26:00While we fight.
26:01I have to leave at one.
26:02Yeah.
26:03So I have to get ready,
26:04so you can do it.
26:05It is just baffling.
26:06The amount of offenses
26:07that this woman has under her belt.
26:10But I'm choosing to kind of like,
26:12recognize the effort and move forward,
26:14but I understand why Mikayla's not there yet.
26:16I think it's going to come down
26:18to self-reflection and healing for you, honestly.
26:20Yeah.
26:21Because no matter how many times
26:22we sit here and tell you,
26:23she just wants to hear that you care.
26:24She just wants to hear that you regret that.
26:26It's not sinking in,
26:28and that's concerning.
26:32I initially was very excited
26:34and happy to be invited on this girls' trip,
26:36but I'm not going to lie,
26:37these girls are getting so deep,
26:39and it's becoming apparent
26:40that there's a lot of history here,
26:42a lot of resentment,
26:44and I can't help but wonder
26:45if this is what women supporting women looks like,
26:48because it certainly doesn't feel like it.
26:50I see both sides, I do.
26:52I think there's disconnect.
26:53So if I texted you to hang out,
26:54you'd go hang out with me?
26:55Of course, Whitney.
26:56Really?
26:57I can see and feel certain relationships
27:00in mom talk moving forward,
27:02especially with Demi.
27:03I appreciate everyone being so willing
27:05to have these conversations,
27:06obviously not Mikaela.
27:07I don't think she'll ever want to accept my apology,
27:10and I mean, like,
27:11isn't that what we preach in mom talk?
27:13Forgiveness?
27:15Well, I just wanted to let you guys know
27:17that I did schedule us a club tonight,
27:19and it's super cute.
27:20It's called, like, Cake,
27:21and it says, like, let them eat cake,
27:22and it's, like, it's a super cute, like, nightclub,
27:24so Macy can come for that,
27:25we'll go to dinner,
27:26and then we'll go to that.
27:27Cute.
27:28Okay.
27:29Love it.
27:30I think my thing will go a little bit longer,
27:31so I'll meet you at the restaurant.
27:32So we're not even hanging out with you
27:33at the pickleball thing?
27:34I think, I think you can.
27:35I know you guys have, like, a VIP section
27:37that they reserved for you guys.
27:38Cool.
27:39But you're a working girl.
27:40But mommy has to work.
27:41You want to put on some deodorant
27:47so you're not stinky?
27:48Stinky.
27:49Okay, you know where this one goes?
27:52Stinky.
27:53Where does it go?
27:54It goes right there.
27:55There.
27:56Under your armpit.
27:57Jen hasn't been doing well.
27:59She's been having a hard time
28:01getting out of bed,
28:02and we just realized
28:03we needed to get Jen the help she needs
28:06to honestly get better
28:07and get to a more stable place.
28:09Okay, should we do your hair now?
28:11Okay, now.
28:12Okay.
28:17It's been really hard
28:18just her being pregnant with our next child
28:21and having two children
28:22trying to show up for them,
28:24and I think when you face
28:25a really serious mental health crisis,
28:29you kind of take a step back
28:30and realize what really matters.
28:33Come hop on my shoulders,
28:34and we'll go up and see mama.
28:36Hold on tight.
28:44There she is.
28:46You guys want to say good morning to mama?
28:51How are you feeling?
28:52I feel, like, awful.
28:55Zach is trying to support me
28:58in what I need,
28:59but it's been a lot.
29:01It's been, for sure,
29:06one of the hardest seasons of my life,
29:08physically and mentally.
29:11Whether it's prenatal depression
29:12or postpartum,
29:13I think a lot of mothers feel like
29:17they don't deserve help,
29:19but in reality, like, we need help too.
29:23As of right now,
29:24I need to take a step back from Mom Talk
29:28and solely focus on my mental health
29:31and this baby so I can be
29:34the best version of myself
29:37for everyone around me.
29:39I'm sorry, sweetie.
29:54It's okay.
29:55It's okay.
29:56It's okay.
29:57It's okay.
30:00It's okay.
30:01It's okay.
30:02It's okay.
30:03It's okay.
30:04It's okay.
30:05It's okay.
30:06One, two, three.
30:08Macy!
30:10Woo!
30:12Look at your ass in the sun, Dad!
30:15Macy is hosting
30:16this Celebrity Pickleball event,
30:18and it's so cool
30:19to see this full circle moment for her
30:21and to see the community
30:23moment for her. She was a BYU tennis athlete, and now she's hosting this event that's on TV,
30:28and she's just in her element. Wait, is it instinct or backstreet boy? Which one? Instinct.
30:39Her being a star athlete and now turning that into hosting an event like this is so exciting
30:43and inspiring. It just feels good when you see your friends support you. That's the part of
30:55mom talk that I love is that we can always be there to support each other regardless of who
30:59hates who in the group. Hi, I have a reservation under Macy Neely. This is cute.
31:21Thank you. Ladies, welcome to Cala. We are so happy to have you all here.
31:25What is it? Perfect. So this is a mocktail shot of the Mango Amore.
31:29Okay, guys, how are we feeling about today? Well, I was actually going to ask,
31:33how do you think last night went? Like the true thoughts? It was awkward at times, but...
31:39Wait, I had a question about last night, though, with Demi asking you to be out of the
31:45show because of the money. Sorry, like, I just still don't... Like, what really happened?
31:50This morning, I thought I was definitely in the hot seat. So now I think the best way to,
31:55like, get the heat off my relationship with Michaela is to focus on Demi and Jesse's drama.
32:01Give me the details. Tell me all the nitty-gritty. I want to know.
32:04It was a call with our lawyer and managers, and literally, like, I got on and I heard Brett,
32:08and I was like, wait, wait, wait. I don't want you speaking for me. We had had, like,
32:11a mutual understanding that we were going to come in, like, fighting for everything as United Front,
32:16and then we felt like she dogged us and, like, went around us and was like, I'm going to get
32:19whatever I want. So we were like, okay, well, fuck it. Then we're going to do the same thing.
32:23You deserve to fight for more, but that doesn't mean you deserve to get paid more. I've also been
32:28told that you think you deserve the biggest brand deal, and I'm curious to why you think
32:31you deserve that. I never said that one time. I heard that, too. I heard that, too. I actually
32:37heard that, too. It's not a shock that I was a fan favorite. Like, I feel like I'm an asset.
32:43I should fight for more. Demi wasn't even originally going to be casted for the show.
32:48Do you really think that you're the star? You're the star? Nah, I don't agree with that.
32:55In what world are you putting yourself on this pedal? So what makes you that person? Yes,
33:01mom talk is a business, but it is a lot more than that. It's a sisterhood. It's a support system.
33:06However, I think Demi has let the money side and greed go to her head where that comes first,
33:13and then everyone can fend for themselves. And that, to me, is not a genuine friendship at all.
33:18And no offense, but you would have never had this opportunity without me. No, I understand that. And
33:25so when I'm hearing these things, she deserves the most. I'm like, I'm the one that was almost
33:28in a mental hospital because I opened up. I am the most vulnerable. I actually don't.
33:33But at the same time, like- Can you let me finish talking?
33:38So you're coming at her, so I'm going to defend her in that situation.
33:41You can defend her when I'm done talking.
33:45Okay, so I don't think it's fair. When I'm on the floor freaking dying,
33:49opening up to the world, and then I think some people aren't as open and aren't as vulnerable
33:54and sharing their actual shit that's going on behind closed doors deserve to be paid more
33:58because they're not being vulnerable. They're only being surface based at a dinner table,
34:01creating drama. I'm the one that's actually struggling because I'm open to the fucking
34:05world. If anyone has a right to be paid the most, it's me. I've never even asked for that, ever.
34:10Go ahead.
34:19Yeah, there's nothing you can say. So yeah, thank you.
34:23And I wouldn't be willing to kick someone off either.
34:25Where I went wrong was being willing to knock her off,
34:29but that came from a place of us being in a bad place.
34:33But I think you were willing to knock her off and probably anyone else that-
34:37That's not true.
34:38So if I felt the exact same, you would have been willing to kick her off, but not me?
34:42No, absolutely not.
34:44Demi calling me expendable and basically replaceable really hurt my feelings,
34:49and hearing that Demi also values Taylor over me on the show hurts my feelings as well because
34:54yes, Taylor got us here, but we all have something to offer in mom talk,
34:57and it's hard not to feel resentful.
35:00I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, it's just,
35:02I think we're all a team and we've all brought so much to the table.
35:06I'm all for sharing the spotlight. I don't care to have it.
35:11I love Demi and I've always seen her as a great friend.
35:14However, there is this side to her that worries me.
35:18Just seeing that Demi did that to Jesse, who's supposed to be her closest friend,
35:22definitely makes me feel like I can't fully trust her.
35:24We'll talk about it more later when we're not screaming.
35:27Okay, as the leader of mom talk, I'd like to raise a toast to new beginnings,
35:31open communication,
35:33and fertility.
35:34And fertility for all.
35:38Fertility!
35:39And no more babies for you.
35:40Only for you on that one.
35:44That's steam.
35:45That is.
35:46That was so yummy.
35:47This is a stiff mocktail.
35:49What about your stuff? Like, are you guys still planning on doing the treatments or like,
35:54figuring it out?
35:54We've kind of just started back at like square one because we don't have answers.
35:59Brett and I have been trying to get pregnant for about four years now.
36:02I definitely pushed for Brett to go in and get his sperm checked.
36:05The first time we went to the men's clinic, his sperm was basically dead.
36:09In May, you were 52 million.
36:10And then October, you're 25 million.
36:12I do suspect it's going to keep going down.
36:14I also struggle with endometriosis and we didn't want to jump to surgery.
36:19And so there's been a lot of holistic things we've done.
36:21We've both done a lot of energy healing.
36:23Go ahead and charge that heart up through our genitals.
36:26Fill up your lungs and let out an audible exhale.
36:29It is so like taxing and like emotionally draining.
36:40Like it's because you can't figure out like what's going on.
36:45It's more like how bad Maude wants his sibling.
37:01And how bad I want that with someone that I'm like in love with.
37:07And the first go around was hell.
37:10So there's a lot of me that feels like I needed to heal and move forward.
37:17I do feel like Demi's tears are genuine.
37:19I feel like her journey with having a baby
37:21has put a lot of strain on her and her relationships.
37:24But it is still concerning to see the side of her
37:27that she's willing to kick Jesse out of MomTalk for more money for herself.
37:31Anyway, yeah.
37:32So sorry about that.
37:34Stop saying sorry.
37:35Did I wreck my face?
37:37You just have two streaks.
37:39Let's go.
37:41Shake our bodies and get warm.
37:43Tonight's the last night in Scottsdale, Arizona.
37:46So it's time to hit the clubs.
37:50Jesse is drained and Taylor's tired.
37:53So Jesse and Taylor are going to go back to the house
37:56while the rest of us hit the dance floor.
38:04I just want to put all of this drama behind me,
38:07go to this club,
38:07and have the time of my life.
38:09I love doing stuff like this with the girls.
38:11It reminds me and hopefully them
38:14why we became friends in the first place.
38:16I'm ready to shake my little tail feather.
38:25Mormons aren't just sitting around
38:27reading their Book of Mormons at night.
38:28We don't drink, but we love to dance.
38:32Let loose, no drama.
38:33The music will be too loud to even talk.
38:35That's perfect.
38:36There won't be any fighting.
39:05Let's all remember who's in first place.
39:18It's you, Mikayla.
39:22I think ego and jealousy gets in the way of so many good things,
39:25especially friendships.
39:26And with women all online making content together,
39:29it's like what happened last year.
39:30Like who's the new leader?
39:31It has to be Whitney or Taylor.
39:33Yeah.
39:33Do you feel like there's an element of that in our group still?
39:37Like who do you think it would be?
39:39Competitive?
39:41All of us?
39:42Yeah.
39:42What about Demi?
39:43Are you like,
39:44because you were talking about that at dinner tonight a little bit,
39:45how like you're good at reading energy.
39:49Yeah, I could say yes.
39:51I would say there's probably some inside a little bit.
39:53Like competitiveness or jealousy?
39:58Both.
39:58Okay.
40:04What am I going to do?
40:05Okay.
40:15We do look alike when we're side by side.
40:18Do you guys want to guess who won the twerking contest in the bus?
40:22Against who?
40:23So does anyone want a hot tub?
40:28Demi, you better be naked in there.
40:32For what?
40:34Oh, Brett's fucking too.
40:42Cameras are still on and we're just filming right now.
40:44I was just taking off my makeup.
40:45I'm about to rinse.
40:46But I'll call you right back.
40:51Okay, good.
40:52Well, Demi was going skinny dipping.
40:54That was the point.
40:54She had already decided she was doing it.
40:57And then I guess she had sent a text to Brett saying,
41:01just letting you know, I'm going to go skinny dipping, whatever.
41:04But then she got a phone call.
41:06And so then she decides not to skinny dip.
41:09Demi kind of gives people crap for being controlled by their spouses and partners.
41:15And hers does that.
41:19I'm actually surprised you don't want to skinny dip.
41:23Since when do you want to keep your clothes on?
41:26How uncomfortable and like,
41:31inappropriate for me to be stripping down naked on national television,
41:35knowing that like, my stepkids are going to be seeing this at home.
41:40I mean, you always are.
41:42So that's why I'm like, I don't know.
41:43I don't want to go skinny dipping.
41:45If I don't come back in five minutes and see you and you naked as hell, I'm going to be mad.
41:49I just don't want to do it.
41:50I have BV.
41:52What's BV?
41:53It's bacterial vaginosis.
41:56You would smell it.
41:57She has it bad.
41:57What?
41:58She has it bad.
42:00Smell it?
42:00You can smell it.
42:01You don't have it.
42:01I don't have BV.
42:02I was lying.
42:03I didn't want to go skinny dipping.
42:04Now leave me alone.
42:07Oh yeah, I've skinny dipped plenty in my day.
42:11Not my first rodeo.
42:12Let's go.
42:13Let's, let's do it.
42:14We're ready.
42:20She looks good.
42:23Oh, the pool is warm.
42:24It's cool.
42:24It's warm.
42:26Ready?
42:27One, two, three.
42:39I do feel like with all the drama going on in this trip,
42:42it's time for a little warming girls gone wild.
42:46When I first started Mom Talk, it was supposed to be about friendship and fun.
42:50I do feel like this trip has brought a lot to the surface where
42:54I have to question what are Demi's intentions.
42:57We all need to be aware of her motives and why she's really here.
43:01They all have boob jobs.
43:09The great Mormon bake off.
43:11I made a pumpkin pie.
43:13This is Joseph Smith.
43:14Homemade sourdough.
43:16The penises did not bother me.
43:21How are you and Taylor doing?
43:22I have to like just take care of myself now.
43:25Demi is going out of her way to get a cease and desist
43:28to try to keep Jen and other people from talking.
43:31Jen needs Mom Talk more than ever,
43:33but I just don't really know who to trust with this information.
43:37The Sinner Sunday confessional about Brett cheating on me is so far-fetched
43:41and I know the truth always comes to light.
43:43And if something were to happen,
43:44I would eventually find out and deal with it then.
43:47I don't understand why something that's not true would bother you.