The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 7
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00:00So excited to go home job fun, but so did you have fun?
00:12I had fun at the club.
00:13I think the club unites everybody.
00:19Yeah, for sure.
00:27I look like a Barbie doll.
00:30Do I look at the camera?
00:34Yeah.
00:42That is so tiny.
00:44I literally look 12.
00:46I'm going to do the easiest one.
00:50This is not easy, Taylor.
00:53Turn it off.
00:54What?
00:55This is hard.
00:56It's two moves.
00:57This and this.
00:58That is not what it looks like in the video.
01:01Wait, Leila, are you still doing a Friendsgiving?
01:03The only reason I say that is because I don't know if I can come.
01:05I'm so sad.
01:06Yeah, I'm still having one, but I need to figure out who's going.
01:12Well, anyways, any more TikToks?
01:15It's the last day of the girls' trip, and there has been some drama.
01:20There's been some tension, but there's never enough tension to not do a TikTok together.
01:24Like one happy family.
01:27Wait, you know what could be fun is if we have the table in the back,
01:31and some people are on the table, and then some people are on the front.
01:33I want to rejoin MomTalk and coming on this trip,
01:36I really wanted the girls and MomTalk to see my loyalty to this group.
01:41I know a lot of things need to change in order for me to do that, and I'm trying.
01:44Cute!
01:48Look at us!
01:49I like the formation.
01:51Does this mean after this trip, I'm officially back in MomTalk?
01:55I wouldn't say that.
01:56I think we need to take a vote.
01:58You have 12 more initiations to complete.
02:02Am I allowed to vote?
02:08To be completely honest with you, I initially said it as a joke.
02:11Haha, so funny. Do we need to take a vote?
02:13I think the rule is that if you willingly left MomTalk,
02:16there needs to be an initiation process coming back.
02:18Should we take a vote?
02:19And they took it very seriously.
02:22All in favor, keep your hands raised.
02:29Okay, Taylor!
02:31I think everyone deserves a shot to redeem themselves,
02:35because I've been also on the other side, and I get it.
02:39I am voting for Whitney because I feel like everyone deserves a second chance
02:42if anyone knows that feeling, it's me.
02:44She gave me that at a really hard time, so I wanted to return that to her.
02:49All right, Demi, what's your answer?
02:50I feel like we made a lot of strides.
02:53With that being said, I do know that there's a lot of tension here,
02:57and I have to respect that.
02:58And so this is more of a loyalty vote.
03:00Yeah, same.
03:01For Mikayla.
03:03I agree. I don't think I can make a decision on for one week.
03:05Okay, we know Mikayla's vote.
03:07Sure do.
03:08Considering how she screamed at yesterday, yeah.
03:10I'm gonna say no.
03:12Macy?
03:15What if you want to vote for the independent party?
03:17What does that mean?
03:18Which is nobody.
03:19But you need to say yes or no, I think.
03:22Okay, then no for now.
03:23Because there's so much contention in the group, I feel like it'll take some time.
03:27Okay.
03:28They're like, sorry, Whitney, it's not your time.
03:31That was rough.
03:32I am so glad I didn't even try to get voted in,
03:35because after watching how it went for Whitney
03:38and seeing how disappointed she looked, not worth it.
03:40Let's go home!
03:42I really think all of the other women would have voted me back in
03:45if I was good with Mikayla.
03:47I don't ever see Mikayla changing her mind,
03:49so does that mean I'm just never gonna be voted back into MomTalk?
03:54I told you.
03:55It's heavy.
04:02There's no button.
04:03Oh, thanks.
04:10Oh, my God.
04:40MomTalk
04:50Like, come down more.
04:51If it falls on my face and I break my nose, I'll get a nose job, so...
05:06Hello!
05:07How are you?
05:08Do you want me to bring these in?
05:09I just ordered these for you girls.
05:11Okay, I can't wait.
05:12Yes.
05:13Yes, Amazon Prime's the best, because it's so fast.
05:15The best.
05:16After Arizona, I'm really excited to get into the holiday spirit.
05:19Demi is throwing a Christmas party.
05:21Cam and Layla are doing a Friendsgiving.
05:23Who do you think this is for?
05:26Let's get deep.
05:27Question for friends.
05:28I feel like this is a gift to yourself, because you love to, like, get deep with people.
05:31I do, but I got it for someone who doesn't know how to be a friend.
05:35Taylor?
05:36Yes.
05:38Here in Utah, people go all out for holidays.
05:40Halloween, Christmas.
05:41Utah just gets into, like, the homemaking aspect of anything.
05:44At my house, we always start planning in, like, August, and it's super fun.
05:48So I want it to feel very, like, elevated.
05:50Yeah.
05:51Celebrating, like, the end of the year with MomTalk, all we've been through.
05:55How do you feel after the trip?
05:57I know the pregnancy thing was...
05:58Yeah.
05:59Yeah, that was rough.
06:00It is so emotionally draining, because you can't figure out, like, what's going on.
06:08What's going on?
06:10I want so bad for this to work out for me and Brett, because I'm so in love with him.
06:14I want to know what it's like to do all the things with him.
06:16With him.
06:17And what our DNA would look like together.
06:18Yeah.
06:19And what we would create.
06:20So what's the plan now?
06:21Brett knows that he needs to, like, go get the varicose vein taken care of, and then I know...
06:25So the vein's, like, doing what?
06:27Like, what's the problem?
06:28They say it's, like, suffocating the sperm.
06:29Like, I guess they said that the chances of you getting pregnant naturally go up by, like, 20 to 60 percent.
06:36So we're like, let's definitely take care of that.
06:38Because if you get endometriosis surgery and it still doesn't work, and he gets his surgery and it still doesn't work, like, who is the problem?
06:44Like...
06:46I don't know.
06:48Seeing Demi get emotional about her fertility struggles is breaking my heart.
06:51I know how hard this has been for her.
06:53But I'm also really glad that Demi's opening up to the group about this, because it shows that she has a really vulnerable soft side.
06:59I know that she's been fighting and she can come across really fiery, but the more we open up to the group about our struggles and our insecurities, the closer we can all be.
07:08So, okay, like, let's say you find out Brett is the problem and it, like, won't work.
07:12Would you do a sperm donor?
07:14No, I wouldn't, but I would allow Brett to have sex with Layla if she would carry my baby.
07:17Oh my gosh, I'm dying.
07:19We were talking about that.
07:20She's willing.
07:21Layla offered, and I think it would be pretty painless, so it'd save us some cost.
07:25She's had an orgasm now, so she knows what she's doing.
07:28Jesse!
07:30Criminal.
07:45Ever, hey, it's okay.
07:48It's okay.
07:58Hi.
07:59Hi, how are you?
08:00Good, how are you?
08:01Do you want to come in?
08:02Dakota and I are not living together, but we are co-parenting.
08:06I do feel like the decision to take a step back and focus on ourselves has been the best decision for us.
08:11There's really no other answers other than, like, I feel like taking a good step back.
08:18Yeah.
08:19We're fighting a lot less and actually focusing on ourselves.
08:22You look cute.
08:23Thanks.
08:24I like your outfit.
08:26You look cool.
08:27Kareem looks good on you.
08:28Really?
08:29Ever, you got spiky hair, buddy.
08:31He cried the whole way here.
08:33Oh, he did?
08:34Normally, he passes out in the car, so I was like, I don't know what his deal is.
08:37That could be with mama, huh?
08:39But...
08:40Dude, he's so cute with the little hair.
08:42That's why.
08:43Oh, no.
08:44Wait, oh my gosh.
08:45Babe, your mom took my wipes.
08:47Are you shitting me?
08:48I'm not shitting you, remember?
08:51What did we do for me?
08:53Babe, or Dakota.
08:55That's not my fault.
08:56That's your mom's fault.
08:59You literally don't have anything.
09:00You gotta remember, okay, this is a big transformation.
09:03I just, I'm trying to, like, get everything together.
09:06It's time.
09:08Who'd you make your bed for?
09:09You're trying to impress.
09:11That's for you.
09:12Yeah, right.
09:13What do you mean, yeah, right?
09:15I've never seen you make your bed.
09:17It looks like shit.
09:19Someone I saw online, someone was like, Taylor and Dakota, I actually think, are truly meant
09:24for each other because they're both just so dumb and immature.
09:27I was like, wow, what a compliment.
09:29That's so funny.
09:30Both don't have wipeys, so go us.
09:32I know, that was my bad.
09:34You guys match?
09:35Oh my gosh, we do.
09:36Okay, so do I need to run and go get them then?
09:38No.
09:39Well, I do, actually.
09:40No, hang on.
09:41There's a little store here.
09:43You do?
09:44What?
09:45You do have a store here?
09:46Let's go.
09:47Yeah, follow me.
09:48This'll be awesome.
09:49Have you guys been sleeping together?
09:51Yeah, we've been sleeping together still.
09:54The plan was for me and Taylor to take some space.
09:57It just never really happened.
10:00Sometimes he comes over and we have sex and he goes home and yeah.
10:06You want anything else here?
10:07No.
10:08Are you sure?
10:09Yeah, I'm good.
10:10Do you feel like you guys still being intimate like that doesn't mess with your feelings?
10:15I don't think it helps.
10:16I enjoy it, but I don't think it helps.
10:20What do you do all night?
10:21At my place?
10:22Yeah, when you're up, like when you don't sleep.
10:24I'm talking to you usually.
10:26Oh.
10:28It's kind of like Groundhog Day.
10:29I don't know.
10:30Nothing's different.
10:32How long are you going to keep?
10:33Are you just going to bring him back tonight then?
10:34Yeah, I can just bring him back tonight.
10:35Okay.
10:36Say bye.
10:37Bye, baby.
10:38See you tonight.
10:39Love you.
10:40Hopefully you get your pants changed soon.
10:42Okay, see you tonight.
10:43All right, bye.
10:44I almost said I love you.
10:45Well, I do, but you know what I'm saying.
10:46Yeah.
10:50It's hard not to say that.
10:51It's hard not to say that.
11:08Hello.
11:09Hi, lovebug.
11:10Hi.
11:11How are you?
11:12Good.
11:13How are you?
11:14Good.
11:15Just recovering from the girls' trip.
11:16How are you feeling about Friendsgiving and everything?
11:18Are you ready?
11:19Yeah.
11:20Okay, good.
11:21I'm really excited.
11:22I've been working with an event planner,
11:23and she's been literally just doing everything for me.
11:25How are you feeling about Cam?
11:26I don't know what it is.
11:28Cam and I were supposed to host Friendsgiving together,
11:30and we got in a really bad fight a couple of days ago.
11:32She said that I was being too critical of him
11:35and pushing him away.
11:36Now I don't know if he's going to come to Friendsgiving at all,
11:38which really sucks,
11:39because everyone else is going to have their significant others there,
11:42except Taylor, because her and Dakota aren't together right now.
11:45But I feel like I'm constantly going to all of these events alone.
11:49I did invite Whitney.
11:50I do think that Whitney made strides this weekend.
11:52Okay.
11:53My one that I'm having a really hard time deciding on
11:56is Jen and Zach.
11:57Yeah.
11:58Especially after Arizona and finding out that she's pregnant,
12:00and I don't want to be excluding her
12:03if she's going through a really hard time,
12:04because it's going to be lame.
12:06I know.
12:07I really want it to just be a good night for you,
12:08and I do feel like if she does come,
12:10the whole night's going to be about that.
12:12Honestly, it might be good for everyone to just see her,
12:14and maybe some conversations can be had.
12:16I mean, I feel like the core value of Montauk is uplifting each other.
12:20Even though I'm not in the best place with Jen right now,
12:22and some of the girls aren't,
12:23I'm a super big believer in giving people second chances.
12:26This event is Friendsgiving,
12:27and we should kind of put our grievances aside
12:29and just be there for each other,
12:30and I just want her to feel included.
12:32No matter what,
12:33this group can never be all together without some type of drama.
12:36Yeah, for sure.
12:37It's like inevitable.
12:38Oh, I know.
12:39It's like how the girls show up,
12:40and we're like, well, Jen's not here,
12:41so this is going to be great.
12:42And then there's still so much drama.
12:43Yeah.
12:44At the end of the day,
12:45drama just follows this group.
12:46Yeah.
12:47Like, I didn't expect to walk away from that situation
12:49feeling like, what the hell's going on with Taylor?
12:51I felt like disdain from her,
12:53and I don't know if that's rooted in what she thought she heard
12:56about me thinking that I'm better than everyone
12:59and deserve more than everyone,
13:00and I don't know if it stems from that
13:02or just me genuinely triggering her.
13:05Yeah.
13:06Like, my success triggering her.
13:07Yeah.
13:08And I don't know if she would ever admit that.
13:09She will never admit that to you.
13:11Why is there even a competition?
13:14Yeah.
13:15There shouldn't be.
13:16Going into Friendsgiving,
13:17I am anticipating seeing Taylor,
13:19and there's just been a weirdness.
13:21Like, there are so many things that are stocking up,
13:23like snide comments or the rumor that Brat cheated.
13:26The truth always comes around.
13:27It does.
13:28You know?
13:29It does, unfortunately.
13:30I've also been told that you think you deserve
13:32the biggest brand deal,
13:33and I'm curious to why you think you deserve it.
13:35I never said that one time.
13:36We saw it all in the freaking bus.
13:38Every part of you.
13:39And now you want to keep your clothes on for the person?
13:41And she lost the leader of MomTalk World.
13:42For the first time!
13:44It's like, I genuinely feel like
13:47we need to have a conversation at this point
13:49and talk about what I'm noticing
13:52and how I feel like it's really targeted towards me.
13:56It almost, to me, is like she's
13:59wanting me to be honest
14:01about how dysfunctional my relationship is,
14:04but the truth of the matter is, is it's not.
14:06It's so healthy.
14:07Our relationship is healthy as can be.
14:12♪ Hop in, got no time to waste ♪
14:14♪ You think you flexing on me? Woo! Please! ♪
14:17Today you're going to do it.
14:18You're going to face your fears.
14:19I'm facing all my fears this year.
14:21Yeah.
14:22I love how the car wash is on that list.
14:23Oh my gosh.
14:24Oh, love.
14:25I don't feel the car wash.
14:27I am scared of the car wash.
14:29No, you're mumpy.
14:31Do you want to drive, Tommy?
14:32Do you want to drive to the car wash for me?
14:33Yeah.
14:34Yeah? You can do it?
14:36I would not be braving this fear
14:38if it weren't for my daughter, Tommy.
14:40She loves the car wash.
14:41I've twice asked the, like, car wash guys to do it for me.
14:44You're joking.
14:45I was like, is there anyone that can drive my car for me?
14:46Mikaela.
14:47You just drive straight.
14:49That's your anxiety talking.
14:51Ah!
14:53Just look how big the hole is to drive into.
14:55It's so easy.
14:56Okay, shit. Hold on.
14:57You're completely fine.
14:58You don't need to push the button yet.
14:59Am I good? Do I go straight?
15:01Go right! Go right!
15:03Go right, you said.
15:04I tried!
15:07More!
15:08Uh-oh.
15:09Uh-oh.
15:10I think you broke it.
15:12Yes.
15:13Turn your wheel to the right.
15:14And then I'll guide you in.
15:15I'll just have you straighten it right up.
15:17Okay. Okay.
15:19Can I put it in neutral? Hurry!
15:20Stop talking to me!
15:22Tommy!
15:25Why is it not going?
15:27You guys!
15:32It's on. It's good.
15:33It's in neutral now.
15:34Yeah.
15:36Oh, no! It's Tommy!
15:38It's literal tears!
15:39It's literally tears!
15:40He's asleep!
15:41You're, like, so sweaty and so itchy.
15:43Do I go?
15:44Yeah, yeah.
15:46I'm never doing that again.
15:49Ew.
15:50Whitney just texted.
15:51For Layla's Friendsgiving, what if we did a British bake-off,
15:54but made it a Mormon bake-off?
15:56It could be a dessert, pie, or bread,
15:59but make it Mormon-themed,
16:01and then we can have the husbands judge.
16:03I can bring the sourdough with, like, a...
16:06You know that her sourdough was from my starter.
16:10I gave her the starter.
16:12She's gonna claim that it's hers.
16:13And she's using my recipe.
16:15Of course.
16:16I'm the OG trad wife in this group,
16:18because you can't be a trad wife if you don't make sourdough.
16:20Whitney didn't make sourdough.
16:22We've officially entered the Thanksgiving season.
16:24Food, friends, baking, a trad wife's dream.
16:28Baking is huge in Mormon culture.
16:30I'm not exactly sure why,
16:32but I think it goes back to the trad wife homemaking thing.
16:35I think it's because whenever we do activities in the church,
16:38everyone brings, like, a sweet treat,
16:40like cinnamon rolls, brownies.
16:42We love to feed people with the good Lord's food.
16:47I'm not gonna bring sourdough if Whitney's already bringing sourdough.
16:50It's my recipe, so it's gonna probably taste very similar, maybe.
16:53Oh, Lordy.
16:54I'm gonna do my own sourdough.
16:55How are you gonna make it if you've never made it before?
16:57Sourdough is an art.
16:58I know, Jason. I know.
16:59You have to have a starter.
17:01I'll learn anything to beat Whitney.
17:03Oh.
17:04May the best sourdough win.
17:14Hello.
17:15Hi, welcome in.
17:16How are you?
17:17Good.
17:18Good.
17:19Let me know if you have any questions.
17:20Take a look around.
17:21Okay, perfect.
17:22Maybe I can help you with anything.
17:23Yeah.
17:24I'm making a cake.
17:25I mean, I'm not a baker at all.
17:27Have you heard of a better-than-sex cake?
17:30Yes.
17:31Okay, but in Mormon world, it's better-than-what cake.
17:34Right.
17:35The first annual Great Mormon Bake Off.
17:37I'm gonna be making a better-than-what cake,
17:40and we grew up making this at things like Young Women's
17:43and just different things at church.
17:45Oh, I've got the perfect thing for you.
17:47Don't lead me astray, Karen.
17:52Karen, you dirty dog.
17:55They're little penises.
17:57Are they really hard?
18:00They are pretty hard.
18:01No pun intended.
18:02They are pretty hard.
18:03Okay, okay.
18:04Let me know if you have any other questions.
18:06I'll probably need one of these to cover it, right?
18:09Mm-hmm.
18:10I'm kind of wanting to just, like,
18:13as far as Taylor coming to Friendsgiving,
18:15I'm trying to decide if that's the place
18:17to have a conversation with her.
18:19I'm feeling a little bit frustrated,
18:22just how I felt like she was projecting
18:24her relationship onto us.
18:26And the confession that, like...
18:28Sunday confession with Macy.
18:30Yeah, with Macy.
18:31Demi, did you know that Macy received a confession
18:34that said,
18:35I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away?
18:38Holy shit.
18:40This now, I'm just like,
18:41why is our relationship under attack, you know?
18:44The Sinner Sunday confessional about Brett cheating on me
18:47is very frustrating for him.
18:49This is such a dumb thing,
18:50I'm not even gonna give energy to false accusations.
18:53It's, uh...
18:55I mean, it's an anonymous, you know, tip.
18:59Those kind of things piss me off, but...
19:01Yeah, well, you've also dealt with it for a long time.
19:04Think about our relationship, even.
19:05Like, the things that I believe,
19:07like, I heard that you cheated on your ex.
19:09Mm-hmm.
19:10And I heard, you know,
19:12that you were in rehab for years for, like, being a druggie.
19:16Mm-hmm.
19:17You know?
19:18So, like, to find out the truth
19:19and to find out, like, that you didn't cheat on your ex,
19:21and, like, I know how the rumor mill works,
19:23and I've experienced it in my own life,
19:25and I've experienced it with things with you,
19:27that for me, I'm just like,
19:29the truth always reveals itself.
19:32And until there's proof,
19:34I don't even give it any credit or any weight.
19:36I'm like, okay.
19:37I need to worry less about optics.
19:39I think that's kind of, like, my Achilles heel.
19:41Yeah.
19:42You know, that...
19:43Yeah, you need to figure what that is within you,
19:45because that, like, I want to completely understand you,
19:48that I don't get.
19:50I don't understand why something that's not true
19:52would bother you so deeply.
19:55For me, like, I know who I am.
19:58I know the truth.
19:59Does it bother you ever?
20:01Does what bother me?
20:02Just the anonymous attacks or the random attacks.
20:05Like, does it...
20:06Yeah, I mean...
20:07Does it ever get under your skin or bother you in any way?
20:09I think ketamine helped me a lot with that.
20:10Yeah.
20:11Maybe your 40th session, you'll get...
20:13Sure.
20:15I think the reason this rumor is bothering Brett as much as it is
20:18is because he has dealt with rumors his entire life
20:21with his family in the entertainment industry
20:24and his sister being married to Larry King.
20:27He was accused of cheating on his ex-wife,
20:29which that never happened.
20:30And him being, like, an all-star Provo boy,
20:33I think people just like to talk.
20:35We're all set.
20:37Nice to meet you.
20:38Thanks for coming in.
20:39Bye, thanks.
20:42Oh, jeez.
20:43A little bit of force.
20:44Sorry.
20:45It's like you're guilty in hiding something and mad.
20:48Are we on the same page there?
20:50Like, you have to know deep in your core
20:52I would never do that to you.
20:54It's the over-explaining and, like, it's like,
20:57I don't know what it is with you,
20:58but it's literally last night, too,
21:00with you being like,
21:01We love each other, right?
21:02Yeah, no shit.
21:03Why do we keep talking about it?
21:04It bothers me.
21:06I want to find out who it was.
21:13I want to know who said that
21:14because I want to go after that.
21:15You're getting, like, worked up.
21:17It pisses me off.
21:18It does.
21:19You know that I didn't do that.
21:20I would never do that in a million years.
21:22You know that.
21:24Do you not know that?
21:25The way you're reacting is a little bit confusing.
21:28If I'm guilty, this is how I'm acting.
21:40You're so easy to piss off.
21:46Hello, come on in.
21:48Hi.
21:49Hi there, how are you?
21:50This is Scott.
21:51He's teaching me how to make sourdough.
21:53What?
21:54For our contest.
21:55Wait, you hired someone?
21:56How are you doing?
21:57I guess I could have had you do it, but, you know.
21:58Hi.
21:59For the Great Mormon Bake Off,
22:00Whitney has decided to make sourdough,
22:02and I have also decided to make sourdough.
22:04Take one of these and scrape off your spatula,
22:06and then I'm going to have you flip your bowl upside down.
22:09It's really healing for me
22:10to be a little bitchy and petty these days.
22:13I'm going to shape this into a burrito.
22:14It's the first thing I do.
22:15Yes.
22:16Okay?
22:17So, I'm going to pick this sucker up right in the middle.
22:19Slap it.
22:20And slap it down.
22:21Yeah.
22:22And I just do that a few times until it tightens up.
22:26Ooh, that was good.
22:27Now smack it up.
22:29Oh my gosh.
22:31She's getting some of her aggression out.
22:32I like that.
22:33I got a lot of aggression this year, you know?
22:35It's hard to be in the front group
22:37when I don't have a lot of aggression.
22:39Is that the type you use?
22:40I'm really loving this dough smacking process.
22:43I'm definitely not picturing Whitney while I'm doing it.
22:46Ooh, it's looking good.
22:47It looks good?
22:48It's looking good.
22:49Maybe this is what they mean
22:50by a healthy expression of anger.
22:52Mm!
22:53Mikayla, it's ready.
22:55Yay!
22:56Good luck to you.
22:57Hey, good luck on the competition.
22:59I don't need it, but thank you.
23:00I'm just kidding.
23:01Wow, I like the confidence.
23:02The crunch.
23:04Oh my gosh.
23:06Do you think there's going to be contention?
23:09Always.
23:10At Thanksgiving?
23:11Yeah.
23:12Me too.
23:13Is Jen going?
23:15I have no idea.
23:16I know Jen's invited, so if Jen's going, then Jen.
23:19So no one's heard from Jen in a while.
23:21Whitney told us on the trip that she's pregnant,
23:23and I feel like I haven't reached out to her yet
23:26because in the past,
23:27like with the whole Vegas situation
23:29and everything that she's gone through with her marriage,
23:31I have been continuously pouring energy into her
23:34and making sure she's okay,
23:35and I never get that in return.
23:37So I feel like it's okay for me now
23:39to maybe take a step back
23:40and wait for that reciprocation on her end towards me
23:44Me?
23:46Well, hopefully it'll be good.
23:48I'm in my protect the peace era.
23:50I'm in my complete opposite of that.
23:52I know.
24:05She's cute, but the other one's cuter.
24:07I'm not going to lie.
24:08Did you see it?
24:09I did. It looks perfect.
24:11Who's going to win?
24:12Whitney's going to win.
24:13Like, that is so beautiful.
24:14Is it done?
24:15Oh, it's got seven minutes.
24:16So I had this idea for the great Mormon bake-off,
24:19kind of like a spin-off from the British bake-off.
24:22I'm really excited because when I offered the idea,
24:25people are into it,
24:26so I think it's going to be a lot of fun.
24:28Oh my God, the CTR looks so good.
24:30For the mom talk vote,
24:31it did sting a little bit that Macy didn't vote for me,
24:33and that basically everyone chose Michaela's side over mine,
24:37but I'm just going to put my best foot forward
24:40and hope for the best.
24:42Oh my God, she is beautiful.
24:46I mean, it's kind of ghetto, but like...
24:48I don't know if it gets the point across.
24:50I don't know how else to make it get Mormon-y.
24:52Yeah.
24:53Let's see. Let's see if it...
24:54Oh, does it...
24:55For the Mormon bake-off,
24:56I am stenciling on CTR to give it that Mormon twist.
24:59Oh, looky here.
25:01I know, but I have to blow it.
25:02Here, I'll blow it.
25:03Wait, hold on.
25:04Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
25:06You got it?
25:08CTR stands for choose the right.
25:10We have rings of it, bookmarks of it, full-on shields of it,
25:15and it's for us to just remember values and morals
25:18that we want to live by.
25:19It's a huge Mormon symbol.
25:22No, no, no, not yet.
25:24Is there any truth to a rumor that Macy was behind
25:29your interest of getting into making sourdough?
25:32No.
25:33Sorry?
25:35It's the other way around.
25:38I'm the one who got Macy into making sourdough.
25:42Don't be scared.
25:46Perfect.
25:47I'll go get the door.
25:48I mean, it's not amazing, but...
25:49It looks great to me.
25:50Okay.
25:51Oh, what's up, dude?
25:52What's up?
25:53Come on in, man.
25:54How you doing?
25:55Good to see you.
25:56Nice to see you, too.
25:57Hi, guys.
25:58Zach's here.
25:59Hey, Zach.
26:00Hi.
26:01How are you?
26:02I've been better.
26:03Yeah, I bet.
26:04Out of respect for Jen, when we were on the girls' trip,
26:05I only told the women that she was pregnant.
26:06I didn't dive deeper into what she was going through,
26:08so I've asked Zach to come over here today
26:10because I'm starting to get really worried about Jen,
26:13and I need an update.
26:14Is that for the Friendsgiving?
26:16Yeah.
26:17Are you guys going to go to that, you and Jen?
26:18I don't know.
26:19This morning, she's been super sick.
26:20She's been throwing up, like, all morning, so...
26:22Did she get medicine at all for that?
26:24Yes.
26:25It's actually funny.
26:26We got medication, and it's gotten worse
26:27the last two days.
26:28So I just think this last year
26:32has been the hardest year of our life.
26:35And then now it's, like, all this, like,
26:37petty drama from the girls.
26:39So it's been super, super hard.
26:41But Jen likes to put on, like, a facade
26:43that she's always happy and that everything's always okay,
26:46and no one else really gets to see the truth besides me
26:49when she comes home.
26:50And I kind of want to leave it to her
26:52to share what she feels comfortable sharing,
26:55but things got pretty serious.
26:58I mean, just to be honest with you,
26:59like, she cries, like, every day,
27:01and it's 90% related to the girls.
27:03But I'm like, Jen, like, at some point,
27:05like, I'm not trying to control who you are friends with
27:07and who you guys are not friends with,
27:08but, like, you guys have reached out,
27:10you guys have been amazing.
27:11Outside of that, it doesn't feel like anyone cares.
27:14I just feel like at some point, like,
27:16these aren't true friendships.
27:18Some of these girls are so quick and willing
27:20to talk bad about Jen, to expose her,
27:22even get online and, like, make petty TikToks about her
27:25with the other girls or even with their husbands.
27:28Jen is not perfect, and she has made mistakes.
27:31I feel pretty defensive of my wife
27:33because I do think she, for the most part,
27:35has honestly really good intentions
27:37and has a pure heart.
27:38But the reality is, like,
27:39these girls can't trust each other.
27:41Like, they constantly backstab each other.
27:43Why do you think these girls are saying
27:45nasty things about your wife?
27:46And what has Jen done to upset them is my question.
27:49I'll be honest.
27:50I think they are some of the biggest
27:52gaslighters that exist.
27:54Jesse and Demi?
27:55Yeah, specifically.
27:56I think Mikaela and Layla just do it
27:58because they are followers
28:00and they want to fit in.
28:01And that's the cool thing to do right now.
28:04I think Demi and Brett specifically,
28:06they have more skeletons in their closet
28:08and more, honestly, crap to get exposed
28:11that they don't want to share their true story.
28:13And so if they can flip that narrative
28:15and talk badly about Jen
28:16or turn it back on her or make her look crazy,
28:18it covers them up.
28:20Does Jen know they're skeletons?
28:22I mean, quite a few of them.
28:25What did she find out about?
28:29That's the last time.
28:34You don't need to tell us if you don't want to.
28:37I'm trying to like,
28:39I feel like if anything,
28:40me getting involved,
28:41like a reoccurring theme for me
28:43is when I get involved,
28:44it causes Jen more issues.
28:45Yeah.
28:46So I almost like don't,
28:47like I want Jen to show those things
28:48if she thinks it's right.
28:49Did something happen in Italy?
28:51I'm not going to say what happened.
28:52I will just say this.
28:55Apparently Demi is going out of her way
28:57to get a cease and desist.
28:59When Zach's referring to Demi's skeletons in her closet,
29:02I'm thinking it's what Jen told me
29:04about what happened with Demi in Italy,
29:06like something about her flirting with a guy or something.
29:10I don't know.
29:11I don't know the whole story.
29:12That's all I know.
29:13Unfortunately, it just makes her look
29:14even more guilty in my opinion.
29:16A cease and desist,
29:17like I'm not going to lie,
29:18like kind of makes me a little suspicious.
29:20Like did something really serious happen there
29:23that you don't want Jen to talk about?
29:24Like what's going on right now?
29:26And it's like if you need to go to that extent
29:28to cover up your own shit,
29:29you've probably messed up.
29:30Yeah.
29:31Like that's the kind of people they are,
29:33but like their true colors
29:34are going to be exposed at some point.
29:36And I have nothing to lose,
29:38so I'm like we can play that game
29:40if that's what you want to do.
29:53Hi, welcome into Swig.
29:55Can I just get a 32 Bloody Wilds,
29:58add coconut cream.
29:59Of course.
30:02I finally texted Cam and asked him to meet up
30:04so we can work through some of the issues
30:05that we've been going through.
30:06I'm definitely a little nervous.
30:08I don't really handle conflict well,
30:10but Cam means a lot to me
30:11and Friendsgiving is tomorrow,
30:12so I really want to work through this with him
30:14so that he can come to Friendsgiving
30:15and be there by my side.
30:17Well, thanks for responding to my text
30:20and being willing to like meet.
30:22It's just been really hard for me
30:23to just process everything
30:25with not knowing like what I did.
30:29Just felt honestly like not treated that good.
30:34Things weren't great between us
30:35for the last couple months.
30:37It was hard to just go every day
30:40and just be unsure about if you love me or not.
30:43I think that I was super insecure,
30:45which I've never ever been like that in a relationship.
30:47And so the stress just added up
30:49and then I just kind of broke.
30:51So...
30:53What else?
30:54No, I think that it's something that I do a lot
30:58in a lot of my relationships
30:59and it's something that I wasn't super aware of
31:01and that's not an excuse,
31:02but I think just I am still super unhealed
31:05from my relationship with Clay.
31:07And I think I take it out on people around me
31:09and it's not fair to you
31:10or it's not fair to anyone.
31:12I think that I definitely have a lot of trust issues
31:15that stem from allegations
31:16of getting cheated on in the past.
31:18My childhood with my parents getting divorced
31:20and just a very messy home life.
31:24So I have a hard time believing people's words to me
31:28and saying that they love me
31:29and that they care about me
31:30and they want to be with me
31:31because I feel like just everyone
31:32ends up leaving me in the end, so...
31:39But I'm really sorry that I would do that
31:41in our relationship
31:42because you do mean a lot to me
31:45now that I'm aware of what I was doing.
31:48I really promise I'm going to be better.
31:51I still love you.
31:52That never changed for even one second.
31:57I love you so much.
31:58I want to make this work.
32:02Of course.
32:04I never realized how hard it was going to be
32:06for me to have to open up after my divorce
32:08and the things that happened with my childhood.
32:10But it's something that I'm going to have to do
32:12if I don't want to be alone forever.
32:14But I'm just really grateful
32:15that Cam is willing to work on this relationship
32:18and really excited
32:19that he's going to be at Friendsgiving.
32:24I love you so much.
32:25I love you.
32:38Hold on.
32:39Do I start on the dance?
32:40It has been like six months, so...
32:43When did you play and what college was it again?
32:46It was community college in Washington.
32:52Was your team good at all?
32:54Yeah.
32:56Jeez, dude.
32:57All right.
32:59Gavin's one of my best friends
33:01and he actually let me crash at his house
33:04when Taylor kicked me out.
33:06He's kind of seen a lot of the ups and downs
33:09and he's always just been there for me.
33:12How are you and Taylor doing?
33:14Today?
33:15I mean, it changes every day.
33:17I feel like the weather.
33:18Yeah, dude, it does, too.
33:20Every single day, I feel like it's different.
33:22Is it getting better and more consistent
33:24or is it still volatile?
33:26Yeah, dude.
33:27It's just off and on the whole time.
33:30Taylor's the one that keeps coming back to me.
33:32I mean, to be honest, it feels very unfair for me in a way.
33:36Don't keep making it seem like I'm not with you
33:40but yet here I am with you.
33:42I don't want my relationship to be a joke, dude.
33:45Have you had that conversation?
33:47I've tried to have it a few times.
33:49It just always comes back to Taylor bringing up Jenna.
33:53I want to be this happy, healthy couple
33:56and I think he wants the same thing.
33:58I just feel so bad because I get triggered almost daily
34:02about the same thing.
34:05I'm going to try to be there for her in a better way.
34:07What's the better way?
34:08Because I feel like you've tried everything.
34:09It sounds like a broken record.
34:12Yeah.
34:14I'm just being devil's advocate.
34:16I love you.
34:17I would die for you and I need to look out for you
34:20and friends need to call you out, right?
34:22Because I feel like it's this ever-ending cycle.
34:24I do feel like Taylor has some more deep-rooted stuff.
34:27It's not just me.
34:28She needs to work on it.
34:29I think she's genuinely trying to figure this stuff out.
34:34That's great, but I mean...
34:36Yeah.
34:37Where do you draw the line and when is enough enough?
34:39I've seen it drain you.
34:41You lost a lot of weight.
34:43Lost over 40 pounds.
34:44Yeah.
34:45What's better for a child?
34:46A dismembered household or a father figure
34:50that's concrete and cemented in self-love?
34:52Yeah.
34:53I think that's way better.
34:54It takes that selfish decision to be like,
34:57I got to clean up my own shit
34:59and if you want to be there with me, for sure.
35:01If you don't...
35:02Yeah.
35:03I think I do need to get to a point where I'm kind of like,
35:05I just stand up for myself and be a man, dude.
35:07Take control.
35:08And just be like, hey, I also don't feel like
35:10this is fair for me in any way.
35:12I want to have a family one day
35:14and I want to be able to do these things.
35:16And I want it to be with you.
35:17Yeah, and I want it to be with you,
35:18but if you can't do that
35:19or you don't feel like you're capable of doing that,
35:22then I have to just take care of myself now.
35:28And you need to draw those lines
35:29and figure out when that needs to be.
35:34If we're not together,
35:35we definitely need to stop having sex.
35:37And in my eyes, it's simple.
35:39It's like, I want her to just decide.
35:41It's like, if you want this, let's do this.
35:44If you don't, don't.
35:52Another one.
35:55Short skirt, make him want to get it.
35:57Long hair, make him want to flip it.
35:59Like a stripper, make him want to tip it.
36:01If you're cute, baby, I'ma let him put the tip in.
36:03Hi!
36:04How are you?
36:05Good, how are you?
36:06You look so cute.
36:07What's up, guys?
36:08Good, how are you doing?
36:09I'll take it, I'll take it.
36:10Friendsgiving is tonight.
36:11My sister Sophia and her husband are here from out of town.
36:13Jordan and Jesse, unfortunately,
36:14aren't going to make it because they're in Mexico.
36:16And I still haven't heard back from Jen
36:18if she's going to come tonight with Zach.
36:20Can you put it, like, over there?
36:21Yeah, I'll put it over there.
36:23I'm really happy that me and Cam are in a better place right now.
36:25And finally, I'm not by myself at one of these events.
36:28And don't quote me on this,
36:30but I'm actually a little bit excited for Whitney's bake-off.
36:32It's cheesy, but I think it's going to be really fun.
36:34Hello!
36:36You look so good.
36:37Oh, goodness, you're beautiful.
36:39Hi, Effort.
36:40Miranda, Jake, this is my sister, Sophia,
36:43and then her husband, Alex.
36:44Nice to meet you.
36:45Nice to meet you.
36:47You look amazing.
36:51I made a last-minute decision to not only make one thing,
36:54but to make four.
36:55Homemade sourdough loaf, pumpkin pie,
36:58sourdough cinnamon rolls, and then homemade cinnamon butter.
37:01My strategy is, if one doesn't go good,
37:04then I can just substitute the other one in
37:06and see if it gets a better response.
37:07Have you already filmed everybody else baking?
37:09I've filmed Whitney.
37:10What was hers looking like?
37:12I don't think I'm allowed to make any comments.
37:14Losing's not an option.
37:16What are you doing?
37:18These are for all of the husbands slash partners.
37:20Is Dakota coming?
37:21I mean, I don't know why he would.
37:23Are you guys okay?
37:24No.
37:25Oh, okay.
37:26Great.
37:27We're never okay.
37:28I was like, oh, all right.
37:29Dakota has given me this ultimatum
37:30where he wants me to either fully commit
37:32or wants to fully end the relationship,
37:34but I don't really know, and it's been weighing on me.
37:37Throw away his judging sheets.
37:39Spit on it and kick it.
37:40Perfect.
37:41Hi!
37:42Hello.
37:43Hi!
37:44He's Mr. Grumpy.
37:46He is.
37:48I'm heading into Friendsgiving.
37:49There's definitely nerves.
37:51I don't know if Jen's gonna show up
37:53or if Taylor's planning on coming at me
37:55like she did in Arizona.
37:56This is stunning.
37:58Honestly, I'm here to support Layla and just have fun.
38:01Okay, we are all gonna go into this lovely room right here,
38:05and husbands slash partners
38:07are going to judge the great Mormon bake-off.
38:11Ooh, hi.
38:12Whoo!
38:14Oh, someone made a sourdough!
38:17Wait, stop!
38:18No, you did not!
38:20No, that's not mine.
38:21That's Mikayla.
38:22Wait, stop!
38:23You both have PTR.
38:25I am dead.
38:26That's embarrassing.
38:28Hashtag 20.
38:30No, I made mine first.
38:31I started, like, two days before she did.
38:33This is what's at stake right now.
38:35Yeah.
38:37In this competition, we will be having...
38:39We will... Okay, let me start over.
38:41In this competition, all baked goods will be...
38:45In this competition,
38:47all baked goods will be presented
38:49to this panel of esteemed husbands and boyfriends.
38:52They will be tasting, critiquing, and scoring each creation
38:56based on the flavour, the presentation,
38:58and how well it ties in to our Mormon culture.
39:01The judges will rate everything on a scale of 1 to 10
39:04and will tally up the scores.
39:06Whoever comes out on top will not only win bragging rights,
39:10they will also be awarded the coveted
39:13first annual Mormon bake-off apron.
39:16May the best trad wife win.
39:19Um, you guys are testing four things for me today.
39:22Overachiever.
39:24You don't get more points because you made more than one.
39:26Pick your favourite.
39:28They said I could only put in one.
39:30It's not my fault that I went above and beyond
39:32and everyone else half-asked it.
39:34Ended up ultimately going with my pumpkin pie
39:37just because it was more on brand for the Mormon theme.
39:45I'm not gonna lie, those were really good.
39:47Are you ready for your judgement?
39:49Yes, chef.
39:50A 9 out of 10.
39:51Wow!
39:52The whipped cream is a no for me.
39:54I'm giving you an 8.
39:56I give it a 9.
39:57Oh, it looks like a 6.
40:03A little sacrilegious, but it tasted great.
40:07I should have done the cinnamon rolls.
40:09Layla, it's your turn.
40:10I made a pumpkin pie.
40:12I don't think it's cooked.
40:13It looks beautiful.
40:15Layla's presentation from start to finish
40:17was absolutely disgusting.
40:19I'm probably not gonna win this.
40:20Of course, a 10.
40:21People eat raw eggs all the time.
40:23This is gluten-free blueberry coffee cake.
40:28Mormons can't even drink coffee, so yeah, I don't get it.
40:31As far as the Mormon aspect, it gets a 1 for me.
40:34This is Joseph Smith here, and he's on Hill Cumorah,
40:37and guess what's under the rock?
40:39The golden plates.
40:41Not the lesson.
40:42I actually love a good peanut butter bar,
40:44except for the ones she made.
40:45They were gross.
40:46The texture coated the inside of your mouth.
40:48Ew, gross!
40:49Okay, saggy whipped cream over there.
40:51I'm gonna say this grew my testimony a little bit.
40:53I had a feeling it would.
40:55This is apple pie.
40:57Dang, that's not bad at all.
40:58That's pretty good.
40:59Really?
41:00The judges all love my pie.
41:02Am I surprised?
41:03No.
41:04I spent, you know, the time going to get it
41:07and putting it in the pans,
41:08and it looks very homemade
41:09because it looks like a little, like, messed up.
41:13I'm gonna give this a solid 8.
41:15Thank you, guys.
41:16Oh, boy. Get ready to live, boys.
41:18This is a better-than-what cake,
41:20but we're removing the taboo in the church around sex,
41:23so I threw some penises on top.
41:25Um...
41:27I'm not really getting the theme.
41:30It's reaching to me.
41:32Let's just say this cake was a total turn-on.
41:36Oh!
41:389 out of 10.
41:40The penises did not bother me.
41:42Forgot they were even there.
41:44Oh!
41:46I'm gonna say orgasmic.
41:48Oh!
41:49This was a 10.
41:50Brett dogged me
41:51because my hot Jesus was sacrilegious,
41:53even though he had penises all over his cakes.
41:56This right here is a homemade sourdough.
42:00I did not tell Jace what to vote everybody else,
42:04but if he knows what's best for him
42:06to give Whitney, like, a 3.
42:08Technically, that's my starter, right?
42:10No.
42:13I don't believe it for one second.
42:15This was a 9 for me.
42:16Ooh!
42:18Oh, he's sleeping on the couch.
42:22Who's the winner?
42:24The scores were pretty close, actually.
42:27In third place is...
42:29Whitney's bread.
42:33I'm so shocked that I'm in third.
42:35In second place with 52 points...
42:39Mikayla's pumpkin pie.
42:43I got second place, which I'm fine with
42:46because if I would have lost to Whitney,
42:48I would have never lived it down.
42:50So, I won.
42:52In my heart.
42:54I won with 53 points.
42:57Demi's.
43:01Despite everything going on in MomTalk right now,
43:04these are the moments in MomTalk that just make it so fun
43:06and remind me that, hey, there's actually good here.
43:10Let's try to see past all the drama.
43:12Let's just have a good time.
43:13Congratulations.
43:14Who would have thought?
43:15First thing I've won in my entire life.
43:18I don't think I'll be wearing this apron in the kitchen,
43:20but in the bedroom, you know,
43:22you know I'll be pulling this number out.
43:25Okay, well, as much as I want to keep eating dessert all night,
43:27I don't.
43:28So, let's go eat dinner.
43:29Okay, do I have to wear this all night?
43:30Yes.
43:31Penises are not Mormon.
43:33Jesus is even...
43:34Well, Jesus is Mormon,
43:35but what I did was Mormon.
43:37It was rigged.
43:38It was, it really was.
43:39I'm still salty about it.
43:43Dear Heavenly Father, we're thankful for this day.
43:45We're thankful to be together as friends
43:47and we're thankful for the growth of our families as well.
43:49We say these things in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
43:51Amen.
43:54Layla, well done, sis.
43:55Well done.
43:56This is incredible.
43:57Has anyone heard from Jen at all?
43:59Are they coming?
44:00I texted her to invite her to this.
44:02She responded and said that she had to let me know
44:04and I haven't heard back from her.
44:05She really is so sick from being pregnant.
44:07Yeah, every single one of us can relate to.
44:09Yeah, we'll all hear from her hopefully.
44:11Eventually, yeah.
44:12As much as I want to talk to Demi about the cease and desist,
44:15Zach told Connor and I about that in confidence
44:18and I really want to respect that.
44:20It's hard because Jen needs mom talk more than ever,
44:23but I just don't really know who to trust
44:25with this information.
44:26Time will tell.
44:30I feel like we're at your wedding dinner.
44:32It is.
44:33This is a surprise.
44:35Okay, wait, I'm curious.
44:36I feel like you guys have a really good way
44:38about going about things when it comes to trust.
44:40It's like the confessional we got when we were in Arizona
44:42about Brett.
44:43If I heard that about my partner, it would make me spiral.
44:47Well, first and foremost,
44:49let me just say that we have not always had
44:51the best relationship when it comes to that
44:54and he really struggled in the beginning of our relationship
44:57without me doing anything or saying anything
45:00that would make him feel this way, just trusting me.
45:02But where we're at now is so solid
45:05and I'm with him 24-7.
45:08He would have to be so sly and so crafty
45:11to pull something like that.
45:13He's never let Brett for more than four minutes.
45:15He only needs two.
45:17Good job, honey.
45:19If we all had to address accusations like that,
45:23we'd be here until we were 100 years old.
45:25Yeah.
45:26It's just such a cowardly way to do it.
45:28It's like if you're going to say something,
45:29say it with your chest and give proof,
45:31that's what the case is.
45:32Yeah.
45:33Sinner Sunday confessions are anonymous,
45:35so it makes it really hard to know
45:36if something is really true or not.
45:38And now I'm honestly regretting sharing this one about Brett
45:41because it keeps getting brought up.
45:43Well, there's that, and then mine was also true, so...
45:46Oh, see, I forgot about that.
45:48It's wild to me that Taylor would have the audacity
45:50to come at my marriage,
45:51and it's absolutely clear at this point
45:53where this is coming from.
45:54It's just projection after projection.
45:56And you're jealous and resentful
45:58that I actually have a good relationship and you don't.
46:12I didn't even question it.
46:14And, yeah, it's true, so I guess that's where it's, like...
46:16I'm not saying that's the case here.
46:18I'm just saying, like,
46:19her confessions do mean a lot to me now
46:20because it's, like, the one that I blew off was true.
46:23And I was like, whoa.
46:24Do you feel like you finally got the whole truth, though, now?
46:27I have no idea.
46:28Do you feel like there's nothing you guys can do
46:30to earn that trust back?
46:31I mean, it's hard.
46:32That's hard after, like, two years.
46:34Like, I don't know.
46:35And he's saying, like, obviously, like,
46:37if I can't give him an answer, then he needs to move on,
46:40which I respect.
46:41He's giving you an ultimatum right now?
46:43Yeah, saying, yeah,
46:44if you can't give me 100% commitment,
46:46then I have to start moving on with my life
46:48because we've been at this for two years, so...
46:50How's he taking the accountability, though,
46:52and the steps to change?
46:53Could you see him being like, I really feel bad about this.
46:56I really messed up.
46:57I really, like, I'm glad I got the second chance.
46:59Like, it's quite the opposite.
47:01I'm sorry.
47:03I feel like I fight my mind with my heart
47:06because I don't know if I can trust again
47:09so in my mind, logically,
47:11big picture says this doesn't work.
47:13It's not working.
47:14It's never going to work.
47:15I don't deserve someone who does that.
47:17My heart wants it to work,
47:19cares about him,
47:21and feels like I want this.
47:23So, yes, he has his issues,
47:26but am I the problem?
47:28Like...
47:29That's what I know.
47:31She's like, I'm a bad bitch.
47:33I'm good.
47:34No, actually, I don't feel that way.
47:36Yeah, but, like, none of that matters
47:38when you're, like,
47:39when someone you love does that to you.
47:41You have no idea.
47:43Sorry, Tay.
47:44Sorry, Taylor.
47:45It's so hard.
47:46It's fine.
47:47It's not, and that's okay that it's not.
47:50Yeah, none of it matters.
47:51Nothing matters.
47:52Taylor, I hope you feel validated.
47:54That's not an okay thing to happen,
47:56and it's okay for you to feel sad.
47:58Yeah, but I feel like I was awful, too,
48:00so I, yeah.
48:02To Dakota?
48:03Yeah, I've been awful to him.
48:04Well, it doesn't justify his actions towards you.
48:07It doesn't justify neither.
48:08Like, I feel like we both have valid reasons
48:10to, like, leave at this point.
48:12It just sucks, because we just had a baby, so...
48:14Taylor, do you feel like you are deserving of love?
48:23I don't know.
48:25You are.
48:26You definitely are.
48:28You absolutely are.
48:29But you have to realize that.
48:31That has to come from within you.
48:34I don't want to make this about me or Whitney,
48:36but I can feel for what you're feeling right now,
48:39but in a totally different way.
48:41You know, I, a lot of you haven't,
48:43didn't meet me before all of this kind of surfaced.
48:46Um, I was a bit of an asshole.
48:49And a jerk.
48:51I had a real problem,
48:53and it led to something that really hurt my wife.
48:56I'm so sorry.
48:59And I'm working on myself.
49:02When Connor and I left Utah
49:04because of the whole Tinder scandal,
49:06I didn't know what was going to happen with my family.
49:11But the very first question that you have to ask yourself
49:14is, do you want this?
49:17And that's what Taylor needs to ask herself.
49:20I was given a second chance,
49:23and I don't feel like I deserved it.
49:26I don't feel like I deserved it.
49:28I'm grateful.
49:30But it's hard being in the position
49:32of being rewarded a second chance
49:34and telling people that a second chance
49:36is not a road that I would recommend.
49:38It was, it was hard.
49:40You got to think long and hard about this
49:42because that two-ish years
49:45we spent working on our relationship was,
49:49it was like a forger's fire.
49:51It hurt every day.
49:53I just hope you know that I know
49:55that this is a hard decision to make,
49:57and I know that you're feeling everything.
49:59And all that matters right now
50:01is you trying to find that peace in your life.
50:03It's worth finding that peace.
50:05So whatever it takes, just do what you got to do.
50:07Well, thank you.
50:09That was so beautiful.
50:11I'm about to cry.
50:15As much as I want to talk to Taylor,
50:17and I do want to clear the air,
50:19I'm seeing that, like, clearly
50:21this all hasn't been about me.
50:23This has been about Taylor,
50:25and right now she needs support and love.
50:29At the end of the day,
50:31the soul of Mom Talk is to be there
50:33for one another and to uplift,
50:35root each other on.
50:37It's just a beautiful thing, really, to watch.
50:39And I just hope that this continues.
50:41I need to give you a hug. I love you.
50:43Love you. Sorry.
50:45For what? I don't know.
50:47Is it just being harsh again?
50:49I'm sorry that you're going through all of this.
50:51I wanted to reach over and give you a hug.
50:53Like you said, I think everyone wants their own.
50:55But in this moment, it was you.
50:57So I'm here for you.
50:59I love you. I'm sorry.
51:01Oh, you're fine. This is just my side.
51:03It's not you, I promise.
51:05Just kidding.
51:07Friendsgiving started a little shaky.
51:09I was a little worried, but things are ending on a high note.
51:11I am shocked and relieved that there wasn't
51:13any drama tonight.
51:15This must be a Friendsgiving miracle.
51:20I am worried for this Saints and Sinners party.
51:22Are you ready for drama?
51:24No. Not a single one of my friends said anything
51:26on my CMA post.
51:28How quick it was to throw us all under the bus.
51:30We have a long line of
51:32all this shit that's just building, building, building.
51:34I think Taylor is a liability
51:36to MomTalk. Pay attention to
51:38whose corner you're in.
51:40Demi says an atomic bomb is coming for me.
51:42I'm gonna give you my
51:44group chat that has Demi, Jesse,
51:46Macy, and Mikayla.
51:48I don't know where we're gonna go from here.
51:50Demi was like, I guess we're supposed to bow down
51:52to Taylor. She wants to be Queen B.
51:54Do we want to get into how you are
51:56behind closed doors? I just think you're
51:58fake. What's fake?
52:00Just say it. What?
52:02Fuck you, Taylor.