Pilgrimage - The Road Through the Alps S07E01
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00:00On the medieval pathways of the majestic Austrian and Swiss Alps...
00:07Wow, look at that!
00:09...seven celebrities are making an epic pilgrimage.
00:13Look at this sign.
00:14Ah!
00:15Pilger Herberger.
00:16Pilger Herberger.
00:17Pilgrimage Hostel.
00:19Among them, a pilgrim with mixed heritage.
00:22My father was born into a Jewish family,
00:25but I'm told I was christened, obviously I can't remember.
00:28A Muslim who's doing things her own way.
00:30I have been through periods of my life where I didn't lose faith, I gave it up.
00:36And a practicing Catholic.
00:38I've been saying, show me a sign, just let me know you're there, let me know you're there.
00:42And funny enough, I'm now going on a pilgrimage.
00:45That is insane, isn't it?
00:49Do you want to look at that view, Helen?
00:51Not really, thanks.
00:53Their final destination is Einsilden Abbey, with its revered 15th century Black Madonna,
00:59which attracts almost a million pilgrims and visitors every year.
01:04I wasn't expecting to have my breath taken away.
01:08For 12 days and over 300 kilometers.
01:12We are twice as high as Mount Snowden.
01:14Wow.
01:15There'll be challenges.
01:17Fingers crossed, none of us die and we all make it.
01:20Yeah.
01:21Realizations.
01:22I feel like I'm plugged into something really special.
01:26You're someone who makes me believe more.
01:28And surprises.
01:29I ain't going over a spider.
01:31With this stroke, you're becoming our brother.
01:35I never sit down with a mate and say, okay, let's talk about faith.
01:39We have killed, we have maimed, we've done terrible things to one another.
01:43But will they embrace this journey of a lifetime?
01:47Oh, silly boots.
01:49I wonder how far we are from the border.
01:51We've not got too long left.
01:53How long?
01:54You don't want to know.
01:56Innsbruck.
02:01Capital city of the Austrian state of Tyrone.
02:11In the Middle Ages, it was a crossroads teeming with thousands of Catholic pilgrims heading south to Rome and Jerusalem,
02:18while traveling west on the way of Saint James to Santiago in Spain.
02:26But many of the original paths lay forgotten
02:28until the beginning of the 21st century.
02:33The pilgrims will be following the Austrian Camino, or Jakobsweg,
02:38into Switzerland, to Einzelden,
02:41and one of the Catholic Church's most historic abbeys.
02:49In the small town of Insing, just outside Innsbruck,
02:52the seven pilgrims will meet for the first time.
03:00Jay McGuinness, singer from boy band The Wanted, is first to arrive.
03:06Now that I'm actually here, I feel a release of breath.
03:10It's like walking into a postcard.
03:13There's just so much more room for your thoughts.
03:18Not that I have many.
03:19I know we're about to start a journey together, seven of us,
03:25but I'm trying to let the calmness of the valley
03:27override the anxiety of meeting whoever they are.
03:33Next up... Oh, hello!
03:35..our presenter, Geoff Brazier... I'm Geoff.
03:37..and journalist, Nelifah Hedayat. I'm Nelifah.
03:40Good to see you, Jay. How are you? Good to see you.
03:41How are you? Very well, I think. I'm really excited about this.
03:44You know, when you bond as a group,
03:45those sort of bonds are really meaningful to me.
03:48What band was it again? The Wanted!
03:50The Wanted! See, I've never had that.
03:51You've never been in a boy band? I've never been in a boy band.
03:54Shockingly, I know.
03:56The fourth pilgrim, Harry Clark,
03:58was in the army before he won the hit entertainment show,
04:01The Traitors.
04:02A lot of people go on pilgrimage to find healing
04:05and to find help through something in their life.
04:07Hello, pilgrim!
04:09Hola!
04:10This last four months of my life have been absolutely hectic.
04:14I've had to stop, pull my pants up about five times.
04:16Hello. I'm Jeff. How are you?
04:17So I'm sort of trying to find that sense of calmness.
04:20Hey, how are you doing?
04:20And just love life like I always have.
04:23Joining them are stand-up comedian Deliso Chaponda
04:26and retired British Paralympian Stephanie Reid,
04:29who grew up in Canada.
04:32Life was so simple as an athlete.
04:34It was to win. That was it.
04:35Whereas now, I don't always know what direction to go.
04:38I took forever to put these together.
04:42I am ready for the sort of delving into my soul
04:45and exposing my inner self.
04:48But I am not ready for 10 to 16 kilometres of walking every day.
04:54You look like proper pilgrims.
04:56No, no, no, no.
04:57I'm older than you, so I need the help.
04:59The final pilgrim is actor and comedy legend Helen Lederer.
05:07I really want to do my best on this pilgrimage.
05:10If something goes wrong or I just can't do it,
05:13I'm going to have to own it, but I really don't want that to happen.
05:16Hi.
05:17Hello.
05:18How lovely to meet you all.
05:20I'm Nellifer.
05:21Lovely, I'm Helen.
05:22I've just got all the horrible towny anxiety,
05:25haven't got the right equipment,
05:27what do I look like, haven't got the right clothes,
05:30you know, all that clutter.
05:31Everyone looks really fit.
05:33Oh, no.
05:33We do have people that actually know about walking on this journey.
05:35Yes, do you know about walking?
05:37No, but I bought all the kids.
05:38She's a sprinter, Helen.
05:41Each pilgrim has been given a phone
05:43with information about the route as well as maps.
05:46From what I'm seeing here, we need to be turning around
05:49and I think we're going that way.
05:52But it's downhill.
05:53Might as well get going, right?
05:55Here's some memories, guys.
05:56Let's go!
05:58The pilgrims are starting their challenging 300km journey in Austria.
06:04To the west is the state of Tyrol
06:07and its majestic alpine landscape.
06:10For two weeks, they'll travel on foot and by bus,
06:13beginning their pilgrimage at Innsingh.
06:17They'll head west,
06:19following the Inn Valley through the heart of the Alps.
06:23A tough climb will take them across the Alberg Massif
06:26before they head towards the border with Switzerland.
06:32There they'll cross the lush Appenzel Alps
06:34and a last push from the medieval town of Rapidsville
06:38will bring them to their journey's end, Einzelden Abbey.
06:43A famous pilgrim destination
06:45with a remarkable history that goes back over 1,000 years.
06:49It is a pilgrimage, right?
06:55So there's religious connotations.
06:57Which I'm incredibly curious about.
06:59What I love is the lessons that come up
07:01when you're not actually looking for them.
07:03Yeah.
07:03So I'm a Muslim.
07:06Yeah.
07:06More than many people will probably not like to call me that.
07:08Why not?
07:09But people don't like to describe someone
07:12who lives their life the way I do as a Muslim
07:14because they see it as an affront
07:18to their version of Islam.
07:20What about you two?
07:21What are you kind of...
07:23Well, I was raised Catholic.
07:25But I think that the old ways of thinking
07:29in the Catholic Church are just really harmful.
07:33Really harmful.
07:34And I don't think that any religion
07:36should be cast in judgment.
07:39So I just stepped completely away from it.
07:43As well as being in The Wanted,
07:45Jay McGuinness has also been a winner
07:47of Strictly Come Dancing.
07:49These days, he works as an actor and writer.
07:53I think the closest I can get to what I am
07:55would be agnostic.
07:56I don't believe that there is a God
07:59and I don't believe that there isn't.
08:01I think we're stuck here in this mortal realm
08:04and you only find out once you go beyond the curtain.
08:06So I'm really open to there being more
08:08and I really hope there is.
08:09And if there is, what is it?
08:12What are we?
08:13And how do we fit into it?
08:14You know?
08:17Hard question to answer or even ask.
08:21I agreed to go on a pilgrimage.
08:23I think...
08:25Honestly, it just sounded like the perfect thing
08:26to do.
08:29Three years ago,
08:30Jay's close friend and bandmate,
08:32Tom Parker, died of cancer.
08:36While Tom was sick,
08:38I definitely had moments that I would say I prayed,
08:41whether or not you would call it that.
08:42And then when he passed away,
08:45I suddenly felt like,
08:48hmm, I wonder if he can hear me now.
08:51I think that did sort of re-ignite
08:54a lot of the questions that I've left unanswered
08:57in the back of my mind.
08:58In some way, I know that I'm maybe searching
09:01for that catharsis.
09:02On pilgrimage, I'd just like to sort of
09:05see, is the wind blowing any direction
09:08that I've missed,
09:08that anyone's got answers that have obfuscated me.
09:11Um, and if not,
09:13maybe we just all don't know
09:14what's going on together.
09:16I've been doing that for a while.
09:17As the Austrian Camino follows the river in,
09:26it makes its way past churches and chapels
09:28and through centuries-old villages.
09:33The pilgrims are finding their own pace
09:35as they get to know each other.
09:38Tell me a bit about you.
09:40Well, my father didn't believe in God,
09:43but allowed us to believe in God
09:45if we wanted to.
09:46But he was born into a Jewish cultural family.
09:52And then things happened, obviously,
09:53to Jewish people in the war.
09:57So I have inherited quite a lot of
10:00emotional, um, reaction to that faith.
10:07So it will probably get a bit dark
10:10for me at times.
10:12Um, but that's, I welcome that.
10:13I mean, can't shy away from these things
10:18all your life.
10:20There is a particular quality I'm learning
10:26and feeling more as I get even older
10:28that you can't shed your background.
10:32And it is very emotive when you think about what happened
10:36to a lot of the Lederers in Auschwitz and Theresienstadt
10:41where they were killed.
10:46Actor Helen Lederer was brought up in South London.
10:49I come from a mixed background.
10:53My mother came from the Isle of Wight.
10:56I don't really know her faith.
10:58I think she probably quietly believed in God,
11:00but didn't stress about church too much.
11:03I'm told I was christened.
11:05Obviously, I can't remember.
11:06I think we just occupied social norms
11:09in a kind of suburban upbringing.
11:12My father, growing up in Czechoslovakia,
11:15they would normally ski and go to Austria
11:17and the mountains, and that was his place.
11:21And so, as children, we went skiing.
11:24I can smell the mountains.
11:26I can smell the clean air.
11:29I know it will just bring back a lot of memories,
11:31so I probably will cry quietly.
11:33So, with all the pain of my family
11:37that isn't mine, but it's theirs,
11:40I want to be able to turn it into something
11:43so I get a bit of peace.
11:46I think I've always prayed.
11:49My faith is that I believe in God.
11:53Sounds a bit pious, doesn't it?
11:56God might look after me with all my worries
11:59if I pray to him.
12:01And it's worth asking, isn't it?
12:02It's worth asking.
12:03Why would you not ask?
12:06Today, the group are following the Camino
12:09to the Upper Inn Valley
12:10and the Monastery of Stans,
12:13a safe haven for pilgrims and travellers
12:15since the Middle Ages.
12:18You can tell this is a pilgrim path
12:20because, look, there are two crucifixes.
12:22Um, I think they're power lines.
12:24I know!
12:25Pilgrims used to just literally walk out their front door
12:27or, like, whatever, if they had a door,
12:30and they would just walk.
12:31This is brilliant.
12:32Without a mat.
12:33I bet.
12:34Without a mat.
12:34They would just walk.
12:35They didn't even have shoes.
12:36Yes, pilgrims used to be barefooted
12:38because it's called penitence.
12:41Penitence.
12:41Penitence, yes.
12:42But can you imagine the calluses?
12:45You say that.
12:46Maybe your foot health would be better.
12:48Yeah.
12:48Barefoot.
12:49You think your foot health would be better?
12:50100%.
12:51You get a charge from the surface that's so good for us.
12:54As a teenager, injury forced TV presenter Jeff Brazier
12:59to retire from professional football.
13:01I really look after myself.
13:04I think that's contributed to why I am spiritual as well
13:08because I see it as a survival skill
13:11to be at one with yourself, with your surroundings,
13:15to feel connected to everything and everyone.
13:19I'm exactly where I want to be right now.
13:23Exactly where I look.
13:24Staring at a big, beautiful mountain.
13:28I'm good.
13:29I'm in the best place.
13:31Let's go.
13:31Go.
13:32Go.
13:33I'm not the lollipop man.
13:35GI Jeff.
13:36GI Jeff.
13:38All right, we're on the path.
13:39Oh, now, that's worth all of it.
13:40Look at that.
13:41Yeah.
13:41It's only going to get better as well.
13:43That is glorious.
13:44It's majestic.
13:45It really is.
13:47Comedian Deliso Chaponda is more used to stand-up
13:50than long-distance walking.
13:53You're an Olympian.
13:54This must be easy for you.
13:56No, I wouldn't say easy.
13:58I mean, bear in mind, I was a sprinter and long jumper.
14:00OK.
14:01And I think walking fitness actually is very specific.
14:04Ah.
14:05So, um...
14:06But how far did you get with the sprinting and the long jumping?
14:09I did OK.
14:09Um, I competed in four different Paralympics.
14:13OK.
14:13And, um, so starting...
14:15Paralympics?
14:16Yeah.
14:16Why the Paralympics?
14:18Um, because I have an artificial leg.
14:21What?
14:21What?
14:22What?
14:22Yeah.
14:23But...
14:23Can you guess which one?
14:24I can't even see it at all.
14:27Yeah, um, so this is artificial.
14:30OK.
14:31It's the right.
14:31Um, you can tell, skinny calf.
14:33OK, got you.
14:35Got you, got you.
14:35Skinny calf.
14:36It's a baloney amputation.
14:38What is that?
14:39Oh, baloney.
14:40Yeah.
14:40I heard baloney, which is entirely...
14:43Very different.
14:44Delicious, but different.
14:45Delicious, but different.
14:46Um, it's nice sometimes to meet people who don't know you as an amputee or don't know you
14:51with someone who's disabled.
14:53Yes.
14:53Because it's just...
14:54People often have assumptions, and I always just feel like, yeah, like, my artificial leg
14:58is interesting, but it's not the most interesting thing about me.
15:01It's just part of you.
15:02Yes.
15:02In medieval times, this part of the Camino was called the Salt Road.
15:10Thousands of tons of salt were transported from a mine just east of Innsbruck to Lake Constance,
15:15and pilgrims often shared traders' routes as it was the safest way to travel.
15:20In the village of Flowerling, the group come across the Golden Eagle, an inn that dates
15:29back to the 1400s, which was also a trading point for salt.
15:34Look.
15:35The carriage carrying the salt.
15:37Yeah.
15:37The fellow at the front with the little hat on, I think he's a salt trader.
15:40There's no way that someone painted that at 1660 and it's still there.
15:43He did.
15:44Did they have paint back then?
15:45Of course they did.
15:46How do you know they had paint and paintbrushes in that?
15:49Not that long ago, they did.
15:50We do know there's somebody with a hat.
15:51It's over 406 years old.
15:53And they're transporting the salt, and of course, salt preserves food.
15:57Because they had no refrigeration.
15:59No refrigeration.
16:00They might have been paintbrushes.
16:01This was the currency.
16:02This is the white gold is what they had to do to earn a living.
16:06So salt is everything.
16:08So in essence, the pilgrims' trail, the salt trail all interacted.
16:11Yep.
16:12Do you know what I love, though?
16:13One of the calls to a Christian life is to be the salt of the earth.
16:16Yes.
16:17Which I've always taken as to be, like, it adds flavour.
16:21I just love that connection, that it is...
16:23Honourable.
16:23Bissante.
16:24OK, so the map says we go that way.
16:27Let's follow you, then.
16:29I still don't believe that I was painted in 1660.
16:32No one's ever going to convince me.
16:33They had painters.
16:34Paint loss.
16:35It's mad.
16:36The inn valley is encased on both sides by the Alps.
16:42And the pilgrim path starts climbing to higher ground.
16:46This has completely changed, hasn't it?
16:49Yes.
16:49This feels completely different.
16:50Do you think they create the path of the quickest possible route?
16:53Yeah.
16:54Unless a pilgrim really wants to give themselves a hard time.
16:59By mid-afternoon, the pilgrims have been on the road four hours.
17:05My legs are actually feeling it now.
17:07Yeah.
17:08At the beginning, I was all like, oh, I could do this all day.
17:11Now I'm like, I could do this for one more hour.
17:13Yes.
17:13We are nearly there, to be honest.
17:15Oh, we?
17:15Oh, we are?
17:15Yeah, Stam's Monastery.
17:17We're probably about 3, 4K away.
17:19You can smell the nature, can't you?
17:21Is that what we call what I'm smelling?
17:24I did have a quick look at Harry's shovel.
17:26My shovel?
17:26Oh, you've got like a trowel.
17:28To bury your poop.
17:29Yeah.
17:29No, you can't do that.
17:30You've got to have a bag it so you can scoop it into the bag.
17:33You can't leave it.
17:34Why can't you leave it there?
17:35I think it's to do with the proteins in human poo.
17:38There's no way I'm carrying my poo around.
17:39I'm being one with nature.
17:41The Traitors winner Harry Clark comes from a family of five children and lives at home
17:47with his parents.
17:49Even my mum would tell you I'm the smartest, dumbest person ever.
17:53I'm just wired backwards and I find interest in things that many people don't.
17:58Cheers, mum.
17:59Lemon drizzle cake.
18:00I've got a religious tattoo which is just a cross on my hand so I'm always wearing my faith
18:07on me at all times.
18:08And it was also an excuse for my mum to let me get tattoos because she would have hated
18:13my tattoos otherwise.
18:15That's true as well, you know.
18:18Faith was around since I was born.
18:20I was baptised.
18:22I ought to served in church.
18:23I played the violin in church with my sister.
18:26All my family are Catholic.
18:27But I just always wanted to be a professional boxer or a professional football player.
18:32And that was it.
18:32I wanted to do nothing else for my life.
18:34Oh, both of them.
18:35Then my granddad who served in the forces, he said to me, you realise that you can do both
18:40in the army and still get paid.
18:42I was like, this sounds like the perfect plan.
18:45And then I had a six-year going on, seven-year career in the army.
18:50Harry finished a lance corporal and a trained aviation technician.
18:55Because I was away from my family, I started praying completely differently.
18:59Instead of, oh, I need this, it was more, guide me through this and thank you for my family
19:05and make sure they're OK because I'm away from home.
19:08I just feel like I'm not as strong in my faith as I was when I was, like, 10 or 11 or 16.
19:14So I'm more excited to try and reconnect my faith fully.
19:18And that's what I'm using the pilgrimage for.
19:25It's easy to tell which one the monastery is because it's the biggest building there.
19:29And real monks will be in there, which is going to be amazing.
19:32I've actually never met a monk in real life. Have you?
19:35No, never. Have you, Joe?
19:36Never knowingly.
19:39Isn't there a movie about a monk?
19:40Yeah, the ones that I've seen, he has that orange sort of thing.
19:43A Shaolin monk?
19:44I'm not even joking. There's videos of him.
19:46They have no pain and they have, like, balls of steel.
19:49Literally.
19:53Founded in 1273, the Cistercian Monastery of Stams
19:57still offers refuge and hospitality to passing pilgrims.
20:01Go, go, go, go, go.
20:03Into the monastery we go.
20:04Yeah.
20:05Monks, are you ready?
20:10Harry, Jay and Helen have asked to meet one of the monks,
20:14Brother Franz, in the monastery's basilica.
20:18Oh, goodness me, it's huge.
20:21I've never seen anything like this, ever.
20:25This is insane.
20:27We've not even got to the main part yet.
20:30Well, the altar.
20:31Sounds of human.
20:33This might be our monk.
20:34I'm so excited we're meeting a monk.
20:35So exciting.
20:37Like a monk in real life?
20:38Yes, absolutely.
20:40Oh, my gosh.
20:40Oh, my goodness, it's a monk.
20:43Hello.
20:43Hello.
20:44Hello.
20:45Good evening.
20:46Good evening.
20:47Oh, goodness.
20:48You made, you made this.
20:55Oh, danke schön.
20:57Shall we take?
20:58Yeah.
20:58We take?
20:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:00I want a bit of the chocolate one.
21:01Oh, I'll take another piece.
21:03I want to ask a question, but my mouth is full of bread.
21:07How long have you been a monk?
21:1135 years.
21:12This is amazing.
21:14I need to let him know how cool this is, that we've met a monk.
21:16I need to ask this question, do you have superpowers?
21:19Because all the monks I've seen, they can bear, like, unbearable pain and stuff like that.
21:25So can you do that?
21:26And can you do that?
21:27Like, Gingang Ghoul is made out of titanium and stuff.
21:29No, no.
21:30Does he have superpowers?
21:31No, no, no.
21:32Will let him know how cool he is?
21:33No, no, no.
21:34Tell him why he's really cool.
21:35No superpowers.
21:35No, no, no.
21:36We're all just people.
21:38We're all just people.
21:39We're just people with mistakes like all the others.
21:43And we're all just the same.
21:46Mm-hmm.
21:47And we're not being judged by what we are, but what we've been given.
21:55Yeah, well, I don't know if he's got a partner as well.
21:57Do you want to ask him?
21:57Maybe not ask that.
21:58Maybe not ask that.
21:58Maybe you should, yeah.
22:01I don't know if monks, like, they have partners.
22:03You can ask that.
22:03Yeah.
22:04Yeah.
22:04So in your life, are you allowed, like a partner, do you have, say, a wife or a husband?
22:10Are you allowed to do that when you're a monk?
22:12Do you feel like you've lived a happy and full life, devoting yourself to your God?
22:31Do you feel like you've lived a happy and full life, devoting yourself to your friends?
22:47Good answer.
22:48Can we ask him for a hug, can I hug him?
23:01Oh, you're not allowed.
23:03Oh, you're allowed?
23:04Yes.
23:05We're allowed to hug?
23:06Huh?
23:07I can hug you.
23:08He's given a monk a hug.
23:09Oh, my gosh.
23:10It's the coolest thing ever.
23:11Oh.
23:12It's a good hugger as well.
23:13Oh, thank you so much.
23:15Thank you very much for having us.
23:16No, thank you.
23:17Yeah.
23:18Harry, you're encouraging.
23:19I can't believe I just hugged a monk, but how mad.
23:20You did.
23:21Did we take all the bread?
23:22Did we clean him out?
23:23Yeah.
23:24Yeah.
23:25Harry, you're encouraging.
23:26I can't believe I just hugged a monk, but how mad.
23:27You did.
23:28Did we take all the bread?
23:30Did we clean him out?
23:31We left one or two, I think.
23:37Although brought up Catholic, Jay is now agnostic.
23:41I found it a little bit more difficult than I thought I would.
23:44I hoped that I would find something here that might reignite some love that I had for being
23:50in a church, but I don't think that this particular evening has been where I was going to find it.
23:57The pilgrims celebrate the end of their first day at the Abbey's Cafe.
24:04So, actually, I just really like you all.
24:05Yay!
24:06And so, I think, you know, when you come into a new group and you just think, okay, you just
24:09kind of figure out how you're going to fit in with that, but I just, I just really enjoyed
24:13everybody.
24:14Good.
24:15So, we should cheers with all our monk beers.
24:16I think.
24:17Come on.
24:18To your herbal.
24:19To your herbal.
24:20That's not quite a beer.
24:21Cheers.
24:22It's the same colour as a beer.
24:23Cheers.
24:24Cheers.
24:25Cheers.
24:26Cheers.
24:27Cheers.
24:28Cheers.
24:29Cheers.
24:30Cheers.
24:31Cheers.
24:32Cheers.
24:33Cheers.
24:34Like most pilgrims who walk the Austrian Camino.
24:37Good morning.
24:38Hi.
24:39The group have stayed overnight in a local guest house.
24:42Morning, squad.
24:43Hello.
24:44Oh, that looks nice.
24:45Yeah, let's get that stretch on.
24:48What are you doing when you get to your room?
24:51Are you just falling asleep like I am?
24:53Yeah.
24:54Fully clothed.
24:55Yeah.
24:56Oh, that's good.
24:57Yeah, a little twist.
24:58The pilgrims have another long day ahead of them.
25:01So, now we're ready.
25:02Ready to go again.
25:03I feel super pumped.
25:05Do you feel fresh?
25:06I do.
25:07Good.
25:08Still following the Inn Valley, they set out from the village of Imsterau towards Cronberg Convent,
25:14where they'll spend the night.
25:16It's very easy to kind of fall into the beauty of this whole place.
25:20I feel like we're spoiled.
25:22Let's get to the point now where I look at the mountains and it's like, oh, that looks cool.
25:25Instead of, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
25:27Still takes my breath away.
25:29The Camino has many shrines and small chapels dotted along the route.
25:34It's not just Jesus.
25:35There's a dude next to him, a saint maybe.
25:38Harry, help us out.
25:40That's probably Mother Mary on the left.
25:42Do you know what's so cool though?
25:43That's probably all handcrafted from wood.
25:46And obviously Jesus was a carpenter.
25:47So that was his everyday life.
25:48I actually heard a rumor he was not a carpenter and he was a stonemason.
25:51Really?
25:52Because there actually weren't that many trees around.
25:53Has anyone ever noticed Jesus is often painted with like a solid six-pack?
25:56No.
25:57No.
25:58And I remember asking the priest like, why, you know, is he so buff?
26:01He's a perfect guy.
26:02But the answer was because, yeah, he probably was.
26:04Imagine, you know, you're carrying rocks and chiseling things out.
26:06Like, he probably was pretty buff.
26:08There's a line from a Leonard Cohen song, which was,
26:11Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water.
26:13And the idea was, Jesus was whatever the people he was with.
26:17So when he was with the sailors, he was a sailor.
26:20And the miracle was one they would appreciate, you know.
26:23So Jesus is the image of God, is that right?
26:27And he's also an individual.
26:29It's the most varied interpretation in the different denominations.
26:32If you ask a Presbyterian or a Catholic or a Mormon what son of God means,
26:38is it interpreted very differently?
26:39Absolutely.
26:40Is it metaphorical?
26:41Is it literal?
26:42Can I give you my interpretation?
26:43Yes.
26:44I think it would be quite informed, so let's have it.
26:46Okay.
26:47So God is like just this bigger-than-life person,
26:50probably too big for any of us to understand.
26:52So the best way for him to connect with us was to send someone,
26:56a person, his son, that was like him,
26:58to show what God would be like in human form.
27:01And that's who Jesus was.
27:03Such a good explanation.
27:04I was going to say that's perfect,
27:05because I always love the interpretation that we're all ants,
27:08and it's an overpower.
27:09Our brains physically doesn't have the capacity
27:11to understand why we're here or our purpose.
27:13Can I upgrade us to ladybirds?
27:15Ladybirds.
27:16No, if you want to.
27:17I don't want to be an ant.
27:18You don't want to be an ant.
27:19Ants or ladybirds?
27:20I'd rather be a ladybird.
27:21I wouldn't mind.
27:22I think ant's quite cool.
27:23But why ladybirds?
27:24Is it better than an ant?
27:25It just wants it to be a bit more pizzazz.
27:28The pilgrim path meanders upwards into the tree line.
27:36I don't know if it's just because, you know,
27:39I was an athlete for so many years.
27:40Like, I have to move.
27:41Yes.
27:42Every single day.
27:43To the point where I am just in a foul mood if I don't.
27:46Well, I think I need to do it more,
27:49because, like, let's say I have writer's block.
27:51Yes.
27:52I found if I go for a walk and then I come back home,
27:55I'll have an idea.
27:56Yes.
27:57Whoa.
27:58That one's slippy.
27:59There.
28:00Be careful.
28:02Appreciate it.
28:03Oh, Lord.
28:04So, you said that you are currently on a search for faith.
28:08Yes.
28:09So, I have never lost my faith in God.
28:12I feel the presence of God.
28:14But what I'm looking for is the community slash religion slash practice
28:20which persuades me.
28:22So, for example...
28:23So, you're looking for a home religion rather than faith?
28:26Yes.
28:27Yes.
28:28Deliso Chaponda is a stand-up comedian.
28:31I grew up in 14 different countries.
28:34I was born in Zambia because my dad was a refugee from Malawi.
28:40Citizen of nowhere was what I thought of myself as for many years.
28:44But I'm starting to think of myself now as citizen of everywhere.
28:49My family was religious.
28:52My mother was Catholic.
28:56My father was Protestant.
28:59Presbyterian, I'm not sure.
29:01Essentially, because we were traveling so much, we went to whatever church was nearest.
29:07But it was always very important.
29:09At 17, he was introduced to the Baha'i faith.
29:14The core tenets of the Baha'i faith is that it's independent investigation of truth.
29:21And also, Baha'is see all the different manifestations of God.
29:25The different prophets, be it Jesus, Muhammad, they see them all as equal.
29:32They're different ways to the truth.
29:35There was something about it which really resonated with me.
29:40It's just, I feel weird saying I'm specifically this faith or that faith,
29:45because I kind of feel like I'm no faith and all faiths.
29:50Deliso was a student when he first saw stand-up comedy.
29:54It very much was a, this is why God has put me on earth kind of moment.
29:59And from that point, there was nothing else I could be.
30:03People say stuff like, I miss the good old days.
30:05The good old days were terrible.
30:06We've got amazing stuff.
30:07We've got Wi-Fi.
30:08We've got rights.
30:12Women can vote.
30:14I'm black.
30:17200 years ago, this would have been an auction.
30:19I definitely think that the gifts which I was given have a purpose.
30:30So pilgrimage, I am hoping, is going to help me find some definition.
30:35I know that I'm close to Baha'i.
30:38I know I'm close to Quaker.
30:40I know I'm close to Unitarian, but I'm not anything yet.
30:44And maybe by the end of pilgrimage, I'll be able to say this is what I am.
30:49The group make a short detour above the Inn Valley, to the village of Obsars and the Church of St Fidgil.
30:59Built in around 1500, it's famous for its early pilgrim graffiti.
31:05Amazing.
31:07Yes.
31:10All right, here we go.
31:12Mmm.
31:15Oh, my days.
31:19Absolutely.
31:21It's astonishing.
31:22You can see the years that they were here.
31:241593.
31:26They're all so different.
31:27Oh.
31:28Some of them are really long letters, and then some of them just people's names.
31:31Like, it's the kind of thing I would write.
31:33Like, my kind of skill level.
31:34It's not fancy.
31:35Like, in your book at school?
31:36Yeah.
31:37And just, it's...
31:38Yeah, I just feel like it's a lot more relatable than I was expecting.
31:41A 17th century painting is thought to be of three ancient rain givers and fertility goddesses.
31:48It's said women would come to the chapel to pray for their own fertility, mixing a pagan rite with Christianity.
31:57What is paganism?
31:58Well, paganism predates the Catholic Church.
32:01It was, I guess, a religion that was a lot more connected to, like, nature and the seasons.
32:06And I think it's pretty awesome that it still remained here up in this small mountain town and snuck through with the Catholic Church and coexisted right up until today.
32:15I think it happens a lot, though, because, like, in a lot of African countries, when, like, the missionaries brought the Christian faith, it kind of mixes with the current faith.
32:27It melds.
32:28So, like, for example, in Malawi, where I'm from, there's a traditional healer, like a witch doctor you can go see, and he's got totems and things which you expect in ancestral worship.
32:40But he also has the Virgin Mary.
32:41I think it's cool.
32:42I like that they're flexible.
32:44I think those are women's names.
32:46There's Margarita.
32:47Christina.
32:48Sophia.
32:49Looks like these are all nuns, and then you see the one with the cape.
32:51Sophia.
32:52Yeah.
32:53She's probably, like, Mother Superior.
32:54Amazing.
32:55It's cool to know that pilgrims used to be like us.
32:57They're in a church drawing graffiti.
32:59Just not saying I would do that.
33:00Wink, wink.
33:01No.
33:02But to know that they wanted to leave their mark two to mark their pilgrimage, they would have just been as cool as us.
33:09Yeah.
33:11Great.
33:12Oh, my God.
33:13Oh, my God.
33:14It's getting late in the day, and the pilgrims need to get back on the path.
33:17Oh, that was amazing.
33:19Did you top up your water?
33:20Yeah, I'm refreshed.
33:21Let's go.
33:25They have to get to their overnight accommodation at Cronberg Convent, run by the Sisters of Mercy.
33:32So you know how people think that, okay, as soon as a man puts on a collar, he suddenly becomes very attractive to women?
33:38Yes.
33:39Is it the same with nuns?
33:40Yes.
33:41Really?
33:42Yes.
33:43It really depends on the nun.
33:44Okay.
33:45It depends on the nun.
33:46Yeah.
33:47It depends on the nun.
33:48But it's forbidden.
33:49Okay, gotcha.
33:50It's also the fantasy of this person who has given up men.
33:53And you're the one.
33:54Oh, you.
33:55I can't.
33:56Resist.
33:57Yes.
33:58See, I do get this.
33:59Yes.
34:00Because my husband asked me out 27 times before I said yes.
34:04But do you know what changed my mind?
34:05What changed your mind?
34:06He stopped asking.
34:07He stopped asking.
34:08Fantastic.
34:09And in the end, I asked him it.
34:11Wonderful.
34:12Stephanie Reid is a world champion and three-time Paralympic medallist.
34:19Recently retired, she still trains regularly with Paralympian husband Brent Lakatos.
34:25I've had an amazing career as an athlete.
34:28I have loved it.
34:29I have loved every moment of it.
34:31Raised in Canada by her British parents, Steph became an amputee when she was still a teen.
34:38I was in a boating accident when I was 15.
34:43The driver had no idea that I was in the water.
34:47And I remember the ridge of the boat as it passed over top.
34:54And then it was just darkness.
34:59And so you're 15 in an ambulance and just thinking, I might die.
35:06And I am terrified.
35:08And that was probably the first time that I prayed.
35:12And I just said, God, if you could please just save me.
35:20The problem was when I eventually woke up from surgery to then be told that your leg has been amputated below the knee.
35:31I wanted to be an international rugby superstar.
35:38And I was angry and devastated because I just thought, oh, what is the point, God?
35:44I think what I learned most about that period is that it is okay to live with a faith that has tension.
35:54Because I knew, without doubt, God saved my life that day.
36:03And then, in university, I was introduced to my first blade.
36:07And that's when I thought, oh, I wonder, I wonder how fast I could still run.
36:16I would describe myself as a Christian.
36:19I am trying to follow the example of Jesus.
36:25But it doesn't mean that life doesn't get really hard or that I don't still have a lot of questions.
36:31I have never done a pilgrimage.
36:34And it's scary because, you know, thoughts are going to come up.
36:37But they have to come up.
36:39Otherwise, you're never going to move on and think about newer or better things.
36:47And there it is.
36:48There it is.
36:49Fantastic.
36:50I'm surprised they let boys stay there.
36:52I'm expecting to step on the ground and my feet burst into flames.
36:55Well, maybe you can sleep outside.
36:57Maybe it's something like that.
36:59Because I'm like, men shouldn't be in a nunnery.
37:01I'm quite pumped.
37:02Because I feel like my only, like, actual interpretation of a nunnery is from Sound of Music.
37:06Yes, and Sister Act.
37:07Oh, yes.
37:08It's like, it's always singing.
37:09I've not seen either.
37:10I want some singing.
37:11Yeah.
37:12And I hope it is all true.
37:16There is a nun.
37:18Hello.
37:19Hello.
37:20Welcome.
37:21Hi.
37:22It's very nice to welcome you here.
37:26Thank you, thank you, thank you.
37:27Thank you for having us.
37:28I hope you are well.
37:29My name is Sister Natania Maria, and I'm a Sister of Mercy.
37:33Are you tired?
37:34No.
37:35No.
37:36I was going to say yes.
37:37A couple more tired than others.
37:39The convent used to belong to the Franciscan Sisters of Helene.
37:43But when they died out, the Sisters of Mercy stepped in,
37:46and now run it as a spiritual retreat and a rest stop for pilgrims.
37:52This is the pilgrim church.
37:54Ooh.
37:55Wow.
37:56It dates back to the 18th century.
37:59And this is the fountain.
38:02The water comes directly from the mountains.
38:06Do you know Father Kneipp?
38:09He is very famous for his water treatments.
38:13Sebastian Kneipp was a German Catholic priest born in 1821,
38:20who promoted the positive effects of cold water on blood circulation
38:24and the nervous system.
38:26Now Kneipp water features are found throughout Austria and Central Europe,
38:31especially in the mountains.
38:33The nuns have recently built a foot bath of their own.
38:37Oh, with the roses.
38:39So beautiful.
38:40This is amazing.
38:41The water's really cold.
38:42It is.
38:43It's really cold.
38:44Yes.
38:45Do people wear swimming costumes?
38:46No, no.
38:47They put their trousers up and then walk in the water.
38:52So, if you would like to try it.
38:54Are you going to do it with us?
38:55Ah, okay.
38:56You've got a part of the team.
38:59Of course.
39:00Do we have to go from here?
39:02Yes, we have to go from here and we have to go...
39:04It's refreshing.
39:11Oh, Mother Mary.
39:13Oh, yoi, yoi, yoi, yoi, yoi, yoi, yoi.
39:18This is cold.
39:21Whoa.
39:22Oh, nice.
39:25Are we sure this is refreshing?
39:27Because right now I'm questioning my choices.
39:30Is it time to come out now?
39:31Yes, we go.
39:32I'll follow you, sister.
39:35Oh, I'm in pain.
39:37Unlike most of the pilgrims, presenter Geoff Brazier is a big fan of cold water.
39:46For me, ice baths are good because it's the discipline of being able to say,
39:51I'm going to do something even though it's horrible and hard and uncomfortable.
39:58The fact that I can withstand that for a couple of minutes and then feel great afterwards,
40:04there's always such a payoff.
40:06Ice baths, meditation, breath work.
40:10They're all kind of groups in the same bracket for me in that these are things that we do to keep ourselves in touch with ourselves.
40:20Geoff went to Catholic schools and some of his childhood was spent in foster care.
40:25When your life is in relative crisis and that seems to be the norm, then it's going to take something a little bit stronger than a hymn and a piece of bread and a sip of whatever it was that was in that cup to actually make me feel like actually someone's got me.
40:46When he was 23, Geoff met reality TV star Jade Goody and they had two boys, Bobby and Freddie.
40:54Jade went public with her diagnosis of cervical cancer and her death at only 27 years old made national headlines.
41:04When the boys lost their mum, I'd say I was already spiritual to a degree, so I knew I could protect myself by adopting certain routines and habits into my day.
41:15Things that we associate with being spiritual, it's like, right, what's good for you?
41:20What's going to help you cope?
41:21What's going to help you to be at your best?
41:24Because you need to fill your cup so you can look after these kids.
41:30I've landed at a place where I feel like God is within all of us and that God is love.
41:36That fits for me right now.
41:38The universe, I feel, is what guides me.
41:40I feel like the universe just chucks whatever I need at me whenever I need it.
41:45But, you know, some people could very easily just swap the word universe for God and for them that's like, that fits.
41:53It depends on what story you believed in, really.
41:56But are they all just stories?
41:58Lovely.
42:03So, please come in.
42:06Sister Natania takes the pilgrims to their accommodation.
42:10We have three double rooms and one single room.
42:14So...
42:15So, there are three double rooms, one single.
42:18I genuinely don't mind.
42:19What...
42:20What...
42:21Steph?
42:22I love sleepovers, so I'm...
42:25I'll take it.
42:26It's so against my nature.
42:28What are you going to take?
42:29If you're sure, I'll take the single room.
42:31Unless you want it, in which case...
42:32No, you want a single room.
42:33I'll take it.
42:34I'll take it.
42:35I feel so special.
42:36This is for you.
42:37Thank you so much.
42:39Yes.
42:40The pilgrims go to find their rooms.
42:43Oh!
42:44That's more intimate than I predicted.
42:48I thought it was two beds.
42:50Hey, big spoon or little spoon?
42:51What do you want?
42:52No, I think we're going to move this little thing in between and have it like a twin.
42:57But I brought his matching pyjamas.
43:00Harry is a pilgrim in heaven.
43:02There is no way.
43:03Jeff and I have got a double bed in the room.
43:06I mean, I'm not complaining, so I'm about to sleep with Jeff Brazier.
43:08But I want to see if Jay and Delisso have a double bed.
43:14There you go.
43:15Much safer.
43:16Yeah, yeah.
43:17Much safer.
43:18Jay!
43:20Do you guys have two single beds?
43:22Yeah.
43:23Me and Jeff have got a double bed.
43:24Woo!
43:25I'm not even joking.
43:26Give the people what they want.
43:27Mate, can I come here?
43:28Yeah, yeah, go on.
43:29You've got like a whole lounge.
43:30What have you got?
43:31What's going on here?
43:32Meanwhile, Nellifer is in solitary.
43:35I've got my little writing desk.
43:37Oh, this is lovely.
43:38I feel like you're living the nun life.
43:40This is good, isn't it?
43:41Yeah.
43:42So you have the single room, and I want you to enjoy every moment of it.
43:48Is that the sound of your teeth getting together?
43:50I know.
43:51I'm being so genuine.
43:52Show us.
43:53Show us the room.
43:54Have you seen ours?
43:55Because ours is quite superior, I have to say.
43:57So I'm quite pleased with ours.
43:59It's the pilgrim's second evening together, and they want to understand more about Deliso's
44:11faith.
44:13When I was born, I was Christian, and I was extremely Christian, in that I talked to God, not even
44:22praying.
44:23And then when I was 17, I was invited to a Baha'i deepening, by a very attractive girl.
44:30So I've got to say that.
44:31The only reason I agreed was because she was hot.
44:34It wasn't actually a search for faith.
44:37There's a saying, flirt to convert.
44:39Flirt to convert!
44:40Steph, that seems like you've done it a few times.
44:43But what she invited to me was amazing, because Baha'is believe that the greatest truth
44:47is the search for truth, the independent search for truth.
44:50They believe in all the prophets, the founders of the great religions, but they're equal.
44:54It's like, if there's a mountain, truth is at the top.
44:58There are many ways to get to the top.
45:02Right.
45:03That's the Christian way.
45:04That's the Muslim way.
45:05That's the Baha'i way.
45:07But you're all trying to reach the truth, and prophets are almost just like guides, and
45:13it's kind of like breadcrumbs to lead you to the truth.
45:17And I'm reading all the breadcrumbs and trying to figure it out.
45:21Because right now, I wouldn't necessarily define myself as a Baha'i, because I'm still
45:26looking, I'm still questioning, but I've not yet belonged.
45:30Is it lonely?
45:32No, because I would almost say, like, my faith is my solace, right?
45:36So, I still get fully fulfilled.
45:39Like, I will read privately religious texts and think about it.
45:43I love faith where it feels like it's opening up bits of me.
45:47Beautiful.
45:48Do you know what I mean?
45:49It's welcoming you.
45:50It's welcoming me, and it's embracing me.
45:52So, I often feel in conflict with my faith.
45:56So, I don't know how to fit in, and it kills me.
45:59Like, it really bothers me inside.
46:01So, I just, I think, I don't mean to be cynical, and I'll have loving this dinner.
46:07I really, really am.
46:08What's your thing?
46:11That's the thing.
46:12On this table sits the Abrahamic faiths, those of us who believe in them and those of us who don't.
46:17We have fought wars.
46:18We have killed.
46:19We have maimed.
46:20We've done terrible things to one another in the name of faith.
46:23And so, I feel that I carry that.
46:26What's done in my name, in the name of my faith, I feel like I carry that.
46:31I feel responsible for it.
46:33I have a question.
46:34Do you feel these terrible things done in the name of faith were the intention of the faith or perversion of the faith?
46:41I don't think it matters.
46:43Do you think Christ is a fan of people killing in his name?
46:47Do you think Muhammad is a fan of people killing in his name?
46:50My point is, I think it's humans get this beautiful thing, which is faith, which is messages of love.
46:58But we're still humans and there's still politics and there's still wanting to conquer each other.
47:03No, Jeff has messages.
47:04Jeff has no faith.
47:05He has messages of tolerance.
47:06Faith doesn't determine that, right?
47:08And sometimes...
47:09That's not what I said either.
47:10No, I know, but...
47:11I would say that...
47:12I'm getting really anxious now, but...
47:13Do you think...
47:14Which is fine.
47:15We go to all the emotional places, right?
47:16We're all in this together, don't worry.
47:17We can go to...
47:18We can go to joy.
47:19We can go to discomfort.
47:20How can any of us not feel as though terrible things have been done in our name?
47:29Look, the point is, it's not the vibe for dinner.
47:32It does hurt when I hear you talk about Christian faith and the awful things that have been done.
47:38Because awful things have been done.
47:40But I don't think that that is because of Jesus.
47:43Because if you look at that message, his message was love.
47:47Yeah.
47:48We've heard of that.
47:49And part of the Christian faith is actually that people are broken.
47:53Every single one of us is broken.
47:56And I just think so many of these messages have been twisted by us.
48:01And actually, it's about getting back to what did these texts say?
48:05Hmm.
48:08I am a devoted Muslim, but with huge caveats.
48:15And my faith is tied to not my homeland, because my homeland is here in Britain, but my birthland, where I was born in Kabul in Afghanistan, where currently a woman speaking in public is illegal.
48:30To hear a woman's voice is illegal.
48:34And the men who enforce this do it because of Islam.
48:39I can't explain to you how difficult it is to both love something and fear it.
48:45And who I am is very confusing.
48:47An Emmy award-winning journalist, Nella Farhadayat and her family, came to the UK as refugees when she was seven years old.
48:57They settled in London.
48:59I don't allow people, or even an institution as old as Islam, to tell me what I can and can't do.
49:09What is wrong with finding beauty in parts of Islam, but not all of it?
49:14How could anyone tell me that I don't see myself reflected in Islam?
49:19Some might call me a bad Muslim, and others might say that I am a modern one.
49:24And I don't really care, because it's on my terms. I decide it, and there's power in that.
49:33At Kronberg, it's time for the pilgrims to bed down with their new roomies.
49:37I get mad, bedhead bad. I'm lucky I cut it short last time. But it just goes mad.
49:45We always must go, like, fluffable, wouldn't it? Or you just wake up like that.
49:49Sometimes it's the same.
49:51Really?
49:53Into my lovely, clean, nunnery duvet.
49:58Everything there, everything in place, because I'm sharing.
50:02I'm with you.
50:07I've got my hat.
50:09And I'm going to do my reading before I go to sleep, and then pass up.
50:14Looks like you're going to do a heist.
50:18Good night, son.
50:19Night-night.
50:28It's going to be another hot day on the Austrian Camino.
50:32But before the pilgrims leave Kronberg, Steph has asked to meet Sister Natanya.
50:39Since retiring from athletics, Steph is having to focus on some difficult life decisions.
50:45So, the thing that I am struggling with at the moment, I'm married, I've been married for 16 years, and it's wonderful.
50:54And, you know, I'm the age now, I'm 39, and we're kind of getting to that decision of, are we going to have kids, or are we not?
51:02I'm just scared.
51:03I'm going to look back and possibly regret the decision to have said no to things that are so normal and expected from society.
51:12You will feel it in your heart.
51:17You need some trust.
51:20And I always say, yes, I have the possibility to decide what I will do and how I organize my life.
51:31But in the end, I trust in God, that he is with me, and, yeah, he helps me.
51:40You know, one month ago, I had my perpetual profession.
51:45That means I stay my long life with our community.
51:50And before, there were a lot of doubts, and I was not sure if I really go this way.
51:59And then, I was in silence for 30 days, and I was only in relationship with God.
52:06There was nothing else.
52:09I decide, okay, Jesus, you called me, and I will follow you.
52:14I will jump into the deep water. I don't know. I try to swim.
52:21I like your style.
52:24I think watching you and just the example and the life that you're living has really just given me the courage to think,
52:31I don't need to do life on anyone else's terms. I don't need anyone else's affirmation.
52:36I just need God's, not even approval. I just want him walking beside me.
52:40And if I have that, it doesn't matter what my life looks like to anyone else.
52:46And I just want to thank you for that. May I give you a hug?
52:50Of course.
52:53I wish you all the best stuff. God bless you.
52:57That is now a lot to digest.
53:00I want to experience everything life has to offer.
53:04I feel like I had that moment as a 15-year-old where I thought my life was going to be over much sooner than I expected.
53:22And I made a vow in that moment that never again would I miss out on an opportunity.
53:27I was so thankful to still be alive and I would live every moment with an element of that thankfulness.
53:33I'm not walking out of here thinking, oh, I know the answer, but at least I know no matter what happens,
53:38I will make a better decision because I can see that much more clearly.
53:47It's time for the pilgrims to continue on the Camino.
53:50Thank you for everything.
53:52Thank you very much.
53:53All the best for you.
53:54All the best.
53:55At this point in pilgrimage, which is still very early on, I'm not expecting answers or solutions
54:02because a lot of the stuff I'm struggling with is so big.
54:07Have a good way.
54:09Have a good Camino.
54:10And I almost feel like I'll be able to fully commit to religion when I get hit by a thunderbolt of emotion.
54:16Can I just say, yeah, I've now hugged a monk and a nun.
54:20Yes, you have, Harry.
54:21I'm literally on a hugging spring.
54:22You and a high.
54:23Next up, a vicar.
54:24How would you compare the two experiences?
54:27Very different, actually.
54:28Very different.
54:29Very different.
54:30The next stage of the pilgrims' journey will take them out of the Inn Valley and higher into the Alps,
54:37into the Arlberg region where the highest peak is almost 3,000 metres.
54:42Where are we going?
54:43Up.
54:44Oh, yes.
54:45It's cold.
54:46Today, they're heading up to the famous ski village of St Anton.
54:52To get there, a seven-kilometre demanding and undulating pilgrim path.
54:58Perilous path.
54:59Perilous path.
55:00Take it.
55:01OK.
55:02How's this up-suiting you, Helen?
55:03It's suiting me in a minimal sort of way.
55:07I'm just thinking about one foot in front of the other and having sight of your boots.
55:14Oh, I thought you were going to say something else.
55:16Ha!
55:17Yeah.
55:18This is like proper pilgrimage path, isn't it?
55:21This is some of the hardest walking we've done so far, I'd say.
55:24Yeah.
55:25Oh, my Lord.
55:26Oh, God.
55:27I think it's sometimes good not to think ahead.
55:30It's the biggest hill I've tackled probably since I was born.
55:36Yeah.
55:37I think once we hit a certain altitude, the seatbelt sign turns off when we serve peanuts.
55:41Oh.
55:42Aw.
55:44The pilgrims come across an open chapel.
55:48That is wicked, isn't it?
55:50Does anyone want a moment?
55:51I'm good.
55:52I might do.
55:53I'm good.
55:54Good?
55:55Come on in.
55:56Do it.
55:57Are we walking more?
55:58You can make a start if you want.
55:59I'm going really slow.
56:00Yeah.
56:01So I can start and then everyone will overtake me.
56:03Okay.
56:04We'll catch you up.
56:05He's coming up slowly.
56:09One step at a time.
56:16When I pray, I do it very solo-y, if that makes sense.
56:22I'm always by myself.
56:24The pilgrimage to me now is like, I don't know how to explain it.
56:29It's a feeling like I always should have been doing this.
56:32Like I'm meant to be here, if that makes sense.
56:34A sense of belonging.
56:36Can I have a moment, quick, on my once?
56:45The Camino soon opens onto Alpine Meadow.
56:48Oh, do you think those are gentians?
56:51Edelweiss?
56:52Oh, no, they're...
56:53Edelweiss?
56:54That's Switzerland, isn't it?
56:55Probably.
56:57I'm exhausted, but I'm going one step at a time.
57:01And I know I'll get there, but, yeah.
57:03My favourite part of this pilgrimage is the eating and chatting.
57:08I think I'm a Last Supper kind of person.
57:10I'm not a, you know, path to Gethsemane kind of person.
57:16Oh, look.
57:17Lovely, that.
57:18Lovely.
57:19I never knew Usher was this sick, you know.
57:21Oh, wow.
57:22This is gorgeous.
57:23The path starts to traverse above St Anton, before descending into the village.
57:31Oh, my goodness, are we really here?
57:34Yeah, you're just bones aching to sit down.
57:35Are you sure you promised?
57:36Yeah, I promise.
57:37Harry, you've still got my bag.
57:39Harry's still got my bag.
57:40Harry's such a gentleman.
57:42Do you think you could fit my bag on as well?
57:44I probably could to be fair.
57:45I bet you could.
57:46This town is beautiful, though.
57:49I can't believe it.
57:50This one, do you think?
57:51Yeah.
57:52Sit at the head.
57:53Sit at the head.
57:54I will, then.
57:55Geoff, I will.
57:57Oh.
57:58Wow.
57:59Feels good, doesn't it?
58:00Yeah.
58:01I've got pain on the bottom of my feet, which is interesting.
58:03If you want me to get a thumb in there, I'm your guy.
58:05Oh, um, yes.
58:07No, no, no, I'm not even joking.
58:08Are you serious?
58:09Yeah, yeah, swear.
58:10I mean, that's good.
58:11So, my hands.
58:12OK, let's see where you've got any.
58:14Oh, my gosh.
58:15Oh, my gosh.
58:18I picked the right seat.
58:20You did.
58:22Cheers, everyone.
58:23Cheers.
58:24Well done.
58:25We are a team.
58:26We're pilgrims.
58:27I feel like I was staring at everyone.
58:28Just do this all night.
58:31Next time.
58:32This is the highest we've been.
58:33Yeah.
58:34Probably the highest I've ever been.
58:35The pilgrims tackle the formidable Austrian Alps.
58:38I'm really scared about this bit.
58:40If you go down, we go down together.
58:41I'll do it on my own.
58:42I'll do it on my own.
58:43They feel the weight of a medieval ritual.
58:46You're becoming our brother.
58:48How can we use the sword?
58:49Because it's tradition.
58:50Can we do it?
58:51And it's a special day for one of the pilgrims.
58:54I don't want you to dress up in stupid clothing and then think it's all fun.
58:58Yay!
58:59It's Ellen!
59:00It's Ellen!
59:01It's Ellen!
59:02My mum's mum.
59:05I quote the nightmare.
59:06I hope it's common.
59:07Maybe the routine사라리 collar happens.
59:10It's me.
59:11Maybe theoween workplace can do it.
59:12It was like you.
59:13I'll do it.
59:14It'sODci życie.
59:15I found you.
59:16It's bright.
59:17Not all that mean.
59:18It's dark.
59:19It's light.
59:20It's dark.
59:21It's dark.
59:23The beautiful.
59:24It's dark at night.
59:25It's dark at night.
59:27It's dark across all.
59:29It's dead cyt ily.