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Pilgrimage The Road Through the Alps S01E01
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00:00On the medieval pathways of the majestic Austrian and Swiss Alps...
00:07Wow, look at that!
00:09...seven celebrities are making an epic pilgrimage.
00:13Look at this sign.
00:14Ah!
00:15Pilger Herberger.
00:16Pilger Herberger.
00:17Pilgrimage Hostel.
00:19Among them, a pilgrim with mixed heritage.
00:22My father was born into a Jewish family,
00:25but I'm told I was christened, obviously I can't remember.
00:28A Muslim who's doing things her own way.
00:30I have been through periods of my life where I didn't lose faith, I gave it up.
00:36And a practicing Catholic.
00:38I've been saying, show me a sign, just let me know you're there, let me know you're there.
00:42And funny enough, I'm now going on a pilgrimage.
00:45That is insane, isn't it?
00:49Do you want to look at that view, Helen?
00:51Not really, thanks.
00:53Their final destination is Einsilden Abbey, with its revered 15th century Black Madonna,
00:59which attracts almost a million pilgrims and visitors every year.
01:04I wasn't expecting to have my breath taken away.
01:08For 12 days and over 300 kilometers.
01:12We are twice as high as Mount Snowden.
01:14Wow.
01:15There'll be challenges.
01:17Fingers crossed, none of us die and we all make it.
01:20Yeah.
01:21Realizations.
01:22I feel like I'm plugged into something really special.
01:26You're someone who makes me believe more.
01:28And surprises.
01:29I ain't going over a spider.
01:31With this stroke, you're becoming our brother.
01:35I never sit down with a mate and say, okay, let's talk about faith.
01:39We have killed, we have maimed, we've done terrible things to one another.
01:43But will they embrace this journey of a lifetime?
01:47Oh, silly boots.
01:49I wonder how far we are from the border.
01:51We've not got too long left.
01:53How long?
01:54You don't want to know.
01:56Innsbruck.
02:00Capital city of the Austrian state of Tyrol.
02:07In the Middle Ages, it was a crossroads teeming with thousands of Catholic pilgrims heading south to Rome and Jerusalem,
02:19or travelling west on the way of St. James to Santiago in Spain.
02:24but many of the original paths lay forgotten
02:28until the beginning of the 21st century.
02:34The pilgrims will be following the Austrian Camino, or Jakobsweg,
02:38into Switzerland, to Einzelden,
02:41and one of the Catholic Church's most historic abbeys.
02:49In the small town of Insing, just outside Innsbruck,
02:52the seven pilgrims will meet for the first time.
03:00Jay McGuinness, singer from boy band The Wanted, is first to arrive.
03:06Now that I'm actually here, I feel a release of breath.
03:10It's like walking into a postcard.
03:13There's just so much more room for your thoughts.
03:18Not that I have many.
03:19I know we're about to start a journey together, seven of us,
03:25but I'm trying to let the calmness of the valley
03:27override the anxiety of meeting whoever they are.
03:33Next up... Oh, hello!
03:35..our presenter, Geoff Brazier... I'm Geoff.
03:37..and journalist, Nelifah Hedayat.
03:39I'm Nelifah. Good to see you, Jay. How are you?
03:41Good to see you. How are you? Very well, I think.
03:42I'm really excited about this.
03:44Yeah. You know, when you bond as a group,
03:45those sort of bonds are really meaningful to me.
03:48What band was it again?
03:49Who wanted?
03:50Who wanted?
03:50See, I've never had that.
03:51You've never been in a boy band?
03:52I've never been in a boy band.
03:54Shockingly, I know.
03:56The fourth pilgrim, Harry Clark,
03:58was in the army before he won the hit entertainment show,
04:01The Traitors.
04:02A lot of people go on pilgrimage to find healing
04:05and to find help through something in their life.
04:07Hello, pilgrim!
04:09Hola!
04:10This last four months of my life have been absolutely hectic.
04:14I've had to stop, pull my pants up about five times.
04:16Hello.
04:16I'm Geoff.
04:17Harry.
04:17So I'm sort of trying to find that sense of calmness...
04:20How are you doing?
04:20..and just love life like I always have.
04:23Joining them are stand-up comedian Deliso Chaponda
04:26and retired British Paralympian Stephanie Reid,
04:29who grew up in Canada.
04:32Life was so simple as an athlete.
04:34It was to win.
04:35That was it.
04:35Whereas now, I don't always know what direction to go.
04:39I took forever to put these together.
04:42I am ready for the sort of delving into my soul
04:45and exposing my inner self.
04:48But I am not ready for 10 to 16 kilometers of walking every day.
04:54You look like proper pilgrims.
04:56No, no, no, no.
04:57I'm older than you, so I need the help.
05:02The final pilgrim is actor and comedy legend Helen Lederer.
05:07I really want to do my best on this pilgrimage.
05:10If something goes wrong or I just can't do it,
05:13I'm going to have to own it, but I really don't want that to happen.
05:16Hi.
05:16Hello.
05:18How lovely to meet you all.
05:20I'm Nellifer.
05:21Lovely.
05:21I'm Helen.
05:22I've just got all the horrible townie anxiety,
05:25haven't got the right equipment,
05:27what do I look like,
05:29haven't got the right clothes,
05:30you know, all that clutter.
05:31Everyone looks really fit.
05:33Oh, no.
05:33We do have people that actually know about walking on this journey.
05:35Yes, do you know about walking?
05:37No, but I bought all the kids.
05:38She's a sprinter, Helen.
05:39Each pilgrim has been given a phone
05:43with information about the route as well as maps.
05:46From what I'm seeing here,
05:48we need to be turning around
05:49and I think we're going that way.
05:52It's downhill.
05:53We might as well get going, right?
05:55Here's some memories, guys.
05:56Let's go!
05:58The pilgrims are starting their challenging 300km journey in Austria.
06:03To the west is the state of Tyrol
06:07and its majestic alpine landscape.
06:10For two weeks, they'll travel on foot and by bus,
06:14beginning their pilgrimage at Insingh.
06:17They'll head west,
06:19following the Inn Valley through the heart of the Alps.
06:23A tough climb will take them across the Alberg Massif
06:26before they head towards the border with Switzerland.
06:30There, they'll cross the lush Appenzill Alps
06:34and a last push from the medieval town of Rappersville
06:38will bring them to their journey's end,
06:41Einzelden Abbey.
06:43A famous pilgrim destination
06:45with a remarkable history that goes back over 1,000 years.
06:52It is a pilgrimage, right?
06:55So there's religious connotations.
06:57Which I'm incredibly curious about.
06:59What I love is the lessons that come up
07:01when you're not actually looking for them.
07:03Yeah.
07:04So I'm a Muslim.
07:06More than many people will probably not like to call me that.
07:08But people don't like to describe someone
07:12who lives their life the way I do as a Muslim
07:14because they see it as an affront
07:18to their version of Islam.
07:20What about you two?
07:21What are you kind of...?
07:22Well, I was raised Catholic,
07:25but I think that the old ways of thinking in the Catholic Church
07:30are just really harmful, really harmful.
07:34And I don't think that any religion should be cast in judgment,
07:39so I just stepped completely away from it.
07:41As well as being in The Wanted,
07:45Jay McGuinness has also been a winner of Strictly Come Dancing.
07:49These days, he works as an actor and writer.
07:52I think the closest I can get to what I am would be agnostic.
07:57I don't believe that there is a God,
07:59and I don't believe that there isn't.
08:01I think we're stuck here in this mortal realm,
08:04and you only find out once you go beyond the curtain.
08:06So I'm really open to there being more,
08:08and I really hope there is.
08:09And if there is, what is it?
08:12What are we?
08:13And how do we fit into it, you know?
08:14It's a hard question to answer or even ask.
08:21I agreed to go on a pilgrimage.
08:23I think, honestly, it just sounded like the perfect thing to do.
08:29Three years ago, Jay's close friend and bandmate, Tom Parker,
08:33died of cancer.
08:36While Tom was sick, I definitely had moments
08:39that I would say I prayed, whether or not you would call it that.
08:42And then, when he passed away,
08:45I suddenly felt like,
08:48hmm, I wonder if he can hear me now.
08:51I think that did sort of re-ignite a lot of the questions
08:55that I've left unanswered in the back of my mind.
08:58In some way, I know that I'm maybe searching for that catharsis.
09:02On pilgrimage, I'd just like to sort of see,
09:06is the wind blowing any direction that I've missed,
09:08that anyone's got answers that have obfuscated me.
09:11And if not, maybe we just all don't know what's going on together.
09:16I've been doing that for a while.
09:22As the Austrian Camino follows the river in,
09:26it makes its way past churches and chapels
09:28and through centuries-old villages.
09:31The pilgrims are finding their own pace
09:35as they get to know each other.
09:38Tell me a bit about you.
09:40Well, my father didn't believe in God,
09:43but allowed us to believe in God if we wanted to.
09:46But he was born into a Jewish cultural family.
09:50And then things happened, obviously, to Jewish people in the war.
09:57So I have inherited quite a lot of emotional reaction to that faith.
10:07So it will probably get a bit dark for me at times.
10:11But I welcome that.
10:15I mean, you can't shy away from these things all your life.
10:20There is a particular quality I'm learning and feeling more
10:27as I get even older,
10:28that you can't shed your background.
10:32And it is very emotive when you think about
10:34what happened to a lot of the Lederers in Auschwitz
10:39and Therese and Statt, where they were killed.
10:46Actor Helen Lederer was brought up in South London.
10:50I come from a mixed background.
10:54My mother came from the Isle of Wight.
10:56I don't really know her faith.
10:58I think she probably quietly believed in God
11:00but didn't stress about church too much.
11:03I'm told I was christened.
11:05Obviously, I can't remember.
11:06I think we just occupied social norms
11:09in a kind of suburban upbringing.
11:12My father, growing up in Czechoslovakia,
11:15they would normally ski and go to Austria and the mountains
11:18and that was his place.
11:21And so as children, we went skiing.
11:25I can smell the mountains.
11:26I can smell the clean air.
11:29I know it will just bring back a lot of memories.
11:31I probably will cry quietly.
11:34So with all the pain of my family,
11:37that isn't mine but it's theirs,
11:40I want to be able to turn it into something
11:43so I get a bit of peace.
11:46I think I've always prayed.
11:49My faith is that I believe in God.
11:53Sounds a bit pious, doesn't it?
11:55God might look after me with all my worries
11:59if I prayed to him
12:01and it's worth asking, isn't it?
12:02It's worth asking.
12:03Why would you not ask?
12:06Today, the group are following the Camino
12:09to the Upper Inn Valley
12:10and the Monastery of Stans,
12:13a safe haven for pilgrims and travellers
12:15since the Middle Ages.
12:18You can tell this is a pilgrim path
12:20because look, they're two crucifixes.
12:22Um, I think they're power lines.
12:24I know.
12:25Pilgrims used to just literally walk out their front door
12:27or like whatever if they had a door
12:30and they would just walk.
12:31This is brilliant.
12:32Without a map.
12:33I bet.
12:34Without a map.
12:34Yeah.
12:34They would just walk.
12:35They didn't even have shoes.
12:36Yes, pilgrims used to be barefooted
12:38because it's called penitence.
12:41Penitence.
12:41Penitence, yes.
12:42But can you imagine the calluses?
12:45You say that.
12:46Maybe your foot health would be better.
12:48Yeah.
12:48Barefoot.
12:49You think your foot health would be better?
12:50100%.
12:51You get a charge from the surface
12:52that's so good for us.
12:55As a teenager,
12:57injury forced TV presenter Jeff Brazier
12:59to retire from professional football.
13:02I really look after myself.
13:05I think that's contributed to why I am spiritual as well
13:08because I see it as a survival skill
13:11to be at one with yourself,
13:14with your surroundings,
13:15to feel connected to everything and everyone.
13:19I'm exactly where I want to be right now.
13:22Exactly where I look.
13:24Staring at a big, beautiful mountain.
13:28I'm good.
13:29I'm in the best place.
13:31Let's go.
13:31Go.
13:32Go.
13:33I'm not the lollipop man.
13:35G.I. Jeff.
13:36G.I. Jeff.
13:38All right, we're on the path.
13:39Oh, no, that's worth all of it.
13:40Look at that.
13:41Yeah.
13:41It's only going to get better as well.
13:43That is glorious.
13:44It's majestic.
13:45It really is.
13:47Comedian Deliso Chaponda
13:49is more used to stand-up
13:50than long-distance walking.
13:53You're an Olympian.
13:54This must be easy for you.
13:56No, I wouldn't say easy.
13:58I mean, bear in mind,
13:59I was a sprinter and long jumper.
14:00OK.
14:01And I think walking fitness
14:02actually is very specific.
14:04Ah.
14:05So, um...
14:06But how far did you get
14:07with the sprinting
14:08and the long jumping?
14:09I did OK.
14:09Um, I competed
14:11in four different Paralympics.
14:13OK.
14:13And, um, so starting...
14:15Paralympics?
14:16Yeah.
14:16Why the Paralympics?
14:18Um, because I have an artificial leg.
14:21What?
14:21What?
14:22What?
14:22Yeah.
14:23But...
14:23Can you guess which one?
14:24I've no...
14:25I can't even see it at all.
14:27Yeah, um...
14:28So, this is, uh, artificial.
14:30OK.
14:31It's the right.
14:32Ah.
14:32You can tell skinny calf.
14:33OK, got you.
14:35Got you, got you.
14:35Skinny calf.
14:36It's a below knee amputation.
14:38What is that?
14:39Oh, below knee.
14:40Yeah.
14:40I heard below knee,
14:41which is entirely...
14:43Very different.
14:44Delicious, but different.
14:45Delicious, but different.
14:46Um, it's nice sometimes
14:48to meet people
14:48who don't know you
14:50as an amputee
14:51or don't know you
14:51as someone who's disabled.
14:53Yes.
14:53Because it's just...
14:54People often have assumptions
14:55and I always just feel like,
14:57yeah, like,
14:58my artificial leg is interesting,
14:59but it's not the most
15:00interesting thing about me.
15:01It's just part of you.
15:02Yeah.
15:04In medieval times,
15:06this part of the Camino
15:07was called the Salt Road.
15:10Thousands of tons of salt
15:11were transported from a mine
15:12just east of Innsbruck
15:13to Lake Constance.
15:16And pilgrims often shared
15:17traders' routes
15:18as it was the safest way
15:19to travel.
15:20In the village of Flowerling...
15:24Wow!
15:25..the group come across
15:26the Golden Eagle,
15:28an inn that dates back
15:29to the 1400s,
15:30which was also
15:31a trading point for salt.
15:34Look!
15:35The carriage carrying the salt.
15:37Yeah.
15:37The fellow at the front
15:38with the little hat on,
15:39I think he's a salt trader.
15:40There's no way
15:41that someone painted that
15:42at 1660 and it's still there.
15:43He did!
15:44Did they have paint back then?
15:45Of course they did!
15:46How do you know
15:47they had paint
15:48and paintbrushes in that?
15:49Not that long ago.
15:49No, they did.
15:50There's somebody with a hat.
15:51It's over 406 years old.
15:53And they're transporting
15:54the salt
15:55and of course
15:56salt preserves food.
15:57Because they had
15:58no refrigeration.
15:59No refrigeration.
15:59They might have been
16:00paintbrushes.
16:01This was the currency.
16:02This is the white gold
16:03is what they had to do
16:05to earn a living.
16:06Yeah.
16:06So salt is everything.
16:08So in essence,
16:09the pilgrims' trail,
16:10the salt trail
16:10all interacted?
16:11Yep.
16:12Do you know what I love though?
16:13One of the calls
16:14to a Christian life
16:15is to be the salt
16:15of the earth.
16:16Yes!
16:17Which I've always taken as
16:18to be like,
16:20it adds flavour.
16:21I just love that connection
16:22that it is...
16:23Honourable.
16:23Bissante.
16:24Okay, so the map says
16:26we go that way.
16:27Let's follow you then.
16:29I still don't believe
16:30that I was painted in 1660.
16:32No one's ever going to convince me.
16:33They had painters.
16:34Paint last.
16:35It's mad.
16:36The inn valley
16:39is encased
16:40on both sides
16:41by the Alps
16:42and the pilgrim path
16:43starts climbing
16:44to higher ground.
16:46This has completely changed,
16:48hasn't it?
16:49Yes.
16:49This feels completely different.
16:50Do you think
16:51they create the path
16:52with the quickest possible route?
16:53Yeah.
16:54Unless a pilgrim
16:55really wants
16:55to give themselves
16:56a hard time.
16:59By mid-afternoon,
17:01the pilgrims
17:01have been on the road
17:02four hours.
17:03My legs are actually
17:06feeling it now.
17:07Yeah.
17:08At the beginning,
17:08I was all like,
17:09oh, I could do this all day.
17:11Now I'm like,
17:11I could do this
17:12for one more hour.
17:13Yes.
17:13We are nearly there,
17:14to be honest.
17:15Are we?
17:15Oh, we are?
17:15Yeah, Stam's Monastery.
17:17We're probably
17:18that free, 4K away.
17:19You can smell the nature,
17:21can't you?
17:21Is that what we call
17:22what I'm smelling?
17:24I did have a quick look
17:25at Harry's shovel.
17:26My shovel?
17:26Oh, you've got like a trowel
17:28to bury your poop.
17:29Yeah.
17:29No, you can't do that.
17:30You've got to have a bag
17:31so you can scoop it
17:32into the bag.
17:33You can't leave it.
17:34Why can't you leave it there?
17:35I think it's to do
17:36with like the proteins
17:37in human poo.
17:38There's no way
17:38I'm carrying my poo around.
17:39I'm being one with nature.
17:42The traitor's winner,
17:43Harry Clark,
17:44comes from a family
17:45of five children
17:46and lives at home
17:47with his parents.
17:49Even my mum would tell you
17:50I'm the smartest,
17:51dumbest person ever.
17:53I'm just wired backwards
17:55and I find interesting
17:56things that many people don't.
17:58Cheers, mum.
17:59Lemon drizzle cake.
17:59I've got a religious tattoo
18:01which is just a cross
18:02on my hand
18:04so I'm always wearing
18:05my faith on me
18:07at all times
18:08and it was also an excuse
18:10for my mum
18:10to let me get tattoos
18:11because she would have
18:13hated my tattoos otherwise.
18:15That's true as well,
18:16you know.
18:18Faith was around
18:18since I was born.
18:20I was baptised.
18:22I ought to served in church,
18:23I played the violin in church
18:24with my sister,
18:26all my family are Catholic
18:27but I just always wanted
18:29to be a professional boxer
18:30or a professional football player
18:31and that was it.
18:32I wanted to do nothing else
18:33for my life.
18:35Then my grandad
18:36who served in the forces,
18:37he said to me,
18:38you realise that you can do both
18:40in the army
18:40and still get paid.
18:42I was like,
18:43this sounds like
18:44the perfect plan
18:45and then I had
18:46a six year going on
18:47seven year career
18:48in the army.
18:48Harry finished
18:50a lance corporal
18:51and a trained
18:52aviation technician.
18:55Because I was away
18:55from my family,
18:57I started praying
18:58completely differently.
19:00Instead of,
19:01oh I need this,
19:02it was more,
19:02guide me through this
19:03and thank you
19:04for my family
19:05and make sure
19:05they're okay
19:06because I'm away from home.
19:08I just feel like
19:09I'm not as strong
19:10in my faith as I was
19:11when I was like
19:12ten or eleven
19:13or sixteen
19:14so I'm more excited
19:15to try and reconnect
19:16my faith fully
19:17and that's what
19:18I'm using the pilgrimage
19:19for.
19:25It's easy to tell
19:26which one the monastery
19:27is because it's
19:27the biggest building
19:28there.
19:29And real monks
19:30will be in there
19:30which is going
19:31to be amazing.
19:32I've actually never
19:33met a monk
19:33in real life.
19:35Have you?
19:35No, never.
19:36Have you, Joe?
19:36Never knowingly.
19:39Isn't there a movie
19:39about a monk?
19:40Yeah, the ones
19:41that I've seen
19:42he has that orange
19:43sort of thing.
19:43A Shaolin monk?
19:44I'm not even joking.
19:45There's videos of him.
19:46They have no pain.
19:47And they have
19:47like balls of steel.
19:49Literally.
19:53Founded in 1273
19:54the Cistercian
19:56Monastery of Stams
19:57still offers
19:58refuge and
19:59hospitality
19:59to passing pilgrims.
20:01Go, go, go, go, go.
20:03Into the monastery
20:04we go.
20:04Yeah.
20:05Monks, are you ready?
20:10Harry, Jay and Helen
20:12have asked to meet
20:13one of the monks
20:14Brother Franz
20:15Brother Franz
20:15in the monastery's
20:16basilica.
20:18Wow, goodness me.
20:20It's huge.
20:22I've never seen
20:22anything like this
20:23ever.
20:25This is insane.
20:26We've not even got
20:27to the main part yet.
20:30Well, the altar.
20:31Sounds of human.
20:34I'm so excited
20:35we're meeting a monk.
20:35It's so exciting.
20:37Like a monk in real life.
20:38Yes, absolutely.
20:40Oh my gosh.
20:40Oh my goodness.
20:41It's a monk.
20:43Hello.
20:43Hello.
20:44Hello.
20:45Good evening.
20:46Grüß Gott.
20:47Oh, goodness.
20:48You made this.
20:54Oh, thank you.
20:57Shall we take?
20:59We take?
20:59Yeah.
21:00I want a bit of the chocolate one.
21:01Oh, I'll take another piece.
21:04I want to ask a question
21:05but my mouth is full of bread.
21:07How long have you been a monk?
21:1035 years.
21:12This is amazing.
21:14I need to let him know
21:14how cool this is
21:15that we've met a monk.
21:16I need to ask this question.
21:18Do you have superpowers?
21:19Because all the monks I've seen
21:20they can bear like
21:22unbearable pain
21:24and stuff like that.
21:25So can you do that?
21:26And can you...
21:27Gingang Ghoul is made out of titanium
21:29and stuff.
21:29No, no.
21:30Does he have superpowers?
21:31No, no.
21:32Will let him know how cool he is?
21:33No, no, no.
21:34Tell him why he's really cool.
21:35No superpowers.
21:35No, no.
21:36We're all just people.
21:38We're just people with mistakes
21:40like all the others.
21:43We're all just people.
21:46We're all just people.
21:47Mm-hmm.
21:47And we're not being able to
21:48be averaged what we are,
21:50but what we've been able to do.
21:55Yeah, I want to know if he's got a partner as well.
21:57Do you want to ask him?
21:58Maybe not ask that.
21:58I don't know if monks...
22:00Maybe you should, yeah.
22:01I don't know if monks, like,
22:02they have partners.
22:03You can ask that.
22:03Yeah.
22:04Yeah.
22:04So in your life,
22:06are you allowed, like a partner,
22:08do you have, say, a wife or a husband?
22:10Are you allowed to do that when you're a monk?
22:12Do you feel like you've lived a happy and full life devoting yourself to your God?
22:29Devoting yourself to your God?
22:47Good answer.
22:48Can we ask him for a hug?
23:00Can I hug him?
23:01Oh, you're not allowed.
23:02Oh, you're allowed?
23:03Yes.
23:04We're allowed to hug?
23:05I'm going to hug you.
23:06He's giving a monk a hug.
23:07Oh, my gosh, it's the coolest thing ever.
23:08Oh.
23:09It's a good hugger as well.
23:10Oh, thank you so much.
23:13Thanks you very much for having us.
23:14No, thank you.
23:15Yeah.
23:16Harry, you're encourageable.
23:17I can't believe I just hugged a monk.
23:18How mad.
23:19You did.
23:20Did we take all the bread?
23:21Did we clean him out?
23:22No, we left him.
23:23I can't believe I just hugged a monk.
23:24How mad.
23:25You did.
23:26Did we take all the bread?
23:28Did we clean him out?
23:29We left one or two, I think.
23:36Although brought up Catholic, Jay is now agnostic.
23:41I found it a little bit more difficult than I thought I would.
23:44I hoped that I would find something here that might reignite some love that I had for being
23:50in a church.
23:51But I don't think that this particular evening has been where I was going to find it.
23:58The Pilgrims celebrate the end of their first day at the Abbey's Cafe.
24:03So, actually, I just really like you all.
24:04Hey!
24:05And so, I think, you know, when you come into a new group and you just think, okay, you
24:08just kind of figure out how you're going to fit in with that.
24:10But I just, I just really enjoyed everybody.
24:13Good.
24:14I think on that note, we should cheers with all of our monk beers.
24:17Oh!
24:18To your herbal.
24:19To your herbal.
24:20That's not quite a beer.
24:21Cheers!
24:22It's the same colour as a beer.
24:23Cheers!
24:24Cheers!
24:25Cheers!
24:26Cheers!
24:27Cheers!
24:28Cheers!
24:29Cheers!
24:30Cheers!
24:31Cheers!
24:32Cheers!
24:33Cheers!
24:34Like most pilgrims who walk the Austrian Camino, the group have stayed overnight in a local
24:40guesthouse.
24:41Morning, squad.
24:42Hello!
24:43Oh, that looks nice.
24:44Yes, get that stretch on.
24:47What are you doing when you get to your room?
24:50Are you just falling asleep like I am?
24:52Yeah.
24:53Fully clothed?
24:54Yeah.
24:55Oh, that's good.
24:56Yeah, a little twist.
24:58The pilgrims have another long day ahead of them.
25:01So now we're ready.
25:02Ready to go again.
25:03I feel super pumped.
25:04Do you feel fresh?
25:05I do.
25:06That's good.
25:07Still following the Inn Valley, they set out from the village of Imsterau towards Cronberg
25:13Convent, where they'll spend the night.
25:15It's very easy to kind of fall into the beauty of this whole place.
25:20I feel like we're spoiled.
25:21Let's get to the point now where I look at the mountains and it's like, oh, that looks
25:25cool instead of, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
25:27Still takes my breath away.
25:29The Camino has many shrines and small chapels dotted along the route.
25:34It's not just Jesus.
25:35There's a dude next to him, a saint maybe.
25:38Harry, help us out.
25:40That's probably Mother Mary on the left.
25:42Do you know what's so cool though?
25:43That's probably all handcrafted from wood.
25:45And obviously Jesus was a carpenter.
25:47So that was his everyday life.
25:48I actually heard a rumor he was not a carpenter and he was a stonemason.
25:50Really?
25:51Because there actually weren't that many trees around.
25:53Has anyone ever noticed Jesus is often painted with like a solid six-pack?
25:56No.
25:57And I remember asking the priest like, why, you know, he's a perfect guy.
26:01But the answer was because yeah, he probably was.
26:03Imagine, you know, you're carrying rocks and chiseling things out.
26:06Like he probably was pretty buff.
26:07There's a line from a Leonard Cohen song, which was, Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the
26:12water.
26:13And the idea was, Jesus was whatever the people he was with.
26:17So when he was with the sailors, he was a sailor.
26:20And the miracle was one they would appreciate, you know.
26:23So Jesus is the image of God.
26:26Is that right?
26:27He's also an individual.
26:28It's the most varied interpretation in the different denominations.
26:32If you ask a Presbyterian or a Catholic or a Mormon what son of God means, is it interpreted
26:38very differently?
26:39Absolutely.
26:40Because is it metaphorical?
26:41Is it literal?
26:42Can I give you my interpretation?
26:43Yes.
26:44I think it would be quite informed.
26:45So let's have it.
26:46Okay.
26:47So God is like just this bigger than life person, probably too big for any of us to understand.
26:52So the best way for him to connect with us was to send someone, a person, his son, that
26:57was like him to show what God would be like in human form.
27:01And that's who Jesus was.
27:02Such a good explanation.
27:03I was going to say that's perfect because I always love the interpretation that we're
27:07all ants and it's an overpower that like our brains physically doesn't have the capacity
27:10to understand why we're here or our purpose.
27:13Can I upgrade us to ladybirds?
27:15Ladybirds?
27:16No, if you want to.
27:17I don't want to be an ant.
27:18You don't want to be an ant.
27:19Ants or ladybirds?
27:20I'd rather be a ladybird.
27:21I wouldn't mind.
27:22I think ants are quite cool.
27:23But why ladybirds?
27:24Is it better than an ant?
27:25It just wants it to be a bit more pizzazz.
27:26The pilgrim path meanders upwards into the tree line.
27:35I don't know if it's just because, you know, I was an athlete for so many years.
27:40Like I have to move every single day to the point where I am just in a foul mood if I don't.
27:46Well, I think I need to do it more because like, let's say I have writer's block.
27:51I found if I go for a walk and then I come back home, I'll have an idea.
27:55Yes.
27:56Whoa.
27:57That one's slippy.
27:58There, be careful.
28:00Appreciate it.
28:01Oh, Lord.
28:04So you said that you are currently on a search for faith.
28:07Yeah, so I have never lost my faith in God.
28:11I feel the presence of God.
28:13But what I'm looking for is the community slash religion slash practice which persuades me.
28:21So for example...
28:22So you're looking for a home religion rather than faith.
28:25Yes.
28:26Yes.
28:27Deliso Chaponda is a stand-up comedian.
28:30I grew up in 14 different countries.
28:33I was born in Zambia because my dad was a refugee from Malawi.
28:39Citizen of nowhere was what I thought of myself as for many years.
28:44But I'm starting to think of myself now as citizen of everywhere.
28:48My family was religious.
28:51My mother was Catholic.
28:56My father was Protestant, Presbyterian, I'm not sure.
29:01Essentially, because we were traveling so much, we went to whatever church was nearest.
29:06But it was always very important.
29:08At 17, he was introduced to the Baha'i faith.
29:13The core tenets of the Baha'i faith is that it's independent investigation of truth.
29:20And also, Baha'is see all the different manifestations of God.
29:25The different prophets, be it Jesus, Muhammad, they see them all as equal.
29:31They're different ways to the truth.
29:35There was something about it which really resonated with me.
29:40It's just, I feel weird saying I'm specifically this faith or that faith,
29:45because I kind of feel like I'm no faith and all faith.
29:50Deliso was a student when he first saw stand-up comedy.
29:54It very much was a, this is why God has put me on earth kind of moment.
29:59And from that point, there was nothing else I could be.
30:03People say stuff like, I miss the good old days.
30:05The good old days were terrible.
30:06We've got amazing stuff.
30:07We've got Wi-Fi.
30:10We've got rights.
30:12Women can vote.
30:16I'm black.
30:17200 years ago, this would have been an auction.
30:23I definitely think that the gifts which I was given have a purpose.
30:30So pilgrimage, I am hoping, is going to help me find some definition.
30:35I know that I'm close to Baha'i.
30:37I know I'm close to Quaker.
30:39I know I'm close to Unitarian.
30:41But I'm not anything yet.
30:43And maybe by the end of pilgrimage, I'll be able to say this is what I am.
30:47The group make a short detour above the Inn Valley, to the village of Obsars and the church of St Fidjil.
30:59Built in around 1500, it's famous for its early pilgrim graffiti.
31:05Amazing.
31:06Amazing.
31:07Yes.
31:10All right, here we go.
31:11Mmm.
31:15Oh, my days.
31:20Absolutely amazing.
31:21You can see the years that they were here.
31:241593.
31:26They're all so different.
31:27Some of them are really long letters, and then some of them just people's names.
31:30Like, it's the kind of thing I would write.
31:32Like, my kind of skill level.
31:33It's not fancy.
31:34Like, in your book at school?
31:35Yeah.
31:36And just, it's, yeah, I just feel like it's a lot more relatable than I was expecting.
31:41A 17th century painting is thought to be of three ancient rain givers and fertility goddesses.
31:48It's said women would come to the chapel to pray for their own fertility, mixing a pagan rite with Christianity.
31:56What is paganism?
31:58Well, paganism predates the Catholic Church.
32:00It was, I guess, a religion that was a lot more connected to, like, nature and the seasons.
32:06And I think it's pretty awesome that it still remained here up in this small mountain town and snuck through with the Catholic Church and coexisted right up until today.
32:15I think it happens a lot, though, because, like, in a lot of African countries, when, like, the missionaries brought the Christian faith, it kind of mixes with the current faith.
32:26Hmm.
32:27It melds. So, like, for example, in Malawi, where I'm from, there's a traditional healer, like a witch doctor you can go see.
32:35And he's got totems and things which you expect in ancestral worship.
32:39Right.
32:40But he also has the Virgin Mary. I think it's cool.
32:42I like that they're flexible.
32:44I think those are women's names. There's Margarita, Sophia.
32:47Christina.
32:48Looks like these are all nuns. And then you see the one with the cape, Sophia.
32:51Yeah.
32:52She's probably, like, Mother Superior.
32:53Amazing.
32:54It's cool to know that pilgrims used to be like us.
32:56Mm-hmm.
32:57They're in a church drawing graffiti.
32:58Yeah.
32:59Just not saying I would do that. Wink, wink.
33:01No.
33:02But, like, to know that they wanted to leave their mark two to mark their pilgrimage, they would have just been as cool as us.
33:08Yeah.
33:11Great.
33:12Oh, my God.
33:13It's getting late in the day, and the pilgrims need to get back on the path.
33:17Oh, that was amazing.
33:19Did you top up your water?
33:20Yeah, I'm refreshed.
33:21Let's go.
33:24They have to get to their overnight accommodation at Kronberg Convent, run by the Sisters of Mercy.
33:32So, you know how people think that, okay, as soon as a man puts on a collar...
33:35Yes.
33:36...he suddenly becomes very attractive to women?
33:37Yes.
33:38Is it the same with nuns?
33:39Yes.
33:40Really?
33:41Yes.
33:42Okay.
33:43It really depends on the nun.
33:44Okay.
33:45It depends on the nun.
33:46It depends on the nun, but it's forbidden.
33:48Okay, gotcha.
33:49It's also the fantasy of this person who has given up men, being like...
33:53And you're the one.
33:54Oh, you.
33:55I can't...
33:56Resist.
33:57Yes.
33:58See, I do get this.
33:59Yes.
34:00Because my husband asked me out 27 times...
34:02Yes.
34:03...before I said yes.
34:04But do you know what changed my mind?
34:05What changed your mind?
34:06He stopped asking.
34:07He stopped asking.
34:08Oh, yeah.
34:09Fantastic.
34:10And in the end, I asked him it.
34:11Wonderful.
34:13Stephanie Reid is a world champion and three-time Paralympic medallist.
34:19Recently retired, she still trains regularly with Paralympian husband Brent Lakatos.
34:25I've had an amazing career as an athlete.
34:28I have loved it.
34:29I have loved every moment of it.
34:31Raised in Canada by her British parents, Steph became an amputee when she was still a teen.
34:38I was in a boating accident when I was 15.
34:42The driver had no idea that I was in the water.
34:46And I remember the ridge of the boat as it passed over top.
34:53And then it was just darkness.
34:59And so you're 15 in an ambulance and just thinking, I might die and I am terrified.
35:07And that was probably the first time that I prayed.
35:12And I just said, God, if you could please just save me.
35:18The problem was when I eventually woke up from surgery to then be told that your leg has been amputated below the knee.
35:31I wanted to be an international rugby superstar.
35:35And I was angry and devastated because I just thought, oh, what is the point, God?
35:44I think what I learned most about that period is that it is okay to live with a faith that has tension.
35:53Because I knew, without doubt, God saved my life that day.
36:02And then in university, I was introduced to my first blade.
36:06And that's when I thought, oh, I wonder, I wonder how fast I could still run.
36:12I would describe myself as a Christian.
36:18I am trying to follow the example of Jesus.
36:24But it doesn't mean that life doesn't get really hard or that I don't still have a lot of questions.
36:29I have never done a pilgrimage.
36:32And it's scary because, you know, thoughts are going to come up.
36:36But they have to come up.
36:38Otherwise, you're never going to move on and think about newer or better things.
36:42And there it is.
36:46There it is.
36:48Fantastic.
36:49I'm surprised they let boys stay there.
36:51I'm expecting to step on the ground and my feet burst into flame.
36:54Well, maybe you can sleep outside.
36:56Maybe it's something like that because I'm like, men shouldn't be in a nunnery.
37:01I'm quite pumped because I feel like my only, like, actual interpretation of a nunnery is from Sound of Music.
37:06Yes, and Sister Act.
37:07Oh, yes.
37:08It's like, it's always singing.
37:09I've not seen either.
37:10I want some singing.
37:11Yeah.
37:12And I hope it is all true.
37:16There is a nun.
37:18Hello.
37:19Welcome.
37:20Hi.
37:22It's very nice to welcome you here.
37:26Thank you for having us.
37:27I hope you are well.
37:28My name is Sister Natanya Maria and I'm a Sister of Mercy.
37:32Are you tired?
37:33No.
37:34No.
37:35I was going to say yes.
37:36A little more tired than others.
37:38The convent used to belong to the Franciscan Sisters of Hallein.
37:42But when they died out, the Sisters of Mercy stepped in and now run it as a spiritual retreat and a rest stop for pilgrims.
37:51This is the pilgrim church.
37:53Oh, wow.
37:54It dates back to the 18th century.
37:57And this is the fountain.
38:00The water comes directly from the mountains.
38:04Do you know Father Kneipp?
38:07He is very famous for his water treatments.
38:12Sebastian Kneipp was a German Catholic priest born in 1821 who promoted the positive effects of cold water on blood circulation and the nervous system.
38:24Now Kneipp water features are found throughout Austria and Central Europe, especially in the mountains.
38:33The nuns have recently built a foot bath of their own.
38:36Oh, with the roses.
38:37So beautiful.
38:38This is amazing.
38:39The water is really cold.
38:40It is.
38:41It's really cold.
38:42Yes.
38:43Do people wear swimming costumes?
38:45No, no.
38:46They put their trousers up and then they walk in the water.
38:51So, if you would like to try it.
38:53Are you going to do it with us?
38:55Ah, okay.
38:56You've got a part of the team.
38:58Of course.
39:00Do we have to go from here?
39:01Yes, we have to go from here and we have to go back.
39:06Yeah, it's...
39:08It's refreshing.
39:11Ooh, Mother Mary.
39:13Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
39:18Hey, man, hey, this is cold.
39:21Whoa!
39:23Oh, my goodness.
39:25Are we sure this is refreshing?
39:27Because right now I am questioning my choices.
39:30Is it time to come out now?
39:31Yes, we go.
39:32I'll follow you, sister.
39:35I'm in pain.
39:37Unlike most of the pilgrims, presenter Geoff Brazier is a big fan of cold water.
39:42water for me ice baths are good because it's the discipline of being able to say I'm gonna
39:51do something even though it's horrible and hard and uncomfortable the fact that I can withstand
39:59that for a couple of minutes and then feel great afterwards there's always such a payoff ice baths
40:08meditation breath work they're all kind of groups in the same bracket for me and that these are things
40:14that we do to keep ourselves in touch with ourselves Jeff went to Catholic schools and
40:22some of his childhood was spent in foster care when your life is in relative crisis and that
40:28seems to be the norm then it's going to take something a little bit stronger than a hymn
40:35and a piece of bread and you know sip of whatever it was that was in that cup to actually make me
40:43feel like actually someone's got me when he was 23 Jeff met reality TV star Jade Goody and they had
40:52two boys Bobby and Freddie Jade went public with her diagnosis of cervical cancer and her death at only
40:5927 years old made national headlines when the boys lost their mum I'd say I was already spiritual to a
41:07degree so I knew I could protect myself by adopting certain routines and habits into my day things that
41:16we associate with being spiritual it's like right what's good for you what's gonna help you cope what's
41:22gonna help you to be at your best because you need to fill your cup so you can look after these kids
41:28I've landed at a place where I feel like God is within all of us and that God is his love that fits
41:37for me right now the universe I feel is what guides me I feel like the universe just chucks whatever I
41:43need at me whenever I need it but you know some people could very easily just swap the word universe
41:49for God and for them that's like that that that fits it depends on what story you believed in really
41:56are they all just stories lovely come in sister Netanya takes the pilgrims to their accommodation we
42:10have three double rooms and one single room so so there are three double rooms one single
42:18I genuinely don't mind what what Steph I love sleepovers so I'm I'll take it it's so against my nature
42:28what are you sure I'll take the single room unless you want to in which I'll take it I'll take it I'll
42:34take it I feel so special for you the pilgrims go to find their rooms oh that's more intimate than I
42:45I thought it was too bad hey big spoon or little spoon no I I think we're going to move this little
42:54thing in between no but like a twin but I brought us matching pajamas Harry is a pilgrim in heaven
43:01there is no way Jeff and I've got a double bed in the room I mean I'm not complaining so I'm about to
43:07sleep Jeff Brazier but I want to see if Jay and Aliso have a double bed there you go much safer yeah
43:16much safer Jay do you guys have two single beds yeah me and Jeff we've got a double bed I'm not even
43:26joking give the people what they want mate can I come here yeah yeah go you've got like a whole lounge
43:30what have you got what's going on here meanwhile Nellifer is in solitary I got my little writing desk
43:36oh this is lovely I feel like you're living like the known life yeah so you have the single room and I
43:46want you to enjoy every moment of it thank you is that the sound of your teeth getting together being so
43:52genuine it's the pilgrim's second evening together and they want to understand more about Deliso's
44:10faith when I was born I was Christian and I was extremely Christian in that like I talked to God
44:20like not even praying and then when I was 17 I was invited to a Baha'i deepening right so by a
44:29very attractive girl so I'm going to say the only reason I agreed was because she was hot it wasn't
44:35actually a search for faith as a saying flirt to convert but what she invited to me was amazing
44:45because Baha'is believe that the greatest truth is the search for truth the independent search for
44:50truth they believe in all the prophets the founders of the great religious but they're equal it's like
44:55if there's a mountain truth is at the top there are many ways to get to the top right that's the
45:03Christian way that's the Muslim way that's the Baha'i way but you're all trying to reach the truth
45:09and prophets are almost just like guides and it's kind of like breadcrumbs to lead you to the truth
45:17and I'm like I'm reading all the breadcrumbs and trying to figure it out because right now I
45:22wouldn't necessarily define myself as a Baha'i because I'm still looking I'm still questioning
45:27but I've not yet belonged is it lonely no because I would almost say like my faith is my solace right
45:36so I still get fully fulfilled like I will read privately religious texts and think about it I love faith
45:45where it feels like it's opening up bits of me and it's like do you know what I mean
45:49and it's welcoming you it's welcoming me and it's embracing me
45:52so I often feel in conflict with my faith so I I don't know how to fit in and it it kills me like
46:00it really it bothers me inside so I just I think I don't mean to be cynical and I'll have loving this
46:07dinner I'm really really out what's your thing that's the thing on this table sits the Abrahamic
46:14faith those of us who believe in them and those of us who don't we have fought wars we have killed
46:19we have maimed we've done terrible things to one another in the name of faith and so I feel that I
46:25carry that what's done in my name in my the name of my faith I feel like I carry that I feel responsible
46:33for it I have a question do you feel these terrible things done in the name of faith
46:38with the intention of the faith or perversion of the faith I don't think it matters do you think
46:44Christ is a fan of people killing in his name do you think Mohammed is a fan of people killing his
46:49name my point is I think it's humans get this beautiful thing which is faith which is messages
46:57of love but we're still humans and there's still politics and they're still wanting to
47:03conquer each other Jeff has no faith he has messages of tolerance faith doesn't determine
47:07that right and sometimes what I said you know I know but I would say I'm getting really anxious
47:12do you think which is fine we go to all the emotional places we're all in this together don't
47:16worry we can go to we can go to joy we can go to discomfort how can any of us not feel as though
47:25terrible things have been done in our name I don't look that's the point is it's not the vibe
47:31for dinner it actually it does hurt when I hear you say talk about Christian faith and the awful things
47:37that have been done because awful things have been done but I don't think that that is because of
47:42Jesus because if you look at that message his message was love yeah and we have perverted that
47:48and part of the Christian faith is actually that people are broken every single one of us
47:54is broken and I just think so many of these messages have been twisted by us and actually
48:01it's about getting back to what did these texts say
48:04I am a devoted Muslim but with huge caveats and my faith is tied to not my homeland
48:19because my homeland is here in Britain but my birth land where I was born in Kabul in Afghanistan
48:25where currently a woman speaking in public is illegal to hear a woman's voice is is is illegal and the
48:35men who enforce this do it because of Islam I can't explain to you how difficult it is to both love
48:43something and fear it and who I am is very confusing an Emmy award-winning journalist Nela for her diet and
48:52her family came to the UK as refugees when she was seven years old they settled in London I don't allow
49:02people or even an institution as old as Islam to tell me what I can and can't do what is wrong with
49:11finding beauty in parts of Islam but not all of it how could anyone tell me that I don't see myself
49:18reflected in Islam some might call me a bad Muslim and others might say that I am a modern one and I
49:25don't really care because it's on my terms I decided and there's power in that
49:33at Kronberg it's time for the pilgrims to bed down with their new roomies
49:38I get mad bad bad bad I'm lucky I cut it short last time but it just goes mad you always must go like
49:47fluffable wouldn't it or you just wake up like that sometimes it's the same really into my lovely clean
49:55nunnery duvet everything there everything in place because I'm sharing I'm with you
50:03I've got my hat and I'm going to do my reading before I go to sleep and then pass up it looks
50:15like you're gonna do a heist good night son night night
50:20it's going to be another hot day on the Austrian Camino but before the pilgrims leave Kronberg
50:35Steph has asked to meet sister Netanya since retiring from athletics Steph is having to focus on some
50:42difficult life decisions
50:46so the thing that I am struggling with at the moment um I'm married I've been married for 16 years and
50:53it's wonderful and you know of the age now I'm 39 and we're kind of getting to that decision of
51:00are we going to have kids or are we not I'm just scared I'm going to look back and possibly regret
51:06the decision to have said no to things that are so normal and expected from society you will feel
51:14it in your heart you need some trust and I always say yes I have the possibility to decide what I will do
51:28and how I organize my life but in the end I trust in God that he is with me and yeah he helps me
51:40you know one month ago I had my perpetual profession that means I stay my long life with our community
51:50and before there were a lot of doubts and and I was not sure if I really go this way
52:00and then I was in silence for 30 days and I was only in relationship with God there was nothing else
52:09I decide okay Jesus you called me and I will follow you I will jump into the deep water I don't know
52:18I tried to swim I like your style I think watching you and just the example and the life that you're
52:29living has really just given me the courage to think I don't need to do life on anyone else's terms
52:34I don't need anyone else's affirmation I just need God's not even approval I just want him walking beside
52:40me and if I have that it doesn't matter what my life looks like to anyone else and I just want to thank you
52:48for that may I give you a hug of course I wish you all the best stuff God bless you
52:58that is now a lot to digest I want to experience everything life has to offer I thought I had that
53:06moment as a 15 year old where
53:16I thought my life was going to be over much sooner than expected and I made a vow in that moment that
53:24never again would I miss out on an opportunity I was so thankful to still be alive and I would live
53:30every moment with an element of that thankfulness I'm not walking out of here thinking oh I know the
53:35answer but at least I know no matter what happens I will make a better decision because I can see that
53:42that much more clearly thank you thank you it's time for the pilgrims to continue on the Camino
53:51thank you for everything thank you very much all the best for you thank you all the best at this
53:56point in pilgrimage which is still very early on I'm not expecting answers or solutions because a lot of
54:03the stuff I'm struggling with is so big have a good way thank you good Camino and I almost feel like
54:11I'll be able to fully commit to religion when I get hit by a thunderbolt of emotion
54:16can I just say yeah I've now hugged a monk and a nun yes next up a vicar how would you compare the
54:25two experiences very different actually very different the next stage of the pilgrims journey
54:32will take them out of the inn valley and higher into the alps into the alberg region where the
54:39highest peak is almost 3000 meters where are we going up oh yes somewhere cold today they're heading
54:47up to the famous ski village of Saint Anton to get there a seven kilometer demanding and undulating
54:56pilgrim path perilous path perilous path okay how's this up suiting you Helen it's suiting me in a minimal
55:05sort of way i'm just thinking about one foot in front of the other yeah and having sight of your
55:13boots i thought you're gonna say something else yeah this is like proper pilgrimage path in it
55:21this is some of the hardest walking we've done so far i'd say oh my lord i think it's sometimes good
55:28not to think ahead it's the biggest hill i've tackled probably since i was born i think once we
55:37hit a certain altitude the seatbelt sign turns off when we serve peanuts
55:44the pilgrims come across an open chapel that is wicked in it does anyone want a moment i'm good i might
55:52do i'm good good come on in do it are we walking more you can make a start if you want i'm going
56:00really slow yeah so i can start and then everyone will overtake me okay we'll we'll catch you up
56:08he's coming up slowly one step at a time
56:11when i pray i do it very solo-y if that makes sense i'm always by myself the pilgrimage to me
56:27now is like i don't know how to explain it it's a feeling like i always should have been doing this
56:32like i'm meant to be here if that makes sense a sense of belonging can i have a moment quick on my ones
56:41the camino soon opens onto alpine meadow oh do you think those are gentians
56:52edelweiss that's switzerland isn't it probably
56:57i'm exhausted but i'm going one step at a time and i know i'll get there but yeah my favorite part
57:03of this pilgrimage is the eating and chatting i think i'm a last supper kind of person
57:10i'm not a you know path to gethsemane kind of person
57:16oh look lovely that lovely i never knew usher was this sick you know oh wow this is gorgeous
57:26the path starts to traverse above saint anton before descending into the village
57:30oh my goodness are we really here yeah you're just bones aching to sit down yeah i promise harry
57:37you've still got my bag harry's still got my bag harry such a gentleman do you think you could fit my
57:43bag honestly i probably could do then i bet you could this town is beautiful i can't believe it
57:50this one do you think yeah sit ahead sit ahead i will then jeff i will oh wow feels good doesn't it
58:00yeah i've got pain on the bottom of my feet which is interesting if you want me to get a thumb in
58:03there i'm your guy oh um yeah yeah no no i'm not even joking are you serious yeah yeah i mean this
58:10kind of failure so my hands okay let's see where you've got any oh my god
58:15i picked the road soon you did cheers everyone it's just well done we are a team we're pilgrims
58:28just do this all night next time this is the highest we've been yeah probably the highest i've
58:34ever been the pilgrims tackle the formidable austrian alps i'm really scared about this bit if you go down
58:40we go down together they feel the weight of a medieval ritual you're becoming our brother how
58:48can we use the sword because it's tradition can do it and it's a special day for one of the pilgrims
58:55i don't want you to dress up in stupid clothing and then think it's all fun
59:10so
59:14so
59:16you