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00:00Welcome to Bermuda.
00:03A small island paradise in the middle of the Atlantic.
00:07Seeing the turquoise waters, it does lift my mood.
00:10We'll go along the coast, OK? See you up there.
00:13A dedicated police service...
00:17Somebody's going to need to open this door up really quickly.
00:19..is keeping this British Overseas Territory safe.
00:25I think he wears the uniform very well.
00:27Do you want the $20 now?
00:29Officers, including Brits, doing their duty...
00:32It's tough, and it's really humid today.
00:37The reality is that there are challenges.
00:40..crime-busting in a place where anything can happen.
00:44I didn't really expect the cows to run out the gate.
00:46Uh-oh.
00:49..going to great lengths to catch criminals.
00:54Oh, she's gone, gone. She's gone.
00:56Cannot make this up.
00:59With summer tourists arriving in droves...
01:01Woo-hoo!
01:03..this is peak season for the police.
01:06Listen, mate.
01:08Calm down.
01:08I love policing.
01:10It's in my DNA.
01:11On patrol today...
01:12This is not your property.
01:13..officers help evict a suspected squatter.
01:15If we come back here, you will be arrested for trespassing.
01:16This is all by the government.
01:17Coming through, sorry.
01:18Canine officer Robin McNabb checks on a suspicious suitcase.
01:25He's alerted to this bag.
01:26I'm just going to let Customs know to check that bag.
01:28Excuse me.
01:29It's got to fasten this helmet.
01:30While officer Peter Paul keeps the road safe.
01:34It's unlicensed and uninsured.
01:36So I'm not going to argue with you.
01:38The police service in Bermuda marches on its stomach.
01:42Officers Chris Douglas and Krishna Singh are getting breakfast
01:44at the start of an eight-hour shift.
01:45Morning, guys.
01:46But this is no ordinary food truck.
01:48Officer Krishna set it up as a sideline to his police work.
01:51Trini is short for Trinidad.
01:53We have great Trinidad food here.
01:54Routis, curries and something called doubles.
01:57I'm a student from Trinidad.
01:58I was an accountant in Trinidad.
02:00When I came to Bermuda on vacation,
02:03I was a student from Bermuda,
02:04and I was a student from Bermuda.
02:05My student came to Bermuda,
02:07which was a student from Bermuda.
02:08I was a student from Bermuda,
02:10and a student from Bermuda,
02:10and a student from Bermuda marches on its stomach.
02:14Officers Chris Douglas and Krishna Singh
02:16are getting breakfast at the start of an eight-hour shift.
02:18Morning, guys.
02:20But this is no ordinary food truck.
02:21I never left.
02:22I'll have a burger with bacon, no cheese, lettuce and tomato, and half-fried.
02:29Half-fried.
02:30Yeah.
02:31I've been here almost 40 years.
02:32Almost 40 years.
02:33So I decided to become a police officer for a short time.
02:37And lo and behold, I've been there 27 years now.
02:40I really enjoy it.
02:42A double is like two pastry, like chapati, about that size, with chickpea in the middle,
02:48and sausage.
02:49It sounds simple, but it tastes all in the world.
02:52Bermuda's special location means that it's a melting pot of different cultures.
02:57Bermuda, it's amazing.
02:59I mean, it genuinely is unique.
03:02We are a very small island, isolated in the Atlantic, but it's beautiful.
03:07Officer Chris appreciates the benefits of his partner's sideline.
03:11Yeah, it's great having somebody who earns this, because then you can kind of put in your
03:15order, like in advance, you can get special attention to it.
03:18You're welcome.
03:19Make sure it's all done and ready, and maybe get a discount.
03:23Maybe.
03:24Why not?
03:26I have been a police officer for 11 years.
03:29We're a small community.
03:30A lot of us tend to know most of, like other Bermudians.
03:35It's a different style of policing.
03:37You know, you have to be polite.
03:38You have to kind of, you know, be friendly.
03:42You're welcome.
03:43Can't read.
03:47Homemade.
03:50See you guys.
03:57I love Bermuda.
03:59That's why I kind of wanted to get into public service.
04:01I just felt that that was like my colon.
04:05Just giving back, and the police is just where I'm at, and I love it.
04:11With a huge influx of different nationalities comes money, with around one in every 77 people
04:21here having millionaire status.
04:23That's the highest rate of any country.
04:26But alongside those living the good life, comes challenges for some less well-off locals.
04:33Officers Chris and Krishna are on their way to check on a government-owned property.
04:38There's been reports a squatter may have taken up residence.
04:41So what's going on is that we have a trespasser on the property, so we're here with the park staff
04:48to basically just look, search around the area, see if we can engage with the person,
04:54and just let them know of the offense that they're committing.
04:59To me, my fears are when going to evict someone from a property.
05:03It's just the unknown factor.
05:06You know how hostile they're going to be?
05:08Is there more than one person there?
05:10Is there three or four guys there?
05:13What are we going to encounter?
05:14We just do not know.
05:15And that's why I try to take a good handful of officers with me when I go to these kind of jobs.
05:21What was the last time you offered?
05:23Was it last week?
05:25Officers Chris and Krishna and fellow officer James Eli are accompanying the guardian of the property,
05:31Mr Kofi, who wants rid of any squatters.
05:35They don't know who, if anyone, will be inside the house.
05:38That was you that boarded it up or no?
05:41So somebody might be inside.
05:44Somebody isn't there?
05:45Three blocks in the cluster lane or just correct the spot.
05:47Which is good timing.
05:49Hey, what's up, man?
05:50All right.
05:51How you doing?
05:52Hi, good afternoon.
05:54What's going on?
05:55Yeah, I'm Kofi.
05:57I think you know me very well.
06:00We're going to clean up the building to do some works in there,
06:03and you are not supposed to be here.
06:04Okay, so from tomorrow morning, a cleaner will come clean the whole lot from inside.
06:13They gave me the deeds.
06:15In 2014, I needed a place to stay.
06:18So I came up here.
06:19No one's been open for, like, almost 10 years.
06:22So you've never received a warning that you've got to leave the property.
06:25Who put up these boards on that?
06:27Private contractor.
06:28Who put up a lock on that that was broken?
06:31I organized that, and private contractors came in.
06:34Private contractors?
06:35Let me finish.
06:36We cleaned everything up.
06:38I put this on it.
06:41No, let me see.
06:42I put this on it, and I put it locked.
06:44Sorry, what is your name?
06:46What is your name?
06:47What is your name?
06:48No, no, I put that.
06:49I put that.
06:50Sorry?
06:51Mr. Listen to me.
06:52The government is going to clean this place up.
06:54So what's going to happen here is everything that's going to be in here is going to be removed.
06:58I have to be in the building.
06:59Right.
07:00So you have to remove yourself.
07:01So...
07:02Why am I going to leave when they got the property?
07:04This is not your property.
07:06This is government property.
07:07How is it government property?
07:08I didn't believe you.
07:09Well, listen, I'm not here to get into a debate.
07:11How he responded at first, it was kind of like, you know, like anyone would respond, you know,
07:17I live here, and you don't want me to live here any longer.
07:21It's tough, though.
07:22You feel for the person, like, they need somewhere to be.
07:26But we had a job to do.
07:28We tried to do it as best as we can, kind of soften the blow.
07:31Well, I heard none of this to me.
07:33Well, we're here to prevent a breach of peace.
07:36They gave me the views for Morgan's Point.
07:38Okay, so go to Morgan's Point.
07:40Okay.
07:41If the government gave you the views.
07:42Yes.
07:43So what we're going to do is that the cleaner is going to come up, clean up the place,
07:47and we're going to board the place up.
07:49And then you are not supposed to be here because you are only squatting or trespassing.
07:54No way.
07:55But hold on a second.
07:56I think you're more expensive than me.
07:58Yes.
07:59If you want someone to fight this, get a lawyer and do it after me.
08:02No way.
08:03No way.
08:04I've been here for too long.
08:05No way.
08:06If we come back here and you're not gone, you will be arrested for trespassing.
08:11We're giving you the opportunity to quietly vacate by tomorrow, and when we come back, please
08:25don't be here.
08:26You have to go, but write down your trespassing.
08:28Right?
08:29So we're giving you a chance to do the right thing.
08:32That's all.
08:33Okay?
08:34Okay.
08:35All right.
08:36Okay.
08:37Thank you so much.
08:38My concern is where are they going to go?
08:43Where are they going to be after they leave this house?
08:46So, when you come tomorrow, we have to be here.
08:48You never know until you actually go into the scene unless you've dealt with the individual
08:51before, and this is the first time a few of us have actually interacted with them.
08:54So, yeah, we didn't expect whether or not if he was going to be violent or not, or if he
08:59was even going to be here.
09:01I'm irritated because I'm in here always, so I'm waiting for some type of response because
09:06I actually got the deeds, and they're not deeded to me.
09:09I just wanted the deeds for the property because they weren't available for about 50 years.
09:14He is actually trespassing, but we gave him a chance to, you know, to leave our zone.
09:18You know, we tried not to arrest him, but he is in a tight spot right now, and we don't
09:23want to make the rules for him, you know?
09:25I tried to advise them that there are shelters out there that they can take you in.
09:29But we tried to get them, put them in the right direction.
09:32It's a nice property.
09:33Yeah, it is.
09:34It's unfortunate.
09:35Yeah, they need to fix it up.
09:36Yeah, I agree.
09:37And they are working on it.
09:38Yeah, well, tomorrow we plan to come back here and hopefully he will be gone.
09:43He doesn't leave.
09:44Yeah, we have no choice but to affect the arrest of what was passing.
09:49He might not be cooperative as such, you know.
09:53He might be a bit hostile.
09:56Having given the man 24 hours to vacate the property, officers Krishna and Chris will
10:01need to return in the morning.
10:04With summer season in full swing, thousands of sun seekers pass through Bermuda's airport
10:19every day.
10:21That shirt's really, really loud, you know.
10:23We're not allowed loud shirts in Bermuda.
10:26Working alongside the human officers are the police dogs.
10:30Good boy.
10:34Hey Craig.
10:35How are you doing?
10:36Good.
10:37Meet Roni and his handler Officer Robin McNabb who was born on the island.
10:42I've been in the police for 10 years.
10:44I was working for a long time as a graphic designer.
10:47I had family members who had been in the police and I've always liked to help people.
10:52And I saw it advertised that they were going to be looking for Bermudians, so I thought,
10:57why not?
10:58I'll give it a go.
10:59Come here.
11:00Lots.
11:01I got into the canine unit three years ago.
11:04I've always had a dog in my life.
11:06They don't care what you look like.
11:08They don't care how you're feeling.
11:10They don't care what you've done here.
11:11They just love you.
11:13There's a happiness that comes from that.
11:16And when I got offered the position, that was my goal.
11:21The dog that I have now and the bond between us, it's like, that's my partner.
11:26That's my guy.
11:28He's a German Shepherd mixed with the Belgian Malinois.
11:32So he's loyal and crazy at the same time, depending on the day.
11:39With 12 flights coming in from the US every day, sniffer dog Roni is primed to check for any suspicious cases.
11:46His favorite thing is to run on the conveyor belt as the suitcases are coming along.
11:52He loves it.
11:55Roni is a dual purpose.
11:57Police dog.
11:59So he is a detection dog, first and foremost.
12:02He can detect drugs, firearms, ammunition.
12:05Sometimes we'll stand there as I'm waiting for it to come out and you can see he's getting really excited to start.
12:11And then he'll keep looking at me, like, can I go? Can I go?
12:14Illegal drugs is a big deal in Bermuda.
12:16It's something that we're constantly fighting and we're constantly trying to keep up with new types of drugs and new ways of people bringing it in.
12:24I think it's vital for us to be at the airport as well as, you know, the dog potentially finding drugs that are brought in for intensive supply.
12:34Sometimes it's good to have the police there as a sign of reassurance and to show people that we're out there, we are paying attention, we are looking.
12:41So it might deter someone from taking that route of bringing drugs in.
12:46A lot of the dogs we get are from Holland and that's how they begin their training.
12:51So when I give commands to Roni, I give his commands in Dutch rather than English.
12:55Super.
12:56Good job.
12:57Good job.
12:58And then it's also good if we speak a different language than people on the street.
13:03So they're not giving him commands, he's only going to listen to us.
13:06The airport is also British officer Geordie's main patrol patch.
13:11He works in tandem with the dogs in the search for illegal imports.
13:15It's legal up there, so literally every single Air Canada flight that comes in, there's something on it.
13:20In the last two days there's been nothing.
13:22I'm not a big fan of dogs, I don't say I dislike them, but I like working with them.
13:27The canines that both customs and police have are great.
13:31And I'll say one thing, they do their work very well.
13:34When I work, I'm with my dog every day, all day, it's just me and him in the car.
13:38Usually handlers work alone, we don't have a human partner, so he listens to me sing all day.
13:46And I don't even think about the bond really until I realize what I'm noticing about my dog that other people wouldn't notice,
13:53like cues that he's given me that people wouldn't notice.
13:56And I'm like, I really know, you know, I know this dog, I know what he's feeling at the moment,
14:00or what he's expecting at the moment, and it's pretty cool.
14:03The typical alert when they find something is to sit, or freeze.
14:10Come on.
14:12And that's typically what Roni will do, but I have found in the airport when he's on a moving carousel,
14:18he kind of gets a little excited.
14:21Coming through, sorry.
14:23But he definitely makes it known.
14:26Roni has taken an interest in one particular bag, just off a flight from Florida.
14:32He's alerted to this bag, it fell off the belt by itself.
14:38I'm just going to let Customs know to check that bag.
14:41I got a bag.
14:45OK, which one?
14:47It's on the ground actually, it fell off, and it's down on the ground there.
14:51Yeah.
14:53So we would normally just put it back on anyway if something falls off.
15:00And then we will let them, when they go through, let them know to do a secondary search.
15:05Sometimes suitcases will not get picked up if they've seen the canine in the arrivals hall.
15:12I don't want to be too obvious if someone's looking.
15:18It's a good boy.
15:20Robin needs to find the owner of the suspect suitcase, get them stocked, and have the bag's contents searched.
15:27In North East Hamilton, Officer Peter Paul Taylor is two hours into a busy traffic patrol shift.
15:45Excuse me, let's go to fasten this helmet.
15:52Oh.
15:55Got to fasten your helmet.
16:00I do like being out on the road patrolling.
16:06Officer Peter Paul never misses an opportunity to pull out the rule book when it comes to safety.
16:12Showing that the police are out, we're showing a presence, doing our best to deter criminal activity,
16:19deter traffic offences, so that everyone can make it home safe at the end of the day.
16:25Police are out, we're working, and if you're any type of offences, we're going to deal with it.
16:31I've been a police officer for about two and a half years.
16:34Before that, I was in the military for about a decade.
16:39Everyone, Oscar Tenpai, can I have an expiry for Bravo?
16:48Next on his hit list, eagle-eyed Officer Peter Paul has spotted a potential offence.
16:53So the cycle that's in front of me, I can't see an expiry date on the sticker.
17:08Time for vehicle stopped outside of Miles.
17:12So the vehicle should have the sticker on it by the minister.
17:16How are you doing? I'm Constable Taylor, I work for the tactical division.
17:19The reason why I'm stopping you is when I was behind you at Old Boys Point.
17:23I can see the sticker here. The latest one is December 2018.
17:27I called the operations and they told me the bike expired back in 2018.
17:31Do you have your driver's license on you?
17:33All vehicles must be examined annually and display a license sticker.
17:37Officer Peter Paul is enforcing that to the letter.
17:40Just do me a favor, just so we've got the vehicles off the road.
17:43Just push your bike on here and I can move my vehicle down, all right?
17:46Okay.
17:57All right, so just for that you're going to be issued tickets because your bike is unlicensed and uninsured.
18:01It is insured.
18:02It is insured.
18:03Okay, well I'm being told that it's unlicensed and uninsured.
18:06No, it is.
18:07So I'm not going to argue with you.
18:08Okay.
18:09I'm going to issue you both tickets.
18:10Okay.
18:11And then you can go to court and explain to the magistrate that you didn't have proof of the insurance.
18:15Right.
18:16On this.
18:17I do have it.
18:18Okay.
18:19Well, you can't prove it to me right now.
18:20Okay.
18:21So I'm going to issue both tickets, all right?
18:22Okay.
18:23I would describe my style as very proactive.
18:26I believe that I'm fair and professional.
18:29I take everyone, each person with their own merit.
18:32Last time it was able to be on the road was December of 2018.
18:38So when I checked with police operations, that's what they confirmed, that the bike does not have a license and is not insured.
18:45When did you insure it?
18:47January.
18:48End of December.
18:50January.
18:51January of this year?
18:52Yeah.
18:53Okay.
18:54So like I said, because I can't see proof of it now, I'm not saying that you're lying.
18:58I'm just saying that I don't have the proof.
19:01Just give them the information and, hey, this is what we're going to deal with.
19:04And any excuses someone hears is that you are more than welcome to explain it to the magistrate, but this is what we're going to deal with here.
19:15All right, sir.
19:16They have your signature here.
19:17This is the ticket that the psycho is not licensed.
19:19Okay.
19:20And then because it's two separate offences, it's another ticket because of the insurance.
19:25No problem.
19:26All right?
19:27When officer Peter Paul is on the case, it's a double whammy for this driver.
19:31Okay.
19:32So this is the one for no third party insurance.
19:35So you have to go to court.
19:36If you don't go to court, the magistrate will issue a warrant for you.
19:39Okay.
19:40Carry the ticket and carry your insurance fee.
19:41Insurance.
19:42For this one, it's a $250 fine.
19:45If you choose to pay it, you don't have to go to court.
19:47Right.
19:48If you choose not to pay it, then you go to court the same day.
19:51Any questions?
19:52Nope.
19:53All right.
19:54Okay.
19:55Cool.
19:56Thanks.
19:59People that make bad decisions are the ones that make the roads dangerous.
20:04It's a good asset to be very observant to what's happening around me.
20:09And to actually making a difference.
20:24In Bermuda's main police station, Officer Krishna is busy organizing the eviction of a squatter from a government owned house.
20:32Hello.
20:33Hi, Kofi.
20:34Yes, please.
20:35Stay here.
20:36Yeah.
20:37We'll be living here in about five or ten minutes to come down to Thornton.
20:42Okay.
20:43Do you mind if you can call, come and see if one of the risky units?
20:45Fellow officer Chris Douglas is summoning extra manpower.
20:49Oh, bang.
20:50Thanks.
20:51Cool.
20:52Um, so we want to see if we can get another unit to attend to assist us.
20:56So basically the rest unit.
20:58Just in case things pop off and we want extra manpower, just so that we can make sure everything's okay.
21:05Come on, Jim.
21:06Come on, please.
21:07With the team assembled, they head off to assist with enforcing the eviction notice.
21:12Hopefully he will heed the warning and leave on his own.
21:17We don't know what we're going to face up against.
21:20These years we have such things as weapons and machetes and knives.
21:24And we've got to be really prepared for these things, you know, because we don't know what we're going to encounter.
21:29We're here with Park staff, myself, 934-311.
21:58And PSU unit.
22:00Okay.
22:01Morning, sir.
22:02Morning.
22:03Morning, madam.
22:04Right.
22:05Morning.
22:06Officers Krishna and Chris have backup in place, with two more officers from an arrest unit.
22:12We have had times when they refuse to leave.
22:15Some of them want to argue.
22:16Some of them want to fight back.
22:18But still, we have to have our guard up at all times.
22:21We never know when someone's going to strike.
22:24Krishna and Chris prepare to go in, not knowing what they may find.
22:30All right.
22:32Where's this stuff?
22:34Where is this, sir?
22:41If you go back to that, I don't know.
22:44Is someone here, Kofi?
22:51A little bit of a mattress-type thing here.
22:55A little bit of a sheet.
22:58Awesome.
22:59Wonderful.
23:00It appeared that he took our advice and left the premises.
23:04If you need any more help, just give us a call.
23:06All right, and then we go from there, yeah?
23:08Yeah, normally when we have situations like this,
23:11persons would have the place trashed, like stuff everywhere,
23:15and I was actually surprised that it was pretty neat.
23:19Thank you, guys.
23:20With the man disappearing, the building is secured
23:23to ensure he can no longer trespass.
23:26I'm not too sure where he's going to go from here,
23:29but there are facilities out there who will take you in.
23:32And we do want the best for him, really.
23:33We want the best for him.
23:34We want to see him have a place to rest his hair, a shelter.
23:39And for officers Krishna and Chris,
23:41the mystery of where the man might be continues.
23:45Back at the airport, police dog Roni has alerted his handler,
23:58Officer Robin, about a suspect suitcase.
24:02It gives us a reason to just take a second look at that bag
24:05and you never know what you're going to find.
24:08The bag has been claimed and now it's being searched.
24:17The owner, an American woman, has come to Bermuda for her daughter's wedding,
24:22along with her mother.
24:23They sniffed me.
24:25And I went off.
24:26I lit up everything before I put her.
24:30Their important family holiday could be in jeopardy,
24:33and it's been a bumpy ride so far.
24:36First, the electric on the plane didn't work.
24:39Then the plane didn't weigh right, so we had a taxi back.
24:42This is my daughter's wedding.
24:44She had so much trouble.
24:45We usually come to Bermuda by ship.
24:47By far, a much better way to do it.
24:51And now, finally...
24:53It's difficult these days because a lot of the people coming on flights
24:57are coming from places where marijuana is legal.
25:01I'm not a canine handler, but they play a huge role
25:04in the prevention of the imputation of drugs,
25:07but there's very few days go by when there's a canine working at the airport
25:12that it doesn't alert to the presence of a drug in somebody's case.
25:17That doesn't mean to say they have it.
25:19I trust that the dog is going to indicate when he smells what he's supposed to smell,
25:24but there's just so many factors.
25:26But it's good to check.
25:30After a tense wait, the passengers can breathe easy again.
25:37Police and customs officers find nothing illegal, so they're free to go.
25:53Since the eviction notice was served, the man's whereabouts are still a mystery.
25:58Officer Chris Douglas is on patrol.
26:01Being on the beat, as we call it, walking around, for me, it's just the people.
26:07I love the people, especially in the city of Hamilton.
26:10He's with Officer Carol Skerritt, known for her strict style, keeping the drivers...
26:16It's a commercial bay, and the back wheels are clearly in an area that's a commercial parking.
26:23And Chris in line.
26:25So, Dougie, are you going to take it, or are you leaving it?
26:28Um... I guess.
26:31I don't care. I do my job.
26:35That's why I've been named as a bad person, because I ticket them.
26:40Sometimes I try to give people breaks, but I mean, still, the law is the law.
26:46So, normally I would try to give a person a caution, but it is what it is.
26:50What I really enjoy as a community officer, because I'm a parish constable in the city of Hamilton,
26:57just when people come to me with issues that they're having,
27:00I just got, you know, sort of like this great feeling that I'm helping.
27:07To prove just how small a place Bermuda is...
27:11That's the guy from earlier that we got to deal with.
27:14We are a very small island, and you do know mostly everyone.
27:20Hey. We were looking for you earlier.
27:22Just wanted to make sure you're all right with everything.
27:25You guys went back around there?
27:26Yeah, we did.
27:27And they actually removed any of your belongings that were still in there.
27:30Yeah, so they actually removed it, and they're going to put it by the wall.
27:33But if you need anything, just let us know, all right?
27:36You have somewhere to stay?
27:38All right.
27:39So maybe you want to contact, you know, him.
27:41Maybe they might have somewhere that you can go.
27:44You think?
27:45We're just a little concerned about his well-being.
27:48So we made some suggestions as to some places that he can consider staying,
27:51some charitable organizations that deal with the homeless.
27:54Also, if you can go to those organizations, they might be able to do an assessment,
27:58because he might actually need more than just a place to stay,
28:01and hopefully at least takes the advice,
28:03and hopefully his situation can get a little bit better.
28:06All right.
28:07All right.
28:08Cool.
28:09All right.
28:10You have a good day, all right?
28:11All right.
28:12Next time, the island goes cricket crazy.
28:14It's a joyful time in Bermuda.
28:16Everybody's celebrating.
28:17Everybody's happy.
28:18Everybody's partying.
28:19And there is brawling on the beaches.
28:22I'm thinking, this could turn out really quite badly.
28:26I'm thinking, this could turn out really quite badly.
28:27This could turn out really quite badly.
28:28The coasting is running wild.
28:29I'm thinking, I'm thinking, this could turn out really quite a bit.
28:34Right?
28:35All right.
28:36Little ones.
28:37You got nothing.
28:38I'm thinking, this could turn out.
28:39And there's nothing to do.
28:40They're just like, oh yeah.
28:41And I beauxy, I'm thinking...
28:42I'm thinking, this could turn out really well.
28:43You're thinking.
28:44You got nothing wrong?
28:45I guess.
28:46You got nothing wrong?
28:47You got nothing wrong?
28:48I thought you were having a good day.
28:49I mean, I was thinking...
28:51You got nothing wrong?
28:52It could turn out really well.
28:53You're thinking, this could turn out and really cool.
28:55Life is definitely more.