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Off The Record | Ashfaq ishaq Satti | ARY News | 3rd April 2025

(Current Affairs)

Host:
Ashfaq ishaq Satti

Guests:
Khurram Shehzad
Dr Maria Sultan
Syed Muhammad Ali
Transcript
01:00And then, along with that, what we will discuss is another thing, which is that
01:03from the side of the Ministry of Treasury, an economic outlook was issued,
01:06that what was the activity during this time.
01:09It was said that in terms of income, income, non-tax income,
01:13there are many other things in which there was an increase.
01:16In terms of inflation, it is always said that it decreased, but
01:20here, in this program, we will raise many questions.
01:23The question is that, this year that was completed,
01:26during this time, or after that, was the activity okay?
01:30But now, what will be its trickle-down effect?
01:33Secondly, how can the salaried class get relief?
01:37Is there any relief for them?
01:38And what will happen in relation to the claims of increasing the tax net?
01:42The third thing that comes in this is that,
01:45how will we manage our expenditures in the future?
01:49So, these are all the issues, let's talk about them, they are present with us.
01:53Khurram Shahzad, he is the advisor of the finance minister,
01:56the federal finance minister.
01:57Thank you so much, Khurram Shahzad, for your time.
01:59Tell me one thing, we have another agreement with the IMF.
02:04In that, the Prime Minister had said one thing,
02:06that it is possible that this will be the last package with the IMF.
02:12Do you think so, that this is still possible?
02:15Yes, thank you very much, Ishwar, for inviting me to the program.
02:18Look, the first thing is that, if you talk overall,
02:23stability has been achieved, and after that,
02:26now we are talking about bringing growth on a sustainable basis from here.
02:31We are not talking about import-led growth,
02:33we are talking about export-led growth.
02:35And of course, there are some prerequisites for this,
02:37what should be done to ensure export-led growth.
02:40So, you are absolutely right.
02:42According to me, there are 3-4 areas in that,
02:44which prove to be helpful for any business to move forward.
02:48And if it increases a lot, then definitely businesses struggle.
02:53And there is also a cost of capital in that,
02:55that the money that is borrowed is expensive and cheap.
02:59Then there is a lot of dependency on electricity,
03:03especially in the manufacturing sector,
03:04that electricity should be cheap and affordable and also reliable,
03:08so that investment can be made and a large scale can be achieved,
03:12and then it can be exported.
03:14The third is taxation, of course,
03:16how to rationalize taxation, make it equitable and affordable,
03:22so that everyone pays their share of the tax
03:24and at the same time, there is a big investment in affordability.
03:26These are the measures in which there is immediate relief
03:29to industries and households.
03:31I am talking about electricity.
03:33For the long term, we are talking about the multi-buyer market,
03:37how to bring efficiency, how to overhaul the transmission system,
03:42how to add lines, how to bring efficiency,
03:45how to privatize the DISCOs and bring efficiency out of it,
03:49especially the DISCOs.
03:51There was a lot of discussion about DISCOs.
03:53I think it was being discussed at the time
03:55when there was also a discussion about the creation of PIA,
03:58so initially there was a discussion about three DISCOs.
04:00Anyway, we will come to that as well.
04:02Tell me, will this be the last IMF package?
04:07Yes, it should be.
04:09And this is our effort,
04:11this is the effort of the economic team,
04:13I think at the Prime Minister's level,
04:15this is the realization that why are we going to the IMF again and again?
04:17Look, as the Finance Minister always says,
04:19our hand has been posed.
04:21We don't have any other option.
04:23Now we have to do it and we will have to do it.
04:25This is not possible.
04:27Look, I will tell you a simple thing.
04:29Now everyone will have to come together.
04:31This is not possible that one person
04:33will start with his responsibility.
04:35It's a coalition government.
04:37Everyone has to realize it.
04:39There has been a very good development on the agriculture tax
04:41which has shown unity,
04:43has restored unity or rather reiterated unity.
04:45Is it a 2% tax?
04:47No, no, no.
04:49Look, it's not 2%.
04:51It's an agriculture tax.
04:53There are different categories.
04:55How much land do you hold?
04:57What are the crops?
04:59It's very comprehensive.
05:01And it goes up to 30-35%.
05:03It's not a small tax.
05:05The thing is that there was to be legislation
05:07and all the provincial assemblies
05:09have shown unity in this.
05:11The economy has been kept above politics.
05:13This is a very big thing.
05:15This is historic for Pakistan.
05:17We will get rid of the IMF.
05:19We also have foreign loans.
05:21We will have to pay those too.
05:23Where will that money come from
05:25if we leave the IMF plan?
05:31Look, what is the IMF plan?
05:33IMF gives you a complete structure
05:35for a certain number of years
05:37or a number of months.
05:39It tells you to follow this.
05:41It tells you to give back your money
05:43and put yourself on the track
05:45and grow on a sustainable basis.
05:47You know, Ashfaq,
05:49I used to say this
05:51when I was in the private sector
05:53that we get stuck on the track.
05:55We get stuck on our commitments.
05:57This trust deficit came only then.
05:59The IMF said that
06:01the policy should be separated from the tax.
06:03They did that.
06:05The IMF said that
06:07the agriculture tax should be abolished
06:09and the legislation should be done.
06:11We have fulfilled our commitment.
06:13We are fulfilling our commitment
06:15as the Government of Pakistan.
06:17These things are restoring trust.
06:19It is very important to restore trust.
06:21After that, it is very important
06:23to complete the program.
06:25We have suffered a lot.
06:27The nation has suffered a lot
06:29in the last two years.
06:31We have to change this.
06:33It will take some time.
06:35I am hopeful that there should be
06:37more accountability
06:39and people should do their work
06:41and deliver.
06:43We all hope that.
06:45Please tell me
06:47that the active tax payers
06:49we have right now
06:51are around 65 lakhs.
06:536.5 million.
06:55Is this the number?
06:57Now,
06:59in the retail sector,
07:01it is said that
07:03the potential
07:05for tax
07:07is 15 billion dollars.
07:09It is also said that
07:11a simplified sales tax
07:13with 4% and 1% income tax
07:15is possible.
07:17Do you agree with this?
07:19Is this possible?
07:21Is there so much scope and potential?
07:23Ashfaq, what is important for me?
07:25It is important that
07:27I document everything first.
07:29First, I bring everything online.
07:31First, I incentivize
07:33and bridge a trust deficit.
07:37I bridge a trust deficit.
07:39This is more important for me.
07:41Tax will be
07:43an outcome.
07:45It will be a by-product.
07:47If I think that
07:49my tax potential is definitely there.
07:51It can be guessed
07:53that it is 15 billion dollars
07:55or 20 billion dollars.
07:57If the economy grows,
07:59it can go much further.
08:01For me, the issue is
08:03that I bring back the trust
08:05which is between a tax payer
08:07and a tax collector.
08:09First, I bridge the trust deficit
08:11so that people don't think
08:13that if I go online,
08:15most of the exploitation is mine.
08:17Exploitation is of a solid class.
08:19The problem here is
08:21that in the retail sector,
08:23there was a Tajir Dost scheme.
08:25We talked to you about it.
08:27There was no shopkeeper,
08:29no trader, no retailer.
08:31No one was ready to come.
08:33Even if you have to pay 100 rupees,
08:35you have to tell them
08:37what your income is.
08:39Even in that scheme,
08:41it was not successful.
08:43Even if they were not ready,
08:45what solution does the government
08:47have?
08:49On one hand,
08:51you collect from a solid class.
08:53You have increased the percentages.
08:55Even the Prime Minister
08:57is saying that you have to
08:59bridge the trust deficit.
09:01How will this happen?
09:03First of all,
09:05the net income has increased
09:07from 2.5 lakhs to 5 lakhs.
09:09This is a good development.
09:11I think these are the numbers
09:13of the last few months.
09:15Recent numbers will be better.
09:17I think the net income
09:19is due to big retailers,
09:21big wholesalers,
09:23big traders.
09:25There are big retailers
09:27up to 35 lakhs.
09:295 lakhs have already been on-boarded.
09:31We have to bring them
09:33into the net.
09:35There are more filers
09:37and fewer payers.
09:39No, I am coming to that.
09:41We have to document first.
09:43All the documents have to be done first.
09:45When the documents are done,
09:47it will be known
09:49who has how much income.
09:51Do you remember 60,000 rupees?
09:5360,000 rupees were spent per shop.
09:55There was a lot of noise.
09:57We talked about
09:59resolving it amicably.
10:01In the last 1.5 months,
10:03there have been meetings.
10:05Retailers, wholesalers,
10:07traders,
10:0920% of the economy
10:11and 1% is not taxed.
10:13Agriculture has 22-23%
10:15and 1% is not taxed.
10:17Total 45% of the economy
10:19gives you 2%.
10:21Agriculture tax
10:23has been legislated.
10:25Compliance
10:27and collection
10:29will be done in the morning.
10:31Retailers, wholesalers,
10:33traders,
10:35have to be increased
10:37with confidence.
10:39There is a lot of potential tax.
10:41We have to bring them
10:43into the net
10:45and incentivize them.
10:47The third sector is real estate
10:49We have to rationalize tax
10:51so that there is construction,
10:53economic activity,
10:55and local industry is involved.
10:57There are incentives
10:59to improve construction
11:01and dynamics of real estate.
11:03We have to do things
11:05on a sustainable basis.
11:07We have to think
11:09and not go for import-led growth.
11:11We have to reduce expenses,
11:13right-sizing, pension reforms,
11:15privatization.
11:17We have to bring 24 SOEs
11:19to the privatization list.
11:21They have boards.
11:23They have independent people.
11:25There is a big component
11:27on which there has been
11:29a lot of criticism.
11:31The current government
11:33opposes it.
11:35They say that the government
11:37is not focused on large-scale manufacturing.
11:39What are you doing about it?
11:41What is being done?
11:43Who told you?
11:45The economy has a lifeline.
11:47There are three things
11:49I said in the beginning.
11:51First, the cost of capital
11:53which is a big part
11:55of any industry,
11:57business,
11:59has become half.
12:01Thanks to state banks' efforts,
12:03fiscal policies, international commodity prices,
12:05and overall macroeconomic stability,
12:07a big factor has been reduced.
12:09Capital affordability is important.
12:11Expansion numbers will be seen.
12:13The second component
12:15is tax.
12:17We will try to reduce
12:19taxes from the formal sector.
12:21We will try to reduce burden
12:23on the salaried class.
12:25How will you do that?
12:27It has been acknowledged
12:29by the Prime Minister
12:31that it should be done.
12:33What have you thought about it
12:35in the coming budget?
12:37It is a matter of relief.
12:39I cannot discuss the numbers
12:41but our efforts are to reduce
12:43taxes on the salaried class.
12:45We will discuss this with the IMF
12:47when the time comes.
12:49The IMF will sit down
12:51and discuss the budget.
12:53The IMF has listened to us
12:55and has its own point of view.
12:57They have praised the mini-budget.
12:59They have said that they are
13:01doing structural reforms,
13:03containing inflation,
13:05and talking about sustainable growth.
13:07If you read their press release,
13:09it is very important.
13:11They have mentioned the challenges
13:13and the things to be done on track.
13:15They have achieved the majority
13:17in the quantitative benchmarks.
13:19If we complete this programme,
13:21it is our need,
13:23not the IMF's.
13:25We need to do structural reforms
13:27and reduce the cost of doing business.
13:29We need to rationalise taxes on the salaried class
13:31and reduce the burden on the formal sector.
13:33We need to distribute the untaxed
13:35and under-taxed sectors
13:37and reduce the burden on them.
13:39We need to create a
13:41fair and equitable tax structure.
13:43The biggest development for this
13:45is that the tax policy has been
13:47separated from the collection policy.
13:49This was a huge conflict.
13:51The tax collector used to make the same policy.
13:53He used to say,
13:55I will collect the tax here and there.
13:57My collection will be complete,
13:59but your economy will slow down.
14:01Someone else will plan the tax
14:03according to the economic value.
14:05I keep saying that
14:07tax is not just for the collection.
14:09Tax also gives you directions
14:11on where to take the economy.
14:13Tax is a by-product.
14:15Secondly,
14:17we have been criticising the government
14:19for a long time.
14:21When you are not part of the government,
14:23we used to say that
14:25tax revenue is important,
14:27but it is important to stop
14:29the bleeds.
14:31Optics matter a lot
14:33and they also criticise.
14:35Do you have a government policy
14:37on this?
14:39Recently,
14:41the Arkan Assembly,
14:43the Arkan Senate,
14:45the Subahi Sata,
14:47the Tazino Arash,
14:49the FVR cars.
14:51Optics have a negative impact.
14:53What have you thought about this?
14:55I have already
14:57pointed out that
14:59there are 4-5 areas
15:01on the expenditure side.
15:03First of all,
15:05right-sizing of the federal government.
15:07There are 43 ministries
15:09and 400 departments.
15:11We are talking about consolidating,
15:13merging,
15:15and devolving.
15:17There is IT, science and technology,
15:19power, industries, commerce,
15:21education and health.
15:23There are many ministries
15:25in different waves.
15:27The federal government
15:29is talking about
15:31cutting the expenditure.
15:33We have already taken
15:35an action plan.
15:37We have already decided
15:39to cut 1.5 lakh posts.
15:41We have already decided
15:43to reduce the size of the federal government.
15:45I am talking about right-sizing.
15:47Right-sizing.
15:49The federal government
15:51will reduce its expenses
15:53and take out its footprint.
15:55You are talking about right-sizing.
15:57There has been an increase
15:59in the number of deputies.
16:01There are new ministers.
16:03For example,
16:05there are 3 new ministers.
16:07I am talking about the ministers.
16:09It is not a matter of adding 3 people.
16:11We are talking about reducing
16:13the inefficiencies.
16:15I am saying that
16:17I will pay Rs.1000
16:19if I get an impact.
16:21The impact should be
16:23driven by the departments
16:25and the federal government.
16:27It should be reduced.
16:29You have given it to the provinces.
16:31You have given it to the provinces.
16:33The provinces should devolve
16:35the third layer of democracy.
16:37We are talking about that.
16:39Right-sizing in the federal government
16:41and reducing the expenditure
16:43of $3 billion.
16:45Pension reforms.
16:47The annual benefit of Rs.170 billion
16:49has already happened.
16:51The benefit of Rs.1.7 trillion
16:53has already happened.
16:55We have stopped bleeding.
16:57This is a big thing.
16:59When you get injured,
17:01you stop the bleeding.
17:03The bleeding has stopped.
17:05There is still stock.
17:07We have to do something
17:09about it.
17:11The third thing is
17:13to take the SOEs towards privatization.
17:15You will hear about the fourth
17:17civil services reform.
17:19I am talking about privatization
17:21We are talking about
17:23reducing the SOEs.
17:25The biggest thing is debt.
17:27The benefit of Rs.1 trillion
17:29has already happened.
17:31We expect that the inflation
17:33should be contained.
17:35The state bank will look at it.
17:37If everything is in continuity
17:39and there is a framework,
17:41everything will be better.
17:43If there is continuity and stability,
17:45we will achieve it.
17:47Thank you so much.
17:49We will take a break.
17:51We will be back after the break.
18:19What is the influence of Pakistan in this area?
18:21What does Pakistan have to do?
18:23What is the purpose of the
18:25PAK-US relations?
18:27On one hand, Pakistan's role is being
18:29praised.
18:31On the other hand,
18:33Pakistan's companies are
18:35banned from the US.
18:37On the other hand,
18:39Pakistan's name was included
18:41in the list of Faires.
18:43It was an orange list.
18:45What is the status of that list?
18:47What are the security concerns
18:49related to Afghanistan?
18:51How can India negate
18:53the increasing influence of
18:55Pakistan in Afghanistan?
18:57Dr. Maria Sultan will be with us.
18:59Thank you for your time.
19:01She talks about international
19:03relations and security issues.
19:05Syed Muhammad Ali will also be
19:07with us.
19:09He talks about national security.
19:11Dr. Maria, explain to me
19:13that the Afghan policy
19:15has clarity.
19:17Or is there
19:19confusion?
19:21Let's say that
19:23Sadiq's visit should have
19:25been done earlier.
19:27What will happen next?
19:31I think
19:33Pakistan's Afghan policy
19:35has not only clarity
19:37but also
19:39clear red lines.
19:41First of all,
19:43the red lines
19:45are the
19:47Afghan immigrants
19:49who are currently in Pakistan.
19:51We need a final decision
19:53not only from the international
19:55agencies but also from the
19:57countries which promised
19:59that they will stay in Pakistan
20:01for some time and then
20:03either return to their countries
20:05or return to Afghanistan.
20:07Secondly,
20:09Afghanistan is currently
20:11a transit trade agreement
20:13where Afghanistan is
20:15seen as a
20:17non-international
20:19country.
20:21However,
20:23in the Global
20:25Terrorism Index,
20:27Pakistan is
20:29coming second
20:31in terms of
20:33non-international terrorism
20:35among the most
20:37affected countries.
20:39Obviously,
20:41there are some
20:43concerns for you.
20:45The Army Chief
20:47said that Pakistan is
20:49moving from a soft country
20:51to a hard country.
20:53If we want to
20:55maintain our borders
20:57with Afghanistan
20:59or the international
21:01world,
21:03it is not possible
21:05to ask Pakistan
21:07to stop international
21:09terrorism.
21:11On the other hand,
21:13if Afghanistan's land
21:15is used for international
21:17terrorism,
21:19it should not be used
21:21as a deterrent.
21:23These are the conditions
21:25and the red lines.
21:27I think this is the first
21:29time in Pakistan's
21:31security policy
21:33that we want a better
21:35security for our
21:37people.
22:05India has more influence
22:07than Pakistan.
22:09Pakistan is a landlocked country
22:11and Pakistan is its immediate neighbor.
22:13How did this happen?
22:15I think
22:17this is a fact
22:19that Pakistan and
22:21Afghanistan have a
22:23long history of
22:25public relations
22:27and
22:29civil relations
22:31and geographic relations.
22:33But unfortunately,
22:35you know that since 1947
22:37our relations with Afghanistan
22:39have not been so pleasant.
22:41Despite this,
22:43in the last 45 years,
22:45Pakistan has not
22:47demonstrated
22:49and facilitated
22:51its relations
22:53with the Afghan people
22:55as much as it has done
22:57with the people of Afghanistan.
22:59Okay,
23:01so three and a half years ago
23:03when the Western military
23:05left Afghanistan,
23:07I think that
23:09some people in Pakistan
23:11were under the misconception
23:13that Afghanistan
23:15would become
23:17a place of peace and harmony
23:19and there would be
23:21rivers of peace.
23:23I don't know
23:25what misconceptions
23:27were there.
23:29But on the
23:31request of the Taliban,
23:33negotiations were made with the TTP
23:35and 5,000 to 6,000
23:37terrorists of the TTP
23:39were allowed to settle in Pakistan
23:41with weapons.
23:43I think that this was
23:45a very big
23:47imaginary blunder
23:49in the history of Pakistan
23:51and we are
23:53giving the basis of this
23:55in the form of hundreds of
23:57concessions because
23:59what we did in Gaines
24:01after many sacrifices
24:03as a result of many
24:05operations,
24:07as a result of these
24:09concessions,
24:11it seems that the enemy
24:13has helped to organize
24:15these terrorist organizations
24:17more by giving them
24:19a relief.
24:21Now let's come to
24:23Afghanistan.
24:25Let me tell you that
24:27two months
24:29before the Taliban
24:31came to power,
24:33the current special envoy
24:35for Afghanistan,
24:37Ambassador Mohammad Sadiq,
24:39he said that
24:41once the Taliban
24:43come to power,
24:45you will have to go to them
24:47with the request that
24:49please control the TTP and they
24:51will not control it.
24:53This is what he told me
24:55four years ago.
24:57And the reason for this is that
24:59he has a very deep connection
25:01and understanding with
25:03strategic culture,
25:05thought and system.
25:07That is why he has been given
25:09such an important responsibility
25:11again in such difficult
25:13circumstances.
25:15And people from every school
25:17of thought and region
25:19of Afghanistan
25:21and as Dr. Maria said,
25:23I totally agree with her that
25:25no responsible state in the world
25:27adopts such
25:29practices
25:31for its citizens
25:33as Pakistan did.
25:35You will remember that
25:37scene when the last
25:39C-17 of the US Air Force
25:41was taking off from
25:43Bagram Air Base,
25:45many Afghans who worked
25:47in their NGOs were hanging from it
25:49but it was not possible
25:51to take them or their lives.
25:53And even today,
25:55there are lakhs of such Afghans
25:57who want to settle
25:59in the US, Germany,
26:01European Union and Britain.
26:03Whereas the situation there is
26:05that the visa holders
26:07who are Palestinians
26:09or Turks,
26:11are being deported
26:13from their country.
26:15We have seen that a PhD student
26:17has been detained.
26:19I just want to say that
26:21our relations with the US
26:23are based on
26:25the common concern
26:27that Pakistan and the US
26:29consider Afghanistan
26:31as the center of global
26:33and regional terrorism
26:35and put it at risk
26:37for their national security
26:39and world peace.
26:41But that doesn't mean
26:43that the US will give you
26:45the same commitment
26:47that they have with NATO.
26:49They want to make
26:51every contribution.
26:53I would like to take this point
26:55and go to Dr. Maria.
26:57Dr. Maria, tell me
26:59how relevant is Pakistan
27:01right now?
27:03The meeting of the US delegation
27:05on 20th March and
27:07the role of Zalm-e-Khalilzad
27:09right now, what is their role?
27:11Pakistan's relevance
27:13with the US
27:15is based on
27:17Pakistan's strategic location.
27:19Pakistan's strategic location
27:21not only makes Pakistan
27:23the neighbor of Afghanistan,
27:25Iran, Saudi Arabia,
27:27but also of India,
27:29China, Russia
27:31and Central Asia.
27:33This is the only country
27:35in the world
27:37that plays a key role
27:39in the security zones
27:41and it is very important
27:43for the US to look
27:45at the situation
27:47in this area.
27:49There is a lot of talk
27:51about Zalm-e-Khalilzad
27:53that he went to Afghanistan
27:55and spoke to the Taliban
27:57but we forget a few things
27:59about him.
28:01One is that he is the same
28:03person who played
28:05a key role
28:07in the Taliban's
28:09attack on Pakistan.
28:11Pakistan's role
28:13in the Taliban's
28:15attack on Pakistan
28:17is very important.
28:19Pakistan's role
28:21in the Taliban's
28:23attack on Pakistan
28:25is very important.
28:27Pakistan's role
28:29in the Taliban's
28:31attack on Pakistan
28:33is very important.
28:35Pakistan's role
28:37in the Taliban's
28:39attack on Pakistan
28:41is very important.
28:43Pakistan's role
28:45in the Taliban's
28:47attack on Pakistan
28:49is very important.
28:51Pakistan's role
28:53in the Taliban's
28:55attack on Pakistan
28:57is very important.
28:59Pakistan's role
29:01in the Taliban's
29:03attack on Pakistan
29:05is very important.
29:07Pakistan's role
29:09in the Taliban's
29:11attack on Pakistan
29:13is very important.
29:15Pakistan's role
29:17in the Taliban's
29:19attack on Pakistan
29:21is very important.
29:23Pakistan's role
29:25in the Taliban's
29:27attack on Pakistan
29:29is very important.
29:31Pakistan's role
29:33in the Taliban's
29:35attack on Pakistan
29:37is very important.
29:39Pakistan's role
29:41in the Taliban's
29:43attack on Pakistan
29:45is very important.
29:47Pakistan's role
29:49in the Taliban's
29:51attack on Pakistan
29:53is very important.
29:55Pakistan's role
29:57in the Taliban's
29:59attack on Pakistan
30:01is very important.
30:03Pakistan's role
30:05in the Taliban's
30:07attack on Pakistan
30:09is very important.
30:11Pakistan's role
30:13in the Taliban's
30:15attack on Pakistan
30:17is very important.
30:19Pakistan's role
30:21in the Taliban's
30:23attack on Pakistan
30:25is very important.
30:27Pakistan's role
30:29in the Taliban's
30:31attack on Pakistan
30:33is very important.
30:35Pakistan's role
30:37in the Taliban's
30:39attack on Pakistan
30:41is very important.
30:43Pakistan's role
30:45in the Taliban's
30:47attack on Pakistan
30:49is very important.
30:51Pakistan's role
30:53in the Taliban's
30:55attack on Pakistan
30:57is very important.
31:27Pakistan's role
31:29in the Taliban's
31:31attack on Pakistan
31:33is very important.
31:35Pakistan's role
31:37in the Taliban's
31:39attack on Pakistan
31:41is very important.
31:43Pakistan's role
31:45in the Taliban's
31:47attack on Pakistan
31:49is very important.
31:51Pakistan's role
31:53in the Taliban's
31:55attack on Pakistan
31:57is very important.
32:25Pakistan's role
32:27in the Taliban's
32:29attack on Pakistan
32:31is very important.
32:33Pakistan's role
32:35in the Taliban's
32:37attack on Pakistan
32:39is very important.
32:41Pakistan's role
32:43in the Taliban's
32:45attack on Pakistan
32:47is very important.
32:49Pakistan's role
32:51in the Taliban's
32:53attack on Pakistan
32:55is very important.
32:57Pakistan's role
32:59in the Taliban's
33:01attack on Pakistan
33:03is very important.
33:05Pakistan's role
33:07in the Taliban's
33:09attack on Pakistan
33:11is very important.
33:13Pakistan's role
33:15in the Taliban's
33:17attack on Pakistan
33:19is very important.
33:21Pakistan is the largest
33:23terrorist organization
33:25in the world.
33:27Pakistan is the largest
33:29terrorist organization
33:31in the world.
33:33In the coming days,
33:35Pakistan will be
33:37in contact with
33:39the US.
33:41In the coming days,
33:43Pakistan will be
33:45in contact with
33:47the US.
33:49In the coming days,
33:51Pakistan will be
33:53in contact with
33:55the US.
33:57In the coming days,
33:59Pakistan will be
34:01in contact with
34:03the US.
34:05In the coming days,
34:07Pakistan will be
34:09in contact with
34:11the US.
34:13In the coming days,
34:15Pakistan will be
34:17in contact with
34:19the US.
34:21In the coming days,
34:23Pakistan will be
34:25in contact with
34:27the US.
34:29In the coming days,
34:31Pakistan will be
34:33in contact with
34:35the US.
34:37In the coming days,
34:39Pakistan will be
34:41in contact with
34:43the US.
34:45In the coming days,
34:47Pakistan will be
34:49in contact with
34:51the US.
34:53In the coming days,
34:55Pakistan will be
34:57in contact with
34:59the US.
35:01In the coming days,
35:03Pakistan will be
35:05in contact with
35:07the US.
35:09In the coming days,
35:11Pakistan will be
35:13in contact with
35:15the US.
35:17In the coming days,
35:19Pakistan will be
35:21in contact with
35:23the US.
35:25In the coming days,
35:27Pakistan will be
35:29in contact with
35:31the US.
35:33In the coming days,
35:35Pakistan will be
35:37in contact with
35:39the US.
35:41In the coming days,
35:43Pakistan will be
35:45in contact with
35:47the US.
35:49In the coming days,
35:51Pakistan will be
35:53in contact with
35:55the US.
35:57In the coming days,
35:59Pakistan will be
36:01in contact with
36:03the US.
36:05In the coming days,
36:07Pakistan will be
36:09in contact with
36:11the US.
36:13In the coming days,
36:15Pakistan will be
36:17in contact with
36:19the US.
36:21In the coming days,
36:23Pakistan will be
36:25in contact with
36:27the US.
36:29In the coming days,
36:31Pakistan will be
36:33in contact with
36:35the US.
36:37In the coming days,
36:39Pakistan will be
36:41in contact with
36:43the US.
36:45In the coming days,
36:47Pakistan will be
36:49in contact with
36:51the US.
36:53In the coming days,
36:55Pakistan will be
36:57in contact with
36:59the US.
37:01In the coming days,
37:03Pakistan will be
37:05in contact with
37:07the US.
37:09In the coming days,
37:11Pakistan will be
37:13in contact with
37:15the US.
37:17In the coming days,
37:19Pakistan will be
37:21in contact with
37:23the US.
37:25In the coming days,
37:27Pakistan will be
37:29in contact with
37:31the US.
37:33In the coming days,
37:35Pakistan will be
37:37in contact with
37:39the US.
37:41In the coming days,
37:43Pakistan will be
37:45in contact with
37:47the US.
37:49In the coming days,
37:51Pakistan will be
37:53in contact with
37:55the US.
37:57In the coming days,
37:59Pakistan will be
38:01in contact with
38:03the US.
38:05In the coming days,
38:07Pakistan will be
38:09in contact with
38:11the US.
38:13In the coming days,
38:15Pakistan will be
38:17in contact with
38:19the US.
38:21In the coming days,
38:23Pakistan will be
38:25in contact with
38:27the US.
38:29In the coming days,
38:31Pakistan will be
38:33in contact with
38:35the US.
38:37In the coming days,
38:39Pakistan will be
38:41in contact with
38:43the US.
38:45In the coming days,
38:47Pakistan will be
38:49in contact with
38:51the US.
38:53In the coming days,
38:55Pakistan will be
38:57in contact with
38:59the US.
39:01In the coming days,
39:03Pakistan will be
39:05in contact with
39:07the US.
39:09In the coming days,
39:11Pakistan will be
39:13in contact with
39:15the US.
39:17In the coming days,
39:19Pakistan will be
39:21in contact with
39:23the US.
39:25In the coming days,
39:27Pakistan will be
39:29in contact with
39:31the US.
39:33In the coming days,
39:35Pakistan will be
39:37in contact with
39:39the US.
39:41In the coming days,
39:43Pakistan will be
39:45in contact with
39:47the US.
39:49In the coming days,
39:51Pakistan will be
39:53in contact with
39:55the US.
39:57In the coming days,
39:59Pakistan will be
40:01in contact with
40:03the US.
40:05In the coming days,
40:07Pakistan will be
40:09in contact with
40:11the US.
40:13In the coming days,
40:15Pakistan will be
40:17in contact with
40:19the US.
40:21In the coming days,
40:23Pakistan will be
40:25in contact with
40:27the US.
40:29In the coming days,
40:31Pakistan will be
40:33in contact with
40:35the US.
40:37In the coming days,
40:39Pakistan will be
40:41in contact with
40:43the US.
40:45In the coming days,
40:47Pakistan will be
40:49in contact with
40:51the US.
40:53In the coming days,
40:55Pakistan will be
40:57in contact with
40:59the US.
41:01In the coming days,
41:03Pakistan will be
41:05in contact with
41:07the US.
41:09In the coming days,
41:11Pakistan will be
41:13in contact with
41:15the US.
41:17In the coming days,
41:19Pakistan will be
41:21in contact with
41:23the US.
41:25In the coming days,
41:27Pakistan will be
41:29in contact with
41:31the US.
41:33In the coming days,
41:35Pakistan will be
41:37in contact with
41:39the US.
41:41In the coming days,
41:43Pakistan will be
41:45in contact with
41:47the US.
41:49In the coming days,
41:51Pakistan will be
41:53in contact with
41:55the US.
41:57In the coming days,
41:59Pakistan will be
42:01in contact with
42:03the US.
42:05In the coming days,
42:07Pakistan will be
42:09in contact with
42:11the US.
42:13In the coming days,
42:15Pakistan will be
42:17in contact with
42:19the US.
42:21In the coming days,
42:23Pakistan will be
42:25in contact with
42:27the US.
42:29In the coming days,
42:31Pakistan will be
42:33in contact with
42:35the US.
42:37In the coming days,
42:39Pakistan will be
42:41in contact with
42:43the US.
42:45In the coming days,
42:47Pakistan will be
42:49in contact with
42:51the US.
42:53In the coming days,
42:55Pakistan will be
42:57in contact with
42:59the US.
43:01In the coming days,
43:03Pakistan will be
43:05in contact with
43:07the US.
43:09In the coming days,
43:11Pakistan will be
43:13in contact with
43:15the US.
43:17In the coming days,
43:19Pakistan will be
43:21in contact with
43:23the US.
43:25In the coming days,
43:27Pakistan will be
43:29in contact with
43:31the US.
43:33In the coming days,
43:35Pakistan will be
43:37in contact with
43:39the US.

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