Aiteraz Hai | Aniqa Nisar | Ali Pervaiz Malik | Barrister Saif | ARY News | 23rd March 2025
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07:47Yes, what I don't understand is that the reasons you mentioned,
07:52the coming of the Tashkeelahs, or the coming of the Taliban from Afghanistan,
07:58these are all the reasons because of which I think that we should have had a lot of interaction with them.
08:05Our ambassador should have been someone who understood the Pashtun language, the Pashtun culture.
08:10The person who is sitting there as an ambassador, I am not personally attacking him,
08:16but I think that his credibility or functionality is not as effective as if a Pashtun from KP or Balochistan was sitting there.
08:27The reason for this is that look, there is a particular culture of the Afghans,
08:31and under that culture, the interference in Pakistan, the attacks,
08:34there are some demands of our own Pashtun Wali to stop them,
08:38we can say those things and the Afghans understand them.
08:41But this is the reason, because there is a problem there,
08:45we should have had a lot of interaction with them.
08:48If there was, then I think that the Tashkeelahs you are talking about,
08:52or other things, for example, their intensity would not have been so much.
08:57The second thing is that we should accept one thing,
09:01that okay, we talk about Afghanistan to the extent of accusing it,
09:05and we should do it if Taliban attacks are made by them.
09:09But on the other hand, we also have to see if the Afghan government really has the power
09:14or the resources and authority to stop the infiltration on its borders.
09:19Because we are not able to stop it on our side.
09:22You are saying that the Afghan government is a stamp paper government.
09:26Mr. Barista, they do not have any authority on their own borders.
09:31And if this is not the case, then why are they sitting in the government?
09:34Anika, look, I am not saying this at all.
09:38The government of Afghanistan is currently a de facto government,
09:41and now President Trump is also talking about accepting it.
09:44But no one can control this border area of Afghanistan.
09:49I am ready to give you this on paper today, on a stamp paper.
09:52This is the most difficult border area in the world to control.
09:58Russia was able to control it during its 10-year rule,
10:02when the Russian army was a superpower in Afghanistan.
10:06The United States could not control the infiltration for 20 years in Afghanistan.
10:10We made all the arrangements, did everything,
10:13but still smuggling and infiltration is going on.
10:16So this is a difficult task.
10:18If you only depend on the capacity of the Afghan government to manage this,
10:23then I think it is difficult.
10:26Yes, but if the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani army
10:29or the Pakistani law enforcement agencies
10:32work together with understanding,
10:35then we can gain control of the borders to a large extent.
10:38And for that, it is important that you talk to them.
10:41Talk to them later, but first of all,
10:43the issues of KPK and alliance between Afghanistan and Pakistan
10:46need to be resolved at this time.
10:49And generally, this does not happen, Mr. Peres,
10:52but in my own program, two leaders of PMLN,
10:55Amir Maqam and Rana Sanaullah,
10:58have praised the CM KPK,
11:01that at least they understand the issues of security
11:04and national security and national issues.
11:07So should we also understand that the issues with Afghanistan are being resolved,
11:10but the snow is melting there too.
11:13Look, the snow should melt,
11:16but here we are also doing politics.
11:19PMLN has its own politics.
11:22We have our own politics.
11:25And the political tension,
11:28you cannot solve it 100% in any democratic system.
11:31This is in the essence of democracy,
11:34that in political forces,
11:37in political parties,
11:40there should be a little disagreement
11:43and confrontation, but it should be political.
11:46It should not affect national interests.
11:49Because then you are harming the state
11:52instead of strengthening it.
11:55As far as KPK is concerned,
11:58I can say that we have always tried
12:01to do as much understanding as possible with loyalty.
12:04But more than praising loyalty,
12:07we also have to do some practical actions.
12:10For example, we have a lot of activities
12:13in Net Hydel Profit.
12:16We have other activities of about 900 billion.
12:19I would say that if they give us our money,
12:22then maybe we can fight this war of terrorism ourselves.
12:25We will not need the help of loyalty.
12:28So are there discussions about this with loyalty?
12:31Many times, many times,
12:34letters have been written,
12:37meetings have been held in the Apex Committee,
12:40high-powered and high-level meetings.
12:43There is top leadership among them.
12:46We have spoken in front of them.
12:49And many times we have been assured
12:52that we will give money, but we are not giving.
12:55On the other hand, when, God forbid,
12:58there is a mischief, an attack,
13:01such a situation arises,
13:04then the Prime Minister and his ministers
13:07attack KP in the same language
13:10that if you give us resources,
13:13then we will make CTD strong and effective.
13:16But because all the national security agencies
13:19are under your control.
13:22CTD will be under your control.
13:25It is a police issue.
13:28We have heard that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf
13:31has strengthened the police so much
13:34that after that police reforms were given examples.
13:37Where did those police reforms go, Barrister?
13:40If you look at the constitutional paradigm
13:43of national security,
13:46law and order is the responsibility of the provinces.
13:49National security is always the responsibility
13:52of the federal government.
13:55Therefore, the terrorism that is happening
13:58in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is in the paradigm
14:01of national security.
14:04So it has to have a synergy.
14:07Your provincial government,
14:10I will ask the question of loyalty to loyalty.
14:13My question to you is that at this time
14:16we used to hear a narrative of the police
14:19that KPK police reforms have become ideal police now.
14:22This was said in the previous era of PTI.
14:25Now in this era, when Ali Amin Gandapur
14:28has come as CM,
14:31were those claims true or not?
14:34They were absolutely true.
14:37I am still proud of my police
14:40and I am proud of the other forces
14:43that should imitate us.
14:46And the reason for that is that
14:49our police has been martyred
14:52in the 465-year war.
14:55They have sacrificed their lives
14:58in that war in which KPK has no role.
15:01That war is based on the policies of loyalty.
15:04We are the battlefield
15:07and in the battlefield our police
15:10has no role.
15:13I am sorry I am cutting you short.
15:16Are you talking about the era
15:19when it was decided that TTP will be rehabilitated?
15:22Are you talking about the era of Imran Khan?
15:25I don't know anything about rehabilitating TTP.
15:28The decision was made
15:31in the role of the third party
15:34of the Afghan government
15:37to talk to TTP.
15:40The negotiations were
15:43in the role of the third party
15:46of the Afghan government.
15:49All these negotiations
15:52were started on the initiative
15:55of the Afghan government.
15:58The negotiations ended after two months
16:01and then the war started again.
16:04The end of the war
16:07depends on the loyalty of the government
16:10and the loyalty of TTP.
16:13We are not going to do
16:16any new operation.
16:19We are already in the war.
16:22We will make it more effective.
16:25There is no new operation
16:28on the cards at this time.
16:31Does KPK's government
16:34have a satisfactory answer to this?
16:37The loyalty of KPK
16:40is based
16:43on their incompetence.
16:46I know the word incompetence
16:49is a harsh word
16:52but our Prime Minister
16:55used the word operation
16:58without considering the fact
17:01of its implications.
17:04This created a problem
17:07in KPK.
17:10After the meeting of
17:13the National Security Council
17:16we were given the impression
17:19that a new operation
17:22is going to be started.
17:25But this impression
17:28was spread by the media.
17:31People were worried
17:34and we said that
17:37there is no need
17:40for a new operation.
17:43But the intelligence based operations
17:46and the operations that are being
17:49targeted need to be strengthened.
17:52We need our own resources
17:55and the army needs to be strengthened.
17:58I hope that the loyalty of KPK
18:01and the Balochistan government
18:04and the Sindh government
18:07can get rid of this problem.
18:10We will talk about the economy
18:13and Pakistan's economy.
18:16The security problems
18:19are directly and indirectly
18:22targeting the economy.
18:25We will talk after the break.
18:28Welcome back after the break.
18:31The Prime Minister
18:34is making a big claim
18:37that he has achieved
18:40the goal of boosting the economy.
18:43But has the system really improved?
18:46Do you feel that the economy
18:49of Pakistan is improving?
18:52Will the microeconomic indicators
18:55and the trickle down impact
18:58of the pandemic affect the economy?
19:01But we are not just talking
19:04about the microeconomics.
19:07We are talking about the
19:10economic development.
19:13The executive board will give
19:16us 1 billion dollars.
19:19We have the minister of
19:22petroleum with us.
19:25He is an expert on the economy
19:28and he will support the
19:31government in other fields.
19:34Mr Alizab will you please
19:37tell us about the economic
19:40On the one hand, we had to reduce the levy on petroleum smuggling because there was a
19:46significant reduction in petroleum smuggling in the international market.
19:49We kept our levy high and the trickle-down impact, which was due to a reduction in petroleum
19:56on the international level, was not reached to our people.
19:59Now, by doing a favor, we are being told that we will put that impact in electricity, we
20:04will reduce electricity prices.
20:05So, it was the right of the people that if petroleum is being sold cheaply in the international
20:11market, then it is being given a trickle-down effect and given an impact.
20:15Look, Anika, the request is that the storm of inflation that we are seeing today, we
20:23need to understand that its foundation, those records were in the Khasars, which were given
20:29to us by Imran Khan's government.
20:31So, if we want to make people's lives easier, and the biggest tax that falls on a common
20:37man like a burden, like a storm, like a storm, which is in the form of inflation, if we want
20:43to control it, then we have to control our losses.
20:47So, if we want to control the losses, then we will have to run our economy responsibly.
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