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00:00I love my time co-hosting with my first guest on The View.
00:04But my favorite part was dishing with her
00:06behind the scenes about our favorite topic, our exes.
00:09Always used to talk about that.
00:11Now she's sharing stories in her brilliant
00:14off-Broadway show, My First Ex-Husband.
00:17So please welcome my friend, Joy Behar.
00:19Hi.
00:20Hi.
00:21Hi.
00:22Hi.
00:23Hi.
00:24Hi.
00:24Hi.
00:25Hi.
00:26Hi.
00:27Hi.
00:28Hi.
00:29Hi.
00:30Here we are again.
00:37Sit down, lady.
00:39Oh my gosh, Joy, I gotta tell you,
00:42I miss you so much.
00:43And I miss sitting with you at The View.
00:45I know.
00:46We had the most fun.
00:47We miss you there.
00:48Oh, thank you.
00:49I mean it.
00:50Well, you were there for all the good stuff.
00:51The fight between Rosie and Hasselbeck, remember?
00:54Yes, I was.
00:55You were there for that.
00:56I was there for some good stuff.
00:57You were there, yeah.
00:58We used to have so much fun on screen at the table,
01:02because I sat right next to you.
01:04And then when the show was over, we had a lot of fun.
01:08But it's like, I thought about it, Joy.
01:10You've been doing The View for nearly 30 years.
01:13I'm what they call, oh, thank you.
01:16I am what they call a lifer.
01:19You're a lifer.
01:20I'm a lifer.
01:21Okay.
01:22I had a life sentence.
01:23Do you ever see yourself like, do you see yourself doing,
01:26I'm like, you just need it on The View.
01:28Do you see yourself even going longer?
01:30Oh, I don't know.
01:31A person has to die at some point.
01:33I wasn't thinking about all of that, Joy.
01:37I'm just, you're so funny.
01:38I just think, because I watch you.
01:40We over here watch you every day after this show ends,
01:43and then we watch you.
01:44But your opinions and everything,
01:47the world is so polarized right now.
01:49It's so much chaos.
01:50Y'all have the political discussions,
01:54and sometimes it gets very, very heated.
01:56But you manage to cut through everything with your humor.
01:59I just gotta ask you, I know I'm a comic.
02:01How do you do it so effortlessly?
02:03You know, what was your position in the family as a child?
02:06Because I don't know, what was it?
02:07I was always the one that kept the peace.
02:09What would make everybody laugh?
02:11Okay, well, that's my role too.
02:13When things would get tough, and they would get tense,
02:16I'd come in with something, and everybody would laugh,
02:18and it would dissipate all of the rage.
02:20And we became comedians, because, I don't know,
02:22I grew up with a depressed mother.
02:25She was kind of bipolar, I think.
02:27Your mother was?
02:28She must have been.
02:29I mean, we didn't call it that in those days.
02:31She has, my Aunt Rose used to say,
02:32you know, so-and-so has a split personality.
02:34I'd say, really, what does that mean?
02:36She'd say, well, sometimes she says hello,
02:37sometimes she don't wanna be bothered.
02:39Yes, I had a lot of those aunties.
02:41Yeah, so those were split personalities in those days.
02:44But my mother, she would be either on the table
02:46dancing and singing, or she'd be at the sink saying,
02:49dear God, give me the strength to wash these brassieres.
02:51So you'd never know where she was coming from.
02:55So as a child, I would try to make her laugh.
02:57Yeah, because you knew that it would be good
03:00within the household.
03:01Exactly, and this is what you do on the show.
03:04And I love watching y'all when y'all do the Hot Topics.
03:06And so we were talking, so I want your opinion on this.
03:08We were talking the other day, or I was,
03:10about Jason Isaacs, one of the stars from The White Lotus.
03:14And he did a scene where, you know,
03:16he did some, like a full frontal, kinda.
03:19Not full frontal, but he showed a portion of his,
03:22you know, of his.
03:23I didn't see that.
03:24You mean full Mr. Happy?
03:26Yeah, he showed Mr. Happy.
03:28Like he was sitting in a chair, and Mr. Happy was out.
03:31And so he was on Gayle King's show,
03:33and Gayle asked him, was it real?
03:35Like, was it a camera, was it real?
03:37So he got a little upset, and he said it was
03:39a double standard, and nobody does this to women.
03:43Like, how do you feel about when women ask men
03:45about, you know, is it real, or?
03:46I'm still, I'm still on Gayle said, is it fake?
03:49How would it be fake?
03:50How would he, how would he?
03:50Because we didn't know if it was a prosthetic or not.
03:53You know, it could have.
03:54So wait, but if it was a prosthetic,
03:55then what did he do with the real Mr. Happy?
03:58I, but here's the thing, if it ain't happy enough,
04:01you use a prosthetic, so.
04:03So Gayle just wanted to know if it was real, but.
04:05Maybe Mr. Happy needs an antidepressant.
04:08All right, go ahead.
04:10This girl, and this is what I get from this woman
04:14all the time, I just was curious about,
04:17because I felt like, you know, we do this with.
04:18So he actually got mad?
04:19I don't think he got mad, I think he was just like,
04:21you know, why are you asking me this,
04:22and you wouldn't, when people do it to a woman,
04:25it's, you know.
04:26Would you ever pose naked for anything?
04:27I mean, I always say for a man to see me naked,
04:29I have to be in his will.
04:31Girl!
04:31Yes, but I don't, I don't go for exposing myself
04:35in public, or even in my bedroom.
04:37You, let me tell you something, you do everything else.
04:39You couldn't do something, you couldn't do a nude something?
04:42You know, I was considering maybe porn for the blind.
04:46But other than that, no, nothing.
04:50And then, so that leads me to my next question.
04:53Joy Behar, do you miss doing stand-up comedy?
04:56No, do you?
04:57Yes, I do, I always have to be on stage.
05:00I can't not be on stage.
05:02I can't not.
05:02Like, you just did stand-up in this chair.
05:04You told me you don't.
05:05Well, that's different, I'm sitting.
05:06And when you're sitting, it's different.
05:11You know, I always feel like stand-up,
05:13it was always difficult for me, in a way.
05:15Because I would get nauseous, I would throw up,
05:17I'd have the runs, before I had to go on, it was bad.
05:20So, then I'd get laughs, and I would like it,
05:23and then I'd have a glass of wine,
05:24and then they'd say, okay, you have to do it again,
05:26tomorrow, and I'd be like, I don't want to do it again.
05:28Because it's hard to do.
05:30It is hard to do.
05:31You sound like you're the one with the split personality.
05:33I am, well, like mother, like daughter.
05:35Like mother, like daughter.
05:36No, but to me, it's always like, I'm naked on stage,
05:39which I told you already, I don't enjoy that.
05:41And everybody else is wearing clothes.
05:43That's how it feels.
05:44As a stand-up comics, we have to be very vulnerable.
05:46That's what draws people in, to make folks laugh.
05:49So, you don't like being that vulnerable.
05:50Well, if you're vulnerable, too vulnerable,
05:52they get scared that you're scared.
05:54So, you have to show confidence.
05:55That's why it's so hard to do in the beginning,
05:57because you have no confidence.
05:58Right, and you just have to learn it.
06:00Okay, so then I just have to rely on you
06:01to do your stand-up when you're sitting at the table.
06:03That's right, if I'm sitting, it's fine.
06:04I used to do Jay Leno all the time, always sitting,
06:06and he'd say, why don't you do a set?
06:07And I'd say, no, why would I do that?
06:09Put myself in that position.
06:11Because you're funny, that's why.
06:12Yeah, but I can be funny sitting and standing.
06:14What's the difference?
06:16Lying down, really hilarious lying down.
06:21So, this is what I want to say,
06:23because you're not doing stand-up,
06:24you get to really indulge in your other passions,
06:26and people know you're an amazing writer.
06:29So, I want to congratulate you on your off-Broadway
06:33debut of My First Ex-Husband.
06:35Right, right, right.
06:36I, this show's so great.
06:39Can you tell us about this show?
06:41Well, I interviewed a bunch of women about,
06:43I was very interested to hear, why do people get divorced?
06:46Because I'm divorced myself.
06:48Hard to believe, isn't it?
06:50And, because I'm divorced, I was always wondering,
06:52why did I even get divorced?
06:54But then, when I look back, I know why.
06:56Uh-huh, why?
06:57Well, I was like a child when I got married.
06:59I was 22, I was, we were like two
07:01unformed pieces of protoplasm.
07:04You know what I mean?
07:05And then there we were together,
07:06trying to actually act like we're married.
07:08It was ridiculous, really.
07:09It was.
07:10So that, that ended.
07:11And there are other reasons, probably, too.
07:13But, so I interviewed women to see what happened to them.
07:15I was curious.
07:16And so, after I spoke to people for hours,
07:19I put it on tape, and I personally transcribed it,
07:21because I'm a very good typist.
07:23It's one of my skills.
07:25All right, so.
07:25Then I would make it into a very,
07:27a short monologue that made sense.
07:29Yeah.
07:29And add and subtract things.
07:31And I love it because it's these very,
07:33it's these short monologues, and they're really amazing.
07:37And some stories are so touching.
07:39Some are laugh out loud, funny.
07:41They're different stories of women,
07:42and what they went through being married.
07:44Right.
07:45And why it didn't work.
07:46And they're all different.
07:47They're all different.
07:48Right.
07:48And you have different actresses reading them.
07:50So you have, right now, Susan Lucci, Judy Gold,
07:54Tonya Pinkins, and B. Ann Cox.
07:57They are an amazing cast.
07:59So they get on stage, and they read these stories.
08:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:02Yeah?
08:03That's the wrong picture.
08:04What's the wrong picture?
08:05Who's wrong in this?
08:06There's Susan Lucci.
08:07Susan Lucci.
08:09The one with the glasses next to Judy Gold
08:10is not in it anymore.
08:11She got ill.
08:12So B. Ann Cox is in it now.
08:13Oh, B. Ann Cox took her place.
08:14Yeah, and we don't have her picture, though.
08:15And so, and Tonya Pinkins.
08:17Tonya Pinkins is great.
08:18Okay.
08:19Fantastic cast, yes.
08:19And it's like every, so it's just a role.
08:21Every four weeks, we change the cast.
08:23You change the cast.
08:24And I'm gonna go back into it again,
08:26April 11th, 12th, and 13th, just for a short thing.
08:29So you actually gonna actually read some of the stories?
08:32Yeah, well, I was in the first round.
08:33You were in the round out in the Hamptons.
08:34I did it in the Hamptons for you,
08:36and it was like, it was sold out at the theater.
08:38Yeah, we sold out every show.
08:40I wish people would come, come.
08:42No, I'm telling you, it's so funny.
08:44And it was so funny getting to see other actresses do it.
08:47Now, you really should get Gayle King on there to read.
08:50Why, is she, she's divorced?
08:51Yeah, Gayle King is divorced.
08:52She's got like an amazing story.
08:54Oh, you mean interview her, or she was an actress?
08:55She'd be good if you were gonna add stories.
08:57Yeah.
08:58But she would also be good as an actress
08:59to read one of your stories.
09:01Why do you say that?
09:02Because she's just, Gayle King is funny.
09:04She is.
09:05First of all, but I was gonna say,
09:06you better get her, because you know she's going to space.
09:09Okay, she's gonna, Gayle King,
09:12she announced that she's going to space.
09:14Why?
09:15I don't know why she's going.
09:16There's so much mishegossin' craziness right here.
09:19Why do you need to go there?
09:21She's, Gayle, it was like on her bucket list.
09:25She's always wanted to try something.
09:27Is Oprah going too?
09:28No, Oprah's not going.
09:29So she's no dummy, she's not going.
09:31Yeah, Oprah not going.
09:32You know what Oprah said?
09:33Oprah said, you go, Gayle.
09:34You go.
09:35But like, you know, I love it.
09:37So I was just saying, you gotta get Gayle
09:38before she goes to space.
09:40But, you know, thinking of bucket list,
09:42is there anything that you have?
09:44Do you have a bucket list?
09:45Yeah.
09:46It's pretty empty at the moment.
09:48It's really empty at the moment?
09:49I emptied it, the bucket list, right?
09:51So you've done everything?
09:52Pretty much, I mean, I've done everything.
09:55I mean, I'm writing plays now.
09:57I did stand up.
09:58I was a receptionist at Good Morning America.
10:00Oh, you was a receptionist at Good Morning America?
10:02Yeah, yeah.
10:03How long did that last?
10:05Three years.
10:05I was one of the worst receptionists they've ever had.
10:07It's famous.
10:08It's a famous story, how bad I was.
10:09Really?
10:10Yeah.
10:11Okay.
10:12You know, people would call me.
10:12They'd say, where's Joan Lunden?
10:13I'd say, how the hell do I know?
10:14What am I her, I'm not her mother.
10:17When I tell you, and you don't wanna do stand up no more.
10:21You wanna do sit up.
10:22I'll do sit down.
10:23You'll do sit down.
10:23Girl, when I tell you, I love you so much.
10:27I just, I miss you and I adore you.
10:29Are we done already?
10:30Yeah, you gotta go.
10:31You gotta go.
10:32I know you wanna stay, but you gotta go.
10:34You know, once I sit down,
10:38it's hard to get me to get a stand up again.
10:40When you sit down, you ready to go.
10:42That's why I love, I'll go out and see Joy out
10:44and then we'll just spend the whole weekend together.
10:46I know, you'll have to,
10:47why don't you come and do the show again?
10:48I know.
10:49Yes, I will come.
10:50I know, you're busy.
10:50Well, it's hard.
10:51You'd come to see Sherry, right?
10:52Yeah.
10:53But it's hard.
10:54She's so funny.
10:56I got this talk show,
10:57cause I gotta be up early in the morning.
10:58Every minute, you can't, so do it three days.
11:01Do a weekend.
11:02Now you're putting me in a position.
11:03You always do this, Joy.
11:05Listen, I did the same thing to Drew Barrymore.
11:07She said, yeah, yeah, I'll come on.
11:08And then her agent said, she's too busy.
11:11Okay, well I'll tell you this.
11:12Mama, keep my word.
11:13I'm gonna come on and I'm gonna do the show with you
11:15cause I love you.
11:17You heard her.
11:18But you made me say it.
11:20You always make me do this, Joy.
11:22Y'all, I wanna say, Joy, thank you for being here.
11:25Cause I love you.
11:26I love you too.
11:30My first ex-husband,
11:31and when I tell y'all, this show is so doggone good.
11:34Can I say this?
11:35You get upset if I say, like,
11:36it reminds you kind of like the vagina monologue.
11:38Yeah, it's the same format without the vaginas.
11:44I mean, we have them.
11:45We have them.
11:46But they're not discussed.
11:47Yeah, they're not discussed in the storyline.
11:48Yeah, they're prostheses.
11:52Call back.
11:53These stories are so good.
11:55My first ex-husband,
11:57it is playing at the Manhattan Movement and Art Center now,
12:00and it's been extended through May 18th.
12:03So please come and see it.
12:05♪ We're gonna have a good time ♪
12:07♪ We're gonna have a good time ♪
12:10♪ Don't be so legendary ♪
12:12♪ Cherie's got you feeling good ♪