During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing held before the Congressional recess, Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS) questioned experts about military surgery training and readiness.
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00:00And I commend each of you for your excellent testimony.
00:04Let me just get quick answers here from all three of you.
00:09I think what I'm hearing from all three of you
00:11is that this is going to require more than simply
00:15good management of what we have on the books now.
00:18Each of you is recommending changes
00:22in the statute that need to come in this coming NDAA.
00:26Is that right, Dr. Robb?
00:28And Dr. Friedrichs?
00:30Yes, sir.
00:31And Dr. Cannon?
00:31Yes, Mr. Chairman.
00:32Okay, now let's talk about military surgeon readiness
00:36for combat care.
00:38There was a study out in 2021,
00:41it found that the population of military general surgeons
00:45meeting necessary readiness standards
00:48decreased from an already low 17% in 2015
00:53to about 10% in 2019.
00:59Why is that?
01:00We'll let all three of you take a brief chance
01:03at answering this.
01:04Why is this happening?
01:06And what specifically can DOD do to reverse this trend?
01:10And we'll just start with Dr. Robb and go down the table.
01:14I'll take a, we'll try to share different perspectives here.
01:18I think it comes back to the system to be able
01:23to resource the requirements that we need.
01:27And so, for example, if you want to look at,
01:30Dr. Cannon referred to the five to eight,
01:33what we call critical military treatment facilities.
01:37In order for us to provide a higher volume,
01:39high acuity care, they need to be resourced.
01:42And I think that's the challenge
01:43that we all face right now,
01:45is what's that strategic reserve
01:47with our military treatment facilities?
01:48And then how you augment that with the VA
01:51and the Department of Defense partnerships,
01:54and then how do you augment that with the military?
01:56Is that what he called the centers of excellence?
01:59So I would call them, that's one way to call them,
02:03but what I, coming from the airlifter world,
02:08in fact, General Friedrichs and I will say,
02:10follow the casualty flow.
02:13And the casualty flow comes in from Indo-Pecan
02:16to primarily will become in the two
02:18or three military treatment facilities.
02:20From South Com there will be coming
02:22into the National Capital Region.
02:24And then from Europe, CENTCOM and AFRICOM,
02:27they will be coming into primarily
02:29National Capital Region and with a pop-off at Portsmouth.
02:31Okay, Dr. Friedrichs, is this 10% number a concern?
02:38And why do we have a 10% of military surgeon readiness?
02:47Mr. Chairman, it absolutely is a concern.
02:49When I did my training in the military,
02:51I trained at the old Wolford Hall
02:53that was a level one trauma center.
02:54I took care of trauma patients
02:56because it was a 36 on 12 off schedule every other night.
03:00Or I took care of vascular surgery patients,
03:02or I took care of cardiothoracic patients.
03:05We've de-scoped our facilities to the point
03:07that they take care of low acuity
03:09community hospital patients, not trauma patients.
03:12So I would reiterate the point
03:13that you've heard all three of us make.
03:15We need our key hospitals to be level one trauma centers
03:19in partnership with the American College of Surgeons
03:21and the communities in which they're located.
03:23But to do that, we must address the elephant in the room,
03:26and that's resourcing.
03:27The medical inflation rate on average since 1938
03:31is 5.1% per year.
03:33And the military has seen a net 12% reduction in funding.
03:37There is no way to fix these problems
03:40if the military health system is viewed as a bill payer
03:43and not something worth investing in.
03:45The second point that I would make
03:46is we've got to reiterate the intent
03:49that you and the ranking member mentioned.
03:52I spent four years as the joint staff surgeon.
03:55Almost every meeting in which I participated in that role
03:58focused on roles and responsibilities and patches,
04:02not on patients.
04:03Please, again, I implore you,
04:06kill this narrative that somehow there's a belief
04:09that we can unwind things and go back to the good old days.
04:13We need to go forward towards a more integrated system
04:16that focuses on patient care and, as you said,
04:19on readiness, not continuing to focus
04:21on bureaucratic buffoonery.
04:23Dr. Cannon.
04:26Mr. Chairman, it's shocking, astonishing, and awful,
04:30and it has to be reversed.
04:32That 10% number results from inadequate,
04:36actually, grossly inadequate patient numbers, volume.
04:40They're not doing the cases,
04:42they're not doing the procedures,
04:43they're not doing what they were trained to do.
04:45And that's because they don't have the patients
04:47in the facilities.
04:48They're, in many cases,
04:50not designated or verified trauma centers,
04:54so they're scrounging around trying to get cases,
04:56and it's been, frankly, an uphill climb.
04:59So we've got to provide them the patients,
05:01the cases, the experience to write that 10% number.
05:06Thank you very much, gentlemen.