📢 FACUNDO MANES: "ME PEGARON DOS CORTITOS"
👉 El diputado Facundo Manes explica por qué interrumpió el discurso del presidente Javier Milei al inaugurar el nuevo período de sesiones en el Congreso.
"LOS QUE NO SE SOMETEN, NO PUEDEN OPINAR"
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👉 El diputado Facundo Manes explica por qué interrumpió el discurso del presidente Javier Milei al inaugurar el nuevo período de sesiones en el Congreso.
"LOS QUE NO SE SOMETEN, NO PUEDEN OPINAR"
👉 Seguí en #BuenDíaA24
📺 a24.com/vivo
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00:00How are you after the whole episode on Saturday?
00:03The truth is that, recovering from a surprise, I'm happy because my children are fine.
00:08My daughter was with Ronel Suárez and everyone started calling her.
00:12Let's see, what happened here is that the most powerful man in Argentina threatened me.
00:16Now I'm going to tell you the details.
00:18And everyone knows that he is the most powerful man who manages the intelligence services,
00:21that in Argentina the intelligence services were always used to chase the Argentines, never to predict how to develop us.
00:26Not to prevent AMIA, not to prevent...
00:28To pay journalists, to chase opponents, to invent judicial causes.
00:32Those intelligence services are not managed by Caputo.
00:35It is managed by the FIB that chases you. I paid all the taxes.
00:38The truth is that I am someone who works in medical and scientific institutions,
00:41but they can invent anything.
00:43It is managed by the trolls, with state money.
00:46That is, the people who came to fight the caste use the money from politics or the state to threaten opponents.
00:55The whole country knows that.
00:58He seems more powerful than Mila and Caputo.
01:00And that person threatened me, it was evident.
01:02There were recordings, now I'm going to tell you.
01:04But my children were worried.
01:06So I'm fine because they're fine too.
01:08My wife is fine, my family, my mother-in-law who is in Salton is fine.
01:12When one has the orderly affections...
01:15I'm here to fight for a country, so don't threaten me with this, but this also impacts.
01:20I am a person, whether public or deputized, I parked the car, I ride a bicycle, I work as a doctor, I donate my salary.
01:29Nobody knows this, I don't do raffles.
01:31But from the first day I donated my salary.
01:33A part to the hospital of some mothers who take care of the hospital where I was born, in Iriarte.
01:40They take care of newborns.
01:43Another part to a place in Salton where I work with disabled children.
01:47And another part, I see inflation, I give it to people who need medication.
01:52Medication increases a lot and they say there is no inflation.
01:56I donate my salary, I live from medicine, I live as an entrepreneur, I have medical and scientific institutes.
02:01Well, they must be all scared, the doctors who work with me, the patients who go to Gineco today.
02:05Well, the government can threaten you.
02:07I want society to know that if this happens to a national deputy, it can happen to an honest journalist in the country.
02:14Imagine how an honest journalist in the country investigates the police.
02:17How an honest policeman wants to disarm a corrupt policeman.
02:21How can a judge investigate if a national deputy, on the day of the legislative assembly,
02:26with the cameras, is threatened and physically beaten.
02:31How am I not going to be worried?
02:33Because we are facing a process that can end in an authoritarian drift.
02:36You ratify that these two things happened.
02:38He threatened you and hit you.
02:40Do you want me to tell you how it was?
02:42I would like.
02:43We are seeing some of the images when he comes down from the stage and twists his way,
02:49because it is not that he leaves.
02:51Those of us who know the Congress know that you turn around and go to the esplanade.
02:55He twists and approaches you.
02:57What happens there?
02:58It starts before.
02:59But I don't want to victimize myself here.
03:01I want to tell what happened.
03:02That's why I come.
03:03And then I'm going to talk about my fear.
03:06That by ordering the economy, which must be done, and that we should all do,
03:12by lowering inflation, which I hope is sustainable,
03:16and I hope it is true, because with drugs it is not true,
03:19and with other prices it is not true either,
03:21but we cannot allow, like in the 90s, corruption,
03:25the stumble of institutions,
03:27and we cannot allow submission.
03:32Here the opponent who does not submit is attacked.
03:35I'm not a Kirchnerist, but I'm worried about the people of radicalism or pro,
03:41who seem that if they don't submit, they can't give an opinion.
03:48So there is no opposition.
03:50Basically, that's the first scene.
03:53Peronism was not there, Kirchnerism was not there,
03:56and there were the deputies of Libertad Avanza,
03:59the deputies of pro and radicalism...
04:02Not Peluca.
04:03Pro, let's say, radicalism pro,
04:07and there was the block of Encuentro Federal,
04:11that many have a good relationship,
04:13in fact, at the beginning of the government they wanted to be in the government.
04:16So, really, the opponents, we don't negotiate anything,
04:20because here what happens is that many times the votes are changed
04:23for a job position, or for a future election and a list,
04:27things that I don't come from the caste,
04:29I've been in this world for three years,
04:31and I deal with convictions, I deal with ideals, and with dignity.
04:37What happened?
04:38I want the environment to be hostile,
04:41because the only thing I felt that we were real opponents to my law,
04:45we were 4 or 5 of the block of Democracy Forever.
04:48Do you share with me that it was not good,
04:50that not all of them were good,
04:52the 157 deputies and the 72 senators.
04:54Okay.
04:55I don't understand.
04:56But what I want to transmit is that I really felt opposed to my law,
04:59without being Peronist or Kirchnerist.
05:01Okay.
05:02Because then I saw that the rest was more collaborationist,
05:06that I come to ask you to be careful with being a collaborationist
05:09of a system that only asks you to submit,
05:12because this can lead to an authoritarian process.
05:14So, the stands full, like the time of Kirchnerism,
05:17full of officials, of young libertarians, of trollers,
05:22like the time of Kirchnerism,
05:25full of militants, it looked like a football stadium.
05:28And the president, in the chapter of justice,
05:31began to talk about justice,
05:34and there I asked him,
05:36also other deputies asked him,
05:38Pablo Giuliano and others,
05:40what would happen if it was going to be a law for crypto-scams?
05:44And what happened?
05:45And there I showed him the constitution,
05:47and that's where my ideals and my conviction come from.
05:50What happened was that he appointed two judges of the court by decree.
05:53One was there.
05:54One day before...
05:55That was a loud voice.
05:56Yes, but the official transmission was fascist,
05:59that is, they didn't even focus on the vice-president,
06:01they didn't even focus on Martin Menem.
06:03Only the president.
06:04And they didn't focus...
06:05He wasn't standing so that...
06:06Half of the Congress was empty.
06:08In fact, the journalists couldn't enter their usual workplaces.
06:11I know.
06:12And here we said it.
06:13Let's see.
06:14One of the last Nobel Prize in economics
06:16was awarded in economics,
06:18by the president,
06:19for saying that what makes countries fail
06:22are the institutions.
06:23I mean, he's talking about economics when I talk about institutions.
06:26If you overwhelm the Congress,
06:30you don't allow journalists to enter,
06:32you give the deputies pre-sales
06:34so that they vote for you as in the worst practices of the caste,
06:37if they change their mind, as we saw many times,
06:39inexplicably.
06:40If you have a journalism that looks like...
06:42Many journalists look like ministers from the government.
06:44If you have trolls,
06:46if you abase justice,
06:49which is an addicted court,
06:50we're in trouble.
06:51So, I ask the president that.
06:54The president talks to me,
06:56tells me that he doesn't know how to read.
06:57Well, it doesn't matter what he tells me.
06:59But I feel...
07:00They tell me from behind.
07:01I feel that I was...
07:02On the stage, I felt that Caputo was shouting at me.
07:05Santiago Caputo.
07:06Give me a second.
07:07There I see one thing.
07:08You may be shocked
07:10that you shout at the president of the bank
07:12without having the word.
07:14Which has happened a hundred...
07:16I covered the congress many times.
07:18It has happened a hundred and fifty thousand times.
07:20Wait, wait.
07:21I'm going to tell you something.
07:22I'm not a politician.
07:23I mean, I'm a politician,
07:24but I don't come from politics.
07:25A year ago, I came here.
07:26What I saw was that every time I became president...
07:28In fact, do you remember when Alberto Fernández
07:30appointed Macri and the whole process went?
07:33And I was left alone,
07:34not because I supported Alberto Fernández,
07:35because I never supported Alberto Fernández,
07:36but because the president was the one who spoke.
07:38But everyone told him about everything.
07:40Everything they told me today,
07:41they told him...
07:42I understood this three years ago in the congress,
07:44that when the president speaks...
07:45The president answers you.
07:46Yes.
07:47Noblesse obliges.
07:48And he answers me quite well.
07:49Noblesse obliges.
07:50I think the episode would have ended there
07:52if this had not happened,
07:53what you are going to tell now.
07:55Well, and the president answers me,
07:56in his own way.
07:57Correctly.
07:58He doesn't attack me personally.
07:59Correctly.
08:00He tells you his opinion.
08:01The heat, the heat,
08:02the episode would have ended.
08:03Totally agree.
08:06But they tell me,
08:07and I feel,
08:08shouts,
08:09and it was Santiago Caputo,
08:10I would tell you,
08:11out of breath.
08:12Out of breath.
08:13From the stage.
08:14From the stage,
08:15and he did this to me,
08:16as if I was looking at him.
08:17Let's see,
08:18if the man who manages the CIDE,
08:19the FIP,
08:20the trolls,
08:21and the IPF guidelines,
08:22and the airlines for...
08:23I want to see that guideline,
08:24where is it?
08:25They say there is no more guideline.
08:27He does this to me,
08:29and I say,
08:30I started looking at him,
08:31because really,
08:32I would tell you,
08:33I was surprised.
08:34And you can see that I was looking at him,
08:35I didn't look down,
08:36and we looked at each other,
08:37I don't know,
08:38like a minute and a half or two.
08:39We are watching you.
08:40And,
08:41but that,
08:42everything seemed very strange to me,
08:43and he did this to me,
08:44and he talked to me,
08:45I didn't listen to him,
08:46I say,
08:47we'll talk later,
08:48I say,
08:49because I don't listen to you,
08:50you are going to...
08:51what I do understand,
08:52he says,
08:53you are going to listen to me,
08:54you are going to listen to me.
08:55Well,
08:56nothing,
08:57I said,
08:58well,
08:59how strange all this,
09:00very tense,
09:01well,
09:02it happened,
09:03all this would have happened.
09:04I grabbed my backpack,
09:05I had taken the constitution,
09:06I had taken a cell phone
09:07to record,
09:08and,
09:09it was said that,
09:10I mean,
09:11look at the tension,
09:12look at the madness we had reached,
09:13there were,
09:14the journalists could not enter,
09:15there was a climate that,
09:16if we did not film the deputies,
09:17in the networks they asked us...
09:18Yes,
09:19yes,
09:20but they had checked,
09:21for example,
09:22they invited the deputies...
09:23So,
09:24I took the tripod,
09:25the backpack with the tripod,
09:26with the constitution,
09:27well,
09:28I grabbed the backpack,
09:29I go out,
09:30alone,
09:31because,
09:32with the deputy Marcela Colli de la Pampa,
09:33because Pablo Giuliano,
09:34Dani Atabella and Melina George
09:35stayed behind,
09:36who were also from my group,
09:37I go out of Pasos Perdidos,
09:38I grab a corridor to go,
09:39I grab the car,
09:40it was full of people,
09:41there was a journalist from Clarin
09:42next to me,
09:43and I see a,
09:44the image I saw,
09:45it was from the stairs,
09:46like a duckling,
09:47that went down,
09:48you see,
09:49when the bars go down,
09:50brava,
09:51that there is a photo,
09:52La Política Online put a photo...
09:53We are going to see it,
09:54now we are going to see it right away,
09:55because we have passed it.
09:56I saw a band of,
09:57a...
09:58That,
09:59that you are seeing there.
10:00Well,
10:01no,
10:02but I saw a photo,
10:03there is a photo of La Política Online,
10:04it was full,
10:05the stairs going down,
10:06and I saw a photo of Caputo,
10:07also full,
10:08taken out,
10:09and,
10:10and he speaks to me,
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