🔴JAVIER MILEI VIAJÓ A BAHÍA BLANCA JUNTO A KARINA Y GUILLERMO FRANCOS
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00:00In the first hours, Presidente Milley was in contact almost permanently with Patricia Burleitz and Petra in the field,
00:05with Sandra Petovey, the Minister of Human Capital.
00:08And until yesterday, until yesterday, there was no formal decision, until yesterday afternoon,
00:13about whether or not he had to travel.
00:15Finally, it was decided last night that he should travel, he traveled at dawn.
00:19His classic communication team, networks, all that infrastructure was not there,
00:24which is very important for the government.
00:26Yes, it was today. In fact, the authorities of the province of Buenos Aires had not found out
00:30if the lieutenant Susbieles, who is right next to him, Presidente Milley,
00:34traveled with his sister Karina Milley.
00:37There he also met with Petra.
00:39Burleitz had already returned to the city precisely by the march,
00:43which is just in a little while in the center, linked to the retirees, the Barra Bras and the CGT.
00:48But yes, there he was touring several areas, of course, flooded.
00:53What was surprising? Was it a matter of security?
00:57Did you prefer to go without announcing to avoid any inconvenience?
01:01Let's see, the idea of scratches was always present,
01:04especially when on Monday Burleitz and Petri travel
01:07and a group of people began to insult them in a bad way and they had to take them out.
01:11That was the first fact. The second ...
01:13They were even followed by the truck, right?
01:15Yes, yes, yes, with strong insults.
01:17Yes, but there he was seen by the two ministers who were very guarded too, right?
01:20Yes, they were alone.
01:22They were on the ground alone.
01:24Yes, they had gone to an evacuation center too, they had been in areas where there were very angry people.
01:29That I would tell you is the first point.
01:31The second point, there was a lot of internal debate in the Casa Rosada
01:34if the presence of the president was going to be read as a matter of political use,
01:39even more so when José Luis Esper was in the first incursion that Burleitz and Petri made.
01:44And that went very badly because he is a national deputy.
01:46He has a direct connection with Bahía Blanca.
01:48He has a management role.
01:49No.
01:50Yes, out there of representativeness, but as it was not a question of representativeness, but of management.
01:55And we know that he has aspirations in the province of Buenos Aires.
01:58So, of course, that made noise.
02:00Of course, what generated the presence of Esper, who counts very well,
02:04was where in the presidency they were doubting whether it was convenient or not for the president to go.
02:08They opted for this, it was a relatively short visit,
02:12but notice that there are only images taken by the municipality.
02:16When you enter Milei, there are no images of the tour, for example, that he had made,
02:21nor of him on the plane.
02:23According to what we understand, he went to the monitoring center with Susbieles himself
02:27and went to the drinking plant, which is a strategic and key place, the ASPA plant,
02:33which is very important so that, of course, it can be put into operation again.
02:36Yes, it had been totally under water.
02:39At one point they had evaluated that he would go to an evacuation center.
02:42The truth is that luckily there were already less than 500 evacuated people.
02:45In the end it was decided not to, given the experience of Bullrich and Petri,
02:48but it was surprising in this sense that the government had two days
02:53discussing whether it was convenient for him to go or not,
02:55whether there could be a reading of political exploitation,
02:58and that is why it was this way.
02:59Virtually no one had found out.
03:01The applicant found out an hour and a half earlier,
03:03and the governor knew it when he was already on the ground.
03:06It seems to me that you were very good at one of the keys,
03:09which is not to sound political exploitation.
03:11There is a dilemma, because if he does not go, he is not in the place of the facts,
03:14if he is recriminated, if he goes, he is doing political exploitation.
03:17It's like a cage.
03:19You have to do what you have to do.
03:21That president of the nation has to put his body, period,
03:23and then let the reading remain for the one who does it.
03:26But I also think of the fear of scratch.
03:28You were talking about Petri and Bullrich, right?
03:31I know there was a little scream out there,
03:33but I imagine it is another of the variables that is analyzed.
03:36That was key, Marina, because in the early hours,
03:39when the political exploitation began to be evaluated,
03:42shortly after, a few hours later, Petri and Bullrich were scratched,
03:46who were in contact with the president all the time,
03:48and they tell him how the sequence had been.
03:50And there in the government they said, well,
03:52for now, at least, let him not go,
03:54let's hope he starts, at least, to withdraw a little water,
03:56that all the tasks he is doing progress,
03:58prayer, province and municipality,
04:00and only then re-evaluate, to see if it was convenient or not,
04:03for the president to go.
04:04But I would also tell you, the first photo with Spert was a trigger,
04:08because really the negative impact that had on the figure of José Luis Spert
04:12was read quickly in the Casa Rosada,
04:14and there it was re-evaluated.
04:15That said, sorry Facu,
04:17the voices have already begun, as Marina says,
04:19if he goes, because he goes, and if he does not go, because he does not go.
04:21There are people who say that he arrived late.
04:22Now that's the new excuse, right?
04:24Let's see that there are the images,
04:26they have to do with a bridge, this is exactly,
04:29that the army itself is mounting in a place
04:32to be able to connect the two territories.
04:35The famous campaign bridges.
04:37Exactly, it's a campaign bridge.
04:39Something else, Cece.
04:40Well, to say, in a little while we will surely have it.
04:43Pay attention to what is happening in parallel,
04:45on the street, with this march that forced Patricia Woolrich to return.