The Real Housewives of Potomac S09 E18
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00:00The verdict was read.
00:23What was your initial reaction?
00:26Well, my heart dropped.
00:31Karen Huber of Real Housewives of Potomac
00:34was found guilty.
00:35This is very frightening.
00:37But I accept full responsibility for everything
00:40that went on with my car accident.
00:43I feel like I had a couple of beers or something.
00:45Yes, so I know what you will not do is tell me what I can't do.
00:48Karen, don't, please, don't.
00:52We have about a month to go until you are sentenced.
00:56How are you coping at this time?
01:26I should have probably taken a cab.
01:35You probably should have taken a cab, yes.
01:39Do you think that you may have an issue with alcohol?
01:42No, I'm not an alcoholic.
01:45Let's be clear.
01:46Let me help you up.
01:47No, I did not.
01:50Oh, God, I'm lit.
01:52Yes, you are lit.
01:54I know a lot of young children look up to me,
01:56call me Auntie Karen, Granda.
02:00Do as I say, not as I do.
02:03I'm so excited.
02:27Miss Karen, I don't know.
02:45Did you see her name on the door?
02:46So she doesn't have a dressing room?
02:47I don't think so.
02:49Oh my gosh.
02:50Girl, she is not coming.
02:51Oh, my God.
02:52Oh, my God.
02:53Oh, my God.
02:54Oh, my God.
02:55Oh, my God.
02:56Oh, my God.
02:57Oh, my God.
02:58Hey.
02:59Hey.
03:00What's going on with Karen?
03:01Is she not coming?
03:02I don't know.
03:03Last time I actually talked to her was New Year's Eve.
03:04Call her.
03:05See if she's coming.
03:06Oh, my gosh.
03:07Girl, she is not coming.
03:08Your call has been forwarded to voicemail.
03:09The person you're trying to reach is not available.
03:10I hope she is here.
03:11Well, she has to be.
03:12I mean, you need some answers.
03:13Yeah, but I think because we're in the middle of a pandemic,
03:14we don't have a lot of time.
03:15We don't have a lot of time.
03:16We don't have a lot of time.
03:17We don't have a lot of time.
03:18We don't have a lot of time.
03:19We don't have a lot of time.
03:20We don't have a lot of time.
03:22I hope she is here.
03:24Well, she has to be.
03:25I mean, you need some answers.
03:26Yeah, but I think because we went throughout the season
03:28with her sort of neglecting or denying so much,
03:32and then that footage comes out, it's like, really?
03:35You lied to all of our faces for three months.
03:39I just can't believe the footage.
03:40I feel some type of way because I feel like this past year,
03:45I really rode for her.
03:46And so if nothing else, at least for the people
03:49who soldiered for you and supported you.
03:52Answer the phone.
03:53Answer the phone.
03:54Because now this is like a slap in the face.
03:57Wow.
04:03Hi.
04:10Boop, boop, boop.
04:11Just me and Andy once again.
04:13Wow, you look beautiful.
04:15Hi.
04:17How you doing?
04:18I'm good.
04:19How are you feeling about today?
04:20I feel good.
04:21Yeah?
04:22I mean, ish.
04:23OK.
04:24You know, the lack of Karen.
04:25Yes.
04:26Yes.
04:27OK.
04:28Love on you, sir.
04:29Hi, Ashley.
04:30Hi.
04:31Wow.
04:32Hi, Boopie.
04:33You look beautiful.
04:34Yeah, I love.
04:351, 2, 3.
04:361, 2, 3.
04:37Oh, s***.
04:38What?
04:393.
04:40Hi, guys.
04:41Hey.
04:42I'm going to take a step up.
04:43Yep.
04:44Hi, Andy.
04:45How are you?
04:46Hey.
04:47Hey, Wendy.
04:48Hi.
04:49Y'all are twinning.
04:50Wendy, are you twins?
04:51Y'all are twinning.
04:52Hi.
04:53Hi.
04:54OK.
04:55Oh, oh, oh.
04:56Oh, my gosh.
04:57That's about right.
04:58OK.
04:59All right.
05:00Hi.
05:01I love your hair.
05:02Oh, my gosh.
05:03Look at Giselle's nails.
05:04Yeah.
05:05You can never talk about me again in my nails.
05:07Like, what is this?
05:08What are we doing in 2025?
05:09What the hell is this?
05:10I mean, it's a new year, Wendy.
05:11It is a new year.
05:12It's a new year.
05:13Titties out.
05:14Gee.
05:15Who are we missing?
05:16Karen.
05:17Oh.
05:18Just quiet in the house, please.
05:19We are rolling and recording.
05:20We're bumping in.
05:21Breathe.
05:22Hey, everybody.
05:23Welcome to The Real Housewives of Potomac season nine reunion.
05:30I'm Andy Cohen in Panama with the beautiful Real Housewives of Potomac.
05:37Well, it is safe to say that a lot has changed since you all were in production, for many of you.
05:44And we're going to get into all of that.
05:46But obviously, there is an elephant in the room that we need to address first.
05:50And it's about who isn't in the room.
05:53Karen, the grand dame, is not with us tonight.
06:01Has anyone spoken to Karen?
06:03Not since Christmas.
06:04No.
06:05Not since Christmas.
06:06Are you aware why she's not here today?
06:08Not really.
06:09No.
06:10No.
06:11Detail.
06:12Well, three weeks ago, as you know, Karen was found guilty on seven out of eight charges
06:18related to the single-car DUI crash that happened in March of 2024.
06:25Karen is not here today because she has checked herself into a private recovery center.
06:31Oh, good.
06:32What do you all think about this?
06:34That's great.
06:35That's great.
06:36Perfect.
06:37What's your reaction to that?
06:38I think that's fantastic.
06:39As much as we feel she lives in a land of delusion, and sometimes we think that's funny and cute.
06:46Yeah.
06:47In this particular case, it's not.
06:49I wish she would have done it before her case, because that would have probably helped her.
06:53Yes.
06:54I agree.
06:55But I'm happy she's here now.
06:56But I do find it interesting that she's doing it before her sentencing.
07:00And I'm wondering, is she doing it because she feels like she needs help,
07:04or is she doing it because she feels like it will lighten the blow of the sentence?
07:08Let's give her grace.
07:09We're all giving her grace.
07:10We're all giving her grace.
07:11I think it's okay to ask questions.
07:13No, we're all giving her grace.
07:14I'm just happy that she's in recovery and taking care of herself.
07:17Yeah, I get that.
07:18Let's just acknowledge that.
07:19I get that.
07:20But I feel like sometimes what you're trying to say is by us questioning her as her friends,
07:24you're trying to lessen what we're saying, and that's not fair.
07:27This doesn't have to be cookie-cutter all the time.
07:30Part of friendship is also being honest.
07:33We should be supportive and positive.
07:35Do I also feel that she's going to rehab right now because she's trying to lessen her sentence?
07:39Absolutely.
07:40And anybody would.
07:41Right.
07:42I was going to say.
07:43And I was going to say, I can't knock the hustle.
07:45I would too.
07:46I would too.
07:47I had a feeling that the grand dame would not be present today.
07:50Oh, my God.
07:51So I made sure that she's here in white, okay?
07:55Okay.
07:56She's right here.
07:57Okay.
07:58You know.
07:59How would the grand dame feel about second position?
08:01I was about to say, you might bump her off.
08:03Do you want to put her here?
08:04Let's put her here.
08:05No, no.
08:06It's my picture.
08:07It's my picture.
08:08It's my picture.
08:09Okay.
08:10All right.
08:11All right.
08:12Well, you know, she's not only here in photographic sense.
08:15She sent a message.
08:17Now, I have not seen this.
08:19Let's take a look.
08:21Oh, wow.
08:22Okay.
08:23Okay, ladies.
08:25As you notice, I'm not there.
08:28I am going away to a treatment center to address taking antidepressants and drinking.
08:34I want to get to the bottom of it.
08:36But I would be remiss if I didn't take this time to thank those who truly touched my heart during this whole process.
08:47And the first person I want to thank in the girl group is Giselle.
08:53And I think what's really helped me, Giselle, is what the note you put in my flowers.
08:58One step at a time.
09:00Oh, she's going to make me cry.
09:02You make me very proud of our friendship outside of this show.
09:05You're the real deal.
09:07I want to thank my girl, Kay.
09:09Kay, you came through, and you always said that Karen's going to handle this.
09:15I'm handling it, Kay.
09:17Jazzy, you sent me special notes that really touched my heart.
09:22And I know that Candace is not with us anymore on this show, but Candace reached out to me and has been a soldier in support and love.
09:30But wait a minute.
09:32There's a special person on my list.
09:35Andy Cohen.
09:37Your notes meant the world to me.
09:39They were always on time.
09:41You and Giselle can fight over who calls me to ground on first.
09:44But I plan to be coming back as Karen Huger only because Karen is enough.
09:50And ladies, I'm sure you're going to do me proud and look fabulous at the reunion, but nobody sit in my seat, okay?
09:59Love you.
10:01Wow.
10:02Wow.
10:04Oh, my gosh.
10:06That made you cry.
10:08Yeah.
10:10Okay, we're going to move on.
10:12You know I'm not a good crier.
10:13Well, no, we're not going to move on.
10:15Well, hold on, hold on.
10:16Let me get it together.
10:17Hold on.
10:18I don't see you emotional.
10:19I know.
10:20I just feel like, you know, that is my friend.
10:22I have heard too many things to count of Karen doing kind of reckless things.
10:28My prayer has always been, like, you know, she needs to get some help.
10:33And not, like, in a shady way, and not to tear her down as a person.
10:37She's a beautiful person.
10:38So I just feel like this makes me feel like, okay, she really realizes, like, this is it.
10:44So, okay, I'm done.
10:46Wendy, you seemed unmoved by that video.
10:50Did I?
10:51Yeah.
10:52I think it's interesting that she didn't thank Wendy.
10:54They're so close.
10:55Is that why you, is that?
10:56Did you reach out?
10:57I think it would be selfish for me to frame it in that way.
11:00This isn't about me.
11:01This is about her.
11:02Okay.
11:03I have reached out to her.
11:04I have supported her throughout the season.
11:07It seems like you do feel a little something about...
11:11I feel something, and I'm not trying to conflate the two,
11:13because I also feel something about what she told Stacy about me,
11:18that I saw play out through the season.
11:20Yes, okay.
11:21So I feel like having seen that coupled with this, it all adds up.
11:25Okay.
11:26That's not my friend.
11:28Oh, wow.
11:29Wow.
11:37Wendy, you seemed unmoved by that.
11:45I feel something, and I'm not trying to conflate the two,
11:48because I also feel something about what she told Stacy about me,
11:53that I saw play out through the season.
11:55Yes, okay.
11:56So I feel like having seen that coupled with this, it all adds up.
12:00Okay.
12:01That's not my friend.
12:02Oh, wow.
12:03But you knew that, Wendy.
12:04You've been knowing that.
12:05But I don't know why, because you've been supporting her.
12:07Exactly.
12:08Like, you've been riding for her.
12:09That's not my friend.
12:10You've been checking me for her.
12:11I have checked everybody for her.
12:14Right.
12:15Karen used to call us drunk all the time.
12:16All right, Karen is not in the car to defend herself.
12:20My primary focus is Karen.
12:22Love to share this moment with my group of girlfriends.
12:25My group.
12:26I would say Karen.
12:27I mean, you took her to the White House.
12:29Yes.
12:30Oh, my God.
12:31Thank you so much for coming.
12:32Absolutely.
12:33Wendy, why have you never wanted to acknowledge
12:35that she had issues with you?
12:37It's not that I never wanted to acknowledge it.
12:39It's I take people for what they show me.
12:42Okay.
12:43And she has not shown me that.
12:45I told you, Wendy.
12:46I've said it here at this couch.
12:47I didn't touch your ass.
12:48I said it, Wendy, in Monique's lake house.
12:50Karen has had some things to say about Wendy.
12:53Really?
12:54I'd like to get to know more about her.
12:56Do you think she'll get past I'm three babies
12:58and a freelance correspondent for CNN?
13:00Karen from day one was trying to get you kicked off this show.
13:03I also want to say that last year,
13:06when my mother was being dragged through the mud,
13:08Karen was one of the only people who stuck up for my mother.
13:12Okay.
13:13That's fair.
13:14One thing that I thought was really interesting
13:16about that video was what she said at the end
13:19when she said, I'm going to come back as Karen
13:22and not the grand dame.
13:23Yes.
13:24That is actually, to me,
13:25one of the two headlines of that video
13:27because she is taking the facade away
13:31People ask me all the time about Karen
13:33and I say she is amazing off camera.
13:36Like when the grand dame thing is gone,
13:38Karen is amazing.
13:401,000%.
13:41I would like to point out for the record,
13:43because my eyes almost fell out of my face
13:46when my name came up in that footage.
13:49Just would like to point out,
13:51I did not coin the term grand dame.
13:54The lady to my left did.
13:56That was me.
13:57Who and what Karen is to this world
14:00is very grand-ish.
14:03So yes, I bestowed upon her the title of grand dame.
14:07Andy said get me out of this.
14:09Yeah.
14:10The body cam footage from the night of the accident
14:13found its way online.
14:15It's really tough to watch.
14:17I think you would all agree.
14:18There were thousands of comments.
14:20Rayvante on Twitter,
14:21love Karen since season one,
14:23ride for her heart,
14:24very disappointed in her behavior.
14:26And after watching these videos,
14:28zero accountability,
14:30completely victimized herself.
14:32She could have killed someone.
14:33I hope she gets the help she needs.
14:35Alan from L.A.
14:36lost his best friend to a drunk driver
14:39and has no sympathy for drunk drivers
14:42and the reckless decisions they make.
14:44Hope she goes to jail for this.
14:46So she understands the real consequences of her actions.
14:50A lot of anger, concern, and feelings of betrayal
14:54from the viewers.
14:55Raise your hand if those feelings resonate with you.
14:59To a degree.
15:00Yeah, of course.
15:01Yeah.
15:02Well, I do.
15:03I've been trying to tell everybody that she needed help.
15:05What did you know?
15:06Because I've seen her.
15:07We've gone out.
15:08We went drinking.
15:09She's gotten behind our car.
15:10I brought it up in Lake Norman.
15:11She wasn't taking any accountability.
15:13Maybe she needed to see herself in that light
15:16in order to identify that she needed help.
15:20Well, there's much more to discuss on the Karen front
15:23and questions that need answers.
15:24I promise we'll get into all of that a little bit later.
15:28But first, Dr. Wendy and her brand-new decade
15:31embarked on a new career path
15:33and got herself a new bestie by the name of Giselle.
15:38But in the end,
15:39all the tension between Wendy and Karen
15:41slithered its way back into focus.
15:44Watch.
15:45Miss, Miss Bestie.
15:47It's my birthday!
15:51Yes, Wendy girl!
15:53What the hell is going on?
15:56Our relationship, oh God, has been in a bucket.
15:59I would like for us to get to a better place.
16:01Me too.
16:02When you're angry, it's like
16:03I'm coming at you very condescending.
16:05I receive that.
16:06You sometimes try to alienate people.
16:10If I do have an issue with you moving forward,
16:12I will tell you what it is.
16:14I recently resigned from my position at my university.
16:21Are you crazy?
16:23Just got off the phone.
16:24Wait, what are you talking about?
16:25With the White House!
16:26And you're gonna film an episode of The Dr. Wendy Show.
16:30I would love to share this moment
16:32with my group of girlfriends.
16:33Like who?
16:34I would say Karen.
16:36Thank you so much for coming!
16:38Absolutely!
16:39Karen made it very clear,
16:41Wendy was self-absorbed,
16:43she wasn't a girl's girl,
16:44and she would never be my friend.
16:46I have never said that to you.
16:48I have rode for you.
16:49I know that.
16:50So I'm not saying that I 100% believe you,
16:53but something in the milk ain't clean.
16:58All right.
16:59We saw a new side of you this year.
17:01Lighter, funnier.
17:03What do you attribute that to?
17:04I don't know.
17:05I think 40's so monumental,
17:07like I want to start afresh anew,
17:08and I think I also left my position.
17:10Yeah.
17:11That was like a weight lifted off of me.
17:12I was tired of having to conform
17:14to antiquated ideas of what professors should be.
17:17Yes.
17:18But also,
17:19I would have to assume
17:20that it was a relief to you,
17:22and to you too,
17:23that the two of you
17:25were able to work through your animosity.
17:28It was an added bonus, absolutely.
17:30We listened to each other,
17:32which I think we've never done.
17:34We went through the laundry list.
17:36I remember there was a time
17:37that we were talking,
17:38and Giselle said,
17:39and there's more,
17:40and I said yes.
17:41It was a long conversation.
17:42It was like two hours.
17:43I think it's great
17:44that you two were open enough
17:45to do that work with each other.
17:47Yeah.
17:48And Wendy's such a,
17:49you know,
17:50she's a smart woman,
17:51as we all know,
17:52and she can express herself
17:53clearly, majorly,
17:54articulate,
17:55articulately,
17:56if that's even a word.
17:57No.
17:58And it's not.
17:59No.
18:00Oh, thank you.
18:01She's funny.
18:02That's all I'm going to give her today.
18:04Don't ask for nothing else.
18:06How is business going with Happy Eddie?
18:08Oh, it's booming.
18:09Really?
18:10Oh, my God.
18:11The cannabis industry
18:12is like,
18:13he's doing so well.
18:14Have any of you partaken
18:15in Happy Eddie's devil's lettuce?
18:17I have.
18:18Stacy,
18:19I hear you were enjoying
18:20the gummies at Wendy's party.
18:22I salute your husband's business,
18:24and I think you will be so successful.
18:27More than you can imagine.
18:29Well, Stacy,
18:30aren't you trying to start
18:31your own Happy Eddie?
18:33Oh, are you?
18:34Huh?
18:35Stacy Stacy?
18:36Yeah.
18:37Oh.
18:38You don't know what I'm talking about?
18:39Absolutely not.
18:42When she comes out
18:43with Happy Stacy next season,
18:44Stacy Stacy?
18:45don't be surprised.
18:49Coming up next...
18:51Megan from Houston said,
18:52Jassie,
18:53it appears to me
18:54that you were the side chick
18:55who made the dude
18:56leave his family.
18:57Oh.
18:58Damn!
18:59Megan!
19:06Aren't you trying
19:07to start your own Happy Eddie?
19:09No.
19:10You didn't have a meeting
19:11with someone,
19:12and you told him
19:13that you're a celebrity?
19:15Absolutely not.
19:16Because he asked you,
19:17why on earth
19:18do I need to work with you?
19:19And you were like,
19:20because I'm a celebrity.
19:21Absolutely not.
19:22When she comes out
19:23with Happy Stacy next season,
19:24Stacy Stacy?
19:25don't be surprised.
19:26Oh, God.
19:27That's mine.
19:28Stacy,
19:29I hope you don't do that
19:30without telling me.
19:31I love Happy Eddie,
19:32and you know that.
19:33I'll tell you now.
19:34I don't know
19:35what she's talking about.
19:36Okay.
19:37Is that what you did
19:38with Karen and the candles?
19:39Oh.
19:40Who, me?
19:41Oh, no.
19:42That's what Karen did to you.
19:43That's what Karen did to me!
19:44Right, right.
19:45Karen copied my idea.
19:46There is no real comparison
19:47between what Wendy's doing
19:48and what I am doing
19:49with the candles.
19:50I respect Wendy
19:51choosing the one wig.
19:52I got the three wig.
19:53Aaron from Salt Lake City
19:54said it was great
19:55seeing you prioritize life
19:56and take the leap
19:57to leave your professor job.
19:58Do you really think
19:59it's fair to stipulate
20:00that your children
20:01don't get an inheritance
20:02unless they get
20:03a master's degree?
20:04Isn't that
20:05your whole point
20:06and isn't that
20:07your whole cross to bear
20:08with your own mother?
20:09May you guys do
20:10whatever your heart desires.
20:13My only requirement
20:14is a master's degree.
20:17And if you don't get
20:18your master's degree,
20:19please understand
20:20it is written
20:21in your trust fund
20:22and you will not
20:23get your money.
20:24So let me say this.
20:25We have a trust
20:26for our children.
20:27There's different stipulations
20:28that allow you
20:29to get a bonus,
20:30whether they get
20:31a master's degree or not.
20:32If they get
20:33a master's degree,
20:34they get X amount
20:35of extra dollars.
20:36Wow.
20:37If they learn
20:38how to speak Igbo,
20:39which is our native tongue,
20:40they get X amount
20:41of dollars.
20:42Wow.
20:43I like that a lot too.
20:44Yeah.
20:45If my daughter
20:46joins my sorority,
20:47she gets X amount
20:48of dollars.
20:49I'm going
20:50through that now.
20:51It's incentivized.
20:52That's a really good idea.
20:53I like that.
20:54I want to incentivize
20:55my kid to go to camp.
20:56Wendy, that's good.
20:57That's good.
20:58That's really good.
20:59Wendy, that was
21:00really cool
21:01seeing you
21:02at the White House
21:03doing your big
21:04interview.
21:05It was.
21:06Was that surreal
21:07to watch that back
21:08after the way
21:09everything played out?
21:10It's absolutely surreal,
21:11especially after seeing
21:12the results of
21:13the 2024 election.
21:14Yeah.
21:15I'm so glad
21:16I was sharing that
21:17with my kids
21:18because who the hell
21:19knows where we're
21:20going to be
21:21four years from now.
21:22We won't be.
21:23Yeah.
21:24You also invited
21:25Karen to the White House
21:26just days before
21:27you found out
21:28she had been
21:29talking negatively
21:30about you.
21:31Do you have any regrets
21:32about inviting Karen
21:33to the White House?
21:34Yeah, I do regret it
21:35if I'm being honest.
21:36Stacy revealed
21:37that Karen said
21:38that you are
21:39self-involved
21:40and not a girl's girl.
21:41Yeah.
21:42What was your reaction
21:43when you heard it?
21:44You seemed to believe it
21:45even though you said
21:46something about it
21:47felt off.
21:48Yeah, because
21:49what reason
21:50does Stacy have to lie?
21:51That will cause
21:52more friction
21:53for her and the group.
21:54So yeah,
21:55I believed
21:56what Stacy said.
21:57The only thing
21:58I would say about that,
21:59though, Stacy,
22:00is that I didn't think
22:01it was kind
22:02of going south
22:03to bring that to Wendy.
22:04So I didn't think
22:05that was nice.
22:06It was a little bit more
22:07than not getting along.
22:08I stood by Karen
22:10when Nia and Jacqueline
22:12were making
22:13a mockery of her.
22:14Why does everybody
22:15have a heart on for Karen?
22:16No.
22:17No, we don't.
22:18She's hurt.
22:19And months later,
22:20she didn't stand by me.
22:22I don't even think
22:23that Karen
22:24is participating
22:25in the show.
22:26And so I chose
22:28at that time
22:29to tell the truth.
22:31And funny enough,
22:32when Stacy was joining
22:33the group,
22:34I haven't told you this,
22:35Karen told me,
22:36be careful
22:38of the woman
22:39that's coming into the group
22:40because she's really smart
22:42and she's really educated.
22:44Is she?
22:47Oh.
22:48Why would she say that?
22:50Is Stacy smart and educated?
22:53You don't think
22:54Stacy seems educated?
22:56I do have a degree
22:57and I'm very smart
22:58and educated
22:59and compassionate
23:00and a wonderful person.
23:01Yes.
23:02And I have no idea
23:03why Karen
23:04wouldn't want two
23:05like-minded,
23:06wonderful,
23:07smart, educated people
23:08to be together.
23:09I don't think it had
23:10anything to do with that.
23:11I don't think it had
23:12anything to do with that.
23:13Let me say this.
23:14You did point out
23:15that you feel
23:16that Karen's M.O.
23:17is that she takes
23:18the new girl.
23:19Absolutely.
23:20And she tells them
23:21what she wants them to know
23:23about everybody.
23:24Yes.
23:25It's grooming.
23:26She grooms.
23:27Anytime there's a new person
23:28to come into the group,
23:29Karen
23:30secretly
23:31takes this person out
23:32and tries to skew them
23:34in a way
23:35that's great for Karen.
23:36You want a bit
23:37of advice though
23:38because you are new
23:39to the community.
23:40In Potomac,
23:41the women especially,
23:43it's respect
23:44that gets you
23:45into the circle.
23:46She grooms them.
23:47Okay, so you guys know
23:48what I'm saying is true.
23:49So Giselle,
23:50you know that this
23:51meeting took place
23:52at Tally Ho.
23:53Absolutely.
23:54Did she take you
23:55to Tally Ho?
23:56I've never been to
23:57the Tally Ho.
23:58She did befriend Kay.
23:59But she did
24:00befriend you.
24:01She did befriend me, guys.
24:03Okay, did she warn you
24:04about us?
24:05No, she did not warn me
24:06about anything.
24:07But here's the thing.
24:08Also, for me,
24:09like I said,
24:10I'm always going to have
24:11a soft spot for Karen
24:12because Karen's also
24:13this very same person
24:14that when I went through
24:15what I went through last season,
24:16she made it her business
24:17to personally take care of me.
24:18I get it.
24:19You know what I mean?
24:20So I see her differently.
24:21Can I say something
24:22though, Kay?
24:23My Kay,
24:24I say this with love,
24:25my Kay,
24:26I know how you see it,
24:27but how Karen sees it.
24:28I know.
24:29She likes
24:30the mother-goose relationships.
24:32Yeah.
24:33If she feels like
24:34she can mother you,
24:35she loves you.
24:36When you show her
24:37that not necessarily
24:38you don't need her,
24:39but you can exist
24:40in this group without her,
24:42she turns on you.
24:43That's very true.
24:44With all the talk
24:45about being self-absorbed,
24:46not a girl's girl,
24:47et cetera,
24:48does anyone here
24:49think this is a valid
24:50criticism of Wendy?
24:52Yes, she's self-absorbed.
24:53Yes, Wendy is definitely
24:54self-absorbed.
24:55In a good way.
24:56Listen,
24:57we all are.
24:58Aren't we all?
24:59Yeah.
25:00To a certain degree.
25:01Wendy is a lot to digest.
25:02I would agree with that.
25:03Let me tell you something.
25:04It takes a strong woman
25:06to be friends with me
25:07because I'm very sure
25:08of myself.
25:09Yes.
25:10I walk into a room
25:11like God sent me there
25:12because God did.
25:13Does that make sense?
25:14All right.
25:15We're going to leave it there
25:16and let me be the last person
25:17to wish you
25:18happy birthday.
25:19We are going to be
25:20right back after this.
25:21Not another happy birthday
25:22for Wendy.
25:23Sheesh.
25:24We've had other birthdays
25:25than Andy.
25:26It's been my birthday
25:27since I've been happy.
25:28Did you turn 40?
25:29I did.
25:30I heard there was
25:31some drama
25:32at your birthday, girl.
25:33There was.
25:34We're going to bring it up.
25:35Are we?
25:36Oh, yes, we are.
25:37Coming up next.
25:38Liar.
25:39Wait, did you not invite them?
25:40You're a liar.
25:41Again?
25:42Did you not invite them
25:43to come?
25:44Okay, Giselle,
25:45I know you're mad at me,
25:46but honey,
25:47you must not be mad
25:48at me.
25:49I'm not mad at you.
25:50I'm not mad at you.
25:51I'm not mad at you.
25:52I'm not mad at you.
25:53I'm not mad at you.
25:54If you're mad at me,
25:55but honey,
25:56you were snatched?
25:57She ain't talking to you.
25:58She ain't talking to you.
25:59She isn't talking to you.
26:01She said, thank you.
26:02Hello, ladies.
26:03Hello, everyone.
26:04Hey, Jace.
26:05Hey, Christine.
26:06Hi.
26:07Hi.
26:08You look gorgeous.
26:09So nice to meet you.
26:10You look gorgeous.
26:11You look so pretty.
26:12My name is Stacy.
26:13I'll go stand up
26:14when I get the camera.
26:16You look stunning too, Mia.
26:17You look so pretty.
26:18Hey, beautiful.
26:19Wow.
26:20Stacy.
26:21My girl.
26:22Cam is not here.
26:23Four, three.
26:26We are back with the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion,
26:28and Jazzy has entered the scene.
26:31Hey, there.
26:32Hi, Andy.
26:32What a pleasure to meet you.
26:34You too.
26:35Congratulations on your engagement.
26:38Do you have a date set for the wedding?
26:39I do.
26:41What season is it?
26:42It is definitely a summer wedding.
26:43I'm actually told that you have the invite with you.
26:47Oh.
26:47Should I bring it out now?
26:49Yes, right there.
26:50Now's the time.
26:51Gosh, that's beautiful.
26:52Go ahead and pass it down.
26:53You guys will get your own invite as well.
26:55So pretty.
26:56Wow.
26:57This is amazing.
26:58Wow, and it's a great mirror.
27:02It is.
27:03You know, I like that too, Andy.
27:05I know you like it.
27:08Are all the women invited?
27:09Of course.
27:10Yes.
27:11Where's Darius playing these days?
27:14Darius is the NFL player for the Dallas Cowboys.
27:16So we're living between both, but we're back in Maryland
27:19for the off season.
27:20You had a little bit of turbulence with the group.
27:22When the ladies started questioning the timeline
27:24of your relationship, Megan from Houston said,
27:27Jassie, it appears to me that you
27:29were the side chick who made the dude leave his family.
27:32Oh, jeez.
27:33Not me.
27:33Megan.
27:34Mia, you were a side chick.
27:36What's your professional side chick take?
27:38Damn, Megan.
27:39All right, coming in hot.
27:41Who is Megan?
27:42You guys have only been together, what, a couple years?
27:45He's a great father to two boys that were
27:47both already created before me.
27:50How old are the children?
27:52The children are three and turned one a month ago.
27:57Let's be clear, I was never a side chick.
27:59I am the whole production, baby.
28:01Nothing about me gives side chick.
28:02OK, with all due, you were building your friendship
28:06with him while he was with another woman.
28:08And I had no idea.
28:09He's never posted the woman on his social media.
28:12He never said to you, I have a serious girlfriend?
28:14Oh, I just had a child.
28:15Well, I know that even she also said that they were not
28:19together when she was pregnant.
28:20She said that.
28:21So it was unbeknownst to me.
28:23If I'm going to be a side chick, I'm going to get me an Andy Cohen.
28:26I'll be your side chick, Andy.
28:27But, you know, and it's so frustrating
28:29because Monday through Sunday, every day of the week,
28:32it never gave side chick.
28:33Well, Jazzy, this season you coined
28:36a new name for the GNA duo, Gangstas in Alcohol,
28:40which brings us to our next topic.
28:42As the GNA brand moved from athleisure
28:45to health and wellness, Giselle and Ashley,
28:49you were also in a state of transition.
28:51Let's take a look.
28:53We're inviting you all to an event.
28:54It's called GNA Fusion.
28:55GNA, Giselle and Ashley, was all about athleisure, fun,
28:59sexy little clothes.
29:01But we're moving in a different direction,
29:03towards health and wellness.
29:06And as my father passed from a brain tumor,
29:09I felt a need to make it a little bit more meaningful.
29:13I told you I was being given an award, right?
29:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:16But I won't miss your event.
29:17There are two events scheduled at the same time.
29:20That's not what friends do to each other.
29:22This is a real event.
29:23We're raising real money.
29:24What is she being honored for?
29:26Running into a tree?
29:26We're just creating our plan to make it to your event.
29:31If you guys aren't here by eight.
29:33No, ladies, no.
29:35How are you?
29:36I'm Namsa.
29:37Okay, nice to meet you, Namsa.
29:39To us, and those dimples on the side of your face.
29:42How are you?
29:43Hello.
29:44Josh.
29:44Nice to meet you, Josh.
29:45Very nice to meet you.
29:46I feel like I gotta test drive some cars.
29:48Good to see you.
29:49Good to see you again.
29:50I like him a lot.
29:51I haven't liked anyone this much since Michael.
29:54You could do better than Jack Harlow now.
29:59Yo, that beard grows in better than me.
30:02I am ready to fully proceed with my divorce.
30:05Hopefully, I will be officially done
30:08with the process by next week.
30:11Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're changing to this.
30:14We're changing to this.
30:16All right, Ashley.
30:17Yes, Andy.
30:19What question am I gonna ask you right now?
30:21Is it about Josh?
30:22No.
30:23It's the same question I ask you every year.
30:27When is the divorce?
30:28Do you have a date?
30:29I can file in February.
30:30Okay.
30:31I wanna start, of course, Ashley, with your non-divorce.
30:35See, it's not even in my frontal.
30:37It's like in the rear view so much,
30:38but it's still in the hands of the state of Virginia.
30:42Okay.
30:42No, but you filed.
30:43I filed, so I've signed everything.
30:44Michael signed everything.
30:46We have nothing else to do with the situation.
30:47Okay.
30:48Do you get child support and alimony?
30:50I do get child support.
30:51I waived the right to alimony.
30:53You did?
30:54When I signed that prenup.
30:55And you're the opposite, right, Stacey?
30:57That's correct.
30:58You get alimony, but no child support.
31:00Okay.
31:01Where are you with your divorce?
31:03We're in the final stages.
31:04And again, I'm waiting for the judge to sign off.
31:07We've already agreed on everything.
31:08Girl.
31:09No lies.
31:10Yes, I am getting a divorce.
31:11Okay, so you and Gordon are just co-parenting right now.
31:141000%.
31:15Okay.
31:16Okay.
31:16Back to Ashley.
31:17Yeah.
31:18Back to you.
31:19Yeah, we love the marriage process.
31:20Patricia from Austin, Texas said,
31:22does GNA even support child support?
31:25No.
31:26No.
31:27No.
31:28No.
31:28No.
31:29No.
31:30No.
31:31No.
31:32No.
31:33No.
31:33No.
31:34No.
31:35No.
31:36No.
31:37No.
31:38No.
31:38No.
31:40Do you even sell clothes?
31:41Your website's just photos of Giselle and Ashley.
31:44So, I mean, the timing was kind of off
31:47for us selling apparel.
31:49With me going through my situation,
31:51I didn't know the state of my finances.
31:52I was like, hey, I'm not really willing
31:54to invest as much money in a new business.
31:56So we pivoted to more community outreach,
31:58health and wellness.
31:59Community outreach.
32:00So it's a non-profit.
32:01No, it's a fashion line.
32:02We're a liaison.
32:03No, they got rid of the fashion.
32:04We're a liaison between the community and the charity.
32:06Boom.
32:07Okay.
32:08Community outreach.
32:09What's next?
32:10What's step phase three?
32:11We'll see if you're invited.
32:12Oh, okay.
32:14Well, maybe I won't come.
32:14We'll see if you're invited.
32:15Don't.
32:16I won't.
32:17Yay.
32:18So it's not a money-making endeavor anymore?
32:22That's not the focus.
32:23No.
32:24No.
32:25Yeah.
32:26The focus is?
32:26Is health and wellness.
32:27Yeah, health and wellness.
32:28Helping the community, yes.
32:29Okay.
32:30Lots to discuss about the dueling events drama.
32:33Brittany from New Mexico said,
32:34if you say yes to one event
32:36and are later invited to another,
32:38shouldn't you prioritize the first event you RSVP to?
32:43Mm-hmm.
32:44Anybody want to answer?
32:45I'm sorry.
32:46We wanted to land at the GNA so we can stay there
32:48because we wanted to spend more time with you guys.
32:50The event was over by now.
32:51The event ended at nine.
32:52Y'all got there at 8.03.
32:53That's less than an hour that you want to be there.
32:55I'm respecting what Wendy did.
32:57They said we just go in pairs.
32:58Yeah.
32:59Cool.
33:00Like, you know what?
33:01You guys could have given us a little bit of grace,
33:02even if that just meant quietly kicking us out.
33:05How do you do that?
33:06Quietly kicking you out?
33:07Well, you were expecting us to ask us to leave.
33:09You don't yell across the room like a gangsta.
33:13Like, I was actually worried.
33:15Ladies, no, no, the event is almost over.
33:21Tell them to get out of here.
33:23Thank you, William.
33:24My anger was more towards Karen.
33:26I thought it was great to see you apologize soon after.
33:29It was really towards Karen
33:30because Karen knew exactly what she was doing.
33:33So apologies for throwing you out.
33:34I did, because I knew who I was mad at.
33:36It was Karen.
33:37Okay.
33:37We don't often see that.
33:38I know.
33:39It's a new leaf, Andy.
33:40I love it.
33:41Okay.
33:42Wow.
33:43Are you the grand dom?
33:44I'm Giselle.
33:45Okay.
33:46We're passing the title?
33:46I'm Giselle.
33:47Don't need a title.
33:50Jazzy, any final thoughts?
33:52You know, as difficult as it was to navigate a new group
33:56and hearing the side conversations about my personal life,
34:00I still really enjoyed this group.
34:02Since you're about to leave,
34:03can I ask, because when I saw you at the Christmas party,
34:06you had mentioned that
34:07s**t flew off the handle for Mia's birthday.
34:09And Wendy also alluded to it.
34:10Can we actually get some backstory?
34:13What happened with Mia's birthday in Miami?
34:14So we're going to talk about Miami.
34:17Let's talk about Miami.
34:21Let me get comfy.
34:22This is what happened.
34:23Mia sent out beautiful invitations to both Stacey and I.
34:28And Stacey said, come on, let's go to Miami.
34:31So we went to Miami.
34:33Didn't all let her tell her own story,
34:34but essentially Stacey landed and didn't hear from Mia.
34:37And at the end of the day,
34:38we did not see Mia when we went to Miami.
34:40What?
34:42Please explain.
34:43So first I want to say like,
34:44I have since spoken to both of them.
34:47You didn't talk to me.
34:48I did reach out to you.
34:49I texted you two days later.
34:50You haven't spoken to me.
34:51But I have reached out to her via text
34:53because it's 2025, right?
34:54No, you call people who show up for you, actually.
34:57Okay, true.
34:58Okay, but what happened?
34:59Mind you, I had hired a POC, an event planner,
35:03someone to dedicate, to make sure that you RSVP
35:06Point of contact.
35:07To my point of contact.
35:08Okay, sorry.
35:09I was like, is that a probation officer?
35:10Oh my God.
35:11What is a POC?
35:12And I personally did not know
35:17that the ladies were coming to town.
35:19You are a liar.
35:20I did not have.
35:21You're a liar.
35:22No, I didn't.
35:23You're a liar.
35:24I didn't know.
35:25You're a liar.
35:25I didn't know she was coming to town.
35:26Again, did you not invite them to come?
35:28I did invite them to come.
35:29You invited them?
35:30Are you kidding me?
35:31They didn't say we're coming?
35:32I did not tell you.
35:33No, I did not know.
35:33Oh my goodness.
35:34Thank you for your invitation.
35:35RSVP, can you say see me?
35:36I'm coming.
35:37You are a, oh my gosh.
35:38RSVP to my point of contact.
35:39Girl, bye.
35:40Where's the text?
35:41Stop.
35:4231313.
35:4331313.
35:44Don't play with me.
35:45Let me pull it up.
35:47When I learned that they were in town,
35:50I texted them both and I said,
35:52hey ladies, where are you guys?
35:53Hey, I heard you guys checked in for dinner.
35:55They came to the restaurant.
35:56Why didn't you respond to me when I arrived?
35:57Then they left the restaurant.
35:59But Mia, you're leaving out key points.
36:01They left the restaurant because you told them
36:03to arrive by eight.
36:04You didn't come until 11 o'clock.
36:06I can't get up.
36:07That's why they left.
36:07We arrived at nine o'clock.
36:09We were, I was an hour late to my birthday.
36:11Read her message and read my response.
36:12Read the message.
36:13Read her message.
36:22We were, I was an hour late to my birthday.
36:24Read her message and read my response.
36:25Read the message.
36:25Read her message and we can end this.
36:28You said, I'm thrilled to announce the celebration
36:31of the start of my final 40.
36:32Okay, itinerary, yacht day party.
36:35All white, exclusive dinner at Barton G's.
36:37All black.
36:38All the details.
36:39After party.
36:40Please let me know.
36:40Can't wait to celebrate together.
36:42The response is, Mia, thank you so much
36:45for the special surprise.
36:46How fab.
36:47I'm so excited to celebrate with you, babe.
36:50I'm coming.
36:51This is a receipt I like.
36:53You say, amazing.
36:55Can't wait to see you, beautiful.
36:57Champagne clink, balloon.
37:00And then she says, this is now on Sunday.
37:03Happy birthday, beautiful.
37:04This is a text I did not get.
37:06No, no, no.
37:07Let him speak.
37:08Hold on.
37:09She says, happy birthday, beautiful.
37:12I am here in Miami, ready to celebrate you.
37:16And hold on.
37:17It was read the following day.
37:22You respond at 12.15 in the morning then.
37:27And you say, queen, where are you, love?
37:29She asked me at 12 o'clock in the morning.
37:31She's a horrible friend.
37:33You're a horrible friend.
37:35Let it be.
37:35Listen, I don't lie.
37:37I'm not a liar.
37:38And then Stacey says, I'm so excited to celebrate you.
37:41I texted and called you with no response all day.
37:44And I still showed up to your dinner party
37:46and no one was there an hour after it started.
37:49And you still didn't reach out to me.
37:51That was disappointing and disrespectful.
37:53Look forward to seeing you soon.
37:55So what's the problem?
37:56Mia.
37:57What do you mean, so what's the problem?
37:58So she showed up to your dinner.
37:59You never reached out to me.
38:01Why?
38:02Stacey, I do apologize.
38:04I do.
38:05A little too late.
38:06She RSVP'd and said, I can't go on the yacht,
38:08but I'm coming to the dinner.
38:10So you did though?
38:11I knew she was coming to dinner, yes.
38:13But then when I got to the dinner,
38:15they told me that she had left.
38:16You were an hour late.
38:17But did you get to the dinner an hour late?
38:19I was an hour late.
38:20You were an hour late for your dinner?
38:21Yeah, it's my birthday.
38:23Okay.
38:24I flew to Miami to try to support you
38:26on behalf of not only just your birthday,
38:29but also Stacey, who has a child,
38:31who left her child at home to be there to support you.
38:34Even when I was telling you how upset she was,
38:36you didn't care.
38:37You never reached out to me.
38:38What's Jacqueline in this equation?
38:40You were talking to Jacqueline.
38:40She was there.
38:41Jacqueline was the one who told me that Stacey was upset.
38:43Jacqueline told me that Mia was more worried about Inc.
38:45Okay.
38:46Do you feel bad about it?
38:48I do feel bad, I do.
38:49Like, I really, really do feel bad
38:51because I did want to have an opportunity
38:53to have a good time with these girls.
38:55Oh, that's a lie.
38:56It's inexcusable.
38:57I agree with you.
38:58You agree?
38:59Yeah.
39:00Okay.
39:01If we're being honest,
39:01the elephant in the room is she invited these two women.
39:04I don't know if anybody else got an invite.
39:06Oh, hell no.
39:07Exactly, so that's a bigger point.
39:09Wait, you guys weren't invited?
39:10No.
39:11You invited us and we showed up.
39:13So that's what I'm trying to say.
39:13And you ghosted us.
39:14That's what I'm trying to say.
39:15If you only have relationships
39:18with two girls in the group,
39:20and those two girls show up for you,
39:22you shouldn't ghost the ones who show up for you.
39:25Yeah, invoice her for your flight.
39:26I'm good.
39:27Well done, well, she's crying,
39:28so I want to know why.
39:29No, it's fine.
39:30Why is she crying?
39:31It's just been a rough time, that's all.
39:34That's all.
39:35I've been going through a lot, guys.
39:36I'm sorry.
39:37Well, it's okay.
39:38It'll get better.
39:39I'm sorry.
39:40Maybe this is just me today.
39:42I feel like this is what you do
39:45when your back is up against the wall.
39:46You start crying to seek sympathy.
39:49And Mia, as your friend, I'm sorry,
39:51but that stops today.
39:52I can't hold back my tears.
39:54It doesn't matter if you cry or not.
39:56You're wrong.
39:57So I'm emotional because of everything that's going on.
40:01I f***ed up, again.
40:02So I'm taking full accountability
40:05because I know I haven't been the best friend to you guys.
40:08I know I haven't been the best person in general
40:11because I'm going through a lot.
40:13We are all going through a lot, every day.
40:16We're all different, and we react to things differently,
40:18and we also have different experiences in life.
40:21I know you to be a good friend, typically.
40:22So who is this Mia?
40:23I know how to be a good friend.
40:26Yeah, to us.
40:27But this season of my life, I have fallen short.
40:31It's like a three year season.
40:32Okay.
40:33All right.
40:34Well, we're going to leave it there.
40:35I'm going to say goodbye to my side check, Jazzy.
40:39Thank you, Jazzy.
40:40Thank you so much.
40:41I appreciate it.
40:42We're going to take a break.
40:45Bye, Andy.
40:47Thank you guys.
40:48Thank you so much.
40:49Bye, Jazzy.
40:50That's horrible.
40:51Karen said, I never, I never.
40:58How long does this break?
40:59Five minutes?
41:01I'm just going to get touched up real quick.
41:08Stacey, can I come in?
41:10It's Mia.
41:12Hi, honey.
41:14Hi, gorgeous.
41:15Hi.
41:16How are you?
41:17How are you feeling?
41:18I'm okay.
41:20I obviously love and care about both of you ladies.
41:23Why did you ghost us?
41:24I'm asking you.
41:25Didn't ghost you intentionally.
41:28I didn't.
41:29So what happened?
41:29I have not been a good friend.
41:31I don't have the capacity to be a good friend right now.
41:33I just don't.
41:38I just feel like you're crying now
41:42because we're calling you out.
41:44You didn't even say anything to us
41:48until we were back in DC.
41:52It just doesn't feel genuine.
41:53I'm sorry.
41:55Okay.
41:58It's okay.
41:58Okay.
41:59All right, well, we can't receive it right now.
42:01It's okay.
42:02All right, well, thanks for listening.
42:04Thanks for listening.
42:09I see you're going to the bathroom.
42:10I'm leaving.
42:11You're leaving?
42:13Security guards.
42:16I'm sorry, y'all.
42:18I'm sorry.
42:22Next week on The Real Housewives of Potomac.
42:24Reunion.
42:24She told me to f**k that bitch.
42:26Stacey, you talk like that?
42:28Destroy 313.
42:30All of this is orchestrated.
42:31But she's getting divorced.
42:32That's a lie.
42:33Exploiting your family.
42:34These stories don't add up.
42:36That's it.
42:37The truth hurts, I guess.
42:39I'm leaving.
42:40Hey, what's going on?
42:42Shut the f**k up.
42:44What's the matter?
42:45What?