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00:00OCTOBER 2019
00:09This is terrible!
00:12No, no, you're crazy!
00:14No way!
00:16I'm going to get killed!
00:19No, sorry.
00:20It's going to rain soon.
00:22Really?
00:26No, no, no!
00:27It can't rain right now!
00:30I'm always waiting downstairs. What's going on today?
00:37You know, I've been waiting for you in Kyoto the other day.
00:43You called me over.
00:47What? Here?
00:50Here?
00:53Here?
00:55Here?
00:58Here?
01:01Can I come in?
01:04Excuse me.
01:07Where is it?
01:10It's over here.
01:14What is this?
01:16Do I take off my shoes?
01:19Is it okay?
01:22Where is it?
01:26Luxury private sauna?
01:30Is there such a thing as a private sauna?
01:34It's on the left.
01:37Here?
01:39Can I open it?
01:41Yes.
01:43Are you kidding me?
01:46Hey!
01:50You!
01:53Let's go home.
01:56I'm ready.
01:58You're ready?
02:00I'm ready.
02:02What are you talking about?
02:04I have to go to the sauna in front of the town.
02:07You...
02:09I have to go to the sauna in front of the town.
02:11You...
02:13I have to go to the sauna in front of the town.
02:17It's my private time.
02:19Is it like a routine?
02:21Did you really go in?
02:22Yes, I did.
02:23It took me less than an hour.
02:25Did you really go in?
02:26Yes, I did.
02:30Why did you do that?
02:32You went out once, didn't you?
02:34Yes, but it was remote.
02:36Four years ago.
02:38He didn't invite me at all.
02:42Hey, Kitayama.
02:44I quit.
02:47I packed it in the corner of a certain program.
02:51Oh, I see.
02:52It was remote before.
02:54It was remote at that time.
02:56I see.
02:57Thank you for today.
02:59No, no, no.
03:01I prepared a lot.
03:02Really?
03:03Yes.
03:04You're the first director.
03:06Yes, I am.
03:07I'm glad.
03:08It's the first time for me, too.
03:10Yes, it is.
03:11So I was nervous.
03:13I was like,
03:14Is it your first time?
03:16Thank you for today.
03:18I'll tell you what we're going to do later.
03:20I see.
03:21I've found a lot of places like this.
03:25I didn't know there was a place like this.
03:27It's my first time, too.
03:2880 minutes.
03:29Is it cheap?
03:31It's a few hundred yen in the city.
03:34Is it that cheap?
03:36You can go around the city.
03:38It's so beautiful.
03:41Is this a place for men?
03:43Yes, it is.
03:44It's a men's specialty store.
03:45I see.
03:46It's long.
03:48A man.
03:49Isn't it good?
03:51Please put this on.
03:55It's such a beautiful place.
03:57Please put it on where you can't see it anymore.
03:59I'll put it on the most visible place.
04:06Wow, there's fire.
04:08It was snowing today.
04:10Right?
04:11It was cold.
04:12Was it me?
04:13Maybe it was me.
04:16That's amazing.
04:17There's a high possibility it was me.
04:19Yes, yes.
04:21What are you doing?
04:24What is it, Mikkun?
04:25It's Mikkun.
04:26It's Mikkun.
04:29What do you want to do today, Mikkun?
04:31Today, I want to have a good time with Hama-chan.
04:40Hama-san, I want to have a good time with you.
04:44I don't know how to say good time.
04:47I prepared it.
04:48I want to make you happy.
04:52You went to great lengths.
04:54I want to make Hama-chan happy.
04:56A great plan.
04:57I see.
04:58Kitayama-ryu.
04:59I want to make you happy in a deep spot.
05:01I see.
05:02That's the first one.
05:03That's good.
05:04The second one.
05:05I want to make you happy with retro sweets.
05:08Sweets?
05:09Sweets.
05:10And the third one.
05:12I want to make you happy in a circle.
05:16With these three.
05:17Really?
05:18I want to make you dizzy.
05:21I understand.
05:22Yes.
05:23Do I go around in order?
05:25Yes.
05:26What will happen?
05:27What is this?
05:30Hama-san.
05:32Okay, I got it.
05:33One, two, three.
05:34Good evening, Hama-chan.
05:36I've been waiting for you, Hama-chan.
05:38It's been four years.
05:40Hama-chan, a great plan.
05:45It's been four years?
05:46That was four years ago?
05:47It's been four years.
05:49I see.
05:50A lot has happened in the past four years.
05:52No, you.
05:53No, no, no.
05:54You were there.
05:55You were there.
05:56Well, well, well.
05:57That's true.
05:58You know what?
05:59You look like you're having a good time.
06:01No, I'm not.
06:05I can't believe this is happening.
06:08I've never seen anything like this.
06:10I've never seen anything like this.
06:12What should I do with this?
06:14Just put it on top of the udon.
06:17He's happy.
06:18He's happy.
06:19I'm not happy.
06:20I've never seen anything like this.
06:25I don't get it.
06:27Is this really the entrance?
06:40You've been to Osaka before, right?
06:44Yes, yes.
06:45You've been to Osaka before, right?
06:47Yes, I have.
06:48Yes, I have.
06:49What do you do after that?
06:50You don't go out much, do you?
06:52I don't go out that much.
06:54You don't go out that much, do you?
06:55I just go to the venue and come back to the hotel.
06:58I just go to the venue and come back to the hotel.
06:59I just close the curtains in the car and go to the venue and come back to the hotel.
07:06I feel sorry for you.
07:08I've been to restaurants that the agency prepared for me.
07:16I've been to restaurants that the agency prepared for me.
07:17That's what happens to people who sing.
07:21There are curtains everywhere in the countryside.
07:24I don't know where I am.
07:26I'm just put in a restaurant that the agency prepared for me.
07:29I'm just put in a restaurant that the agency prepared for me.
07:30I'm told to eat this.
07:33I didn't know much about Osaka.
07:37I didn't know much about Osaka.
07:38I see.
07:39I see.
07:40I really wanted to go to a deep place.
07:43I really wanted to go to a deep place.
07:44I don't know how deep it is.
07:49I don't know how deep it is.
07:50I don't know how deep it is.
07:51Really?
07:52Really?
07:54Osaka's...
07:56Osaka's...
07:57Osaka's...
07:58I used to go to a golf course with my friends.
08:03I used to go to a golf course with my friends.
08:04I did.
08:05Do you remember my last pattern?
08:08Do you remember my last pattern?
08:09I messed up everything at the end.
08:12It was a miracle.
08:13It was a miracle.
08:14I see.
08:15You met my friends.
08:16I met my friends.
08:17Three of you.
08:18Three of you.
08:19I was so happy.
08:22I sometimes remember it.
08:25I wish that would happen.
08:27Since then, I've met Nick.
08:31Since then, I've met Nick.
08:32We've met for a while.
08:34We've met for a while.
08:35It's been a while.
08:36It's been a while.
08:37That's right.
08:39Although I've met him in other previous shows,
08:42although I've met him in other previous shows,
08:45I don't come across Nick that much.
08:48Can you be more free from now on?
08:51Can you be more free from now on?
08:52If there is enough time.
08:54If there is enough time.
08:55Iて
08:56schedule management is...
09:01everything depends on you.
09:04I'd like to know what you think about it.
09:07But if you think about it,
09:09you're the first member I met.
09:13That's right.
09:16I became a big star on a TV show,
09:18and the other members started to cook better than me.
09:23But you're a special student.
09:25That's right.
09:26I've learned a lot.
09:28There are still people like that.
09:29There are.
09:30I'm not retired yet.
09:31I'm only in the 5th grade.
09:33I'm still a special student.
09:35You're not getting any better.
09:38Hankyu train.
09:39It's in front of the station.
09:40Right.
09:41Osaka, Hankyu.
09:41Osaka. Umeda station.
09:44We're going to get on the train now.
09:46What?
09:46Let's get on the train.
09:47Oh, wow.
09:49It's been a while.
09:51Let's go to a deep spot.
09:52Yes.
09:53From now on.
09:54Hey, you're great.
09:56It's been a while since I've been reminded of the early days of Gomu Gomu.
10:01You were definitely on the train at first.
10:03Oh, really?
10:04Yes.
10:05I don't really get on the train.
10:09And I'm from Osaka.
10:11Do you know how to buy a ticket?
10:13No, no, it's not like that.
10:15I really don't know.
10:17I have a watermelon.
10:22Wait a minute.
10:23I have a watermelon, too.
10:25I just bought juice at a vending machine.
10:29It's true that the culture of buying a ticket has changed a lot recently.
10:34That's right.
10:35I don't really know.
10:37Oh, it's true.
10:39It's the first time I've been on a Hankyu train for a variety show.
10:42You're a salesman.
10:43Why is that?
10:44I couldn't get off the station.
10:46That's right.
10:47Hankyu train.
10:48Yes.
10:49Wow.
10:50You're an elegant person.
10:51No, I'm not.
10:53That's true.
10:54Hankyu train is a little...
10:58It's a little bumpy, so it's okay.
11:02No, no, I heard you were rejected.
11:08Wow, this is...
11:11Mikkun, this is amazing.
11:13You can get on a Hankyu train.
11:14I can get on a Hankyu train.
11:17Oh, thank you.
11:18I'm sorry to bother you.
11:20Oh...
11:22I wanted to buy a ticket.
11:25No way.
11:29That's right.
11:30When we went to Kyoto,
11:32we went on a Hankyu train.
11:36I have no idea where it is.
11:40That's right.
11:41This is Kyoto line.
11:43Kyoto line.
11:44Yes.
11:45Kyoto line.
11:46Kawaramachi.
11:47Kawaramachi.
11:48Yes, yes, yes.
11:49I was depressed when I went to Kyoto.
11:55Wow.
11:57When was the last time you got on a train?
11:59Well, this show started
12:02when I got on a train
12:05and got off somewhere.
12:12How old are you now?
12:14I'm 39 years old.
12:15Wow.
12:16I'm turning 40 this year.
12:18Wow.
12:19That's right.
12:20Are you still single?
12:21I'm still single.
12:22I was married to Okura today.
12:24I see.
12:25You were married.
12:26I was surprised.
12:27I was like, wow.
12:29We're the same age.
12:30We're the same age.
12:32I'm still single.
12:33I'm still single.
12:36That's weird.
12:37That's what it is.
12:38I can't help but think about it.
12:40I can't help but think about it.
12:41If you're still single,
12:42it means you have a flaw.
12:45That's all there is to it.
12:46I used to think I didn't have a flaw.
12:49But now that I think about it,
12:51I think I do have a flaw.
12:53That's probably because
12:54when you're with a girl,
12:56you think she's different.
12:59Where should I get on?
13:00Over there.
13:03I don't know for sure,
13:04but you must have a flaw.
13:08I used to think that,
13:10but when I hear it,
13:11it breaks my heart.
13:16Let's go.
13:17That sticker...
13:21Did you see that sticker on your face?
13:23I did.
13:24You did?
13:25It was next to me when you hit me.
13:28Did you see it?
13:30It was there before.
13:31It was there during the remote.
13:32It was there.
13:34I think it was with Nika.
13:36Who?
13:37Nikaido.
13:38Maybe.
13:40I think Nika was there too.
13:41You're right.
13:42You two were there.
13:43Yes.
13:45What is this?
13:46It looks special.
13:48It's that thing.
13:50What?
13:51It's a private seat.
13:54Is there such a thing?
13:55It's different from a regular train.
13:57What?
13:58You added 500 yen.
14:00What?
14:01It's a special seat.
14:03It's a limited express train.
14:04I didn't know it was like this.
14:05I'm lending it to you
14:07to make you happy.
14:14I know.
14:16Really?
14:18That's amazing.
14:19But it's a private seat.
14:24But you added 500 yen.
14:26It's a special seat.
14:28But it's amazing.
14:30I didn't know it was like this.
14:32It's the first time I'm lending a train.
14:34Is that so?
14:35It's one train.
14:37It's this part, right?
14:38Yes.
14:39That's amazing.
14:40Let's go to the front.
14:41Okay.
14:45That's amazing.
14:48It's the first time I'm lending a train.
14:50That's amazing.
14:51I knew it.
14:53I knew you'd like it.
14:54Can I get on?
14:56Please be careful.
14:59I didn't know there was such a thing.
15:01I've never seen such a thing.
15:07That's amazing.
15:11It's the first time I'm lending a train.
15:12That's amazing.
15:13I knew you'd like it.
15:15I knew you'd like it.
15:16Can I get on?
15:18Please be careful.
15:21I didn't know there was such a thing.
15:23I've never seen such a thing.
15:27It's the first time I'm lending a train.
15:28This is...
15:30It's like this for 500 yen.
15:33It's good.
15:34And...
15:35Does it go down?
15:36It goes down.
15:39It goes down.
15:40There's a charger.
15:41There's a charger.
15:43What are you doing?
15:44I'm reading a book.
15:45Don't put it on.
15:46Don't put it on.
15:48Stop it.
15:50No, no.
15:51You're like an actress.
15:57It's 500 yen.
15:58Plus.
15:59It's 500 yen.
16:01When it's a long distance,
16:03even if it's 500 yen,
16:04would it be easier to get on?
16:06It's full of people who are inbound.
16:08What?
16:09If you want to sit down,
16:10there's a seat like this.
16:11Oh, I see.
16:14Oh, this is...
16:16This train is well-made.
16:19Do you want to take a commemorative photo?
16:20What do you mean?
16:21Since we're here.
16:22Yes.
16:23Let's take a commemorative photo.
16:24Mr. Cameraman.
16:27Mr. Cameraman.
16:28What's this?
16:30Mr. Cameraman.
16:31Oh, you're reading.
16:32Yes.
16:33I have to be smooth.
16:35Yes, yes.
16:36Yes.
16:37Please sit down.
16:40This photo will be a memorial.
16:45What if they don't come?
16:47You're going to use the photo later?
16:49That's right.
16:50What?
16:51What's that?
16:52This photo is quite important today.
16:54This photo is a vertical axis.
16:57Really?
16:58Yes.
16:59Oh, it's an axis.
17:01It's an axis.
17:03It's important.
17:06I heard it's a station.
17:08It's a really short station.
17:10It's not a special express train.
17:13It's a real station.
17:15There's a station called Nakatsu in between.
17:16Oh, there is?
17:17Yes, there is.
17:20The weather suddenly got cold.
17:23What's this?
17:24I was surprised.
17:25It was cold in the morning and it was snowing.
17:28How is it when you're shooting?
17:29In your case, is it raining?
17:32Yes, it's raining.
17:35It's raining and it's snowing.
17:38I was working in Fukushima the other day.
17:42As soon as I got there, the strongest wind came.
17:46It was snowing all the time.
17:49There was a road on the first day,
17:51but on the second day, the road was gone.
17:55It was snowing so much.
17:57I see.
17:58This is Yodogawa.
18:00This is Yodogawa.
18:02There's a river.
18:04It's beautiful now, right?
18:06Was it like this in the old days?
18:08In the old days...
18:13Osaka is a crazy place.
18:17I thought I'd be scolded by my sister.
18:20She turned it off when we were editing.
18:23She turned it off when we were editing.
18:25She turned it off when we were editing.
18:27I thought I'd be scolded by my sister.
18:29I thought I'd be scolded by my sister.
18:30She turned it off when we were editing.
18:32She turned it off when we were editing.
18:33She turned it off when we were editing.
18:42It's nice.
18:47We're getting off.
18:49We're getting off.
18:51I'm glad.
18:52I'm glad.
18:53We're getting off at a deep place.
18:55Have you ever been to Juso?
18:57I have, but I don't know much about it.
18:59I have, but I don't know much about it.
19:00I haven't been there much in the past.
19:05I'm sure it's okay now.
19:08You're sure it's okay now.
19:12We're getting off at a deep place in Kansai.
19:19Here you go.
19:21Juso is...
19:23What was it?
19:25The Hollywood actor...
19:27Steven Seagal used to live here.
19:30Really?
19:31Yes.
19:32Why?
19:33He married the daughter of the Aikido dojo in Juso.
19:37Is that true?
19:38He lived here for decades.
19:40He speaks Osaka dialect.
19:45Wonderful.
19:50It's amazing.
19:53It's my first time here.
19:55You're here.
19:56Yes.
20:01Oh, it's only for women.
20:04It's only for men.
20:06I didn't know it was only for women.
20:09I know.
20:11I thought it was just like that in Osaka.
20:14I thought Osaka was kind.
20:17I didn't know it was only for women.
20:21I thought it was only for women.
20:23I thought it was only for women.
20:24It's my first time here.
20:30I didn't know it was like this.
20:33I know.
20:34It's amazing.
20:35I know it's a bullet train.
20:38I don't know much about Juso.
20:40You don't, do you?
20:41No.
20:42I don't think so.
20:44I don't know much about it either.
20:46I don't know much about it.
20:47I see.
20:51Wow.
20:55I knew it.
20:57When you go on location,
21:02the city moves.
21:04Why?
21:06Because you can take the train that you couldn't take on location.
21:10It's a coincidence.
21:11You can take the train that you couldn't take on location.
21:12It's a coincidence.
21:13It's a coincidence.
21:19Is your name Mikkun?
21:21Where are you from?
21:24I'm from Kanagawa.
21:27Oh, that way.
21:28I'm not from the sea, I'm from the mountains.
21:31I'm from the mountains, Hachioji.
21:33In Kanagawa,
21:35if you ask where I'm from,
21:37they say Yokohama.
21:38Why is that?
21:40I think it's a small area.
21:44You just said Kanagawa,
21:47but I thought it would be weird to say Yokohama.
21:51That's true, but...
21:53I'm from the countryside,
21:56so I can't stretch my back like that.
21:58Even in Kanagawa.
22:00I live in a four-bedroom house,
22:03and I only drive one or two cars a week.
22:06I have to push a button.
22:07To open the door?
22:08Yes.
22:09I didn't know there was such a thing in the countryside.
22:11That's what I do.
22:13I didn't know there was such a thing.
22:15Yes.
22:16But if you take the train from Moeri Station for about an hour,
22:21you can go all the way to Chigasaki.
22:22I see.
22:23You can go to Southern Beach
22:25and play beach soccer.
22:29But it's only an hour.
22:31An hour?
22:33How can a country boy become an idol?
22:37It's strange.
22:38I think it's strange, too.
22:42I think the reason I became an idol
22:47was because I went to Horikoshi.
22:52I went to Horikoshi to play soccer.
22:56You went to a local high school?
22:58Yes.
23:02It's here.
23:03Where?
23:04It's here.
23:05No way.
23:07Seriously?
23:12Wakana Soba.
23:13Wakana Soba.
23:14Jyusoten.
23:16Kansai Eki Soba.
23:18Oh, I see.
23:20Let's go.
23:22There are a lot of people.
23:23Is the seat available?
23:25If you go to Osaka,
23:28I think it's Dashi.
23:30Dashi?
23:31Dashi?
23:32Dashi?
23:33Dashi?
23:34Dashi?
23:35Dashi?
23:36Dashi?
23:37Dashi?
23:38Dashi?
23:39Dashi?
23:40Dashi?
23:41I think it's Dashi.
23:44What should I do?
23:46Go in the back.
23:47Okay, thank you.
23:54I'll go in here.
23:56I'll go in here.
24:01I don't think there are many soba restaurants in this area.
24:05That's right.
24:06Nikkun, what kind of dashi do you like?
24:08Oh, I see.
24:09I see.
24:10That's right.
24:11It's called Dashi culture.
24:14I think I've never eaten it properly.
24:17When we had a meeting,
24:19I talked to him.
24:21The first time I went to Tokyo,
24:23I went down the monorail in Hamamatsu.
24:25There's a udon restaurant like this.
24:27When I went in, I was hungry.
24:29I ate all the udon noodles that came out.
24:32I thought it was a lie.
24:34That's what I thought.
24:36I was sitting over there.
24:39Kansai...
24:41I was surprised.
24:43I'm sorry. Thank you.
24:46First, Mr. Kitayama.
24:48You already ordered?
24:50Yes.
24:51Excuse me.
24:52Kasu udon, please.
24:54That's good.
24:55It looks delicious.
24:57It looks delicious. It's simple.
24:58That's good.
24:59I heard Osaka,
25:01but I don't think I've ever eaten Kasu udon properly.
25:05You can eat it first.
25:07That's good.
25:08I heard you'll make me happy next time.
25:10That's right.
25:11Next time, I'll make you happy.
25:13I'll be back.
25:15Sorry to keep you waiting.
25:17This is Potato Udon, which I'm proud of.
25:20You said you like potatoes.
25:22You said you like potatoes.
25:25Did you make this yourself?
25:29Yes.
25:30About 10 years ago.
25:32Is it on the menu?
25:33Yes.
25:35What should I do with this?
25:37Just put it on the udon.
25:42He's happy.
25:44I'm not happy.
25:45I'm surprised. I've never seen this before.
25:47Please put it in and try it.
25:49I'll put it out first.
25:51It's cold.
25:55That's good.
25:57This is it.
26:00Right?
26:02It's good.
26:03It's good, isn't it?
26:08It's good.
26:13If you don't put it in, it's just hot water.
26:18You can eat it as it is.
26:20Or you can eat it with the soup.
26:24Really?
26:26You can eat it as you like.
26:30It's my first time.
26:37It's good.
26:40I'll put this on the side.
26:44I can't imagine.
26:45I can't imagine.
26:56I can't imagine.
27:00I can't imagine.
27:02You eat 20 to 30 meals a day.
27:04If it's been going on for 10 years,
27:07I'll quit if it's not good.
27:10You have a fan.
27:17It's good.
27:18Can I try it?
27:21Yes.
27:24I'll try it.
27:27I don't know if the potato is good
27:30even if you soak it until it's soft.
27:33Actually,
27:34we're going to sell a new menu,
27:37which is Kasu Udon,
27:39which you're eating now.
27:41We're going to sell a new menu,
27:43which is Kasu Udon,
27:44which you're eating now.
27:46You haven't tried it yet.
27:48You should try it.
27:51I've already tried it,
27:53but I'll try it again.
27:55If you're going to do that,
27:57you should go with me.
28:00Don't you feel responsible for me?
28:03You should go with me.
28:10It's good.
28:12How is it?
28:14It's good.
28:16It's good.
28:18It's good.
28:20It's soft.
28:28You're eating a lot.
28:31It's good.
28:32Are the customers young?
28:34Yes,
28:35we have customers who are older than us.
28:38Is it bad?
28:39It's bad.
28:40It's bad.
28:41It's bad.
28:44It's not bad.
28:46It's because it's in the soup.
28:51He's going to come back.
28:55It's good.
28:56It's good.
28:58It's good.
29:01Do you want to take a commemorative photo?
29:03Here?
29:04Yes.
29:05Okay.
29:06What are you doing?
29:08You should be excited.
29:09Really?
29:10Can you bring the udon?
29:12Yes.
29:13Okay.
29:14Here we go.
29:15Okay.
29:16Okay.
29:19What are you going to do later?
29:21This is for Tateji.
29:23You and the staff are just here.
29:26I don't know what to do.
29:30See?
29:31It's definitely good.
29:33It's true.
29:34It's true.
29:35It's true.
29:36It's true.
29:37It's true.
29:38It's true.
29:39It's true.
29:40It's okay.
29:41I think it's good.
29:46I'll do it later.
29:47I haven't eaten at this slow pace.
29:52It was good.
29:55This is for you.
29:57No.
29:58Don't give it to him.
29:59I'm sorry.
30:01It's a sticker.
30:03You can keep it.
30:07It was delicious, thank you for the meal.
30:19A lot of people...
30:20There are definitely a lot of people today.
30:23Is it around noon?
30:25It's about 1pm now.
30:27It's strange to come to the station by train on a day when there are a lot of people.
30:34Isn't it great?
30:36It's a gobu-gobu style.
30:38This is Kitayama's unique way of thinking.
30:42In the end,
30:46if you do this until the end,
30:48you'll be able to see that this is what it was all about.
30:54Really?
30:56I'm doing this so that Ama-chan will be happy to see it.
31:02I'm going to do it slowly, so let's just end it here.
31:07There's no way I'm going to hold on for two minutes.
31:13What do I do with this?
31:15It's still inside.
31:17Oh, it's going to come out?
31:19So it's really just the udon?
31:26What's next?
31:29I'm sure Ama-chan will be happy.
31:31The next menu has already been decided, right?
31:33That's what I think, but...
31:39It's hard to get in.
31:41I think it's hard to get into this shop,
31:43but there's a delicious shop, right?
31:45Yes, yes, yes.
31:47That's what I'm worried about.
31:49But you can't get in.
31:51It's hard to get in.
31:53That's right, but today,
31:55I'm going to try to get in.
32:05There's a shop?
32:07In Juso?
32:09It's the first station I got off at in Juso.
32:13So I'm in the most difficult situation to get in.
32:19That's the same for me.
32:22I was wondering if you and I would be able to get out of the shop safely.
32:26It's a place like that.
32:28No, it's a long time ago.
32:34It has a history.
32:38Is this a shopping district?
32:40Yes, it's a shopping district.
32:42Is this famous?
32:44It's famous.
32:46It's famous.
32:48It's famous.
32:50It's lined up.
32:52Yes, yes, yes.
32:54The square one.
32:56Oh, I see.
32:58Have you ever tried it?
33:00Yes, I have.
33:02It's delicious.
33:04It's thick.
33:06It's a night shop.
33:08It's a night shop.
33:10You have a good sense of humor.
33:12I didn't know at all.
33:14It's been a long time.
33:16I'm Tsumi Dorian,
33:19Mr. Kitayama.
33:21It's been a long time.
33:23My hair was so long that I really didn't know.
33:25I thought it was a catch.
33:27I was surprised because it was Osaka.
33:29I was surprised because you suddenly came.
33:31What?
33:33I'd like to introduce myself today.
33:35It's a deep place.
33:37It's a deep place.
33:39Mr. Kitayama asked me to come here.
33:41I'd like to go to a shop that's hard to get in.
33:43I'd like to introduce myself.
33:45Let's go.
33:47It's a good place.
33:49I've never been to this town or this shop before.
33:51Let's go this way.
33:53It's been a long time.
33:55It's been a long time.
33:57I've been playing golf.
33:59I've been playing golf.
34:01I've been playing golf.
34:03I'm free.
34:05I'm free.
34:07I've heard a lot about you.
34:09I've heard a lot about you.
34:11Do you have a reason?
34:13Do you have a reason?
34:16We're here.
34:18We're here.
34:20I'd like to hear your reason.
34:22I'd like to hear your reason.
34:24I'd like to hear your reason.
34:26Let's cross the street.
34:28Let's cross the street.
34:30Congratulations.
34:32Congratulations.
34:34We're not fighting, are we?
34:36We're not fighting, are we?
34:38When I turned 40,
34:40I started thinking about what to do.
34:42I started thinking about what to do.
34:44As a man, I thought I had to do something.
34:49I see.
34:50I was protected from all kinds of things.
34:53That was the timing.
34:55It's tough.
34:56But you have to do it all by yourself.
34:58That's right.
34:59Did anything change in your life?
35:02In terms of work and life?
35:04It doesn't change when you work at the company, does it?
35:07That's right.
35:08The dressing room is all alone.
35:10Oh, I see.
35:11I see.
35:12What about that?
35:14Do you feel lonely?
35:15Yes, I do.
35:16I don't know what to do if I don't talk.
35:19I was always surrounded by people.
35:23Until now.
35:24When I went on a tour and went to the countryside,
35:26the dressing room was all alone.
35:29Basically, you played mobile games.
35:31I played mobile games.
35:33What's that?
35:34What's that?
35:35You have other things to do, don't you?
35:37The rehearsal was over.
35:39At that time, I had a chance to talk to the members.
35:46But now I'm all alone.
35:48It can't be helped.
35:50What about you, Mr. Hamada?
35:53Me?
35:54I'm not alone at all.
35:56On the contrary, I don't know why you guys are here.
36:00You use my dressing room as your dressing room.
36:05That's what happens when you have juniors.
36:10Oh, I see.
36:11Mr. Kitayama, I'd like to ask you a question.
36:14What is it?
36:15How do you get along with your juniors?
36:19I've been doing that for a long time.
36:23You've been doing that for a long time,
36:25but you're hungry these days.
36:28For example, you say,
36:30Let's go eat.
36:31I see.
36:32I'm not hungry.
36:35I'm hungry.
36:37I'm hungry.
36:39I'm not hungry.
36:41I'm hungry.
36:42I'm hungry.
36:43I'm hungry.
36:44I'm hungry.
36:45I'm hungry.
36:46I'm hungry.
36:47I'm hungry.
36:48This is difficult.
36:49It's been a year or two since 2B.
36:53I have a lot of juniors.
36:55I see.
36:56They're a little older than me.
36:59I have 40 to 50 juniors now.
37:02I see.
37:03I have two new groups.
37:05I see.
37:06And I have juniors.
37:11I know it's better to communicate.
37:15I see.
37:16But the distance between juniors and me
37:22and how I feel.
37:24It's communication.
37:25I see.
37:26I see.
37:27You have a good relationship with your juniors.
37:32But you're like a family.
37:35No, no, no.
37:36You guys are weird.
37:38I'm hungry these days.
37:42I'm sorry.
37:43Not always.
37:45Sometimes I wonder if I'm hungry.
37:50You're relaxed.
37:52I'm angry.
37:54You're angry.
37:56But I'm angry.
37:57And he's like,
37:58What's wrong?
38:01That's the only way to communicate.
38:04Did something bad happen?
38:06You're noisy.
38:08I'm sorry.
38:09We passed by.
38:10Really?
38:11You said it's hard to get in.
38:13We passed by.
38:14I'm sorry.
38:15I'm sorry.
38:16Really?
38:17You're kidding, right?
38:18Well.
38:19This way.
38:20This way.
38:21You're kidding.
38:22You're kidding.
38:23This way.
38:29You're kidding, right?
38:30Well.
38:31This way.
38:32This way.
38:33You're kidding.
38:34This way.
38:35This way.
38:36It's fast.
38:37It's hard to get in with two people in a line.
38:39You have to stand in a line.
38:40You have to stand in a line.
38:41So, let's go.
38:42Let's go.
38:43I'm glad I found this.
38:45Wow.
38:46I don't know about this.
38:48Is this Nomina?
38:50Is this the entrance?
38:51Is this the entrance?
38:52Is this the entrance?
38:53Yes.
38:54There is a shop in the back.
38:57Why are you crouching?
38:59I can't show my face on the camera.
39:01Don't do that.
39:02I can't show my face on the camera.
39:03This is the shop.
39:05This shop has been renovated for over 100 years.
39:11Wow.
39:12This is what it looks like inside.
39:13Wow.
39:14This is what it looks like inside.
39:15It's spacious.
39:16It's spacious.
39:17Welcome.
39:18This way.
39:19Wow.
39:20This is the shop.
39:21This is very interesting.
39:22This is a shop called Milly's Soba.
39:26Thank you for coming.
39:28What do you think about this shop?
39:30I wouldn't be able to get in if I were in Osaka.
39:34You're right.
39:35I wouldn't notice.
39:36You're right.
39:38Can I ask you two to come in?
39:42This is the shop.
39:44This is called Dragon Matong.
39:47Dragon Matong.
39:48Dragon Matong is a mature sheep.
39:50It has a firm texture.
39:52You often hear about lamb meat, right?
39:55Lamb meat is a small sheep.
39:57Please try this.
39:59Okay.
40:00It's a little spicy.
40:04It has a firm texture.
40:06I don't think it has a strong smell.
40:10It's like a little sheep from the back.
40:12It's good.
40:13It's good.
40:17It's really good.
40:19It's good.
40:20Is it good?
40:21There's one more thing.
40:22Yes.
40:23There's one more thing.
40:24Beer is the best.
40:25That's right.
40:26There's lamb meat here.
40:28There's lamb meat and lamb meat.
40:31You don't have to put that on.
40:34You can just drink beer.
40:36I'm sorry.
40:37This is a sheep deep kiss.
40:42This is a sheep tongue.
40:44Cook it at a low temperature.
40:47Grill it a little bit.
40:49Put it in a special white tea sauce.
40:52Just a little bit.
40:54It doesn't have a strong taste.
40:56You can taste the lamb later.
41:00In Osaka, people usually eat it like this.
41:06I don't think so.
41:09You can use it now, right?
41:11Can I use it?
41:14I'll be killed.
41:17Don't say you can't use it.
41:21How is it?
41:22It's good.
41:23It's chewy.
41:24It's good.
41:25It doesn't have a strong taste.
41:27The sauce mixes well.
41:30It's good.
41:31It's good.
41:32It's good.
41:33It's good.
41:35How is it?
41:36The outside is...
41:38Why is the inside so chewy?
41:40Is this cooked at a low temperature?
41:42Yes, it's cooked at a low temperature for 5 hours.
41:44The inside is not cooked that much.
41:45I see.
41:46You said it's a sheep deep kiss, right?
41:49But I've been thinking about my job lately.
41:52I've been calling my part-time job DK.
41:55I see.
41:56I've been thinking about it.
41:57I see.
41:58I see.
41:59I understand.
42:01I've been thinking about it.
42:04If you say that, I can't say anything.
42:07I can't say anything.
42:08I see.
42:09So I asked him what he was doing.
42:11I see.
42:14I have another question.
42:16Do you keep in touch with your members?
42:18Sometimes.
42:19I keep in touch with Miyachi.
42:21I see.
42:22We met twice the other day.
42:25We had a break.
42:27I kept in touch with him.
42:29Miyachi has a birthday soon.
42:32We had a meal together.
42:33I see.
42:34What kind of people do you hang out with?
42:37I usually hang out with Yabu-chan from Jump.
42:41Yabu from Heisei Jump.
42:42I hang out with Yabu-chan 2 or 3 times a month.
42:46What do you do?
42:47We eat together.
42:48I ask him what he's doing.
42:49When I ask him to have a meal,
42:50I ask him what time it is.
42:51We hang out there.
42:52You eat and drink.
42:54I drink a little.
42:55Yabu-chan is addicted to whiskey these days.
42:58Really?
42:59I drink soju.
43:00You drink whiskey.
43:01Sometimes, Yabu-chan gives me some.
43:03I see.
43:04Do you keep in touch with Hamada-san?
43:06Me?
43:07I've been in touch with him recently.
43:08I think it was New Year's Eve.
43:11Was it New Year's Eve?
43:12Yes, it was New Year's Eve.
43:14You want to hang out with him again, don't you?
43:16Yes, I do.
43:17Really?
43:18Yes, I do.
43:20I didn't do anything to you.
43:22Did you?
43:23When I was in charge of the inside,
43:29he told me to put him on the edge of the studio.
43:32I was like, what are you doing?
43:34You're not like a boss.
43:36Did I look like that?
43:38No, no.
43:39I was like, what's going on?
43:40Why?
43:41Why?
43:46I heard that you think Hamada-san is amazing.
43:51What?
43:52Don't tease me.
43:54I heard that he's really good at matching the times.
43:57What are you talking about?
43:58I don't know what you're talking about.
44:00I don't know either.
44:01For a while,
44:03I heard that Hamada-san would be successful if he was hit on the head.
44:07But now,
44:09there are a lot of things going on.
44:12And he hangs out with young people.
44:14Yes, yes.
44:15There are a lot of things going on.
44:16I heard that he's really good at matching the times.
44:19No, no.
44:20I heard that Hamada-san is really good at matching the times.
44:23So, I heard that he's really good at matching the times.
44:27I was surprised when I saw Kumi Koda-san the other day.
44:30She was sitting in front of the camera.
44:32She was like, what do you think about this?
44:33I was like, I think it's good.
44:34She was really tired.
44:35That's also a good point.
44:37I see.
44:38That's a good point.
44:39That's a good point.
44:41I had a hunch that he would be successful.
44:45That's a perfect hunch.
44:46He's good at matching the times.
44:48He's good at matching the times.
44:49He's good at matching the people.
44:50No, no.
44:51He's not uncomfortable with the people.
44:54He's really balanced.
44:55No, no.
44:56That's not true.
44:57You're going to do more, right?
44:59Yes, I am.
45:00Are you still going to do more?
45:01Of course, I'm going to do more.
45:03I'm going to do more.
45:05I can't hear you saying that I'm happy.
45:09Are you happy, Tama-chan?
45:10I'm happy.
45:12I'm happy.
45:13I can't come to places like this.
45:15That's true.
45:16I can't come to places like this.
45:17Only people who know this place can come here.
45:20That's right.
45:21People who have been here before can't come here.
45:24That's right.
45:25Only people who have been here before can come here.
45:26That's definitely true.
45:27We're on our own now.
45:31The owner is a fan of Inoki-san.
45:33So, Inoki-san's fans come here.
45:36I see.
45:39Do they really get autographs?
45:41That's right.
45:42This is a 50-piece limited edition.
45:44It's a 50-year anniversary.
45:46I can't believe it.
45:48I really like it.
45:50It's been 100 years since it was renovated.
45:52When I go to the bathroom, there's a gap.
45:54That's right.
45:55It's been 100 years.
45:58That's right.
46:00It'll be bad if an earthquake comes.
46:03I've been doing the same thing.
46:04It's totally fine.
46:05I've reinforced it.
46:08I've reinforced it.
46:10If an earthquake comes, it'll be gone.
46:15That's it.
46:16Let's go.
46:19Oh, yes.
46:21Excuse me.
46:23Please go inside.
46:29Thank you, manager.
46:31Excuse me.
46:35It was a deep store, wasn't it?
46:37It was pretty deep.
46:39I can't ask him to show me around here.
46:43I didn't expect to go in here.
46:45I know.
46:51Excuse me.
46:52Oh, yes.
46:56Excuse me.
46:57I'd like to take a picture here.
47:02It's better to take a picture.
47:03It's better to take a picture.
47:06Okay, let's go.
47:07Let's go.
47:09Smile.
47:12Why are you taking my cell phone?
47:14I'm hungry.
47:16I'll take a picture.
47:17Hold it tight.
47:18Here we go.
47:22Oh, it's a video.
47:23It's a video?
47:26Thank you for the traditional Hamada Gumi.
47:30I'm sorry.
47:31Okay.
47:32You're annoying.
47:34Let's go next time.
47:35Let's go next time.
47:36Let's go.
47:37No.
47:38Go away.
47:39What do you mean, go away?
47:40I'm going.
47:41Go away.
47:42I'm sorry.
47:47Well, I know that place.
47:49So, when I come to Osaka,
47:51it's quite difficult to take someone with me.
47:55Maybe the second one.
47:57Oh, I see.
47:58The first one.
47:59Just a little.
48:00Just a little.
48:01It might be good to have a drink.
48:06Why is it called Buriko?
48:10Buriko?
48:12I don't know this place.
48:14I don't know this place.
48:16It was like this.
48:18People might think that I'm Hama-chan.
48:21Really?
48:24Well, if they say so.
48:34It's Bansenka.
48:36It's amazing.
48:38Amazing.
48:39Is this going to be on TV?
48:45Aren't you doing something?
48:48Like a live broadcast?
48:50Let's get in there and promote it.
48:54Are you sure?
49:01Which way?
49:02I'm coming.
49:09You?