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00:00The verdict was read.
00:23What was your initial reaction?
00:27Well, my heart dropped.
00:32Karen Weber of the Wheelhouse Brothers was found guilty.
00:36This is very frightening, but I accept full responsibility for everything that went on
00:41with my car accident.
00:43I feel like I had like a couple of beers or something like that.
00:45Yes, that's all I know.
00:46And then what you will not do is tell me what I can't do.
00:49Karen, shut up.
00:50No, please.
00:51No.
00:52We have about a month to go until you are sentenced.
00:56How are you coping at this time?
00:59Do you know who I am?
01:01I don't.
01:02This is never going to change.
01:03Never going to change.
01:05They call me the grandma doll.
01:07The grandma doll.
01:09I don't know what the **** that's about.
01:11And they call me the staff.
01:16They don't care about me right now.
01:19I care about my children.
01:22I care about my family.
01:24They are so hurt.
01:32I should have probably taken a cab.
01:35You probably should have taken a cab, yes.
01:39Do you think that you may have an issue with alcohol?
01:42No, I'm not an alcoholic.
01:45Let's be clear.
01:46Let me help you up.
01:48No, I did not.
01:51Oh, God.
01:52I'm lit.
01:53Yes, you are lit.
01:55I know a lot of young children look up to me.
01:57Call me Auntie Karen.
01:59Granda.
02:01Do as I say, not as I do.
02:17I'm so excited.
02:28Is Karen here?
02:31I don't know.
02:32Did you see her name on the door?
02:33So she doesn't know what to do.
02:35I did not.
02:36I did not.
02:37I did not.
02:38I did not.
02:39I did not.
02:40I did not.
02:41I did not.
02:42I did not.
02:43I did not.
02:44I did not.
02:45I did not.
02:46So she doesn't have a dressing room?
02:47I don't think so.
02:52Let's pull that strap up.
03:00Hey.
03:01Hey.
03:02What's going on with Karen?
03:03Is she not coming?
03:05I don't know.
03:06Last time I actually talked to her was New Year's Eve.
03:08Call her.
03:09See if she's coming.
03:11Is she coming?
03:16Oh my gosh.
03:17Girl, she is not coming.
03:19Your call has been forwarded to voicemail.
03:21The person you're trying to reach is not available.
03:23I hope she is here.
03:25Well, she has to be.
03:26I mean, you need some answers.
03:28Yeah, but I think because we went throughout the season
03:30with her sort of neglecting or denying so much,
03:34and then that footage comes out, it's like, really,
03:36you lied to all of our faces for three months?
03:40I just can't believe the footage.
03:42I feel some typeway because I feel like this past year,
03:46I really rode for her.
03:48And so if nothing else, at least for the people
03:50who soldiered for you and supported you.
03:53Answer the phone.
03:54Answer the phone.
03:55Because now this is like a slap in the face.
03:58Wow.
04:04Hi.
04:10Boop, boop, boop.
04:12Just me and Andy once again.
04:14Wow.
04:15You look beautiful.
04:16Hi.
04:18How you doing?
04:19I'm good.
04:20How are you feeling about today?
04:21I feel good.
04:22Yeah?
04:23I mean, ish.
04:24OK.
04:25You know, the lack of Karen.
04:26Yes, OK.
04:27Yes.
04:28My bunions hurt.
04:29Hi, Ashley.
04:30Hi.
04:31Wow.
04:32Hi, Boobie.
04:33You look beautiful.
04:34I love.
04:351, 2, 3.
04:361, 2, 3.
04:37Oh, s***.
04:38Hey, guys.
04:39Hey.
04:40I'm going to take a step up.
04:41Yep.
04:42Hi, Andy.
04:43How are you?
04:44Hey.
04:45Hello.
04:46Hello.
04:47Hello.
04:48Hi, Andy.
04:49Oh, it's Wendell.
04:50Hey, Wendell.
04:51Y'all are twinning.
04:52Wendy, are you twins?
04:53Y'all are twinning.
04:54Hi.
04:55OK.
04:56Oh, oh, oh.
04:57Oh, my gosh.
04:58That's about right.
04:59OK.
05:00All right.
05:01Hi.
05:02I love your hair.
05:03Oh, my gosh.
05:04Look at Giselle's nails.
05:05Yeah.
05:07You can never talk about me again and my nails.
05:08Like, what is this?
05:09What are we doing in 2025?
05:10What the hell is this?
05:11I mean, it's a new year, Wendy.
05:12It is a new year.
05:13It's a new year.
05:14You out here just acting.
05:15Titty's out.
05:16Gee.
05:17Who are we missing?
05:18Karen.
05:19Oh.
05:20Just quiet in the house, please.
05:21We are rolling recording.
05:22We're bumping in.
05:23Breathe.
05:24Hey, everybody.
05:25Welcome to the Real Housewives of Potomac season nine reunion.
05:32I'm Andy Cohen in Panama with the beautiful Real Housewives of Potomac.
05:38Well, it is safe to say that a lot has changed since you all were in production, for many
05:44of you.
05:45And we're going to get into all of that.
05:47But obviously, there is an elephant in the room that we need to address first, and it's
05:51about who isn't in the room.
05:54Karen, the grand dame, is not with us tonight.
06:02Has anyone spoken to Karen?
06:04Not since Christmas.
06:05No.
06:06Not since Christmas.
06:07Okay.
06:08Are you aware why she's not here today?
06:09No.
06:10Not really.
06:11No.
06:12No.
06:13It's okay.
06:14Detail.
06:15Yeah.
06:16Okay.
06:17Well, three weeks ago, as you know, Karen was found guilty on seven out of eight charges
06:19related to the single car DUI crash that happened in March of 2024.
06:26Karen is not here today because she has checked herself into a private recovery center.
06:32Oh, good.
06:33That's good.
06:34What do you all think about this?
06:35That's great.
06:36That's great.
06:37Perfect.
06:38What's your reaction to that?
06:39I think that's fantastic.
06:40As much as we feel she lives in a land of delusion, and sometimes we think that's funny
06:46and cute, in this particular case, it's not.
06:50I wish she would have done it before her case because that would have probably helped her.
06:53Yes.
06:54I agree.
06:55But I'm happy she's here now.
06:56But I do find it interesting that she's doing it before her sentencing.
07:01And I'm wondering, is she doing it because she feels like she needs help, or is she doing
07:05it because she feels like it will lighten the blow of the sentence?
07:08Well, let's give her grace.
07:09We're all giving her grace.
07:10We're all giving her grace.
07:11I think it's okay to ask a question.
07:12No, we're all giving her grace.
07:13I'm just happy that she's in recovery and taking care of herself.
07:18Yeah, I get that.
07:19Let's just acknowledge that.
07:20I get that, but I feel like sometimes what you're trying to say is by us questioning
07:24her as her friends, you're trying to lessen what we're saying, and that's not fair.
07:28This doesn't have to be cookie cutter all the time.
07:31Part of friendship is also being honest.
07:34We should be supportive and positive.
07:36Do I also feel that she's going to rehab right now because she's trying to lessen her sentence?
07:40Absolutely.
07:41And anybody would.
07:42Right.
07:43I was going to say.
07:44And I was going to say, I can't knock the hustle.
07:45I would too.
07:46I would too.
07:47I had a feeling that the grand dame would not be present today.
07:51Oh my God.
07:52So I made sure that she's here in white, okay?
07:57She's right here.
07:59How would the grand dame feel about second position?
08:01I was about to say, you might bump her over.
08:03Do you want to put her here?
08:04Let's put her here.
08:05No, no.
08:06It's my picture.
08:07It's my picture.
08:08It's my picture.
08:09Okay.
08:10Yes.
08:11All right.
08:12All right.
08:13Well, you know, she's not only here in photographic sense.
08:16She sent a message.
08:17Oh.
08:18A message.
08:19Now, I have not seen this.
08:20Okay.
08:21Let's take a look.
08:22Oh, wow.
08:23Okay.
08:24Okay, ladies.
08:26As you notice, I'm not there.
08:28I am going away to a treatment center to address taking antidepressants and drinking.
08:35I want to get to the bottom of it.
08:39But I would be remiss if I didn't take this time to thank those who truly touched my heart
08:47during this whole process.
08:49And the first person I want to thank in the girl group is Giselle.
08:54And I think what's really helped me, Giselle, is what the note you put in my flowers.
09:00One step at a time.
09:01Oh, she's going to make me cry.
09:03You make me very proud of our friendship outside of this show.
09:06You're the real deal.
09:08I want to thank my girl, Kay.
09:11Kay, you came through and you always said that Karen's going to handle this.
09:16I'm handling it, Kay.
09:18Jazzy, you sent me special notes that really touched my heart.
09:23And I know that Candace is not with us anymore on the show, but Candace reached out to me
09:27and has been a soldier in support and love.
09:31But wait a minute.
09:32There's a special person on my list.
09:36Andy Cohen.
09:38Your notes meant the world to me.
09:40They were always on time.
09:42You and Giselle can fight over who calls me the ground on first.
09:46But I plan to be coming back as Karen Huger only because Karen is enough.
09:51And ladies, I'm sure you're going to do me proud and look fabulous at the reunion, but
09:56nobody sit in my seat, okay?
10:00Love you.
10:01Mwah.
10:02Wow.
10:03Wow.
10:04That's so sweet.
10:05Oh my gosh.
10:07That made you cry.
10:08Yeah.
10:09Okay.
10:10We're going to move on.
10:11You know I'm not a good crier.
10:12Well, no.
10:13We're not going to move on.
10:14Well, hold on.
10:15Hold on.
10:16Okay.
10:17Let me get it together.
10:18Hold on.
10:19I don't see you emotional.
10:21No.
10:22No.
10:23I just feel like, you know, that is my friend.
10:24I have heard too many things to count of Karen doing kind of reckless things.
10:29My prayer has always been like, you know, she needs to get some help.
10:34And not like in a shady way and not to tear her down as a person.
10:38She's a beautiful person.
10:39So I just feel like this makes me feel like, okay, she really realizes like this is it.
10:45So okay.
10:46I'm done.
10:47Wendy, you seemed unmoved by that video.
10:50Did I?
10:51Yeah.
10:52I think it's interesting that she didn't thank Wendy.
10:56They're so close.
10:57Is that why you, is that?
10:58Did you reach out?
10:59I think it would be selfish for me to frame it in that way.
11:01This isn't about me.
11:02This is about her.
11:03Okay.
11:04I have reached out to her.
11:05I supported her throughout the season.
11:08It seems like you do feel a little something about.
11:12I feel something and I'm not trying to conflate the two because I also feel something about
11:17what she told Stacey about me that I saw play out through the season.
11:21Yes.
11:22Okay.
11:23So I feel like having seen that coupled with this, it all adds up.
11:27Okay.
11:28That's not my friend.
11:29Oh, wow.
11:30Wow.
11:31Wendy, you seemed unmoved by that.
11:42I feel something and I'm not trying to conflate the two because I also feel something about
11:51what she told Stacey about me that I saw play out through the season.
11:55Yes.
11:56Okay.
11:57So I feel like having seen that coupled with this, it all adds up.
12:01Yes.
12:02Okay.
12:03That's not my friend.
12:04Oh, wow.
12:05Wow.
12:06But you knew that, Wendy.
12:07You've been knowing that.
12:08But I don't know why because you've been supporting her.
12:09Exactly.
12:10Like you've been riding for her.
12:11You've been checking me for her.
12:12I have checked everybody for her.
12:14Right.
12:15Karen used to call us drunk all the time.
12:16All right, Karen is not in the car to defend herself.
12:21My primary focus is Karen.
12:23Love to share this moment with my group of girlfriends.
12:26My group.
12:27I would say Karen.
12:28I mean, you took her to the White House.
12:29Yes.
12:30Oh, my God.
12:31Thank you so much for coming.
12:32Absolutely.
12:33Wendy, why have you never wanted to acknowledge that she had issues with you?
12:38It's not that I never wanted to acknowledge it, it's I take people for what they show
12:43me.
12:44Okay.
12:45And she has not shown me that.
12:46I told you, Wendy.
12:47I've said it here at this couch.
12:48I didn't touch your ass.
12:49I said it, Wendy, in Monique's lake house.
12:52Karen has had some things to say about Wendy.
12:54Really?
12:55I'd like to get to know more about her.
12:57You think she'll get past I'm three babies and a freelance correspondent for CNN?
13:01Karen from day one was trying to get you kicked off this show.
13:04I also want to say that last year, when my mother was being dragged through the mud,
13:10Karen was one of the only people who stuck up for my mother.
13:13Okay.
13:14That's fair.
13:15One thing that I thought was really interesting about that video was what she said at the
13:20end when she said, I'm going to come back as Karen and not the Grandin.
13:24Yes.
13:25That is actually, to me, one of the two headlines of that video because she is taking the facade
13:32away.
13:33Yes.
13:34You know what I'm talking about, Karen?
13:35I say she is amazing off camera.
13:38Yes.
13:39Yes.
13:40When the Grandin thing is gone, Karen is amazing.
13:42One thousand percent.
13:43I would like to point out for the record, because my eyes almost fell out of my face
13:48when my name came up in that footage, just would like to point out, I did not coin the
13:54term Grandin.
13:56The lady to my left did.
13:57That was me.
13:59Who and what Karen is to this world is very Grand-ish.
14:04So yes, I bestowed upon her the title of Grandin.
14:09Andy said, get me out of this.
14:10Okay.
14:11Yeah.
14:12Yeah.
14:13The body cam footage from the night of the accident found its way online.
14:16It's really tough to watch, I think you would all agree.
14:20There were thousands of comments.
14:21Ray Vontay on Twitter, love Karen since season one, ride for her heart, very disappointed
14:27in her behavior.
14:28And after watching these videos, zero accountability, completely victimized herself.
14:33She could have killed someone.
14:34I hope she gets the help she needs.
14:36Alan from L.A. lost his best friend to a drunk driver and has no sympathy for drunk drivers
14:43and the reckless decisions they make.
14:45Hope she goes to jail for this so she understands the real consequences of her actions.
14:52Lot of anger, concern, and feelings of betrayal from the viewers.
14:56Raise your hand if those feelings resonate with you.
15:00To a degree.
15:01Yeah, of course.
15:02Yeah.
15:03Well, I do.
15:04I've been trying to tell everybody that she needed help.
15:06What did you know?
15:07Because I've seen her.
15:08We've gone out.
15:09We went drinking.
15:10She's gotten behind our car.
15:11I brought it up in Lake Norman.
15:12She wasn't taking any accountability.
15:13I think it's also more than that, too, though.
15:14Maybe she needed to see herself in that light in order to identify that she needed help.
15:20Well, there's much more to discuss on the Karen front and questions that need answers,
15:25and I promise we'll get into all of that a little bit later.
15:29But first, Dr. Wendy and her brand new decade embarked on a new career path and got herself
15:35a new bestie by the name of Giselle.
15:38Oh, geez.
15:39But in the end, all the tension between Wendy and Karen slithered its way back into focus.
15:45Watch.
15:46Miss, Miss Bestie.
15:47It's my birthday!
15:48Yes, Wendy girl!
15:49What the hell is going on?
15:50Our relationship, oh God, has been in a bucket.
15:59I would like for us to get to a better place.
16:02Me too.
16:03When you're angry, it's like I'm coming at you very condescending.
16:05I receive that.
16:06You sometimes try to alienate people.
16:10If I do have an issue with you moving forward, I will tell you what it is.
16:14I recently resigned from my position at my university.
16:22Are you crazy?
16:24Just got off the phone.
16:25Wait, what are you talking about?
16:26With the White House.
16:27And you're going to film an episode of The Dr. Wendy Show.
16:30I would love to share this moment with my group of girlfriends.
16:34Like who?
16:35I would say Karen.
16:36Oh, my God.
16:37Thank you so much for coming.
16:38Absolutely.
16:39Karen made it very clear.
16:41Wendy was self-absorbed.
16:42What?
16:44She wasn't a girl's girl, and she would never be my friend.
16:46I have never said that to you.
16:49I have rode for you.
16:50I know that.
16:51So I'm not saying that I 100% believe you, but something in the milk ain't clean.
16:58All right.
17:00We saw a new side of you this year, lighter, funnier.
17:03What do you attribute that to?
17:05I don't know.
17:06I think 40's so monumental.
17:08Like I want to start afresh anew, and I think I also left my position.
17:10Yeah.
17:11That was like a weight lifted off of me.
17:14I was tired of having to conform to antiquated ideas of what a professor should be.
17:18Yes.
17:19But also, I would have to assume that it was a relief to you, and to you too, that the
17:25two of you were able to work through your animosity.
17:29It was an added bonus, absolutely.
17:31We listened to each other, which I think we've never done.
17:35We went through the laundry list.
17:37I remember there was a time that we were talking, and Giselle said, and there's more?
17:40And I said, yes.
17:41It was a long conversation.
17:42It was like two hours.
17:43Yeah.
17:44I think it's great that you two were open enough to do that work with each other.
17:48Yeah.
17:49And Wendy's such a, you know, she's a smart woman, as we all know, and she can express
17:52herself clearly, majorly, articulate, articulately, if that's even a word.
17:58No.
17:59And it's not.
18:00No.
18:01Oh, thank you.
18:02She's funny.
18:03That's all I'm going to give her today.
18:04Don't ask for nothing else.
18:07How is business going with Happy Eddie?
18:09Oh, it's booming.
18:10Really?
18:11Oh my God.
18:12Yeah.
18:13His industry is like, he's doing so well.
18:14Have any of you partaken in Happy Eddie's Devil's Lettuce?
18:18I have.
18:19Stacy, I hear you were enjoying the gummies at Wendy's party.
18:23I salute your husband's business, and I think you will be so successful, more than you can
18:29imagine.
18:30Great products.
18:31Well, Stacy, aren't you trying to start your own, Happy Eddie?
18:34Are you?
18:35Huh?
18:36Stacy Stacy?
18:37Yeah.
18:38No.
18:39Oh.
18:40You don't know what I'm talking about?
18:42When she comes out with Happy Stacy next season, don't be surprised.
18:50Coming up next.
18:51Megan from Houston said, Jassie, it appears to me that you were the side chick who made
18:56the dude leave his family.
18:58Damn.
18:59Megan.
19:07Aren't you trying to start your own, Happy Eddie?
19:09No.
19:11You didn't have a meeting with someone, and you told him that you're a celebrity?
19:16Absolutely not.
19:17Because he asked you, why on earth do I need to work with you?
19:20And you were like, because I'm a celebrity.
19:22Absolutely not.
19:23When she comes out with Happy Stacy next season, don't be surprised.
19:27Oh, no.
19:28Stacy, I hope you don't do that without telling me.
19:32I love Happy Eddie, and you know that.
19:35I don't know what she's talking about.
19:37Well, is that what you did with Karen and the candles?
19:40Oh.
19:41Who, me?
19:42Oh, no.
19:43That's what Karen did to you.
19:44That's what Karen did to me.
19:45Right, right.
19:46Karen copied my idea.
19:47There is no real comparison between what Wendy's doing and I am doing with the candle.
19:51I respect Wendy choosing the one wick.
19:53I got the three wick.
19:54Erin from Salt Lake City said, it was great seeing you prioritize life and take the leap
19:59to leave your professor job.
20:01Do you really think it's fair to stipulate that your children don't get an inheritance
20:05unless they get a master's degree?
20:07Isn't that your whole cross to bear with your own mother?
20:10May you guys do whatever your heart desires.
20:14My only requirement is a master's degree.
20:18And if you don't get your master's degree, please understand it is written in your trust
20:22fund, and you will not get your money.
20:25So let me say this.
20:26We have a trust for our children.
20:28There's different stipulations that allow you to get a bonus, whether they get a master's
20:32degree or not.
20:33If they get a master's degree, they get X amount of extra dollars.
20:37Wow.
20:38If they learn how to speak Igbo, which is our native tongue, they get X amount of dollars.
20:42Wow.
20:43I like that a lot too.
20:44I do too.
20:45If my daughter joins my sorority, she gets X amount of dollars.
20:50I'm going through that now.
20:51So it's incentivized.
20:52That's a really good idea.
20:53I like that.
20:54I want to incentivize my kid to go to camp.
20:56Wendy, that's good.
20:58That's good.
20:59That's really good.
21:00Wendy, that was really cool.
21:02Seeing you at the White House doing your big interview.
21:06Was that surreal to watch that back after the way everything played out?
21:10It's absolutely surreal, especially after seeing the results of the 2024 election.
21:15Yeah.
21:16I'm so glad I was sharing that with my kids, because who the hell knows where we're going
21:19to be four years from now.
21:20We won't be.
21:21Yeah.
21:22You also invited Karen to the White House just days before you found out she had been
21:26talking negatively about you.
21:29Do you have any regrets about inviting Karen to the White House?
21:32Yes.
21:33I wish I didn't.
21:34Really?
21:35Yeah, I do regret it, if I'm being honest.
21:37Stacey revealed that Karen said that you are self-involved and not a girl's girl.
21:42Yeah.
21:43What was your reaction when you heard it?
21:45You seemed to believe it, even though you said something about it felt off.
21:49Yeah, because what reason does Stacey have to lie?
21:52That will cause more friction for her in the group.
21:55So yeah, I believed what Stacey said.
21:57The only thing I would say about that, though, Stacey, is that I didn't think it was kind
22:00that you actually waited until you and Karen's relationship was kind of going south to bring
22:04that to Wendy.
22:05So I didn't think that was nice.
22:06Well, it was a little bit more than, like, not getting along.
22:09I stood by Karen when Nia and Jacqueline were making a mockery of her.
22:15Why does everybody have a heart on for Karen?
22:17No.
22:18No, we don't.
22:19She's hers.
22:20And months later, she didn't stand by me.
22:23I don't even think that Karen is participating in the show.
22:28And so I chose at that time to tell the truth.
22:32And funny enough, when Stacey was joining the group, I haven't told you this,
22:36Karen told me, be careful of the woman that's coming into the group because she's really smart
22:43and she's really educated.
22:45Is she?
22:49Oh.
22:50Why would she say that?
22:51I don't know.
22:52Is Stacey smart and educated?
22:55You don't think Stacey seems educated?
22:57I do have a degree, and I'm very smart and educated and compassionate and a wonderful person.
23:03Yes.
23:04And I have no idea why Karen wouldn't want two like-minded, wonderful, smart, educated people to be together.
23:12I don't think it had anything to do with that.
23:13I don't think it had anything to do with that.
23:14Let me say this.
23:15You did point out that you feel that Karen's MO is that she takes the new girl
23:21Absolutely.
23:22and she tells them what she wants them to know
23:25Yes.
23:26about everybody.
23:27She grooms.
23:28Anytime there's a new person to come into the group,
23:30Karen secretly takes this person out and tries to skew them in a way that's great for Karen.
23:37One tidbit of advice, though, because you are new to the community.
23:41In Potomac, the women especially, it's respect that gets you into the circle.
23:47She grooms them.
23:48Okay, so you guys know what I'm saying is true.
23:50So, Giselle, you know that this meeting took place at Tally Ho.
23:53Absolutely.
23:54Did she take you to Tally Ho?
23:56I've never been to the Tally Ho.
23:57But she did befriend Kay.
23:59But she did befriend you.
24:01She did befriend me, guys.
24:03Okay, did she warn you about us?
24:05No, she did not warn me about anything.
24:07But here's the thing.
24:08Also, for me, like I said, I'm always going to have a soft spot for Karen
24:11because Karen's also this very same person that when I went through what I went through last season,
24:16she made it her business to personally take care of me.
24:19I get it.
24:20You know what I mean?
24:21So I see her differently.
24:22Can I say something, though, Kay?
24:23My Kay, I say this with love, my Kay.
24:25I know how you see it.
24:27But how Karen sees it, she likes the mother-goose relationships.
24:33If she feels like she can mother you, she loves you.
24:37When you show her that not necessarily you don't need her,
24:40but you can exist in this group without her, she turns on you.
24:44That's very true.
24:45With all the talk about being self-absorbed, not a girl's girl, et cetera,
24:49does anyone here think this is a valid criticism of Wendy?
24:53Yes, she's self-absorbed.
24:54Yes, Wendy is definitely self-absorbed in a good way.
24:57Listen, we all are.
24:58Aren't we all?
24:59To a certain degree.
25:00And Wendy is a lot to digest.
25:03Let me tell you something.
25:04It takes a strong woman to be friends with me because I'm very sure of myself.
25:10I'll walk into a room like God sent me there because God did.
25:13Does that make sense?
25:14All right.
25:15Well, we're going to leave it there.
25:16And let me be the last person to wish you happy birthday.
25:19We are going to be right back after this.
25:22Not another happy birthday for Wendy.
25:24Sheesh.
25:25We've had other birthdays since then, Andy.
25:27It's been my birthday since I had a happy birthday.
25:29Did you turn 40?
25:30I did.
25:31I heard there was some drama with your birthday, girl.
25:32There was.
25:33We're going to bring it up.
25:34Are we?
25:35Oh, yes, we are.
25:38Coming up next, flyers.
25:40Wait, did you not invite them?
25:42Did you not invite them to come?
25:54Okay, Giselle, I know you're mad at me, but honey, you are snatched.
25:57She ain't talking to you.
25:58She ain't talking to you.
25:59She ain't talking to you.
26:00It's okay.
26:02She said thank you.
26:03Hello, ladies.
26:04Hi.
26:05Hello.
26:06How are you guys?
26:07Good to see you.
26:08Hi.
26:09You look gorgeous.
26:10So nice to meet you.
26:11You look so pretty.
26:12I'll look you up when I can.
26:14You look stunning.
26:15You look so pretty.
26:16Hey, beautiful.
26:17Wow.
26:18Stacy.
26:19You look amazing.
26:20My girl.
26:21Karen's not here.
26:22And stand by.
26:23Okay.
26:24We're up in five, four, three.
26:26We are back with the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion, and Jazzy has entered the scene.
26:31Hey there.
26:32Hi, Andy.
26:33How are you?
26:34What a pleasure to meet you.
26:35You too.
26:36Congratulations on your engagement.
26:38Do you have a date set for the wedding?
26:40I do.
26:41What season is it?
26:42It is definitely a summer wedding.
26:43I'm actually told that you have the invite with you.
26:47Should I bring it out now?
26:48Yes.
26:49Right there.
26:50Now's the time.
26:51Oh, my gosh.
26:52That's beautiful.
26:53Go ahead and pass it down.
26:54You guys will get your own invite as well.
26:55So pretty.
26:56Wow.
26:57This is amazing.
26:58Wow.
26:59And it's a great mirror.
27:00It's a great mirror.
27:01It is.
27:02I like that.
27:03I know you like it.
27:04Are all the women invited?
27:05Of course.
27:07Yes.
27:08Where's Darius playing these days?
27:09Darius is an NFL player for the Dallas Cowboys.
27:10So we live in between both, but we're back in Maryland
27:11for the offseason.
27:12You had a little bit of turbulence with the group
27:13when the ladies started questioning the timeline
27:14of your relationship.
27:15Yeah.
27:16Megan from Houston said,
27:17Jassie, it appears to me that you were the side chick
27:18who made the dude leave his family.
27:19Oh, geez.
27:20Not me.
27:21Megan.
27:22Mia, you were a side chick.
27:23I'm not a side chick.
27:24I'm a side chick.
27:25I'm a side chick.
27:26I'm a side chick.
27:27I'm a side chick.
27:28I'm a side chick.
27:29I'm a side chick.
27:30I'm a side chick.
27:31I'm a side chick.
27:32I'm a side chick.
27:34Megan.
27:35Mia, you were a side chick.
27:36What's your professional side chick take?
27:38Damn.
27:39Megan.
27:40All right, coming in hot.
27:41Who is Megan?
27:42You guys have only been together, what, a couple years?
27:44He's a great father to two boys that were both
27:48already created before me.
27:50How old are the children?
27:52The children are three and turned one a month ago.
27:57Let's be clear.
27:58I was never a side chick.
27:59I am the whole production, baby.
28:01Nothing about me gives side chick.
28:02OK, with all due, you were building your friendship
28:05with him while he was with another woman.
28:08And I had no idea.
28:09He's never posted the woman on his social media.
28:11He never said to you, I have a serious girlfriend?
28:13Oh, I just had a child.
28:15Well, I know that even she also said that they were not
28:18together when she was pregnant.
28:20She said that.
28:21So it was unbeknownst to me.
28:23If I'm going to be a side chick, I'm going to get me
28:25an Andy Cohen.
28:26I'll be your side chick, Andy.
28:27But, you know, and it's so frustrating because Monday
28:30through Sunday, every day of the week,
28:32it never gave side chick.
28:33Well, Jazzy, this season you coined a new name
28:36for the GNA duo, Gangstas in Alcohol,
28:40which brings us to our next topic.
28:42As the GNA brand moved from athleisure
28:45to health and wellness, Giselle and Ashley,
28:48you were also in a state of transition.
28:51Let's take a look.
28:52We're inviting you all to an event.
28:54It's called GNA Fusion.
28:55GNA, Giselle and Ashley, was all about athleisure, fun,
28:59sexy little clothes.
29:00But we're moving in a different direction,
29:03towards health and wellness.
29:05And as my father passed from a brain tumor,
29:09I felt a need to make it a little bit more meaningful.
29:13I told you I was being given an award, right?
29:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:16But I won't miss your event.
29:17There are two events scheduled at the same time.
29:20That's not what friends do to each other.
29:22This is a real event.
29:23We're raising real money.
29:24What is she being honored for, running into a tree?
29:26We are just creating our plan to make it to your event.
29:30If you guys aren't here by 8.
29:32No, ladies, no.
29:34Who are you?
29:36I'm Namsa.
29:37OK, nice to meet you, Namsa.
29:38To us and those dimples on the side of your face.
29:41How are you?
29:42Hello.
29:43Josh.
29:44Nice to meet you, Josh.
29:45Very nice to meet you.
29:46I feel like I got to test drive some cars.
29:48Good to see you.
29:49Good to see you again.
29:50I like him a lot.
29:51I haven't liked anyone this much since Michael.
29:53You could do better than Jack Harlow now.
29:56Oh!
29:58Yo, that beard grows in better than me.
30:01I am ready to fully proceed with my divorce.
30:04Hopefully, I will be officially done with the process
30:08by next week.
30:09Woo!
30:10Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:11We're cheersing to it.
30:13We're cheersing to it.
30:15All right, Ashley.
30:17Yes, Andy.
30:18What question am I going to ask you right now?
30:21Is it about Josh?
30:22No.
30:23It's the same question I ask you every year.
30:27When is the divorce?
30:28Do you have a date?
30:29I can file in February.
30:30OK.
30:31I want to start, of course, Ashley, with your non-divorce.
30:35See, it's not even in my frontal.
30:37It's like in the rear view so much.
30:38But it's still in the hands of the state of Virginia.
30:41OK.
30:42No, but you filed.
30:43I filed.
30:44So I've signed everything.
30:45Michael signed everything.
30:46We have nothing else to do with the situation.
30:47OK.
30:48Do you get child support and alimony?
30:50I do get child support.
30:51I do get child support.
30:52I waived the right to alimony.
30:53You did?
30:54When I signed that prenup.
30:55And you're the opposite, right, Stacey?
30:57That's correct.
30:58You get alimony but no child support.
31:00OK.
31:01Where are you with your divorce?
31:02Oh, right.
31:03We're in the final stages.
31:04And again, I'm waiting for the judge to sign off.
31:06We've already agreed.
31:07Are you getting divorced?
31:08Girl.
31:09No lies.
31:18Where are you with your divorce?
31:19Right.
31:20We're in the final stages.
31:21Girl.
31:22And again, I'm waiting for the judge to sign off.
31:23We've already agreed.
31:24Are you getting divorced?
31:25No lies.
31:26Are you getting divorced?
31:27Yes, I am getting a divorce.
31:28OK.
31:29So you and Gordon are just co-parenting right now.
31:311,000%.
31:32OK.
31:33Yes.
31:34OK.
31:35Back to Ashley.
31:36Yeah, back to you.
31:37Yeah, we love the marriage.
31:38Patricia from Austin, Texas said, does GNA even sell clothes?
31:41Your website's just photos of Giselle and Ashley.
31:44So, I mean, the timing was kind of off for us selling apparel.
31:49With me going through my situation, I didn't know the state of my finances.
31:52I was like, hey, I'm not really willing to invest as much money in a new business.
31:55Yeah.
31:56So we pivoted to more community outreach, health and wellness.
31:58Yeah, community outreach.
31:59Yeah.
32:00So it's a nonprofit.
32:01No, it's a fashion line.
32:02We're a liaison.
32:03No, they got rid of the fashion.
32:04We're a liaison between the community and the charity.
32:06OK.
32:07OK.
32:08What's going to happen?
32:09What's next?
32:10What's that phase three?
32:11We'll see if you're invited.
32:12Oh, OK.
32:13Yes.
32:14Well, maybe I won't come.
32:15We'll see if you're invited.
32:16Don't.
32:17I will.
32:18OK.
32:19So it's not a money-making endeavor anymore?
32:22That's not the focus.
32:23No.
32:24No.
32:25Yeah.
32:26The focus is?
32:27Is health and wellness.
32:28Yeah, health and wellness.
32:29Helping the community.
32:30Yes.
32:31OK.
32:32Lots to discuss about the dueling events drama.
32:33Brittany from New Mexico said, if you say yes to one event and are later invited to another,
32:38shouldn't you prioritize the first event you RSVP to?
32:43Mm-hmm.
32:44Anybody want to answer?
32:45I'm sorry.
32:46We wanted to land at the GNA so we can stay there because we wanted to spend more time
32:49with you guys.
32:50The event was so fun.
32:51The event ended at 9.
32:52Y'all got there at 8.03.
32:53That's less than an hour that you wouldn't even be there.
32:55I respect what Wendy did.
32:57They said we'd just go in a pair.
32:59Cool.
33:00Like, you know what?
33:01You guys could have given us a little bit of grace, even if that just meant quietly kicking
33:04us out.
33:05How do you do that?
33:06Quietly kicking you out?
33:07Well, you could have admittedly asked us to leave.
33:09Admittedly asked us to leave.
33:10You don't yell across the room like a gangsta.
33:12I was actually worried.
33:14Ladies, no, no.
33:15The event is almost over.
33:16Tell them to get out of here.
33:18Thank you, William.
33:19My anger was more towards Karen.
33:20I thought it was great to see you apologize soon after.
33:21It was really towards Karen because Karen knew exactly what she was doing.
33:22So, apologies for throwing you out.
33:23I did because I knew who I was mad at.
33:24It was Karen.
33:25Okay.
33:26Yeah.
33:27We don't often see that.
33:28I know.
33:29It's a new leaf, Andy.
33:30Get into it.
33:31I love it.
33:32Yes.
33:33Okay.
33:34Wow.
33:35Are you the granddaddy?
33:36Yes, I am.
33:37Are you the granddaddy?
33:38Yes, I am.
33:39Are you the granddaddy?
33:40Yes, I am.
33:41Are you the granddaddy?
33:42Yes, I am.
33:43Wow.
33:44Are you the grand-dum?
33:45I'm Giselle.
33:46Okay.
33:47I'm Giselle.
33:48Don't need a tie-toe.
33:50Jazzy, any final thoughts?
33:52You know, as difficult as it was to navigate a new group and hearing the side conversations
33:59about my personal life, I still really enjoyed this group.
34:02Since you're about to leave, can I ask because when I saw you at the Christmas party, you
34:06had mentioned that s*** flew off the handle for Mia's birthday and Wendy also alluded
34:10to it.
34:11Can we actually get some backstory?
34:12What happened with Mia's birthday in Miami?
34:15So we're going to talk about Miami.
34:17Let's talk about Miami.
34:21Let me get comfy.
34:22This is what happened.
34:24Mia sent out beautiful invitations to both Stacey and I and Stacey said, come on, let's
34:30go to Miami.
34:31Right, they support each other.
34:32So we went to Miami.
34:33Didn't all let her tell her own story, but essentially Stacey landed and didn't hear
34:36from Mia.
34:37What?
34:38And at the end of the day, we did not see Mia when we went to Miami.
34:40What?
34:41Mia, please explain.
34:43So first I want to say like I have since spoken to both of them.
34:47You didn't talk to me.
34:48I did reach out to you.
34:49I texted you two days later.
34:50You haven't spoken to me.
34:51But I have reached out to her via text because it's 2025.
34:54Right?
34:55No, you call people who show up for you actually.
34:57Okay, true.
34:58Okay, but what happened?
34:59Mind you, I had hired a POC, an event planner, someone to dedicate to make sure that you
35:06RSVP to my point of contact.
35:08Okay, sorry.
35:09I was like, is that a probation officer?
35:10Oh my God.
35:11What is a POC?
35:12And I personally did not know that the ladies were coming to town.
35:19You are a liar.
35:20I did not have.
35:21I didn't.
35:22You're a liar.
35:23No, I didn't.
35:24You're a liar.
35:25Wait, did you not invite them?
35:26You're a liar.
35:27Again.
35:28Did you not invite them to come?
35:29I did invite them.
35:30You invited them?
35:31Are you kidding me?
35:32They didn't say we're coming?
35:33I did not tell you.
35:34No, I did not know.
35:35Oh my goodness, thank you for your invitation.
35:36You didn't RSVP me, Stacey.
35:37I'm coming and you said, oh my gosh.
35:38Where's the contact?
35:39Girl, bye.
35:40Where's the touch?
35:41Stop.
35:42Three, one, three.
35:43Three, one, three.
35:44Stay with me.
35:45Let me pull it up.
35:46When I learned that they were in town, I texted them both and I said, hey ladies, where are
35:53you guys?
35:54Hey, I heard you guys checked in for dinner.
35:55They came to the restaurant.
35:56Why didn't you respond to me when I arrived?
35:57Then they left the restaurant.
35:59But Mia, you're leaving out key points.
36:01They left the restaurant because you told them to arrive by eight.
36:04No, no, no.
36:05You didn't come until 11 o'clock.
36:06I can't get up.
36:07I can't get up.
36:08That's why they left.
36:09We arrived at nine o'clock.
36:10We were, I was an hour late to my birthday.
36:11Read her message and read my response.
36:12But you guys didn't respond.
36:13Read the message.
36:14Read her message.
36:15You are, I was an hour late to my birthday.
36:24Read her message and read my response.
36:25But you guys didn't respond.
36:26Read the message.
36:27Read her message.
36:28And we can end this.
36:29You said, I'm thrilled to announce the celebration of the start of my final 40.
36:32Okay, itinerary, yacht day party.
36:35All white.
36:36Exclusive dinner at Barton G's.
36:37All black.
36:38All the details.
36:39After party.
36:40Please let me know.
36:41Can't wait to celebrate together.
36:42The response is, Mia, thank you so much for the special surprise.
36:46How fab.
36:47I'm so excited to celebrate with you, babe.
36:50I'm coming.
36:51This is a receipt I like.
36:52Yeah.
36:53You say, amazing.
36:54Amazing.
36:55Can't wait to see you, beautiful.
36:57Champagne clink, balloon.
36:59And then she says, this is now on Sunday.
37:03Happy birthday, beautiful.
37:04This is the text I did not get.
37:06No, no, no.
37:07Let him speak.
37:08Hold on.
37:09She says, happy birthday, beautiful.
37:11I am here in Miami ready to celebrate you.
37:15And hold on.
37:17It was read the following day.
37:20Ooh.
37:21You respond at 12.15 in the morning then.
37:26And you say, queen, where are you, love?
37:28She asked me at 12 o'clock in the morning.
37:31She's a horrible friend.
37:33You're a horrible friend.
37:34Let it be.
37:35Listen, I don't lie.
37:36I'm not a liar.
37:37She is.
37:38And then Stacey says, I'm so excited to celebrate you.
37:40I texted and called you with no response all day.
37:44And I still showed up to your dinner party,
37:46and no one was there an hour after it started.
37:49And you still didn't reach out to me.
37:51That was disappointing and disrespectful.
37:53Look forward to seeing you soon.
37:55So what's the problem?
37:56And I feel like, Mia.
37:57So what's the problem?
37:58So what's the problem?
37:59You never reached out to me.
38:01Why?
38:02Well, Stacey, I do apologize.
38:04I do.
38:05A little too late.
38:06She RSVP'd and said, I can't go on the yacht,
38:08but I'm coming to the dinner.
38:09I RSVP'd.
38:10I texted you when I landed.
38:11So you did, though.
38:12I knew she was coming to dinner, yes.
38:13OK.
38:14But then when I got to the dinner,
38:15they told me that she had left.
38:16You were an hour late.
38:17But did you get to the dinner an hour late?
38:19I was an hour late.
38:20You were an hour late for your dinner?
38:21Yeah.
38:22That's my birthday.
38:23OK.
38:24I flew to Miami to try to support you
38:26on behalf of not only just your birthday,
38:29but also Stacey, who has a child,
38:31who left her child at home to be there to support you.
38:34Even when I was telling you how upset she was,
38:36you didn't care.
38:37You never reached out to me.
38:38What's Jacqueline in this equation?
38:39You were talking to Jacqueline.
38:40She was there.
38:41Jacqueline was the one who told me that Stacey was upset.
38:43Jacqueline told me that Mia was more worried about Inc.
38:45OK.
38:46Oh.
38:47Do you feel bad about it?
38:48I do feel bad.
38:49I do.
38:50Like, I really, really do feel bad
38:51because I did want to have an opportunity to have
38:54a good time with these girls.
38:55Oh, that's a lie.
38:56It's inexcusable.
38:57I agree with you.
38:58You agree?
38:59Yeah.
39:00OK.
39:01If we're being honest, the elephant in the room
39:03is she invited these two women.
39:05I don't know if anybody else got an invite.
39:07Oh, hell no.
39:08Exactly.
39:09So that's a bigger point.
39:10Wait, you guys weren't invited?
39:11No.
39:12You invited us, and we showed up.
39:13So that's what I'm trying to say.
39:14And you ghosted us.
39:15That's what I'm trying to say.
39:16If you only have relationships with two girls in the group,
39:20and those two girls show up for you,
39:22you shouldn't ghost the ones who show up for you.
39:25Yeah, invoice her for your flight.
39:26I'm good.
39:27Hold on.
39:28She's crying, so I want to know why.
39:29No, it's fine.
39:30Why is she crying?
39:31Why is she crying?
39:32It's just been a rough time.
39:33That's all.
39:34That's all.
39:35I've been going through a lot, guys.
39:36I'm sorry.
39:37Well, it's OK.
39:38It'll get better.
39:39I'm sorry.
39:40Maybe this is just me today.
39:42I feel like this is what you do when your back
39:45is up against the wall.
39:46Yep.
39:47You start crying to seek sympathy.
39:49And Mia, as your friend, I'm sorry, but that stops today.
39:52I can't hold back my tears.
39:53You were wrong.
39:54It doesn't matter if you cried or not.
39:56You're wrong.
39:57So I'm emotional because of everything that's going on.
40:01I f***ed up again.
40:02So I'm taking full accountability because I know
40:05I haven't been the best friend to you guys.
40:08I know I haven't been the best person in general
40:10because I'm going through a lot.
40:13We are all going through a lot every day.
40:16We're all different, and we react to things differently,
40:18and we also have different experiences in life.
40:20I know you to be a good friend, typically.
40:22So who is this Mia?
40:23It's so weird.
40:24I know how to be a good friend.
40:26Yes.
40:27Not to us.
40:28But this season of my life, I have fallen short.
40:31It's like a three-year season.
40:32Okay.
40:33Okay.
40:34All right.
40:35Well, we're going to leave it there.
40:36I'm going to say goodbye to my side check, Jazzy.
40:39Thank you, Jazzy.
40:40Thank you so much.
40:41I appreciate it.
40:42We're going to take a break.
40:45Bye, Andy.
40:47Thank you, guys.
40:48Thank you so much.
40:49Bye, Jazzy.
40:50See you later, guys.
40:51Thank y'all.
40:52Never.
40:53I never.
40:54Oh, my God.
40:55How long does this break?
40:56Five minutes?
40:57I'm just going to get touched up real quick.
40:58You're good.
40:59Stacey.
41:00Yeah?
41:01Can I come in?
41:02It's Mia.
41:03Hi, honey.
41:04Hi, gorgeous.
41:05How are you feeling?
41:06I'm okay.
41:07I obviously love and care about both of you.
41:08I love you.
41:09I love you.
41:10I love you.
41:11I love you.
41:12I love you.
41:13I love you.
41:14I love you.
41:15I love you.
41:16I love you.
41:17I love you.
41:18I love you.
41:19I love you.
41:20I love you.
41:21I obviously love and care about both of you ladies.
41:22Why did you ghost us?
41:24I'm asking you.
41:25I didn't ghost you intentionally.
41:26I didn't.
41:27So what happened?
41:28I have not been a good friend.
41:29I don't have the capacity to be a good friend right now.
41:30I just don't.
41:31I just feel like you're crying now because we're calling you
41:32out.
41:33You didn't even say anything to us until we were back in DC.
41:47to us until we were back in DC.
41:52It just doesn't feel genuine.
41:53I'm sorry.
41:55Okay.
41:58It's okay.
41:58Okay.
41:59All right, well, we can't receive it right now.
42:01It's okay.
42:02All right, well, thanks for listening.
42:04Thanks for listening.
42:05You're welcome.
42:09I see you're going to the bathroom.
42:10We're leaving.
42:11We're leaving?
42:12We're leaving?
42:13Secure bags.
42:16I'm sorry, y'all.
42:18Oh, my God.
42:21Next week on The Real Housewives of Potomac.
42:24Reunion.
42:24She told me to f**k that bitch.
42:26Stacey, you talk like that?
42:28Destroy 313.
42:29All of this is orchestrated.
42:31But she's getting divorced.
42:32That's a lie.
42:33Exploiting your family.
42:34These stories don't add up.
42:36That's it.
42:37The truth hurts, I guess.
42:39I'm leaving.
42:40Hey, what's going on?
42:41Stacey, hey.
42:42Shut the f**k up.
42:44What's the matter?
42:47What?