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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Air Marshal (R) Aamir Masood (Defence Analyst)
- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
Marka-e-Haq Pakistan's Historical Victory | Youm-e-Tashakur | Aniqa Nisar's Report
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- Aniqa Nisar
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- Air Marshal (R) Aamir Masood (Defence Analyst)
- Rana Sanaullah Khan PMLN
Marka-e-Haq Pakistan's Historical Victory | Youm-e-Tashakur | Aniqa Nisar's Report
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Peace be upon you, you are
00:11watching the program, Aitaraaz Hai.
00:12Viewers, remember that even today, India is trying in some way that the victory of Pakistan,
00:20the victory of Pakistan, Pakistan has dropped its six jets, has killed them, someone should
00:24change it.
00:25And in this situation, he is doing what he has always done best, that is, to lie.
00:31In this whole fight, we have seen two or three things very evidently.
00:35One, that with great transparency from Pakistan, all the facts were being told.
00:41Second, that Pakistan did not hide its losses and did not overplay the victories.
00:48Third, that on the part of India, the flags of victory, before the victory, and in fact,
00:55after the defeat, the song of going deep was being sung again and again.
01:00The song was false, it was based on deception.
01:03Similarly, even today, India is trying with its wounds that in some way, on the international
01:10level, some or the other, it can be rectified.
01:14Before that, India, which was going to go to the IMF, there too, in a very bad way,
01:19it lost and could not stop the loan of the IMF from Pakistan.
01:23After that, it is trying to go to FATF and it is trying to put Pakistan back in the grey
01:29list.
01:30But even this is not visible.
01:33On the contrary, this statement has come from the World Bank, that the Indus water treaty
01:39is a bilateral matter.
01:41It cannot be resolved unilaterally.
01:44On the one hand, this.
01:46On the other hand, Pakistan is celebrating Yom Tashakur today instead of chest-thumping.
01:52Today, Yom Tashakur was celebrated and a big gathering was held on the Pakistan Monument
01:58in this regard.
01:59Not because Pakistan should celebrate, chest-thump, or somehow exalt themselves.
02:05But because we should be able to bow our heads, be thankful to Allah, ask Allah for His
02:12blessings, and cry out, O Allah, we are nothing.
02:16In this way, we should continue to move forward under our umbrella, under our mercy, and
02:23Pakistan should always be a supporter and a supporter.
02:27With this, salute those martyrs, salute those Ghazis who took part in this.
02:33The families of the martyrs, who prepare their children and grandchildren and take them to
02:39the front line.
02:40They stand up and say, come after being shot in the chest.
02:44What are they saying about this market?
02:46About our martyrs?
02:48Listen.
02:49India is a cowardly country, which is now our enemy, which attacked our civilians,
02:55those innocent lives, in the darkness of the night.
02:58Our Pak Army, our people, united, stood together in that difficult time.
03:03On this occasion of success, today, we are celebrating Yawm-e-Tashakur.
03:07We are giving thanks to Allah.
03:10Pakistan Zindabad, Pak Army Paindabad.
03:12Recently, India attacked Pakistan.
03:15And Pakistan, at the time of Fajr, started the Banyan-e-Marsus Operation, face-to-face
03:20with India, and proved that it could face any challenge in the world.
03:23In the history of the night, India attacked Pakistan.
03:26In response, the Pak Army faced the enemy face-to-face.
03:29Our Pak Army is strong.
03:31As in the darkness of the night, India attacked Pakistan.
03:34In this battle, after the victory of Andhar, the Pakistan Army proved that it is the best
03:39army in the world.
03:40Our Pak Army is the best army in the world.
03:43We are with the Pak Army.
03:45We are with the Pakistan Army.
03:47We are with the Pakistan Army.
03:49Our Pak Army is the best army in the world.
03:52We are with the Pak Army.
03:54Today, we are celebrating Yawm-e-Tashakur.
03:58Once again, Salam to the martyrs.
04:00And in the Holy Quran, it is written for them that those who are killed in the way of Allah,
04:04never think of them as dead.
04:07Rather, they are alive with their Lord, and get sustenance.
04:11In the same way, Salam to our Ghazis.
04:14The way the Ghazis defended the enemy was also unparalleled.
04:20Along with this, our politicians should see unity in this matter.
04:25It is very important to know this.
04:27It is very important to recognize this.
04:29No matter how much the Pakistanis cannot agree with each other.
04:33But there is an agreement on one thing.
04:36And that is to stand against the enemy like a wall.
04:39That is, to stand as a foundation.
04:42How did our politicians demonstrate this unity?
04:45Today is Yawm-e-Tashakur.
04:47This day is celebrated by everyone in the history of the world.
04:51To destroy six ships of the enemy,
04:54who considered himself the governor of South Asia.
04:58Today, Allah has given Pakistan such a position
05:03that no great power can stop us.
05:08The whole nation is united today.
05:11Our soldiers responded to India with their bravery.
05:16I congratulate all their people.
05:18I say that they should celebrate Yawm-e-Tashakur on this day.
05:21Operation Bunyan-ul-Marsur.
05:23Like this, the whole nation took part in it like a glass-filled wall.
05:28I am very proud of this nation.
05:30Congratulations to everyone.
05:32It is a day to show gratitude that Allah has given success in the path of truth.
05:36Pakistan is not afraid of war.
05:39Our brotherhood and peace should not be considered a weakness.
05:44When it comes to Pakistan, we are all one.
05:48I also salute Shoda, who protected the borders of Pakistan in the next elections.
05:56It is also important to note that we are a peaceful country.
06:00We are a peaceful nation.
06:02We want peace.
06:04We will not celebrate war as a celebration.
06:06We will celebrate peace as a celebration.
06:08Now, the matter has come to the table.
06:11The table on which two countries,
06:13who were born in the same year, in the same month,
06:18in the same night,
06:21who got rid of colonialism,
06:24should have walked together.
06:26India and Pakistan should have walked together.
06:28But India's warlike attitude and
06:30the thought of establishing sovereignty over the entire region has not been able to end.
06:35But the matter of Kashmir,
06:37which is the most tense in India and Pakistan at this time,
06:41has also come to the table.
06:43DGISPR has said a very important thing about peace and Kashmir.
06:48Listen.
06:49Anyone who tries to violate our territorial integrity and sovereignty,
06:53our response will be brutal,
06:55our response will be swift and assured.
06:57We love peace.
06:58We are not celebrating victory.
06:59We are actually celebrating peace.
07:00Kashmir.
07:01It's a problem that involves three countries.
07:03Pakistan, India and China also.
07:04It's a problem that has to be resolved as per the will of the people of Kashmir.
07:08Till the time we don't resolve the issue of Kashmir,
07:11there can never be peace between India and Pakistan.
07:15What is the matter with our martyrs?
07:17What is the matter with our martyrs?
07:18These are the martyrs.
07:19These are the people who you have given the taste of God.
07:24These are the people who have been given the taste of God by God.
07:29To talk to us about this and to convey this day of gratitude to you,
07:34we have Air Marshal Retired Amir Masood Sahib with us.
07:38Amir Masood Sahib is also a Ghazi.
07:40He has also served in big battles.
07:42Amir Sahib, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
07:44It's a pleasure having you in the show.
07:46I know for a fact that the way the Air Force is capable at this time,
07:52you also have a very important role in this.
07:54In the same way, all the officers played their roles in their own time.
07:59Pakistan's Air Force raised Pakistan's head with pride in 2019 and 2025.
08:08In the same way, Pakistan Army and Pakistan Navy also.
08:11Today, Amir Sahib is being thanked.
08:13Even today, in India, Amir Sahib is trying to flip the narrative.
08:19In a way, the lost and beaten battle should be flipped in a way that we have won or we have beaten a lot.
08:30Amir Sahib, you also know the inside story.
08:32Tell me how much truth is in their claims?
08:38Yes, Anika. Thank you very much.
08:40In the name of God, the Merciful.
08:42See, congratulations to you too.
08:44Thank you very much.
08:46And we are celebrating it with great respect.
08:50There is humility.
08:52There is no pride at all.
08:55And it is a great blessing of God that God gave us this opportunity to celebrate it.
09:00It was God's hand in this complete victory.
09:03And God gave us a chance.
09:05We had such bravery and bravery in the army that made every intention of the enemy a failure.
09:14See, if you look at the overall context and look at it strategically, you can see two or three factors very clearly in this whole market.
09:24One is that the objectives that India had defined were not achieved.
09:32If there were any objectives.
09:34Because this was their entire narrative.
09:38And after that, the way they took action, I did not see any alignment in it.
09:42And neither did I see any coherence in it between military and political objectives that they wanted to achieve.
09:50And if they say that we had achieved our objectives on the first day, then why did they continue?
09:57After that, the next day they attacked the drones.
10:00The next day, they shot missiles at the surface.
10:03So this means that on the first day, their objective was not achieved.
10:08It was not achieved because while they were doing this offensive at the time and point of their choosing,
10:16they had the element of surprise.
10:18They did not have the element of deception.
10:21But Alhamdulillah, the air force made their intentions a failure.
10:25And when we were defending, but with an offensive mind, we dropped their five planes on the same day.
10:32In the same first hour.
10:34And this is very important.
10:36Now, the air battle has a very high tempo.
10:40And the first hour or half hour in it matters a lot to define the subsequent battle.
10:47Rather, to define the outcome of the subsequent war.
10:50Because it shows a resolve.
10:52Secondly, what we saw was that while you were defending,
10:55and the missiles they dropped were all from within their borders.
10:59They had never come close to the border.
11:02But at that time, we found out when they attacked.
11:06And after that attack, we reacted and reacted in such a classical and offensive way
11:13that you see that within one hour, we achieved that control of air.
11:17That is a big thing and a very important thing.
11:20See, the same control of air that you mentioned in 2019, we achieved.
11:25This shows the training of our air force, the mindset of our air force, the execution of our air force.
11:33So, this control of air is very important in a war.
11:37The outcome of the whole war changes.
11:43If you are in an area where there is a war or a battle or a conflict,
11:50if your air force gains control over the air,
11:55then you will win the war.
11:58The deal is done.
11:59And this is exactly what happened.
12:01There is no doubt about it, Mr. Amir.
12:03Mr. Amir, at this time, the representatives of the air force there,
12:07first of all, they published our press conference, copied it exactly.
12:11First, they made two women sit.
12:12After that, in the exact same formation, our DGI, SPR were sitting,
12:16then Mr. Aurangzeb was sitting, then Mr. Vice Admiral was sitting.
12:18In the same way, they also compiled their press conference.
12:21Now, after that, when they were asked how many Pakistani planes fell,
12:25they said, should I tell you how many fell?
12:27I cannot tell you the exact figure at this time, but we have also inflicted losses.
12:34You tell me, those who repeatedly take the name of F-16,
12:37those who repeatedly say that we have inflicted losses,
12:39we could not say anything.
12:41We are telling the number.
12:42The AVM Aurangzeb said, 6 nil.
12:45So, when it becomes 6 nil, we are telling the number.
12:48Tell us, did we have any loss in these planes?
12:57Look, Anika, we saw a big dichotomy,
12:59a contradiction in their statement, their narrative.
13:04This time, Alhamdulillah, as compared to 2019,
13:08our info operation, I congratulate the ISPR,
13:12all of you media people, that we pursued it very aggressively.
13:16And we saw a synchronization, a synergy,
13:19which was seen in our actions and in our narrative,
13:22which is very important in the outcome of war.
13:24And this thing is very useful in modern wars.
13:27And Alhamdulillah, this time we saw this thing
13:30and it affected people a lot
13:32in the hearts and mind of our population also
13:35and that of the world also.
13:37So this is a very important thing.
13:39So first of all, this thing.
13:40Secondly, the result of air force cannot be hidden from anyone.
13:47Today, we have such technology
13:50that through space imagery, through radars,
13:53through other sensors,
13:54and through the manufacturers,
13:56we know exactly how many of your planes have crashed.
14:00International media, throughout,
14:02no international media has mentioned even once
14:05that India has crashed Pakistan's F-16.
14:08Actually, I'm sorry, I'm cutting you short, Amir sahib.
14:10Christine Fair, who usually criticizes Pakistan a lot,
14:14was doing a program with Karan Thapar
14:16and he asked a question,
14:17that has the Indian Air Force inflicted any losses?
14:20So he said a word, and that word was nonsense.
14:23Nonsense, yes.
14:24And this Christine Fair,
14:27Yes, Anika, this was the same Christine Fair
14:29with whom he said in 2019 also,
14:31that Nandan just dropped the F-16.
14:33So he replied,
14:34that I would have wished that India would have done that.
14:38But it never happened.
14:40These are his words from 2019.
14:43And that Christine Fair,
14:44which you said exactly,
14:45that always criticizes Pakistan a lot,
14:51and has had very anti-sentiments.
14:55But I want to tell you that
14:58no international media has said that
15:00Pakistan has dropped a plane.
15:03And we have proofs to substantiate this thing,
15:05that yes, we have dropped a plane.
15:07And after that,
15:08there were images on their media,
15:11that three to four planes have been dropped in Kashmir,
15:13a plane has been dropped on Batinda.
15:15And you saw these things in body language,
15:19and also in their narrative,
15:20when their press conference was held,
15:23their senior leadership and the Air Force Air Marshal,
15:26the way they replied,
15:27that losses are part of the combat.
15:29So they didn't talk about losses.
15:32Okay, the Dassault Aviation,
15:34Amir Sahab,
15:35isn't it clear,
15:37isn't it very clear,
15:39that they want to save themselves from more shares falling?
15:44Yes, look,
15:45this can't be hidden.
15:47Now their shares have fallen a lot,
15:49and China's shares have gone up a lot.
15:52The thing to understand for India,
15:55and the world knows this very well,
15:57and I would like to say to some of the viewers,
16:02that their concept of war fighting,
16:07has been very obsolete.
16:09And it doesn't work anymore.
16:11Pakistan's way of war fighting,
16:14especially the Air Employment,
16:17and the way we have been trained,
16:18independently,
16:20and the decision-making aspect is very important.
16:23Look, I had said in my earlier podcast,
16:26that India's decision-making aspect,
16:29is very bureaucratic and political.
16:32And it matters a lot in the outcome of war,
16:34and even in battle.
16:36So their independent thought process,
16:39is not in the military.
16:40There is no decentralization.
16:42The Pakistan Air Force has always,
16:44employed itself in a very independent way.
16:47Decision-making has always been very prompt,
16:50from tactical level, to operational,
16:52to strategic level.
16:53These things matter a lot in the outcome of battle,
16:55especially in today's air battle,
16:58which is very high-tempo,
17:00and in which a lot of aircraft are involved,
17:02there is no time for that.
17:04They have a lot of hurdles,
17:06which are independent.
17:07Look, their tactics have also been,
17:09let me come to that level,
17:11they have been the way the Russians employ their aircraft,
17:14as an air artillery.
17:16We have had an independent employment,
17:19just like the Americans did in the Gulf War,
17:21and tried to create a shock and awe.
17:23In that, the Air Force was independent,
17:25in employment, in all domains.
17:28And the effects of that independence,
17:30are very good.
17:32Subsequently, we saw in the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia,
17:35that the Azerbaijanis employed their air force,
17:37very independently, very efficiently,
17:41and the drones and aircraft,
17:43destroyed Armenia's air defense system.
17:46And I have heard, by the time,
17:48India will upgrade its tactics,
17:51with the grace of God,
17:53under the guidance of God,
17:54and under his protection,
17:56we will be two steps ahead of them,
17:57God willing.
17:59Mr. Amir, with this, I need to go towards a break,
18:02because then we will have Mr. Rana Sinhaullah with us.
18:05But remember,
18:06viewers, in this entire war,
18:09there is also a war of narrative.
18:11After losing, India wants to somehow win.
18:15Now, we will talk about nuclear radiation,
18:17and what all they are discussing.
18:19We will talk about this with Mr. Rana,
18:21but after a break.
18:25Welcome back after the break.
18:25On one hand, the defense issues,
18:27and on the other hand, of course,
18:28there is a political aspect to this.
18:30And in the political aspect,
18:30it is important for the government and the opposition,
18:33to come together and move forward in this matter.
18:36But, on one hand,
18:38obviously, the issues will move forward with India,
18:40there will be discussions.
18:41Let's talk about this,
18:42and see what kind of issues India will face in the future.
18:45Mr. Rana Sinhaullah is with us.
18:47Of course, he is the advisor to the PM,
18:50on political matters, on political affairs.
18:52He is also the senior leader of PMLN,
18:54and has also been the interior minister.
18:55Mr. Rana, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
18:57It's a pleasure having you.
18:58Mr. Rana, on one hand,
18:59India has already been cease-fired.
19:01But, there is a lot of war-related talk coming from there.
19:04Their media is pushing their BJP,
19:07the lies of the BJP media,
19:10and the wrong things that they have said,
19:13they are supporting them and releasing videos.
19:15Do you think that this cease-fire,
19:17due to such actions,
19:18due to this attitude,
19:19will be delayed?
19:21Look, in this,
19:22we, being a responsible nation,
19:29and being a responsible state,
19:34we should have hope,
19:37that this cease-fire will also be delayed.
19:40And before this cease-fire,
19:43the talks that have taken place,
19:45the commitments that have been made,
19:47and especially,
19:48the people who have made this cease-fire,
19:53who have been requested by India,
19:57to end this.
19:59So, what they have said at that time,
20:04that not only will this be permanent,
20:06but the issue of Kashmir will also be discussed again,
20:12which is the real reason for the opposition between the two countries.
20:23So, there will be talks on that as well.
20:25So, we should have hope,
20:28and we should keep putting pressure on this,
20:30and the international community,
20:34and the people who are directly involved in this,
20:39we should put full pressure on them as well.
20:42But we should not have too many expectations.
20:48The attitude of Modi,
20:50his past,
20:52the way he thinks,
20:54keeping that in mind,
20:56we should not have such expectations,
21:01and we should keep preparing ourselves for this,
21:07and there is no shortage in this,
21:10neither before nor after,
21:12that if we have to face such a situation again,
21:17and if we are being attacked,
21:20then we should be able to respond to it better than before.
21:24Inshallah, Inshallah.
21:25Mr. Rehman, there is no doubt about this,
21:26that the nation is one behind their armed forces.
21:29But Mr. Rehman,
21:30there are some rumours going around,
21:32and to support and defend those rumours,
21:35BJP is using its own social media,
21:38that what is the harm in spreading false news through Indian media?
21:42One false news is very dangerous,
21:45which they are spreading at this time,
21:46that there is nuclear radiation in Pakistan,
21:50or that there is a loss in an important strategic place in Pakistan.
21:55Mr. Rehman, please tell us the reality of this.
21:58No, I think this is disinformation,
22:01and if God forbid,
22:07if such a thing had happened,
22:10then it is in the hands of the government,
22:14and the state's policy,
22:18that in this matter,
22:20no matter how many days this issue has been going on,
22:22five or ten days,
22:24then whatever has been said regarding this,
22:26it has been kept in front of the nation in exactly the same way.
22:29Agreed.
22:29The nation, even for a moment,
22:33and even if it is a 0.01 level issue,
22:41it is not hidden.
22:43So, if such a thing had happened,
22:45or God forbid,
22:47then the government itself will own it and inform it.
22:52But when the government did not do this,
22:55then you should believe that this is disinformation,
23:00and there is no truth in it.
23:03I believe it, Mr. Rehman.
23:04We are completely sure that our strategic assets are so safe,
23:09that maybe the enemy cannot even guess.
23:11But Mr. Rehman, there are no lies.
23:13The truth is always revealed.
23:15But you just said that we should not have high expectations from India.
23:21So keeping this in mind,
23:22are our diplomatic channels still active?
23:25Because in all these circumstances,
23:27our diplomatic channels have also done a lot of work.
23:30This time, no one stood with India.
23:31So are those diplomatic channels also active right now?
23:35Yes, absolutely.
23:36This was the first time that Pakistan has had a very clear success
23:43and superiority over India on the diplomatic channel.
23:47This has never happened before.
23:50Our diplomatic team, our missions, our ambassadors,
24:01our Foreign Minister Mr. Ishaq Dar,
24:07the Secretary of Foreign Affairs,
24:09and the rest of the people who are part of this team,
24:13are certainly worthy of congratulations.
24:17The Prime Minister has personally taken a lot of interest in this.
24:21And I think that he has spoken to all the heads of all our friends and countries,
24:27not just once, but two or three times.
24:31And he has spoken to everyone.
24:33He also met with the ambassadors here and had a discussion with them.
24:42So this process is being continued and there will be no shortage in this.
24:51And you can see that we have not done any aggression before,
24:56nor will we do it now.
24:58We have not taken any step on our part before,
25:01nor will we do it now, God willing.
25:03So we have to defend ourselves, defend the situation.
25:07India has already tried to turn the situation around and present it to the world,
25:15but the world did not buy it.
25:17So if India still does any aggression against Pakistan,
25:23then the reaction of the world will be very harsh.
25:29And before this, I think that the world has shown its concern to India
25:37that you are doing wrong, but this time it will come in more vocal terms.
25:50So it can be expected that India will not do such a thing on the basis of this experience.
25:59If it does, then it will be very difficult for it.
26:04But anyway, we should continue what we have done on the diplomatic front.
26:09Agreed, agreed.
26:10Sir, we have to continue this, I agree with that.
26:13But where our response has been strong,
26:17where the response of our government has been strong,
26:19where we have received strong support from the diplomatic community,
26:22we were expecting the same kind of strong statement from Nawaz Sharif.
26:28Many people are expressing concern that Nawaz Sharif did not give such a strong statement
26:34in this situation,
26:36as expected from him as the former Prime Minister of Pakistan,
26:40as the leader of the political party that is in power at this time.
26:45Why is this, Mr. Rana?
26:48Look, I can say on the basis of my experience as a political activist,
26:58that if Mr. Nawaz Sharif had taken on this situation,
27:04and he himself would have led it,
27:09he would have given statements on it.
27:11When he gave a statement, then he had to give a new statement every day.
27:18Then whatever was happening day to day,
27:21the hour to hour was changing,
27:24he had to talk about it.
27:25If he had done this,
27:27then perhaps there would have been more criticism than this,
27:31and it would have been said that look,
27:33this government, the Prime Minister is not being seen.
27:37Where is he? He is hiding somewhere.
27:40He does not have much authority.
27:42And look, he is the head of the political party, so he is there,
27:48but he has taken on the government.
27:52And in the same way, it is said that in Punjab,
27:55the same thing is happening.
27:59So I think that this is his decision,
28:02not the party's decision.
28:05It is his decision, his own decision,
28:07that he has given guidance to both the governments in Punjab and in the centre,
28:16he has given them guidance,
28:19he has given them the best advice they could have given in terms of their experience.
28:30And he has given the Prime Minister,
28:34as the Chief Minister,
28:37the opportunity to work in complete freedom.
28:41In our opinion, this policy is better.
28:44Criticism has to be done in both ways in the world.
28:48People have to say something.
28:53So I think that if it had been otherwise,
28:57then perhaps it would not have been good,
29:01but it has left a very good impression.
29:06And both the governments, especially the Prime Minister,
29:09have fulfilled their responsibilities very well.
29:13And they will also get complete guidance.
29:15Mr. Irana, a lot of questions are coming to my mind on this matter,
29:18but now is not the time for us to delve into it.
29:21But now let's come to a little bit of internal cohesion, Mr. Irana,
29:25because news is coming from Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf that
29:27Mr. Imran Khan has given the leadership of his political party
29:31to go and start talking to the government.
29:33Do not make it a big deal in the media,
29:37but you should start talking.
29:39Before last year, at the end of the last year,
29:41there were meetings and talks going on,
29:44but then they gave you a seven-day period
29:47to listen to our talks and all.
29:51And then you came and, Mr. Irfan Siddiqui was also there,
29:54he did a press conference.
29:55After the press conference, he was issued that
29:57this issue started because of you.
29:59Has the PTI contacted the government now, Mr. Irana?
30:03Has the contact been made now or not for talks?
30:07The news that is circulating,
30:08have you reached the government?
30:11Yes.
30:11Look, it will be done in this way because the Prime Minister
30:16has invited the opposition on the floor of the house
30:21for national unity, for the prosperity of the country,
30:28for the economic revival.
30:33He has told all the opposition parties that we should talk about it.
30:41And he has said this many times before.
30:45Mr. Mian Walsh has also expressed his opinion on this many times
30:52that the solution to the problems of the country is that
30:55everyone should sit together and finalize a policy on some basic things.
31:07Regardless of whether it is in the government or in the opposition,
31:10everyone should follow it.
31:12So, in the offer that he has made, he has also expressed his opinion.
31:17And he had said that the Speaker's Chamber is a common place
31:22for the opposition and the Treasury.
31:24So, if you come there, I am ready to sit with you there.
31:29He has not given the opportunity that if you come to me,
31:33then I will talk to you.
31:35He has talked to them in a neutral place.
31:39So, I think that they should or they will do so,
31:44that they will inform the Speaker about their intention.
31:49Then the Speaker will make arrangements for the meeting.
31:53But Mr. Nair, one thing is very evident from this.
31:55The sudden stopping of everything, of every discussion,
31:59that has at least ended.
32:01There has been an expression of indignation from Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
32:04Because of the expression of indignation,
32:05will the government also express its indignation in return?
32:07Will there be a low-dose situation?
32:12And along with that, their demands are the same.
32:15And if the same demands remain and you do not see any flexibility in it,
32:20Mr. Rana, then what will be the reaction of the government?
32:23If they end the cases, release Mr. Khan,
32:27or if they demand such matters,
32:30and there is a very minor delay,
32:33then what will be the reaction of the government on this, Mr. Rana?
32:36Look, the thing is that if you take it in everything,
32:41that there are cases, there is jail, there is bail,
32:45then look, we have also gone through these things.
32:49The matter is that if the country's betterment is the aim,
32:55and if, as they say, we also say,
33:00that the betterment of Pakistan should be agreed upon by all of us.
33:10If Pakistan is there, then there is politics, and everything else is there.
33:14So, the basic things in this,
33:18in terms of democracy, in terms of the system,
33:22and in terms of the economy,
33:24and democratically, like there is the Charter of Democracy,
33:28in that regard also, I think that we should talk about these personal preferences.
33:37Everyone should be in agreement on this,
33:42that the rule of law of the country, of the democracy,
33:47these things are necessary, and everyone should be in agreement on this.
33:51The economy has these basics,
33:54everyone should be in agreement on these.
33:58So, the rest is a matter of personality,
34:02which is the case, and which is not,
34:05there should be bail, there should be release, there should not be.
34:09I think that if you put these things on a second preference,
34:14then maybe there will be more chances of improvement in these as well,
34:21in relation to this, that if you put these things on a second preference,
34:24then it will be non-starter only.
34:27So, that is why, when we have had meetings of the Negotiating Committee before,
34:32we had also said there that you should first talk about the country,
34:39talk about the system, and then talk about your personal preferences.
34:42Mr. Rana, thank you very much.
34:44You have said an interesting thing at the end,
34:45and I think that you have given a message in a way,
34:48that is what I can make up from what you said,
34:50that first talk about the nation, and then talk about personal matters.
34:54So, I think you have given a suggestion to the PTI.
34:57Anyway, I have to go to the break now,
34:59I will come back after the break,
35:00and then I will tell you,
35:01in relation to us, I mean in relation to Pakistan,
35:03the Indian media, the poison that is boiling at this time,
35:06that poison has become a mixture of tabqari.
35:08How has tabqari become a mixture?
35:10We will talk about that after the break.
35:15Welcome back after the break.
35:16In relation to Pakistan, in relation to Pakistan's nuclear assets,
35:18India has made a lot of noise that tabqari has come, tabqari has come,
35:21apart from solar radiation, we do not have any radiation at the moment,
35:24but I will take you to the side where India's real happiness is.
35:29India has been very irresponsible when it comes to
35:32handling the nuclear fuel, that is uranium,
35:35the way they handle it.
35:37India's theft program is under the Defense Research and Development Organization,
35:42DRDO, and other institutions.
35:46In recent years, there have been several incidents of uranium theft from India
35:49and its sale in the black market.
35:52From 2001 to 2025,
35:5525 incidents have been reported of uranium theft or illegal sale.
36:02In Maharashtra, in Mumbai, in May 2021,
36:05India's National Investigation Agency arrested two people from Mumbai,
36:10who were seized with 7.1 kilograms of natural uranium,
36:15and according to the report of the Atomic Center, this uranium was 90% purified,
36:20which is obviously a dangerous situation, which is in India, in Jharkhand.
36:24In June 2021, in Bokaro district,
36:28the police arrested 7 people from here,
36:31who were planning to sell 6.4 kgs of mineral uranium in the black market.
36:39The origin of uranium and its supply chain could not be found,
36:43but this incident did show the weakness of India's defense system.
36:50Now, it is certain that India has a lot of weaknesses.