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Youm-e-Tashakur being observed across Pakistan - Khawar Ghumman's Report
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:12Today is Friday, May 16.
00:15This is Chaudhary Ghulam Singh from Lahore and Hassan Ayub from Islamabad Studios.
00:18Dear viewers, today the entire Pakistani people are celebrating Yawm-e-Tashakkar with one heart and one soul.
00:24We won the Mar-a-Haq operation.
00:27The success with which our armed forces executed it, we are not praising it ourselves.
00:37The people of Pakistan are doing it.
00:39The media of the whole world, the military strategists of the whole world are accepting the fact that
00:45Pakistan has won a war against a big country despite its limited resources.
00:55Dear viewers, we did not just raise our flags in the battlefield.
01:00We won the war on the border.
01:03We won the war in the battleground.
01:06We have also exposed India in the so-called forums of the world.
01:15Alhamdulillah, today we are celebrating Yawm-e-Tashakkar.
01:20In my opinion, this is a well-deserved Yawm-e-Tashakkar.
01:25If we look at the history of Pakistan, we have fought various wars at different times.
01:30We fought wars with courage and courage.
01:33But this war, keeping in mind the current circumstances, is an example of our own nature.
01:42Not only will the world read it, but it will also remember how we raised the flags of success.
01:50Viewers, in the morning, Qur'an was recited in mosques all over Pakistan.
01:56In Islamabad, 21 cannons were saluted.
02:02After that, we saw that the President went to the house of Shukda.
02:08He went to the house of the special squadron leader Usman Yusuf Shaheed.
02:13After that, we saw that the Prime Minister and the Army Chief also went to the house of the squadron leader Usman Yusuf Shaheed.
02:23Viewers, it is a debt to the nations that they remember their martyrs.
02:30They pay tribute to them.
02:33I don't think you can get a more beautiful picture than this on television screens.
02:44So we celebrated Yawm-e-Tashakkar.
02:47In Peshawar, Alimin, Lahore, Marjam Nawaz Sharif, Shahji in Karachi, Bukti in Quetta,
03:02you saw the flags of Parcham Kushai.
03:06There were rallies all over Pakistan.
03:10Along with this, you saw the ceremonies at the graves of our martyrs.
03:20So this is a very well-deserved Yawm-e-Tashakkar that the people of Pakistan have celebrated today.
03:26But what is happening?
03:27India has had to face international embarrassment to save itself from its defeat.
03:34On the one hand, the world's largest ship, Rafale, has lost billions of dollars.
03:44India has built its own R&D room against our missiles so that our missiles cannot reach there.
03:51So everything was exposed.
03:53After being exposed, they are saying that we had no intention of fighting with India and Pakistan.
04:02Now they are trying to make up stories that we had informed India and Pakistan.
04:07Lord, we will drop a small bomb in Bahawalpur, in Muridke, in Sialkot, in Narowal.
04:16So you have to receive those bombs, you have to defeat them, and you don't have to tell us anything.
04:21What kind of world is this?
04:23What kind of story is this that you fire missiles in a settled area in Pakistan?
04:29You have to kill our innocent children, women, elders, and youth.
04:35After that, we will send you roses.
04:39This is not possible.
04:40So we had to respond.
04:41Now, this issue is being tried to make up stories.
04:46We have invited Dr. Qamar Cheema to know from him
04:52if there is any life in the stories that India is trying to make up,
04:57that we had only gone to Pakistan to target the terrorists.
05:03We had no intention of fighting.
05:05Viewers, let us first hear the statement of Jai Shankar, Indian Foreign Minister.
05:22The military has an option of standing out and not interfering in this process.
05:27They chose not to take that good advice.
05:52We understand that in Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, the offices of the RSS headquarters are a fascist regime.
06:10They are followers of Hitler.
06:12Since they are not good people, we want to send a message to Prime Minister Modi and his foreign ministers
06:18that we want to attack them.
06:21Please stay on the side.
06:23We will attack them and come back.
06:25You don't have to tell us anything.
06:26Is there any such example?
06:27Jai Shankar is well-read.
06:29I have heard that he is well-read.
06:31His books are also well-written.
06:32From which book did he learn this lesson?
06:35From which book is he trying to teach us this lesson?
06:37Mr. Cheema.
06:38First of all, this is called strategic arrogance in the Indian apparatus.
06:45It was seen in their political leadership.
06:50It was translated through their media and reached their people.
06:54This is arrogance.
06:56America is with us.
06:58The West is with us.
07:00Our bilateral and multilateral diplomacy is very successful.
07:03We are part of the world's major platforms, i.e. Quad, I2, U2.
07:08We are making continuous engagements.
07:11This was arrogance.
07:12Then they displayed the military hardware.
07:15They told the people that they can do whatever they want.
07:19They don't know that there was an India Out campaign in Bangladesh.
07:24There was an India Out campaign in Maldives and Sri Lanka.
07:27They are not part of the election.
07:29I think they are operating on their own.
07:34They are like America.
07:36They are like big Western countries.
07:38They will attack an African country and say that they have attacked Al-Qaeda.
07:43Don't get involved.
07:44I think they don't know that they are playing a Western audience.
07:49They didn't realize that the basis of their diplomacy is over in front of the world.
07:58Mr. Govind, do you know what they are doing?
08:00They are now sending their parliamentary delegation to 5-10 countries.
08:05So that they can tell the world what happened to us.
08:07Narendra Modi's 11-year foreign policy is over.
08:10Narendra Modi and his government's 11-year contacts were not able to justify themselves.
08:16The military build-up was not justified.
08:19They were not able to take the help of international law.
08:21And Pakistan has fulfilled only one right.
08:24The UN Charter Article 51 response.
08:27The whole world has said that it is your right.
08:31And we restored deterrence in conventional military capability.
08:34I think they were very arrogant.
08:38This is all their diplomatic and political apparatus.
08:41Their army knows their capabilities.
08:44They know that we are not so capable.
08:45They have started making us fight.
08:47And their Air Force chief's statement has also come.
08:49Then the way they hire their CDS, Chief of Defence Staff.
08:53They make a retired person wear a uniform.
08:56They put all the services above the chief.
08:59So the army knew its vulnerabilities.
09:02Absolutely right, Mr. Ajeem.
09:03Yesterday, we also talked about the Indian military leadership.
09:07They are behaving after this attack.
09:09They have understood their capabilities and how Pakistan can respond.
09:12Mr. Ajeem, what did the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Pakistan, Mr. Saqdar, say in this regard?
09:20That we had made it clear to India that if there is an attack of any kind, we will respond.
09:26We had a standard that if they do something, they will get an answer.
09:31The first phone call I got was at 8.15 a.m. on the morning of May 10.
09:34It came from Secretary Rubio, the US Secretary of State.
09:37At that time, our phase one operation was about to be completed.
09:42So they told me that India is ready for stopping the war.
09:45I said, if India is ready, we will also stop.
09:49Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain, we had made it clear from the first day that we will respond.
09:59We responded and the whole world saw it.
10:02Alhamdulillah, today we are being thanked.
10:08I want to ask Mr. Cheema, is this an afterthought or did he really tell Pakistan
10:15that we are going to hit targets inside Pakistan, Marid, Bahawalpur, etc.
10:21So you keep your hands together and salute us.
10:26That you had such a requirement that you have to hit your areas, so we are doing it at your request.
10:32What is this? Did they approach Pakistan beforehand?
10:36Through formal channel communication, yes. Absolutely right.
10:40Doctor, this is a very stupid and stupid statement from Dr. J. Shankar.
10:45And let me tell you that Dr. J. Shankar was out in this whole game.
10:50If you are an Indian, Ajay Bisaria, a High Commissioner of India,
10:54he has written in his book, Anger Management,
10:57that all the things related to Pakistan are dealt by the Prime Minister's office.
11:02So the High Commissioner doesn't know anything and even Dr. J. Shankar was out.
11:07So this was from Doval.
11:09Now Dr. J. Shankar, you are trying to justify with an open mouth.
11:12We have told the world.
11:14Who are you to violate international law?
11:17You don't know about the sovereignty of the world.
11:19You have not signed the UN Charter.
11:21I think this is just a stupid thing.
11:24Like Mr. Goman was saying, there are educated people, but they were just a sideline.
11:30This was the mindset of Doval, who has political support from Narendra Modi,
11:36who is a technocrat.
11:40Now imagine that 1.4 billion people were hijacked by a technocrat.
11:46Dr. J. Shankar can't just leave his job.
11:50So he was made a sideline.
11:52So how dare they can even decide and think of this?
11:57Exactly, you have raised a very important point.
12:00Rajnath Singh, who is the Minister for Defence,
12:04he is saying that there is no one in the world to tell anything.
12:09You must have heard the joke.
12:11He is saying that we have just shown the teaser.
12:14I don't know if we have to show the whole film.
12:16Listen to what he is saying.
12:18Friends, I would like to say one more thing here.
12:21Operation Vermilion has not ended yet.
12:24Whatever happened was just a trailer.
12:28Whenever the right time will come, we will show the whole film to the world.
12:36Hassan, what else is possible in your view?
12:41Who will be the hero and heroine in that film?
12:44Because we have shown the whole film to the world.
12:47They just want to keep their illusion.
12:50They just want to keep their illusion in front of their people.
12:59Apart from this, the Indian government, which is going through its third term,
13:07has never been so humiliated and humiliated.
13:10Right now, they are hiding their faces from their people.
13:13They said that there will be a pilgrimage on the 10th of March.
13:18Where is that pilgrimage? What did you see of it?
13:21How much humiliation will they get?
13:25Look, they don't have anything left for their face-saving.
13:31First Modi went.
13:32The way he stood behind S-400 and spoke,
13:35the same thing was revealed.
13:37They are trying to recover the damage that has been done.
13:42The BJP has lost a lot politically.
13:45Narendra Modi's next election is in the dark.
13:49He is a politician.
13:50He knows that he has been harmed.
13:52Now, they are trying to recover the damage.
13:57But they will continue to lie.
13:59They will continue to get trapped.
14:01They will continue to get humiliated.
14:03As far as Ajit Dhol is concerned,
14:08The NSA has put him in a position
14:11where he has already put his national security at risk.
14:17Our NSA has put him in a position
14:19where for the first time,
14:21it has insured Pakistan's security
14:24and secondly, it has insured the enemy.
14:27So, there have been seven appointments.
14:29Both of these appointments have been made in one day.
14:32So, look,
14:35The NSA has also kept Pakistan's national security at risk.
14:38And Ajit Dhol, the NSA,
14:41has written a written statement.
14:43Okay, viewers,
14:45The recent meeting of DGMOs
14:47by the Pakistan Foreign Ministry
14:49has also been clarified.
14:51I am coming, Mr. Chaudhary.
14:52What is the foreign ministry's spokesperson telling you?
15:04Since 10th May 2025.
15:34And refrains from further aggression.
15:36Should India resume hostilities,
15:38Pakistan will have no choice but to respond.
15:40Mr. Chaudhary, we have said that
15:42we will respond to whatever action is taken.
15:44But the defence minister is giving a statement
15:48on the Indus water treaty
15:50that we are still held in abeyance.
15:52Then today, a Reuters news has come
15:54that India weighs plans to slash Pakistan's water supply
15:57with new Indus river project.
15:59Along with this,
16:01Mr. Chaudhary, you are talking about a film.
16:03We have not shown the entire film to Pakistan yet.
16:05Prime Minister Modi also talks about such things.
16:09If I ask you this question,
16:11what do you think India can do
16:13in the coming weeks, months,
16:15possible,
16:17with this question,
16:19what action can India take in this background?
16:23Look, as Mr. Hassan was saying,
16:25Narendra Modi has been insulted.
16:27First of all,
16:29in the next 3-4 years,
16:31he may not do anything immediately,
16:33but he will do something
16:35to recover the case.
16:37Because the opposition of India
16:39will not spare him.
16:41Secondly, he is going to buy new military hardware.
16:43He is going to buy more S-400 batteries from Russia.
16:47The Russians were busy
16:49in the war in Ukraine.
16:51So they think that they should buy military hardware.
16:53Now they will go to America
16:55and ask for F-35s.
16:57Because the Americans said
16:59that they will give it to Russia.
17:01So I think, first of all,
17:03they will build up their military.
17:05Secondly, I see that
17:07they will not leave this momentum
17:09to recover it.
17:11But let me tell you one thing,
17:13there is an anxiety in the entire system
17:15of India right now.
17:17Those who could not convince the world
17:19about their aggression,
17:21who have violated international law,
17:23they do not understand
17:25how to convince the world
17:27that what we have done is right
17:29and what Pakistan has done is right.
17:31And most importantly,
17:33the military capability
17:35that the Chinese technology
17:37has been given an edge,
17:39even groups like France 1024
17:41are writing that Rafale
17:43could not perform like that in India.
17:45So I think that India is saying
17:47that because of the competition
17:49between the Europeans,
17:51and the British and American media
17:53are writing against Rafale.
17:55But the question here is
17:57that India will buy
17:59more platforms,
18:01will convince the world
18:03in a new way,
18:05and will try to win back
18:07the tension and morale
18:09that they have lost.
18:11And they will increase
18:13the rhetoric of terrorism.
18:15And we have a very good chance.
18:17First of all,
18:19Kashmir issue has become internationalized.
18:21Second,
18:23Trump is playing an economic card
18:25on India.
18:27He is saying that stop manufacturing
18:29Apple and bring it to India.
18:31Third,
18:33Indians are worried
18:35about how to win back Trump.
18:37So if we complete our homework
18:39and properly sensitize the world
18:41that this is a nuclear flashpoint,
18:43Kashmir,
18:45until this is solved,
18:47we will win.
19:17Welcome back.
19:47Rafale issue is very important.
19:49How will it affect the military-industrial complex?
19:51How will Rafale react?
19:53Rafale market has fallen
19:55all over the world.
19:57South China Morning Post reports
19:59that Indonesia
20:01costly bet on French Rafale jets
20:03under scrutiny after India-Pakistan aerial clash.
20:05Viewers,
20:07$8.1 billion
20:0942 Rafale jets
20:11were going to be bought
20:13by Indonesia.
20:15Rafale jets
20:17are being sold to
20:19India.
20:21Defence Security Asia
20:23reports that Rafale
20:25downs French jets
20:27combat repatriation
20:29under fire as Indonesia.
20:31Defence
20:33Security Asia
20:35reports that
20:37Defence Security Asia
20:39reports that
20:41Defence Security Asia
20:43When I see a Kombo
20:46combination of J-10,
20:48Chinese Aircraft
20:50which is now with the
20:51Pakistan Air Force
20:53and PL-squadron
20:55which is mounted on this aircraft,
21:00I find a unique Kombo
21:02which is mounted on J-10
21:04which is mounted on J-10
21:07It has a long nose
21:09it has a very powerful radar
21:11So, it can track and detect targets much further than the range of the missile which is mounted
21:19on this aircraft.
21:20It can see the targets further away, and once it tracks and detects, so it releases the
21:26missile.
21:27What that means is that, you know, in slightly technical terms, it's called the engagement
21:33envelope, envelopment.
21:36It's very large for this combination.
21:39So, in my thinking, when I look at it in a slightly technical way, it is this combination
21:45which perhaps was misjudged by the Rafale pilot.
22:08So, it can see the targets further away, and once it tracks and detects, so it releases
22:36the missile.
22:37So, it can see the targets further away, and once it tracks and detects, so it releases
22:43the missile.
22:44So, in my thinking, when I look at it in a slightly technical way, it is this combination
22:51which perhaps was misjudged by the Rafale pilot.
22:54So, in my thinking, when I look at it in a slightly technical way, it is this combination
23:00which perhaps was misjudged by the Rafale pilot.
23:03So, in my thinking, when I look at it in a slightly technical way, it is this combination
23:10which perhaps was misjudged by the Rafale pilot.
23:13So, in my thinking, when I look at it in a slightly technical way, it is this combination
23:19which perhaps was misjudged by the Rafale pilot.
23:22So, in my thinking, when I look at it in a slightly technical way, it is this combination
23:29which perhaps was misjudged by the Rafale pilot.
23:32So, it can every even mark the base,
23:35So, it can every even mark the base,
23:38in ten years, I can guarantee from India.
23:41So, it is an historical tribute for all of you,
23:44there's no comparison to India
23:47So, tell us what we can do in the 15 years
23:49tell us what we can do in the 15 years
23:52to take our responsibility as a company
23:55to do what we can
23:58in the 15 years we'll take responsibility
24:01more edge India has taken from us in terms of beyond visual range.
24:05At that time, we had F-16, the best range.
24:08At that time, our range was less than half of its range of 150 km.
24:12So, obviously, India had an advantage of a clear cut,
24:14which means that a Rafale pilot can shoot our plane
24:18before our plane comes in this range or goes near it.
24:21This was a very disadvantageous position for us.
24:23I will talk about J-10C later.
24:26So, this was a very big addition, a relative disparity
24:30in our beyond visual range.
24:32Because you have seen that this war,
24:34I was visualizing at that time, in 2019-20,
24:36when this plane started coming,
24:37that this is a very big disparity in our region.
24:40We have 36 aircraft that fire beyond visual range of 150 km.
24:44And there was no such plane in the entire Pakistan Air Force
24:46that fired up to 150 km.
24:48The leadership of the Pakistan Air Force,
24:50as I said before,
24:51we have kept a lot of focus in three branches
24:53since the Pakistan Air Force
24:55has come into the hands of our Pakistani Air Chiefs.
24:58From Imran Shah Khan to Imran Shah Noor Khan,
25:00so far the leadership of the Pakistan Air Force has gone,
25:03there is a lot of far-sightedness.
25:05I will give tribute to everyone, not just one person.
25:07But I have known the present chief for many years.
25:09I am still in contact with him.
25:10So, I saw that he was very aggressive.
25:12He realized much faster than my expectations
25:16when I met him.
25:17And I understood what was the urgency.
25:19I felt that he talks according to days,
25:22not months or years.
25:24That is why in March 2022,
25:27during a record period,
25:29our pilots, technicians and engineers
25:31get a credit.
25:32Because China exported J-10C for the first time.
25:36And we got it for the first time with PL-15.
25:39So, we landed a record.
25:41The Chinese gave us a surprise.
25:42We landed so soon.
25:44Our pilots did day and night operations.
25:46I told you before that I spent the whole day with them.
25:49And their assignments,
25:51they told me less.
25:52Because the way they manifested their assignments,
25:55in the middle of the night,
25:58that is really admirable.
26:00Now, let's come to the nose of the J-10C.
26:03Massive.
26:04I spent the whole day with it.
26:06So, it has a massive nose.
26:08It has a bullet-type nose.
26:09And it has an AESA radar on it.
26:11A-E-S-A.
26:13In technical terms, I want to board you.
26:16One of the best AESA radars in the world is available now.
26:21The West also uses it.
26:22It has a term, basically.
26:24It has 200 km plus.
26:26It can see up to 250 km.
26:28And its missile also fires at 200 km plus,
26:31which is PL-15.
26:33There are other missiles as well.
26:34I don't want to misunderstand.
26:35PL-10 and PL-12.
26:37And other close combat missiles.
26:38When it comes to 20 to 30 km close combat,
26:40they also fire.
26:42But this incident happened that night.
26:44It was unprecedented.
26:45People are saying that they are competing with World War II.
26:48There is no comparison with World War II.
26:49You can only compare it with World War II.
26:51In World War II, 100 planes were in the air.
26:53But 100 planes were not in the air at night.
26:55Because they were doing visual fighting.
26:57They were in the day.
26:58All the bombers and fighters were flying.
27:00And they were fighting among themselves.
27:02This was a unique combination.
27:04On one side, there are 30 to 40 planes.
27:06On the other side, there are 70 planes.
27:07In that, state-of-the-art.
27:08I have been able to confirm from my sources.
27:11Out of the 36 Rafales in India,
27:1333 were in the air.
27:15Three were on the ground due to their technical reasons and maintenance.
27:18In 33, they added another 37.
27:20After that, they sent 73 planes in the air.
27:22And they were state-of-the-art.
27:24I was calculating yesterday, the day before yesterday.
27:26I was writing a list of the top 10 fighters in the world.
27:30Then I realized that India has 4 of the top 10 planes in the world.
27:35Not the top 10 in the world.
27:37Among them, the SU-30 plane,
27:39I will try to make it simple.
27:41It is a dual-seater.
27:42All the SU-30s are dual-seaters.
27:44All the SU-30s are dual-seaters.
27:48In comparison to Pakistan's 35-40 pilots,
27:5190-odd Indian pilots were in the air.
27:53You have already explained this.
27:57The most important question that is being debated.
28:00We have evidence and a digital footprint.
28:04How many of them did we kill?
28:063 Rafales, 1 SUV, 1 MiG-29, 1 unmanned aerial.
28:11It is being debated who killed whom.
28:14They are saying that we killed Pakistan.
28:16This is Christian Fair.
28:18He is an American professor.
28:19When he was asked this question,
28:20because the Indian did not ask,
28:21let's listen to his answer first.
28:42As far as I know,
28:43no international media has mentioned this whatsoever.
28:47How do you view this claim?
28:49It is nonsense.
28:51There is no evidence for it.
28:53It is even more outrageous than the 2019 canard
28:57that the Indians shot down an F-16.
28:5999% certain that India lost 2 aircrafts,
29:03which were Rafales.
29:05It is very probable that India lost up to 5 aircrafts.
29:09She is explaining that in 2019,
29:11she had a similar claim.
29:13That was also nonsense.
29:14Now, all this is nonsense.
29:15All these things are evidence.
29:17The Indian claims that 20% of Pakistan's Air Force infrastructure has been destroyed.
29:22Let's listen to their comments.
29:47It is nonsense.
30:14The Indian claims that 20% of Pakistan's Air Force infrastructure has been destroyed.
30:18Commander, the question is that
30:20this is an international practice.
30:22These companies make these aircrafts.
30:24Just like we were also counted as F-16,
30:26when their claim was in 2019.
30:28So, how long will this evidence come in front of us
30:32that so many Rafales fell.
30:34We have evidence.
30:35The world,
30:36whether it is BBC or CNN,
30:38other international newspapers,
30:40their local newspapers,
30:42media people,
30:43commentators,
30:44everyone is agreeing.
30:45Officially, how long will it be determined
30:47that so many aircrafts fell.
30:48What is the method?
30:50Before this, you had given an interview
30:52to Rajnath Singh, his defence minister.
30:54He said that Operation Sindoor is not over.
30:57He said that this was a trailer,
30:59the film is still remaining.
31:00I also agree that Operation Sindoor was just a trailer
31:04and the film is still remaining.
31:06Because in India, 4 directors are fighting each other
31:09that to make a Bollywood film,
31:11to register a patent or a name,
31:13Operation Sindoor.
31:15So, I am sure it is continued, Operation,
31:17but now in Bollywood, Inshallah.
31:19First of all, on a lighter note,
31:21they are fighting for it.
31:23Maybe Rajnath Singh is referring to it
31:25that it is a trailer and the rest of the film
31:27will go in Bollywood, Inshallah.
31:29This world is such a big country,
31:31with such trailers,
31:33I am surprised by the language.
31:35Films are so obsessed with Bollywood
31:37and yet they think that our people
31:39understand Bollywood.
31:40Because if you say that we shot so many planes,
31:42Air Marshal comes and does a press conference,
31:44Mr. Kuman, if you were the battery
31:46in that press conference,
31:48the first question you had to ask was
31:50how many planes did you shoot?
31:52And the second, I am sure, you had to ask
31:54that if you are not telling how many were shot,
31:56then how many did you shoot?
31:58They say on both, but do not tell.
32:00I was joking on every channel that night,
32:02so I said that Air Marshal is senior to me in rank,
32:04I must respect him,
32:06but Air Marshal should have played golf
32:08or should have sat at home and had coffee.
32:10If you do not want to tell two things,
32:12then what do you want to do?
32:14First of all, you heard about our Air Marshal,
32:16how clear cut, on the screen, with proof,
32:18with location we talked.
32:20Now coming back to your question,
32:22till when will this be known?
32:24Look, India played smart.
32:26There is one thing, they have learned one lesson
32:28from 2019. What lesson did they learn?
32:30They told the name of our plane in 2019,
32:32that London just shot F-16.
32:35Now they are not telling anything.
32:37They said, neither will you tell,
32:39nor will Pakistan confirm,
32:41because no one will come to see our plane.
32:43The second thing I said a while ago,
32:45that they have a very old friendship
32:47with this Rafale company,
32:49they can put pressure on him
32:51and can do it for some time.
32:53But till when?
32:55Look, in India, everybody has not gone crazy.
32:57There is a lot of neutral media,
32:59there are people, there is intellect,
33:01there is opposition,
33:03there are sinner elements.
33:05Hassan, this film is being made,
33:07who will be its hero, who will be the heroine?
33:09Poor Sofia Qureshi has targeted you.
33:11You are very sad about Sofia Qureshi.
33:13I am saying this from the first day.
33:15No, look,
33:17she did her job very well,
33:19but even then,
33:21she was called the sister
33:23of the terrorists of Pahalgam.
33:25But anyway, you know that
33:27the Hindu extremist mindset
33:29is dominating
33:31and no minority is safe.
33:33In fact, I would like to ask this question
33:35to Air Commander Khalid Chishti.
33:37Sir, they have made some brahmas
33:39on Amritsar
33:41and on Afghanistan.
33:43Pakistan's DJI SPR
33:45said that we have
33:47its electronic signatures.
33:49How can we bring this evidence
33:51to the world
33:53that India
33:55has made brahmas
33:57in its own country?
33:59And secondly,
34:01they have made brahmas
34:03on the territory of Afghanistan.
34:05How can we bring this
34:07to the world
34:09with more clarity
34:11so that we can show
34:13the proud face of India?
34:15Because till now,
34:17they are claiming that
34:19the missiles that fell on Amritsar
34:21were shot by Pakistan.
34:23However, we are saying that
34:25we can prove electronically
34:27that we have made brahmas
34:29in our own country.
34:31Yes, Mr. Hassan,
34:33this is a very good question
34:35and I think we should
34:37add value to it
34:39and use it effectively
34:41in our favor.
34:43I will add another angle
34:45to this in a while.
34:47Look, we have electronic proof.
34:49We can go to many international forums
34:51and say that we have neutralized
34:53because India wanted
34:55Pakistan to have
34:57a very good defense.
34:59Pakistan is very
35:01ambitious and
35:03they are strong.
35:05We have seen
35:07that Pakistan
35:09has made brahmas
35:11on the territory of
35:13India.
35:15But, when
35:17India says that
35:19Pakistan has made brahmas
35:21on these territories,
35:23We have the device confirmation on the ground. We should exploit that as well.
35:27Journalists like you should definitely talk about this and I will give you my advice.
35:31And definitely at the government level.
35:33You must have noted that our DCS operations, AVM Aurangzeb was saying that at that time
35:3957 civil airlines were flying in Pakistan's airspace. 57.
35:46And I checked India at that time. Approximately more than 200 flights were in India's airspace as well.
35:51Now if you visualize, 250-300 civil airliners, average 300-350.