The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 5
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00:00I think Jen is fake.
00:17Okay, well, this escalated quickly.
00:23With a smiley, just so you know.
00:25Also it's nice.
00:26Jen probably wrote it.
00:27Seeing this confession come out, it's definitely caught me off guard because this isn't supposed
00:30to be malicious at all.
00:32Okay, Macy, this is your fault.
00:33I was like, I didn't do that.
00:34Okay, I can't say who did not do it.
00:37That definitely kind of put a damper on the mood.
00:39I don't know why I'm so emotional.
00:42That's a lot.
00:43Give yourself some grace.
00:45Yeah.
00:47I don't know who wrote the card that Jen was fake.
00:50If it wasn't to me or Jessie, it's because they have this weird beef, then I would say
00:55they brainwashed someone else to feel the same way about Jen.
00:58Okay, well, we're proud of you.
01:00This was so cool.
01:01Also, don't forget, Friday, baby shower, celebrate Billie.
01:05There'll be bunnies there.
01:07Oh, bunnies?
01:08Little baby bunnies that you can hold.
01:09Love you.
01:10Drive safe.
01:11I don't like people.
01:12People are mean.
01:13People are worthless.
01:14I'm sorry.
01:15I know.
01:16It's just that.
01:17I don't like people.
01:18I don't like everything that they do.
01:19Oh, God.
01:20You too.
01:21Maybe I am fake.
01:22Maybe I am fake.
01:23Maybe I am fake.
01:24Maybe I am fake.
01:25Maybe I am fake.
01:26No, Jen, you're not.
01:27You're not.
01:28You've had so much on your plate.
01:30I also think that for you, if any situation where anybody feels like you're being fake,
01:34just like bring it up rather than just like, you know, calling her fake.
01:38No, you've been going through so much lately.
01:40It's okay.
01:43Yeah, of course.
01:44I'm just like, okay, I'm here to be a part of mom talk and to be empowered and gain support,
01:52but there's none of that.
01:54I just wanted to get to the bottom of why are these women doing this to me?
01:59And like, what are your intentions behind our friendship?
02:02And if you do have an issue with me, like, let's talk about it.
02:05I said, I think the comment was either from me, Mikaela, or her.
02:25I got everything you could ever want.
02:29Try to make me see you out, bring you to your knees.
02:33Baby, you're gonna believe.
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03:05Hi! Welcome to Fox Glide! Thank you, the story's so cute! Thank you so much! So nice to meet both of you. I think you've been talking with Miriam about your baby shower, right? Yes.
03:16I'm having a baby shower after baby's born because we didn't know the gender yet, and now we do!
03:21I invited everyone from MomTalk because I'm definitely still making efforts to feel like I've been accepted back into this group, especially before the girls' trip.
03:29I've been getting really close with Jen and Miranda because I need some friends.
03:35Are you a plant person?
03:36I am, but I'm not, because I'll start it, and then I'll forget about it. I want to, though. I want to get to know them.
03:41I got some that they're supposed to die. What do they call it, perennials or whatever?
03:45Perennials?
03:46When it dies, it comes back?
03:47I don't know.
03:48No, like it's supposed to die?
03:49Yeah, it's like supposed to die, then it comes back.
03:51I want that. That's what's happening in my life right now.
03:53And I thought I killed him.
03:54Same, actually!
03:56Have you talked to Jen at all? I was so worried about her. Like, nobody wants to hear that.
04:00Yeah, she called me.
04:01Did she want to have a conversation or no?
04:03She wants to think on it for a while before she decides if and when she's going to bring it up.
04:08Well, I guess we'll have to wait and find out.
04:10Yeah.
04:11Anyway, I'm curious who all shows up at the shower, because I invited everyone, but I would be shocked if everybody showed up.
04:17Do you want me to guess who I think will be there?
04:19Maybe guess who wouldn't be there. Hopefully that number's smaller than the one that would be there.
04:24Okay, okay, I'll tell you who I don't think will be there.
04:26Okay, cool.
04:27I don't think Demi, Mikaela.
04:30Jessie.
04:31And Jessie.
04:32Yeah.
04:33Will be there.
04:34That seems about right.
04:35Whitney wants to move forward with these girls, and I do think that it is possible with some of them.
04:40But in order to move forward, I think you need to prove yourself that you really are sorry through your actions.
04:46And for me, I'm hoping this girls' trip can be a great opportunity for me to get to know all of the girls and vice versa and see where things go.
04:54I'm like trying to show my support towards Macy more, and I thought it'd be fun if all of us got together and like did something for her at the pickleball event.
05:04Funny shirts or painted our bodies.
05:06Oh, for like in support.
05:07Yeah.
05:08Oh, that'd be fun.
05:09I don't know what, but.
05:10Painted our bodies.
05:11That would actually be hilarious.
05:13Wearing our bikinis and it says, ah, yeah.
05:16I'm putting together this new group chat without Macy because I want to plan something very special for her at this pickleball event.
05:23Let's hope that this redeems me a little bit.
05:26Let's make the chat.
05:27I'm going to make it right now.
05:31OK, so I said I thought it'd be fun to do something for Macy at the pickleball tournament.
05:35Maybe shirts, body paint.
05:37Ha ha.
05:38I think that's good.
05:39I'm scared.
05:40I'm scared.
05:41I really am.
05:42Let's see.
05:44New text.
05:46You should leave it.
05:47I'm just kidding.
05:48Don't.
05:49Please don't.
05:50For like a while.
05:57Whitney just sent a text.
05:58I thought it'd be fun to do something for Macy at the pickleball tournament.
06:01I bet you do.
06:02Maybe shirts, body paint.
06:03Ha ha.
06:04Thoughts.
06:05I don't think I'm going to reply to her.
06:06I'm definitely not responding to this message.
06:08Hell no.
06:09Macy definitely like hit her head and forgot what she did last year.
06:12I'm going to leave that one on red.
06:15You have to respond.
06:16Nobody's responding.
06:17You have to say something.
06:23It's just me and you.
06:24We're having a conversation.
06:25Everyone leave.
06:26Goodbye.
06:28I just want to kick it with my girls for the night.
06:31Girls for the night.
06:32Girls for the night.
06:33Girls for the night.
06:36Since therapy, Dakota is putting in an effort and really trying to show the partner that
06:41he says he is and I'm communicating with him better, but I need to now focus on healing
06:46and that is a journey in itself.
06:49It's very complex.
06:53Hello.
06:54Hello.
06:57Oh, I like baby kicks.
06:59Oh, you love your Nana, huh?
07:01I think he looks like Dakota.
07:03He's nicer than Dakota.
07:06My family and I don't always see eye to eye, like at the barbecue, for example.
07:10He lied.
07:11Yes, that is so wrong, but give him some grace.
07:15You guys had seen each other three times and then he came over and had sex with you?
07:19What does that say about you?
07:22But at the same time, they've helped me a lot with Everett and my other kids during
07:26this turmoil with Dakota, so I am so grateful for them.
07:30Where are you in Dakota right now?
07:32We made our TikToks last night and then all my friends were like, Taylor, Taylor.
07:36I saw that too.
07:38I'm like, what the heck is going on?
07:49It's just a TikTok.
07:50It's really not that deep.
07:52I know, but it's like...
07:53Okay, but I feel like those kind of TikToks, it's like, oh, they're back together.
07:57It never said that.
07:58No, but it said he's trying and he's cleaning my floors.
08:01It's implying.
08:02It's as he should be.
08:04Well, I don't know.
08:05We're working through things.
08:06Yeah.
08:07But like, we're not living together.
08:08We're not going on dates.
08:09We're not seeing each other that often, besides when he visits his son.
08:12So are you guys having sex?
08:14Because that's going to confuse him.
08:16Yes, but it doesn't change anything.
08:18I told them that.
08:19Why are you having sex with him then?
08:22I have been hooking up with Dakota still, and it's just hard to completely cut that off.
08:27It's almost like a trauma response.
08:29Like, yes, I'm angry, but I still want that.
08:32It's like a thing.
08:33It's just passion.
08:35When I'm being intimate with him, I feel nothing.
08:38I literally turn it off.
08:39Like, I don't know how I do it.
08:40Like, he calls me the dude in the relationship because after, he's like, can we cuddle?
08:45And I'm like, no, I don't want to cuddle.
08:47Like, if anything, you can leave.
08:49I almost turn it off like I'm protecting myself.
08:52Because I know if I do feel, it will hurt really bad.
08:55I feel like you shouldn't be doing that.
08:57Even he's shaking his head no.
08:59Look at him.
09:00He said, no, mom, don't do it.
09:04I'm a little annoyed that my family is being a little judgmental and trying to tell me what to do.
09:09It's my choice at the end of the day.
09:11It's not really their place to say or tell me what to do.
09:14I think you guys just need Jesus in your life.
09:17I think Taylor just needs to not have sex with Dakota.
09:21It's like giving him the wrong vibe.
09:25It's like, do you want to be with me or you don't want to be with me?
09:28Like, are you using me for sex?
09:30You just feel lonely and you want that connection.
09:32Well, go use your freaking vibrator.
09:34That's not a person.
09:36Honestly, sometimes vibrators feel better than the guy anyways.
09:39True.
09:40What?
09:41True.
09:42Oh, my gosh.
09:43I don't want to even hear this.
09:44Have you never used one?
09:45No, we're not talking about that.
09:46Yeah, we are.
09:47I've literally found a book of what?
09:49Aspen.
09:50Positions.
09:51Oh, the positions.
09:52Have you tried them all?
09:54Yes.
09:55Ew.
09:56It's worse.
09:57Oh, my gosh.
09:58I just don't think that you should keep having sex with him.
10:01I don't have feelings anymore.
10:02I don't feel nothing.
10:03That is not true because I think you've come a long way and you're backtracking.
10:08Replace yourself with Indy.
10:10Knowing your daughter came to you and is telling you all this stuff, what would you tell your daughter?
10:17I would just explain to her I've been in your shoes and actually will make you feel
10:21because I assume it's going to end up being 10 times shittier, right?
10:25So, I'll be like.
10:26So, why aren't you taking your own advice?
10:28I think you guys shouldn't be having sex if you're working on it
10:31because I feel like you guys both have your own issues.
10:34I agree.
10:35And if you can't do it for yourself, do it for him.
10:38My sister does have a point.
10:40This is doing nothing progressive for me
10:42and I feel like I have to cut that off or you're just going to continue the unhealthy cycle.
11:07Hi.
11:08Hi. How are you?
11:09Good. How are you doing?
11:10You know I'm trying to be better at just like saying things head on rather than bottling it up.
11:15I saw the video Mikaela made.
11:19Oh, man. I mean, shit.
11:22I'm putting food on that table for that girl, that's for sure.
11:25She's making all of these hurtful videos, making fun of my traumas.
11:29Like Connor and I going through a hard time in our relationship.
11:33All of this harassing and bullying, whatever you want to call it.
11:36Whether it's about me or about our relationship,
11:40if you really feel that way, how about you just say it to my face?
11:43I get it from Jesse, Demi, and Mikaela. I get it.
11:46But then you're in it too and then I'm like,
11:48okay, we're creating this narrative online where I'm not friends with Macy.
11:54Because why else would she be in these videos?
11:56The fact that I'm in it, yeah, I can see how you think that,
11:58but I genuinely don't know what they're going to say in the caption.
12:02I'm just like, oh, we're getting this trend, okay?
12:04I think that's why I didn't think that it was about you.
12:08Regardless of Macy saying that she wasn't aware of what Mikaela was going to say,
12:14at what point are you going to tune in to that's what she's continually doing?
12:19If you've already seen the first post, why are you in the second one?
12:22I genuinely feel like I need to have a conversation just one-on-one with Mikaela
12:26before we even go on this girl's trip.
12:28Okay, well, maybe I'll talk to her and see what she thinks
12:32and if she's open to chatting with you in person,
12:35maybe I can help facilitate it.
12:37Hopefully, everyone can come and have a little kumbaya.
12:39I was going to say kumbaya.
12:42I really want to talk to Mikaela before the girl's trip
12:44because I'm not fully understanding why you still have such harsh feelings towards me.
12:50And even more than that, mom talk is driven by love and unity
12:53and that's clearly not what Mikaela's doing.
12:55She's doing the exact opposite, actually.
12:58Love you.
12:59Love you, too. I'll talk to you later.
13:01Okay, bye.
13:22I got you flowers.
13:23For what?
13:24Because you're going to hit a million followers today.
13:26I think.
13:27Stop.
13:28Demi and I are going to meet up to do Pilates today.
13:30It's one of our favorite workouts.
13:31We don't do it as much as we should, but we have the girl's trip in a few days.
13:34So we got to look good and Pilates is a good workout.
13:37Keep up, Jessie.
13:38Yeah.
13:39Did you only get two hours of sleep or what?
13:41I'm like, I'm already shaking.
13:43We're going to be jiggling walking out of here.
13:45I feel like I'm giving birth.
13:47Your legs are goals.
13:49The one time a year I do it.
13:50Yeah, we're all wondering how she has those legs
13:52because this is her first time in the gym for, like, I think in three years.
13:57I truly work out maybe one to two days a year.
13:59I was not lying.
14:00So it must be good genetics.
14:02But I feel like I, you know, keep pretty active in the bedroom.
14:05So maybe Jordan's the reason for these legs.
14:07You think you're going to go to Whitney's baby shower?
14:10No.
14:11Yeah, I didn't think you would.
14:12I was just not.
14:13Are you?
14:14No.
14:15But I feel like she probably expects us all to go
14:17because at Macy's dinner she was like, remember Friday?
14:20Like, kind of delusional.
14:21Like, there's going to be bunnies.
14:22I'm like, that doesn't change anything.
14:24Yeah.
14:25Whitney dropped her baby shower announcement
14:27and that was the last thing I was expecting.
14:29I think it's a little strange because she knows
14:31that probably half the group isn't going to come.
14:33I think we want to host, like, a hibachi dinner that night
14:35because Jordan's friend has this hibachi grill.
14:38And he brings it out and he does the whole show for you
14:40and he has, like, heat lamps.
14:41You do it in the front yard, but it's, like, cozy.
14:43So I was thinking we should do that for the people not going.
14:45Yes!
14:46Like, we might as well do something fun that night.
14:48It's going to be so interesting to see how the trip's going to go.
14:50Like, I'm excited to go to Arizona and get out of the cold.
14:53But we saw how Park City and Vegas went
14:55and I'm just like, please, can we just have, like,
14:57a calm, chill girls' trip?
15:00I am feeling very apprehensive about this girls' trip.
15:03I am not on the best terms with Whitney still.
15:05She has tried to reach out and mend things.
15:08I don't fully trust her and I'm not ready to hear
15:11what she has to say.
15:13Between that and Jen and the lies
15:15and not being able to trust her,
15:18it's just like, ugh.
15:20I don't want to be on a girls' trip with these people.
15:22Okay, Macy's dinner.
15:24Do you know who wrote the Jen is fake thing?
15:26No, I have no clue.
15:28Maybe this needs to be what comes out for her to be like,
15:30let's face these issues and, like, not be fake to each other anymore.
15:32Like, I don't even know how to act around Jen right now.
15:34Like, I feel awkward.
15:36I know. I'm feeling so weird about Jen.
15:38Really?
15:39Zach called me.
15:40What?
15:41Yeah, like, right before this.
15:42What did he say?
15:43We talked for, like, 45 minutes.
15:45What?
15:46So he said that he talked to Jordan
15:48about the whole Chippendale situation.
15:50Did you tell him we gave Jen a heads up?
15:52Yeah, I said I thought that by giving Jen a heads up,
15:54and I was like, I know you're not Jen,
15:56but I thought that you guys would be in communication enough.
15:58Zach's just really confused,
16:00and it's another situation with Jen
16:02where, like, he's not being told the full truth.
16:04He's the one who told us,
16:05we're going to go together for exposure therapy.
16:07Yeah.
16:08I get where he's coming from,
16:09and this is what shocks me,
16:11is that he fully was, like,
16:13like her lying about the Ben Affleck thing.
16:15Like, why would she make that up?
16:17That's where, for me, I'm like,
16:18this isn't a miscommunication.
16:19This isn't you hating confrontation.
16:20That is literally a pathological liar.
16:22At this point, I think Jen needs to be held accountable
16:25for all of the lies that are coming out.
16:27The last time we talked to her,
16:28we didn't know everything,
16:29so I think we were a little soft on her,
16:31but since that conversation,
16:33we're finding out more lies that have been told.
16:35I'm not interested in having a friend
16:37who lies about the weirdest things,
16:39because what are you going to lie about about me?
16:41That's just not what mom talks about.
16:43Dude, what do we do?
16:45I have to do her hair tomorrow.
16:46Oh, my hell.
16:48Like, how do I not talk to her about all of this
16:50while I'm doing it, but then how awkward
16:51that I'm, like, sitting there for three hours
16:53doing her hair and, like, calling her out
16:54for being a liar.
16:55How should I bring it up?
16:56Should I just be like, so,
16:57I've kind of heard there's been some tension
16:58with Chip and Dale's.
16:59Like, how do you feel?
17:00Yeah.
17:01We're really confused.
17:02All of us are feeling very frustrated with you.
17:04I just feel so bad,
17:05because, like, last year when this all went down,
17:07I was like, no, I'm a girl's girl.
17:08Like, you do not deserve to be treated this way.
17:10I've been treated this way,
17:11and I don't want it to feel like I'm flipping on her,
17:13but this has nothing to do with gender now.
17:15Like, it's literally just the actions we're seeing.
17:17Exactly.
17:18But I'm like, what you have to be that way.
17:19I'm sorry we can't just blindly be like,
17:21she's a girl power.
17:22Like, empowering women is being like,
17:24hey, step into your freaking power,
17:26and, like, tell the truth.
17:39How are you feeling?
17:40I know the last couple of days and weeks
17:42have just been pretty much since we've moved back.
17:44You either want to chop my head off,
17:45or you're crying and you want to order cookies.
17:47I'm pregnant.
17:49Zach and I were really struggling
17:51after the Chip Nails prank,
17:53but we had a really good talk,
17:55and we just want to block out all the noise
17:58and be a united front.
18:00It's definitely ironic that I chose Mom Talk over Zach,
18:03and then Mom Talk screwed me over.
18:05Very ironic.
18:07I'm sorry, sweetie.
18:09The thing is, like, you have me, you have your kids.
18:11Do you even want to be part of Mom Talk?
18:14I think being a part of Mom Talk
18:15is a huge responsibility for each of us,
18:17because, as a group,
18:19we're trying to influence the world.
18:21And I feel like if no one's...
18:23But what are you guys trying to influence?
18:25What are you trying to show women?
18:26We're trying to empower women.
18:27But you guys all just shit on each other.
18:31It's like, a lot of the girls are just, like, followers,
18:33and, like, whatever is convenient.
18:35Like, it was popular to protect Jen.
18:36Now it's popular to say Jen's fake.
18:39It's just hard, because, like, I really,
18:41in this next chapter of our life,
18:43I'm, like, doing everything I can to support you.
18:45And then you go hang out with these girls,
18:47and you come home, and you cry pretty much every time.
18:50And you're just like,
18:51this is what this person said about me.
18:52I'm like, friends don't say that about each other.
18:54Like, that's not a real thing,
18:55but it's like you're almost trapped,
18:56because this is, like, your business, and, like...
18:58It's not even just that.
19:00It's just, like, I truly feel like
19:02Mom Talk has so much potential.
19:05Well, I mean, obviously,
19:06it's reached millions of people.
19:07I'm not denying that.
19:08I'm just saying how, like,
19:09you as a pregnant woman that's growing a baby,
19:12like, it's not...
19:13Babe, you couldn't sleep last night.
19:16You literally had a panic attack.
19:18Yeah.
19:20Anyways, well,
19:21what do you want to do moving forward?
19:24As of right now,
19:25I think it's really important for me to rest
19:27and think of the baby that I'm carrying,
19:28and I do think that this is causing me a lot of stress.
19:31My relationship with the girls is falling apart,
19:33and I think it's because Jesse and Demi
19:36are trying to get the whole group against me.
19:38Part of me is wanting to people-please so badly
19:41and act like everything's okay,
19:43and I can't.
19:44Like, the uncomfortable feeling right now
19:46is the feeling that I need to have,
19:48even though it sucks.
19:49For so long, I've been a pushover,
19:52and for so long,
19:53I've had so many people walk all over me.
19:55I don't want to play the victim mentality anymore
19:57and run away from my issues.
19:58I'm not doing that.
19:59I'm just fed up at this point,
20:01and I want someone to finally hear me.
20:04I need to confront these issues,
20:06and if not, it's actually worse for me.
20:12♪♪
20:16-♪ Uh, uh, uh, yeah, we ain't the same ♪
20:18♪ That would be the same, better be cautious ♪
20:20-♪ What? ♪
20:21-♪ Look, I ain't really come here to argue ♪
20:22♪ If I really wanted to, I could harm you ♪
20:24♪ But that's a waste of my time ♪
20:25Hello.
20:26Hi, welcome in.
20:27Hi. Everything looks so good.
20:28I'm excited.
20:29Yes.
20:30I highly recommend the hot chocolate.
20:31Okay, let's do hot chocolate.
20:32That sounds perfect today.
20:33I was supposed to do Jen's hair,
20:35but she reached out and said
20:36she wanted to talk in person first,
20:38so we're just gonna meet up
20:39and hash this out outside of the hair salon.
20:41I was super nervous about having to sit with her
20:43for hours doing her hair
20:44while potentially arguing and fighting.
20:46It would have been so uncomfortable.
20:48♪♪
20:51I just don't know what their intentions are
20:53behind all of this.
20:55I've asked them to stop talking shit
20:57about my husband and me.
20:59I'm done trying to keep the peace.
21:00Like, they poked the bear,
21:01and the claws are coming out.
21:02Like, I'm done.
21:03You haven't seen the other side of me.
21:04You don't realize I was raising the hood.
21:06Like, watch out, all right?
21:08Catch me outside. How about that?
21:09Just kidding.
21:10You were born in Provo, Utah.
21:11Calm down.
21:12Yeah, so I was born in Provo,
21:13but raised in the hood, so, aye.
21:15♪♪
21:19I wish Demi was here as well.
21:22I feel like she's equally responsible
21:24for all of the stuff that has happened.
21:27But I decided to meet with just Jesse first
21:29because I feel like when they're together,
21:31they just team up.
21:32I just want to squash everything
21:34and ask, why are you doing this to me?
21:37Hi.
21:38Oh, my gosh.
21:39Not good, to be honest, but it's okay.
21:41It's fine.
21:42What's going on?
21:43Oh, my gosh.
21:44Um, I'm gonna be honest.
21:46This is gonna be a really hard conversation.
21:52First off, I just want to take accountability.
21:55I know I suck at confrontation,
21:57and I know that can come off as two-faced,
21:59which I totally get that.
22:00But first off, I genuinely want to ask you,
22:03when have I intentionally ever tried to hurt you
22:08in our friendship?
22:09What are you talking about?
22:10You continue to, like, bash me in my relationship.
22:13Because of the things I want to talk about, yes.
22:15Honestly, like, it makes me question your character.
22:19Okay.
22:20Because I'm...
22:21Character is something we definitely need to talk about
22:23because you're the liar here.
22:25Okay, well, what you think I'm lying about,
22:27I would love to confront you about,
22:29and that's why I came here.
22:30Okay, let's start with Chippendales.
22:32Okay.
22:33Did Demi ask me for consent
22:35for Brett to dress up as a Chippendales dancer?
22:38She said...
22:39For a performance.
22:40Yes, she did.
22:41She never mentioned flying down a maelstrom.
22:44She never mentioned...
22:45She said,
22:46there are things that I want to keep as a surprise,
22:47and you said,
22:48totally, go for it.
22:49That would be so fun.
22:50I'm totally good with it.
22:51And the fact that you said
22:52me and Zach are gonna go to Chippendales ourselves,
22:55that means you're okay with the situation, Jen.
22:57No, the difference...
22:58How was it any different?
22:59What she told me was lighthearted.
23:00What actually happened was disrespectful.
23:02The Chippendales thing was all in good fun,
23:04and considering what Jen had shared with us
23:06about Zach's progress in therapy,
23:08we thought this was all gonna be safe territory,
23:10not something that would upset him.
23:12We kind of thought it was gonna be closure
23:13for the whole Chippendales thing together.
23:15What would be lighthearted in that scenario?
23:17Jordan was literally grinding on me.
23:20That was never...
23:21If you go to Chippendales,
23:22they put your hands on their ass.
23:24It's way worse at the real Chippendales.
23:26The difference is...
23:27Her intention...
23:28Her intention...
23:35I just wish you would have confronted me saying,
23:37okay, you don't know these big surprises,
23:39and I know you're in a rocky place in your relationship.
23:41Yeah.
23:42Is this okay?
23:43I wish you had asked me,
23:44because I would have never given you guys consent
23:47for Jordan and this random male stripper
23:49to be grinding on me and touching me.
23:51A male stripper is a performer.
23:52There's a difference.
23:53Clearly, there's a lot of lies going on,
23:54and those are the things that make me judge you,
23:56because if you guys lie about being related
23:58to a celebrity, why?
24:00Oh, my hell.
24:01And you know that's going to come out,
24:03so it's very weird.
24:04Okay.
24:05If you can lie about something like that,
24:06it makes me question your character.
24:07I'm lying?
24:08I'm lying.
24:09Your husband said,
24:10Jen made up this lie,
24:11and I've been telling her to stop.
24:12We are not related to the Afflecks.
24:14I have told her to stop lying about it on podcasts.
24:16All that's been told to me,
24:17literally, since the day...
24:18Then you exactly have a communication problem,
24:20because he said,
24:21I don't know where Jen came up with this.
24:22I've been telling her to stop talking about it.
24:24It's a lie.
24:25Jesse brings up the Ben Affleck situation.
24:27Again, I was telling everyone what I'd been told
24:30the past six years,
24:31but also,
24:32what does this have to do with anything?
24:35At this point,
24:36it feels like they're harping on anything
24:39to put me down,
24:40when it feels like straight-up bullying.
24:43You literally gaslight everyone
24:45saying that I had consent
24:46over everything that happened,
24:48which is not true.
24:49That's what you guys do.
24:50Sure.
24:51No.
24:52Yes.
24:53We are very honest.
24:54If anything,
24:55me and Demi are honest to a fault.
24:56Jen and Zach said
24:57they were going to go to Chippendales,
24:58that they wanted exposure therapy.
24:59I gave consent.
25:00Jen thought it was funny.
25:02Your husband rubbed his little dick on me?
25:04Jen!
25:05He didn't rub his dick on you.
25:06Well, I know about your past.
25:08You are such a prude.
25:09Okay, I know about your past.
25:10What's my past, Jen?
25:11What's my past?
25:12Give it to me.
25:13If you're asking to swing with us,
25:14it's a no.
25:15And I'm done with this conversation.
25:16I don't want to have this conversation.
25:19Oh, my God.
25:27I'm excited for a good old sunshine bun.
25:29I've never heard of this place.
25:31Sunshine Buns.
25:33So, there's no better time to tell you
25:35than I guess right now,
25:36since we're five minutes away.
25:38Oh, Lord.
25:40Um, so, Whitney called me,
25:43and I guess she's been wanting to talk to me.
25:45I don't know.
25:46I don't know.
25:47I don't know.
25:48I don't know.
25:49I don't know.
25:50I don't know.
25:51I don't know.
25:52I don't know.
25:53I don't know.
25:54I don't know.
25:55And I guess she's been wanting to talk to you,
25:57and she's like,
25:58why don't we just meet there or something?
26:00Meet where?
26:01At the Sunshine Buns.
26:02No.
26:03Okay, you take me home.
26:05Whitney and I were, like, best friends
26:07for almost two years,
26:08and I felt like people didn't get a lot of that context
26:10of why our friendship fell out.
26:13It really all started in Park City.
26:15I felt like I was being left out of the friend group.
26:17I was going through a lot in my chronic illness.
26:19I had a couple conversations with her about it,
26:21and it was almost like she gaslit me
26:23and flipped it on me and made it seem like,
26:25oh, well, you're doing this to yourself,
26:27or you're going through this.
26:28She involved me with no explanation
26:30and then showed up to my birthday party
26:33just to talk to Macy.
26:34I think she wants to talk because the girl ship's coming up
26:37and she thinks that you, like, hate her.
26:39Well, it's because she's obsessed with herself.
26:42Lately, I feel like mom talk is turning on each other
26:45left and right.
26:46It's really sad to see because I feel like
26:48we're supposed to be women supporting each other.
26:50We're taught in the church to love one another,
26:52to be Christ-like, and to be forgiving,
26:54but it doesn't feel like that's happening.
26:56The girl ship is coming up,
26:57and I really just want no hostility.
26:59So I figured this is kind of my shot,
27:01just trying to get Whitney and Mikaela together,
27:03see if they can work it out.
27:04However, I just don't know if that's going to happen.
27:06It's going to be really sunshiny at Sunshine Buns.
27:08♪
27:10♪ Glitter, get it, wear it, light it, climb it,
27:14♪
27:16I don't have anything to say to her.
27:18You can make it two minutes.
27:20I make it less than two minutes.
27:21Let me show you.
27:23Okay, well, I'll call you.
27:25You're going to call me right now?
27:27I'll just call you and put you on mute.
27:28Well, no, you're going to come in there with me still.
27:30And you're going to call me right now.
27:31And then I'll call you and put you on mute.
27:33And then, or no, you have to put it on mute
27:35because then I can't hear you.
27:36Yes.
27:37And you know our safe word.
27:38What's the safe word?
27:39Our safe word is sisterhood.
27:41If I say sisterhood, then you ought to, I don't know,
27:44say you have to go pick up your kids from school or something.
27:46Since I'm being held against my will to this conversation,
27:49I have to make a safe word.
27:50Hello.
27:51Hello.
27:52I just want to hear what she has to say to me,
27:54and then I'm ready to go.
27:56Sisterhood.
27:57You guys can talk, and I'll just chill in the car.
27:59Bye.
28:00Sorry, hold on.
28:01I've got to make sure Jace is picking up my kids.
28:05Okay.
28:07Can we dive more into what's been bothering you about me?
28:12Yeah.
28:13I mean, I honestly don't care to really say much more.
28:16I wanted to know why you wanted to have this conversation.
28:20Why can't I hear anything?
28:22I feel like for me, I was like,
28:24I don't really care to put energy into it,
28:26so if you feel like something's bothering you,
28:29I'd love to know.
28:30I think Makayla muted herself.
28:37I care about you, and I want to know
28:39what we can do to move past this.
28:41I don't care to have the friendship.
28:43I didn't want to have this conversation.
28:45Why did you want to have the conversation?
28:47Why did you want to have the conversation?
28:48Because I want to move past this, Makayla.
28:50Then move past it.
28:53If you want to move past it,
28:54you're throwing yourself into the group.
28:56Every time I open the internet,
28:57somebody's making blatantly explicit videos about me.
28:59Then don't look at my stuff.
29:00I don't follow you.
29:01It's on my For You page.
29:02It just pops up.
29:03Well, not everything's about you.
29:05You're the one making it about me.
29:07You're so delusional,
29:08and you think that everyone's always coming for you.
29:10Whitney refuses to acknowledge anything
29:12that makes her look bad or makes her look like the villain.
29:15You're very explicit about how you feel about me online.
29:18If I want to make videos about you, I can do that.
29:20Because you're not my friend.
29:23You're exactly right.
29:24Okay, so you're not my friend,
29:25but you can blatantly harass me on the internet.
29:27I'm not blatantly harassing you on the internet.
29:29Then what are you doing?
29:30I'm posting my videos.
29:31What is it that you're doing?
29:32It's like I go through conversations with her
29:34where it's like ten different personalities that I'm seeing.
29:36She has like her victim voice where she goes very soft,
29:39and then she goes psycho off the rails
29:41where she's yelling and banging on things.
29:43And from this conversation,
29:44the only thing I'm taking is that Whitney was upset
29:46by videos that I posted on social media.
29:50Okay.
29:51I will be cordial to you in person
29:52when we're at group or work events.
29:54If it's a friendship thing,
29:55I don't care about the friendship.
29:56So we'll be cordial in person, but we'll harass her online.
29:58No one's harassing you on, again,
29:59did you just hear what I said?
30:00No one's harassing you on the internet.
30:02I feel like she's harassing me.
30:03If you feel like that, then come to me and tell me.
30:05That's what I'm doing right now.
30:06You call Macy every single time,
30:07and you put her in the middle yet again.
30:09No, I asked her why she was in the video.
30:11So in Ephesians 4, 32, it says,
30:14be kind to one another, tenderhearted,
30:17forgiving each other,
30:18just as God and Christ also has forgiven you.
30:21That's clearly not what's happening right now.
30:25At this point,
30:26it's kind of like a sisterhood that we've created
30:28that you removed yourself from.
30:33Moving forward with like mom talk
30:35and that sisterhood there.
30:39I don't know,
30:40it just puts a tricky dynamic on like our sisterhood.
30:46I'm three sisterhoods deep.
30:48Why is she not coming in?
30:52I'm like sisterhood this, sisterhood that,
30:54and she's still not coming in.
31:00Where do you want to leave things off?
31:02Moving forward,
31:03it's just being cordial in group situations.
31:05That's it.
31:06Okay.
31:07Okay.
31:08I just don't understand.
31:10And I hate that I don't understand,
31:12but I don't.
31:13It just sucks.
31:15We were best friends, me, Macy, Michaela.
31:18It just feels helpless.
31:19Like there's nothing I can do to break down this wall.
31:22If you have harsh feelings towards me, Michaela,
31:26like whatever,
31:27you go ahead and deal with that.
31:28But can we please just be civil
31:30and respect each other when we go on this girl's trip?
31:34I couldn't hear one word.
31:35It was like I was on mute.
31:36I muted you.
31:38Yes, you ding dong.
31:39You muted me.
31:40I'm the one who's supposed to mute you.
31:41You know how many fucking times I was saying sisterhood?
31:43It was comical.
31:44Like I was like,
31:45I feel like I almost started laughing.
31:47I was like,
31:48this is my sisterhood that I chose.
31:50Looking at the door.
31:52Stop.
31:53It was comical.
31:54I was like,
31:55this is a fucking joke.
31:56I was like,
31:57you're calling Macy about it.
31:58She's like,
31:59Macy was in the video.
32:00And I said,
32:01Macy can do whatever the hell she wants.
32:02How many times do I have to say,
32:03it's not about you.
32:04And as far as like the girl's trip,
32:05I'll just go and continue to ignore her.
32:08Oh no.
32:09No one's like,
32:10we don't owe you anything.
32:11We have a whole group of people going through their own shit.
32:14Yeah, I get it.
32:18That's it.
32:19I'm glad you enjoyed yourself.
32:21Yeah, we lit.
32:22Yeah, we lit.
32:23Yeah, we lit.
32:24And we gon' turn the party out
32:25till the sun come up.
32:46Dakota is coming over
32:48so we can discuss our relationship
32:50and where it goes from here.
32:53As hard as it is,
32:54my mom and sister,
32:55they do have a point.
32:56I need to take a step back
32:58because everything's so clouded
32:59when we're like sleeping together.
33:00Like, I think this is just a cycle
33:02that I would like to break.
33:07I don't think Dakota would ever be
33:10on board of like a full on break.
33:12I think he sees endgame.
33:14So I'm the one who has to initiate this
33:16because I don't think he's wanting to.
33:19Oh my gosh.
33:21What?
33:22Nothing, I'm just tired.
33:24Yeah, same.
33:25And I actually slept so hard last night
33:28for like the first time ever.
33:30Good.
33:31I was out.
33:32Good, glad you're out.
33:34What?
33:37You've been out for like a month and a half now?
33:40Mm-hmm.
33:41And like, it's still the same.
33:44It's the same song and dance every day.
33:46Yeah.
33:47And I feel like what my heart wants
33:51is to like obviously work on a chance with us
33:56like for our family.
33:59But nothing's changing.
34:01Mm.
34:02So I'm like, I think you're exhausted, I'm exhausted.
34:05There's really no other answers
34:07other than like, I feel like taking a good step back.
34:17There's really no other answers
34:19other than like, I feel like taking a good step back.
34:27And I hate to say it, but it's the truth.
34:29Like...
34:33Yeah.
34:34I mean, for me, I don't want anything or anyone else.
34:40I mean, for me, I don't want anything or anyone else.
34:53I still want you,
34:55I still want my family.
34:58But like, I don't think nothing changes
35:01if nothing changes, you know.
35:03I think it's just really hard because we've both come from very broken places.
35:10We've both hurt each other tremendously in many ways.
35:14And I know I have tons of things that, you know, are so hard for me to just work through.
35:20Our situation is like the worst situation ever.
35:24Every pain point Taylor has, I am someone that activates that for her.
35:31It's hard because I've never loved anyone more than I have Taylor.
35:35But the best thing I can do is give her space.
35:39And for me, my whole focus right now is to just be the best dad.
35:44I want him to have a really happy life, regardless if me and Taylor are ever together or not.
35:49I guess the next thing would be, uh, ever.
35:54Are you wanting to still do the night situation?
35:56Yeah, I'll just keep them all nights.
35:58Okay, yeah.
35:59Uh, see, that's the part that makes this so hard.
36:03I mean, it's part of co-parenting.
36:05Yeah, it sucks.
36:06No, no, yeah, I know.
36:07It's the worst thing ever.
36:08Yeah, I just, yeah, I've never, uh, yeah, I've never experienced it though, so.
36:18Yeah, it's hell.
36:20Yeah, I think it's just hard because he's so young.
36:24I know.
36:28It's really hard to imagine a life without Dakota.
36:32It would be like, it'd be another loss for me.
36:36But there is like just a cycle of fight all day and then he'll come over and then we'll
36:42sleep together and then there's like love.
36:44But the cycle is more toxic than good days.
36:53I do love Dakota, and so it's not something I want to give up, but I do feel like it's
36:59the best thing for us.
37:01You're okay, you're okay.
37:05Oh my gosh, so freaking cute.
37:11Obviously, the conversation with Mikaela didn't go well, I'm striking out of the game
37:32right now, but I'm so excited to celebrate baby Billy.
37:37It's going to be great.
37:39Oh my gosh, so freaking cute.
37:41What is this?
37:42I don't know what the bunnies are for.
37:43I just like wanted people to be able to go and hold a bunny.
37:46Oh my gosh, Whitney.
37:49Because I have Billy with me, I knew that everybody was going to want to hold him, but
37:53I didn't want that to happen, so I was like, hey, like here's something cute and fuzzy
37:57and cuddly that you can hold to get, to get that fix.
38:02Bunnies stink.
38:03No, it's fine.
38:09Hello.
38:10I love you.
38:11How are you?
38:12Good.
38:13This place is so cute.
38:14I know, isn't it so beautiful?
38:15Wait, I love this.
38:16I know, there's like a little flower bar.
38:18We've got the balloons.
38:19And I love this.
38:21This is cute.
38:22I know, I feel like a little fairy.
38:23I could barely breathe in this dress, but this is the best I've ever felt, like with
38:27all my pregnancies.
38:28Connor did get a vasectomy today.
38:29He's dead.
38:30No.
38:31I'm curious to know if they show up.
38:32Yeah, I don't know.
38:33Like Demi and Jessie.
38:34Yeah.
38:35I don't think Mikayla's going to come.
38:36I mean, I'd be shocked if Layla and Taylor didn't come.
38:37I mean, I know Miranda's coming, because we just talked.
38:38I don't know if Layla's good with meat.
38:39She was the one who wrote the note saying that I was fake or something.
38:40How did you find that out?
38:41Macy told me that.
38:42Yeah.
38:43Layla was the one who wrote the confession.
38:44I feel bummed about it, but at the same time, I don't think her intention was to tear me
38:45down.
38:46I think her intention was to, you know, make me feel better.
38:47I don't know.
38:48I don't know.
38:49I don't know.
38:50I don't know.
38:51I don't know.
38:52I don't know.
38:53I don't know.
38:54I don't know.
38:55I don't know.
39:05I don't know.
39:06I don't know.
39:07I don't know.
39:08I don't know.
39:09I don't know.
39:10I don't know.
39:11I don't know.
39:12I don't know.
39:13I don't know.
39:14I don't know.
39:15I don't know.
39:16I don't know.
39:17I don't know.
39:18I don't know.
39:19I don't know.
39:20I don't know.
39:21I don't know.
39:22I don't know.
39:23I don't know.
39:24I don't know.
39:25I don't know.
39:26I don't know.
39:27I don't know.
39:28I don't know.
39:29I don't know.
39:30I don't know.
39:31I don't know.
39:32I don't know.
39:33I don't know.
39:34When I decided to come to Whitney's baby shower because even though she didn't support
39:39me at my baby shower, I don't think I have to be petty back and be like, I'm not going
39:43to come to yours.
39:44The other girls didn't want to come and I feel like they did that to be petty.
39:48Honestly, that's true.
39:51Hello!
39:52Hello!
39:53Hi!
39:54You look so beautiful.
39:55Thank you!
39:56I love you!
39:57Today is Whitney's baby shower, and I'm going to go support her, be a good friend, because
40:00that's what I would want in a friendship.
40:02Thanks for coming.
40:03Granted, I didn't get that in return in the past,
40:06but I think we're trying to take steps forward and kind of move
40:09forward in our friendship.
40:10Hey, guys.
40:11I want to welcome you, though, officially
40:14to Whitney's baby shower.
40:16And Billy's.
40:17And Billy's.
40:19Babies are such a blessing from God.
40:23And we are so happy that you're all here to celebrate with us.
40:28Thanks for coming.
40:29We love you guys.
40:29Yes.
40:30And enjoy.
40:33I'm so happy with the women that did show up.
40:36I'm loving seeing Macy here.
40:38Hopefully, we can just leave the past behind us.
40:40I'm not surprised that Taylor showed up,
40:41because I felt like we were rekindling that relationship.
40:44So I'd be pissed if she didn't show up.
40:46I would have had my mom call her and say, why aren't you here?
40:51I want to hear about all the girl drama, actually.
40:54Oh, it's been a lot.
40:55I don't know anything.
40:56Oh!
40:57Some squid now.
41:03You're cool.
41:05Hello.
41:06Good, how are you?
41:09Hi.
41:09So cute.
41:10I love you.
41:12We're going to a little fall dinner tonight
41:14over at Jordan and Jessie's.
41:16And we're having a little hibachi night.
41:17This trumps a baby shower all day long.
41:20Hello.
41:21Hi.
41:22Welcome.
41:23Are you alone?
41:24Yeah.
41:24Where's Taylor?
41:25Wait, what?
41:26That's so sad.
41:26She had more practice.
41:28I know.
41:28Everyone's at the baby shower.
41:30I mean, support what?
41:33The baby's here.
41:35I don't regret not showing up to Whitney's baby shower
41:38because I feel like she invited the group
41:40as a whole as a formality.
41:41And she also knows we're still on rocky ground.
41:43So I'm good to Whitney in situations
41:46where we're doing things as a group.
41:47But I don't think I owe it to her to go to a baby shower
41:50quite yet.
41:50Hi.
41:51How are you?
41:52I'm good.
41:53How are you?
41:53I'm good.
41:54How are you?
41:54I'm good.
41:55How are you?
41:56I'm good.
41:56How are you?
41:57I'm good.
41:57How are you?
41:58I'm good.
41:58How are you?
41:58I'm good.
42:00All right.
42:00You guys all like fire, right?
42:01Yes.
42:02Yes.
42:03It's orange.
42:04Woo!
42:06All right.
42:06Are you guys ready to start catching shrimp in your mouth?
42:08Yes, sir.
42:09Oh, no.
42:09We'll go to you first.
42:10OK.
42:11This isn't a representation of how I am with my mouth.
42:15Demetria.
42:16Demi.
42:17All right.
42:18You ready?
42:18Yeah.
42:19You got one more?
42:20Ooh.
42:20Oh!
42:20Oh!
42:21Oh, baby.
42:21Hey.
42:22Hi.
42:22Hi.
42:22You have good luck with your mouth.
42:23OK.
42:25Standing up.
42:27Oh, cheater!
42:28Cheater!
42:30I'm ready.
42:31Woo!
42:32Oh, no!
42:34Oh!
42:35Did you even open your mouth?
42:37Layla took that shrimp like a beast straight to the forehead.
42:41Nowhere near her mouth.
42:42And her tongue's out.
42:43And her mouth's open.
42:45And she's like, ah.
42:46Her splat.
42:48Hilarious.
42:49I wonder what they're doing at Whitney's Shower.
42:51Probably like milking cows.
42:53Taylor, you want a bunny?
42:55I don't like bunnies.
42:56You can go hold a bunny.
42:58I think mine peed.
43:00I don't mind Whitney at this point, honestly.
43:04It's Jen.
43:06No, yeah.
43:06Jen's my new Whitney.
43:08It's my new Roman Empire.
43:09There's this many people who have had lies.
43:12It's not an isolated situation.
43:13It's like, no, this lie, this lie, this lie.
43:14So it's like, at what point are you just not going to look like a liar?
43:18Like, it's, yeah.
43:19They're so outlandish, the lies.
43:20And they're so specific, too.
43:22It's so weird.
43:23Apparently, Jen said that Jordan had his tiny dick all over her.
43:27No, he didn't, first of all.
43:29But also, where is this hostility coming from?
43:31Like, what could possibly have switched so quickly
43:36with one little Chippendales performance that you consented to?
43:40I'm just preparing for whatever happened with Jessie to happen to me.
43:45She is brave to go on this trip, in my opinion.
43:47Because it's like, Layla has issues with her.
43:49I have issues with her.
43:50You guys have issues with her.
43:51It makes sense that her and Whitney are the ones that are getting close, though.
43:54Yeah, it does.
43:55They're the only ones that can.
43:56Like I said, the delusion likes company.
43:59It's really hard to catch me at a loss for words.
44:01But I was completely shocked after my argument with Jen
44:04because the accusations she was throwing were just crazy to me.
44:08Like, if this is an invitation to swing, the answer is no.
44:11First of all, Zach would not be my first choice in this group of husbands.
44:15Second of all, I did have a situation in a past relationship,
44:18and it did involve swinging.
44:21But that was way in my past and something I shared with her in confidence.
44:25And it just kind of shows me that she's willing to throw daggers
44:28when she feels backed into a corner.
44:30I don't know if this is a defense mechanism of Jen's,
44:32but I don't want anything to do with a friend like that.
44:35Like, it's bleeding into our friend group and to mom talk,
44:38and that's where it's not okay for me.
44:41Wait, Jen, what's your issue with Jessie?
44:44The Chippendales is like kind of a sensitive topic.
44:47I'm just like, what was your intention?
44:49I mean, I asked Jessie this.
44:51I'm like, when have I intentionally ever tried to hurt you?
44:55So what's your issue with Demi then?
44:57Yes.
44:58Some things went down in Italy.
45:00Like, I'll just straight up say it.
45:01Like, she was literally playing truth or dare with a ton of single men.
45:05Did she kiss them?
45:07One of them kissed her on the cheek.
45:12I called her out for it.
45:13She gave me crap for it.
45:15You think I'm gonna have your back and stick up for you
45:18when you know you screwed up?
45:20I do feel like Demi sits on her high horse and looks down at all of us.
45:24A lot of what she does is trashy.
45:26So what else is trashy that I do then, since a lot of it is?
45:28Well, I mean, the whole swinging thing was trashy.
45:30Sure, we got that down.
45:31What else?
45:32That whole era of your life.
45:34I'm also not gonna defend Chase in anything,
45:36but I do feel like Demi did throw Chase touching her out of proportion.
45:41Your girlfriend's literally crying and just left.
45:44Like, that's probably...
45:45Where's your husband?
45:46He's upstairs.
45:47Don't touch me again.
45:49Brett!
45:50He just laid his hands on me.
45:51What the hell?
45:52Yeah.
45:53She's always prying at us and our issues,
45:54but it's like, you actually don't share a damn thing about your life.
45:57So, I mean, I would like you to open that lens and let's see what yours looks like.
46:01So you feel like they were, like, coming at you in your marriage?
46:04Yeah.
46:04So you asked her about the confession that Macy got with her and Brett?
46:08Wait, what?
46:09What?
46:10Um...
46:11I didn't know if Macy told you she got a confession about Demi and Brett.
46:15It said Brett slept with me while Demi was away.
46:17It said I slept with Demi's husband last year while she was away.
46:20Yeah, that's not true.
46:22Demi doesn't go a day away from Brett, so...
46:23Besides the girls' trip we did in June.
46:26It's the ones you never expect and that's why it's crazy.
46:28But that is true.
46:32Wait, Brett was sleeping with someone when Demi was away?
46:35Yes.
46:37Now, where I have an issue is when she's asking me for truth.
46:41Let's talk about you and your husband.
46:43That's messy.
46:45That's messy.
46:46I feel for Jen because it's like if people are digging and messing with her relationship,
46:50she has every right to have a backbone and fight back.
46:53I probably feel the same way.
46:55I just am so dreading the minute Jen tries to come out with the grenades.
46:59I know she's gonna do it.
47:00She's gonna come at you for the fake thing.
47:02Let her.
47:03I have nothing to hide.
47:04She's gonna make herself look dumb.
47:06If she comes in below the belt, I will absolutely dominate her.
47:09I will make her look like such a fool.
47:11Between all the different opinions and people taking sides,
47:15I just can't see this going any other way but a pure bloodbath.
47:19I am absolutely packing extra super tampons.
47:23She's disgusting.
47:25I don't want to be associated with her.
47:26I'm like, you have no idea what's coming for you.
47:29Going into this girls' trip, Mikaela and I are worse than when we started.
47:33Jessie and Jen definitely don't need to be in a room together.
47:35Demi needs to be very careful about calling people out
47:37because we all know she's got skeletons in her closet.
47:40All I know is shit is definitely gonna go down at this girls' trip.
47:44Wow, this will be great to be all together.
47:46Yikes, yikes, yikes, yikes.
47:54Mom, Tom, Tom, Mom, Tom, Tom.
47:56Mom, Tom, Tom, Mom, Tom, Tom.
47:59Oh!
48:00Oh, shit.
48:00Oh, no, she's fine.
48:01She's fine.
48:02Okay.
48:02Bye, baby.
48:03I'll see you tonight.
48:05I almost said I love you.
48:06Well, I do, but you know what I'm saying.
48:08Yeah.
48:10It's time for Mormon Girls Gone Wild.
48:13We're gonna play Targeted C Roulette.
48:16No.
48:17Question of the day, where's Jen?
48:21Jen likes to put on a facade that she's always happy.
48:23She cries like every day and it's 90% related to the girls.
48:27Demi has skeletons in her closet.
48:29Does Jen know there's skeletons?
48:33All right, you guys, I have a surprise.
48:34Another truth box.
48:36Dear God.
48:37I was there in Italy.
48:38Like, I saw everything.
48:40Why would you be talking to him that much?
48:42Like, it doesn't add up to me.
48:43I feel like Demi is trying to break the soul of Mom Tom.
48:48I've also been told that you think you deserve the biggest brand deal.
48:50It's not a shock that I was a fan favorite.
48:53I just think you're a fake.
48:54Am I the only one that cares about loyalty?
48:58Taylor, why do you think we're, like, preying on your downfall?
49:01Because look at the two girls it is.
49:02She's a disgusting human being.
49:04You're just a selfish bitch.
49:06She needs help.
49:07She needs to go be a fucking mom and she does not get my sympathy anymore.
49:12If Taylor's in, I'm out.