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00:00The campus chaos continues. Anti-Israel agitators getting into a brawl with the
00:13police at Brooklyn College outside of New York City. At least 14 protesters
00:18were taken into custody during this melee. A new follow-up from the chaos at
00:24Columbia University. The school's suspending more than 60 students for
00:29taking over the library as part of a protest against Israel. Alexis McAdams is
00:33live on the campus in New York City and the new interim president Claire
00:37Shipman doesn't seem to be messing around here. Hi John, yeah this time we saw the
00:44school take action and they took action pretty quickly. Now they've suspended
00:47not just dozens of students but banned others from coming onto this campus
00:51including alumni so they can no longer get in through these gates here on the
00:55city's Upper West Side. This comes after those protesters wearing masks stormed the
00:59library. This was happening, John. Well, kids were trying to prepare for finals
01:03because the protesters may have forgot but it is a college campus. Watch this.
01:07This is our school. We're paying $90,000 a year to go here. Yeah, you don't have the right to take
01:19over like we're paying to be here. Are we taking? We're paying to be here.
01:23Yeah, they're paying about $90,000 a year to be here. The library looked like this though.
01:31After 100 people about wearing masks, Karen Palestinian flags rushed the door
01:35leaving graffiti, vandalizing bookshelves and writing things like Colombia will burn
01:40and long live the Antifada on desks. Dozens taken out and zip ties charged with criminal trespass
01:47and nearly all of the people arrested were women. The White House says if any of these
01:52protesters were here on a visa, they can pack their bags. They want to come here and support
01:56our enemies, our terrorist organization. They want to take over college campuses.
02:00They want to assault security guards. They want to damage college property. They're going to be
02:05deported. They might have got away with that under Biden administration but not under the Trump
02:09administration. You will be deported. And Columbia put a lot of, the president put a lot of
02:14pressure on Columbia University to make these changes and that's why they acted this time it
02:18seems. John? All right. New sheriff in town. No question about that. Thank you so much.
02:23Appreciate it. Dana? I want to bring in Harvard professor Arthur Brooks, an advisory board member
02:28at the school dubbed America's Anti-Woke College. That is the University of Austin. Super interested in
02:32that. Let's start with Columbia. We had a student on yesterday. He's a military veteran. He did undergrad
02:38at Columbia. He's doing his first year there. He wants to write a book. Really amazing guy.
02:43I think it's Claire Shipman at Columbia is doing a good job in the administration.
02:47I agree. But this is what he thought. He was in the library when all this went down.
02:52I think they're pro-communism. If you look at their telegram channels,
02:56rarely they talk about Palestine. They talk about the Japanese Red Army. I really don't think
03:00they care about Palestinians. And, you know, I think that we do have, well, I've had incredible
03:07professors who have changed my life. We do have indoctrination on our campus. It's clear as day. We had a
03:12speaker in one of my classes, a journalist who said that he's a Marxist-Leninist and that me,
03:19a student, not him, should start a revolution. This was in class.
03:23Okay. So you know a lot about academia and what's going on. How do you think
03:27Columbia's handled this? And how do we make this anti-Semitism? Maybe we can't snuff it out,
03:33but make it less intrusive. Columbia and Harvard, they're getting it figured out. And they were
03:38really on the back foot for a long time. They weren't expecting the reaction October 7th. They
03:42didn't know what to do. They had been putting up with a lot of nonsense that was against their own
03:46rules for a long time. But the leadership is much better. Claire Shipman is doing a great job.
03:50We have a terrific president at Harvard, Alan Garber. He's a very strong and very sensible guy.
03:54And he's actually enforcing the rules, which is the answer to your question. What do you do?
03:58You don't have to say, you don't have to take a position on the particular type of protest. You
04:01just have to have rules about how people can protest and whether or not they can disrupt the campus.
04:05And the answer is they cannot. And you actually have to call in the police when it's appropriate
04:10and expel people as is appropriate to the rules. So one of the things that Alexis McAdams just
04:15reported is that 60 students got suspended. Why not expel them? Why not have that as a consequence?
04:20So that depends on the rules of the campus. And so we saw different campuses do it in different
04:24ways. Our mutual friend, Ben Sasse, when he was the president of the University of Florida,
04:28he made it really, really clear. Look, if you sit down or you try to camp on the green,
04:32you're going to get kicked out. You've got a 36-month suspension, which is effectively an expulsion.
04:37So there are different ways to do it, but you have to make the rules clear and you have to enforce the
04:40rules 100% of the time. And when you do that, you can avoid these problems.
04:44Yes. Okay. Trump has Harvard in its sights and he's on the merits, right?
04:52And I know you think highly of the current president of Harvard.
04:55Do you think they'll find an accommodation here? It seems to me that they're really at loggerheads.
04:59They are, but that's kind of how things work with Trump. You notice that we were at loggerheads
05:03with the UK over trade and now we're not. You know, the truth of the matter is that this is the first
05:08bid with Trump tends to be extremely pugilistic. He's a fighter. And so the result of it is that he goes
05:14in hot. And then generally speaking, there is an accommodation. I'm pretty confident that Harvard
05:18and the federal government are not going to be at war forever.
05:20Do you think that anti-Semitism protests that they are going to decrease at Harvard?
05:25Yes, I think they are. And part of the reason is because we have an administration now that's
05:28completely dedicated to following rules. I mean, there are rules and you're going to pay a price if
05:34you do something. The problem is that when you don't follow your own rules, you get more of the
05:37behavior that you don't like. And every parent knows that.
05:41That's true. Can I ask you about the University of Austin?
05:43Yeah.
05:44This is an amazing, innovative school.
05:47Yeah, I love it.
05:47It's small right now. But what is the potential there?
05:50The potential is actually to shake up this, you know, established form of higher education.
05:55You know, I'm a Harvard professor, but I'm on the advisory board of the University of Austin because
05:58I believe in competition. I'm a capitalism person. I'm a free enterprise person. The competition of ideas
06:03is fundamental to a free society. The problem that we have on a lot of campuses is there not enough
06:07freedom of speech and freedom of expression. And the way that we're going to get more of it is more
06:11competition, is more models of people doing interesting things. The best thing that can happen
06:15to Harvard is that there are different kinds of models that are extremely successful and we can
06:19start adopting.
06:20If parents are watching now and they think they would love for their child to be able to go to
06:24University of Austin, is there still room or are all those slots taken for next year?
06:27Those slots are taken for this year. But of course, there's always room for really great people.
06:31And they have very, very clear rules on how you get in.
06:34And you have, what about recruiting for professors? Pretty good?
06:37Yeah, that's correct. I mean, everybody wants to go there. I mean, not everybody,
06:39but a lot of people are actually trying to go there. We are at the University of Austin seeing
06:44phenomenal people that are actually changing their affiliation.
06:47If I went back to school, that's where I would want to go.
06:49It's terrific. It's a great experience.
06:50Arthur Brooks, it's great to see you.
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