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00:00He's a man with a good sense of humor, isn't he?
00:02Yes, he is.
00:03That's the kind of work he does.
00:07You don't know who he is today, do you?
00:09I don't know.
00:10I think he'll be happy.
00:11I'd like to ask him about that kind of work.
00:22It's A-Studio.
00:23A-Studio Plus presents KAO's offer of beauty to the heart and the future.
00:36KAO's offer of beauty to the heart and the future.
00:45Tonight's A-list guest is...
00:48Kato Shigeaki, a member of NU'EST who is celebrating its 22nd anniversary.
00:55He's been nominated for the best novel by Naoki Shogo twice in a row.
01:00Let's see his face as a talented writer.
01:03I don't know what's going to happen, but if I'm in a group with a novelist,
01:08I'll have the image of NU'EST.
01:14Tonight, we'll see the face of a talented writer.
01:21I feel like I'm dragging my feet.
01:24I was young when I thought I should quit.
01:28Now that I'm not with the members,
01:31I'm happy that I can eat shortcake without strawberries or oden without ingredients.
01:39If I say this, we'll be three.
01:42It's been a long time since we've been three.
01:46We were nine at first.
01:48It's hard to talk about it right after you sit down.
01:53I have to say it.
01:55It's so good that I can answer it right away.
01:59But people ask you a lot of questions.
02:01Yes, they do.
02:03I'm one-third of NU'EST, so I'm called the Yato of NU'EST.
02:09I've changed a lot.
02:12You've calmed down, haven't you?
02:14I have to get better.
02:19You said you'd never quit.
02:23Did I say that?
02:25I've been at a loss a few times.
02:28I don't know if I should continue to protect the group,
02:35or I should end it with a good memory.
02:40There's no right answer.
02:43What do you think of the other members?
02:47You've been working with different thoughts.
02:50You were told to form a group.
02:56You didn't decide to form a group.
03:00You were told to be NU'EST, and you were told to be KISUMAYA.
03:05I understand that.
03:08What's wrong with you?
03:11It's normal for nine people now,
03:15but there were a lot of groups of nine.
03:18I was told that there were a lot of groups of nine.
03:21I felt like I was dragging my feet after I formed a group.
03:26I thought it would be better for this group if I wasn't in it.
03:31So I thought about quitting when I was young.
03:35But before that, I quit more and more.
03:39If I quit, I can't quit.
03:43You've been through a lot.
03:48I heard you talking on a TV show.
03:53I thought you were a good guy.
03:57My way of life is a little special in this company.
04:02I write books.
04:04When did you decide to write novels?
04:10It was on this show.
04:14That show?
04:16That's why I wanted to be on this show.
04:21I didn't have a job, so I couldn't form a group.
04:26I didn't have a job, so I couldn't form a group.
04:29But NINOMIYA appeared on this show.
04:32NINOMIYA didn't have a job, so he went to the company.
04:40He said he would let me audition.
04:44He said he would let me audition.
04:47I was in the same situation as him.
04:50I thought I could ask the company to let me audition.
04:54At 11.30 in the middle of the night,
04:57I called a big person in the office.
05:00I called a big person in the office.
05:03I called a big person in the office.
05:07I asked him if he had anything to say.
05:11I asked him if he had anything to say.
05:14He said he would write a novel by next month.
05:20He said he would write a novel by next month.
05:24I was grateful for this show.
05:26Did you have any ideas at that time?
05:28I had no ideas at that time.
05:31I wanted to write a novel, but I didn't know what to write.
05:37I see.
05:38I see.
05:39Did you have any ideas?
05:41I didn't know what to write.
05:44I didn't know what to write.
05:47I didn't know what to write.
05:51I realized that I only had a chance to do my best.
06:01If I couldn't do it now, I wouldn't be able to do anything in my life.
06:06So he watched it.
06:08Yes, he did.
06:09I didn't know if this novel was interesting at my company,
06:13so I showed it to a publisher named Kadokawa.
06:17I asked him to make a decision,
06:19and Kadokawa said,
06:21let's do it at my company.
06:23That was the beginning.
06:24But when you release it,
06:26there will be a lot of corrections, right?
06:29How do you feel about being corrected for what you've created?
06:36I'm very confident,
06:40but I'm a professional reader,
06:43so I try to listen to various people's opinions.
06:46So I can't say it's different.
06:50It may have been different at the beginning.
06:52At the beginning, you were a little reluctant.
06:55I was.
06:56So it was as you said.
06:59Machiko!
07:02Machiko was reluctant.
07:07So that's how it feels.
07:09Thank you, Mr. Takao.
07:11I was the first editor of Pink and Grey.
07:14At this point,
07:17I was confident when I wrote the first draft,
07:23so I didn't trust the adults.
07:25I was afraid that the world before me
07:28would make the things I thought interesting boring.
07:33I was thinking about how to protect my aesthetics.
07:37As a result, I should have listened to what the adults said.
07:41That's right.
07:43I'm glad I could think about why it was like that at that time.
07:48When I published the novel,
07:51I really did it as a newcomer.
07:54At that time, there were a lot of bookstores around the bookstore.
07:59I heard a lot about bookstores.
08:02Yes, you did.
08:03You went to bookstores in Shibuya and signed autographs.
08:05And you told the bookstores what you thought was good.
08:10It's different for each person.
08:13For example, if it's a book written by an idol,
08:16the place to put it will go to the idol.
08:20You experienced all of that.
08:23I can't believe it.
08:26Later on, I got an award from Yoshikawa Eiji.
08:29Yoshikawa Eiji Literature Newcomer Award.
08:31You didn't get that.
08:33You were happy about that, weren't you?
08:35I was happy about that.
08:37People think I publish books because I'm a talent.
08:42I thought so, too.
08:44The general process of publishing a novel is
08:47to get the Newcomer Award,
08:49get the award, and then start.
08:51But I didn't get that.
08:53I felt like I was taking sides.
08:55I felt sorry for that.
08:57I felt sorry for not getting the Newcomer Award
09:01because I didn't get the award from the bookstores.
09:07I felt sorry for that.
09:12It was a song about feeling sorry.
09:14You told me to write something.
09:16I wrote it in pink and gray.
09:18I got the Newcomer Award from Yoshikawa Eiji.
09:22I wanted to tell my parents.
09:25But the people at my company were happy about it.
09:28Really?
09:30I was one of the first candidates for Naoki Sho.
09:33You shouldn't be one of the candidates for Naoki Sho.
09:37I was impressed that you wrote this book for the news.
09:42What do you mean?
09:45At that time, I was one of the outstanding members.
09:51I didn't know what was going to happen,
09:55but if I was in a group with a novelist,
09:58the image of the news would be...
10:00That didn't happen.
10:02It didn't.
10:04Until now, I've been led by the group.
10:09How many years did you think you were in the group?
10:13I thought I was the last one.
10:16I want to think I was the first one,
10:18but I couldn't keep up with the group.
10:22But you wanted to join the group.
10:26My parents and my mother.
10:31I liked my mother's best friend.
10:35She woke me up early in the morning and asked me to take a picture.
10:38She woke you up early?
10:40She asked me to take a picture.
10:43I took a terrible picture.
10:46How did you know?
10:48She sent you this?
10:49Yes, she did.
10:50Did you pass the audition?
10:51Yes, I passed.
10:52But I was in the group for the first four years.
10:54I came back for the first six years,
10:56so I didn't get any response for two years.
10:58I thought I was dropped.
10:59Of course.
11:00Did you think about it for two years?
11:02I got a call.
11:03I was told to come to the audition tomorrow.
11:08I got a call from the school.
11:10I was dropped in the middle of midterms.
11:13You were dropped?
11:15In the middle of midterms.
11:18Don't make me confused!
11:20It's because you passed both the auditions!
11:23I think so too.
11:25Right?
11:26But your mother approved of you, right?
11:29Because you passed.
11:30That's right.
11:31Everyone was rooting for me.
11:35Your father was wonderful.
12:07What the hell?
12:09I'm not kidding.
12:10But I don't think he ever told me that.
12:12He was supporting me.
12:14That's the good thing about this show.
12:16I've been listening to him all the time.
12:18He's the one who's been supporting you.
12:20Your father was sick.
12:22Oh, you've heard that story?
12:23I've heard it.
12:24He was sick of everything.
12:26I see.
12:27So your father was sick of dying and living.
12:30He was diagnosed with leukemia.
12:32Yes, leukemia.
12:34He was active and liked golf.
12:38I see.
12:39After he was diagnosed with leukemia,
12:42I thought he would be fine.
12:45Did that change you?
12:49Did your family change you?
12:51We're all good friends,
12:54but my parents are free.
12:56I've been with them
12:58as if they were important people
13:00rather than my parents.
13:03After he was diagnosed with leukemia,
13:06I felt like I was his father.
13:08I see.
13:10I wanted to make him happy.
13:13I haven't played golf yet,
13:15but I want to play golf with him
13:17when he gets better
13:19and gets motivated again.
13:20Have you ever played golf?
13:21No, I haven't.
13:22You started playing golf.
13:24But my father said
13:27it was his dream to play golf with his son.
13:30Oh, really?
13:31He said he wanted to make his dream come true.
13:35You're both thinking the same thing.
13:38What?
13:41I think the sentence was a bit complicated,
13:44but I think it's true.
13:46Oh, in that sense?
13:47Yes.
13:48My father said,
13:50Katsuji, you're good friends,
13:52so it's your dream to play golf with your son.
13:55I see.
13:56I told him that.
13:57When I was interviewing him,
13:59I thought he was making it up,
14:01but it was Ryo who said it.
14:03Who made up this program?
14:05Katsuji did.
14:06When I heard that,
14:07I thought,
14:08I want to make that dream come true.
14:10You want to make it come true?
14:12And Katsuji himself
14:14wants to have the same hobby as Shige.
14:17Yes.
14:18So I want to do something we can do together.
14:20Katsuji, you haven't played golf?
14:21No, I haven't.
14:22You haven't?
14:23I'm trying to.
14:24Then let's play together.
14:25First, I want to play mahjong or golf.
14:28You started playing mahjong?
14:30Yes, I started playing mahjong.
14:32I wonder if I can do that with my father.
14:35Your father plays mahjong?
14:36Yes.
14:37I see.
14:38I have a lot of hobbies.
14:40I do a lot of things.
14:41I'm getting the hang of it,
14:44but I always want to have something I'm not good at.
14:48You're good at cooking, right?
14:50Yes, I'm good at cooking.
14:52I like it.
14:53But I'm not good at sports.
14:56Did Katsuji say that?
14:57No, he didn't.
14:58I don't think he did.
14:59I see.
15:01What?
15:04You went to Aogaku?
15:06Yes, I went to Aogaku.
15:08I went to Aogaku and met Tsuge.
15:12Really?
15:14He said that.
15:15Wow, really?
15:16So you're in elementary, middle, and high school?
15:18Yes.
15:19I think Suzuki picked me up.
15:22I see.
15:23Are these four people connected?
15:24I don't think they're connected.
15:26But they're in the same school.
15:29Suzuki was in the same school as me.
15:33The rest of them are from middle school.
15:36I'm always a member of Aogaku.
15:40I didn't think you'd go there.
15:42Who's that?
15:43Who's that?
15:44Which one?
15:45Your sister?
15:46Yes.
15:47Ikeno?
15:48It's been a while.
15:49Ikeno is from Singapore.
15:51I see.
15:52It's been a while.
15:53It's been about 10 years.
15:56It's been 10 years.
15:57I see.
15:58That's why you're famous for your athleticism.
16:01Say something nice.
16:02I'm not athletic at all.
16:04I'm not kidding.
16:05I run like a woman.
16:09Maybe that's why you're famous.
16:12Suzuki said,
16:14I've been in a lot of trouble.
16:17Right?
16:18That's true.
16:19When I said that in front of everyone,
16:21the others said,
16:22I've never been in trouble.
16:24Only Suzuki?
16:25Why only Suzuki?
16:26What do you mean?
16:27He's good.
16:28He's like a big brother.
16:29He's not a big brother,
16:30but he's like a big brother.
16:32He's like,
16:33please give me some food.
16:34I see.
16:35He's a cute person.
16:36I see.
16:37The rest of the Aogaku members are from middle school.
16:40They're all fair.
16:41They didn't think I was a talent.
16:44That's good.
16:45From the beginning.
16:46That's why I'm still a member.
16:48You're getting along well.
16:50I think so.
16:51We've known each other for a long time.
16:53We've known each other since middle school.
16:55Especially Ogawa.
16:57Isn't Katsuji also a long time?
17:00Katsuji is also a long time.
17:01It's been about 8 years.
17:02Is Katsuji in a drama?
17:04No.
17:05Katsuji used to live in the same apartment.
17:07What?
17:08They happened to live in the same apartment.
17:10A common acquaintance said,
17:12they live in the same apartment,
17:13so let's meet once.
17:15That's how it started.
17:17In a way, it's the exact opposite of me.
17:20I feel very energetic when I meet him.
17:22Katsuji has a dream.
17:24He wants to be in a play together.
17:28If there is a time, he can do it.
17:30But Shige wants to be in a play with Katsuji.
17:33For example, Katsuji is the main actor.
17:35He wants to be in a play with Katsuji.
17:37He wants to be in a play with Katsuji.
17:40But Shige said he didn't want to be in a play with Katsuji.
17:43He said he didn't want to be in a play with Katsuji.
17:46You don't want to work with your friends, do you?
17:49No, I don't.
17:51I don't want to say no.
17:53I don't want to say no.
17:55I don't want to fight.
17:57I don't want to fight.
17:59You had a fight last year.
18:01Yes.
18:03It was the worst.
18:05It's not about us.
18:07It's about the people we get along with.
18:13I asked him, who are your friends?
18:15He said, it's not about us.
18:17It's about the people we get along with.
18:19It's like a proxy war.
18:21It was a dangerous situation.
18:23But everyone stopped me.
18:25But I thought it was good.
18:27I got angry the next day.
18:29That's funny.
18:31I can't apologize right away.
18:33I got in touch with him.
18:35I don't fight with him.
18:37But he is the only one who can make me feel bad.
18:41I don't fight with him.
18:43I'm an adult.
18:45I don't fight with him.
18:47I felt bad at that moment.
18:49I felt bad after two weeks.
18:51But I don't fight with him anymore.
18:53I don't fight with him anymore.
18:55I'm in a dangerous situation.
18:57I'm in a dangerous situation.
18:59I have to think about it.
19:01I have to think about it.
19:03What made him angry?
19:05What made him angry?
19:07I still want to fight with him.
19:09I'm trying to be next to him.
19:11I'm trying to be next to him.
19:15Tonight's studio class is...
19:17Super 8, Shingo Urakami.
19:19Under-15s.
19:21The great Kamishida Ishii.
19:23Don't miss it.
19:25We'll have a stage performance.
19:27Yes, we'll have a stage performance.
19:29Edmo.
19:31At the Parco theater.
19:33It's a story about a writer who can't write a script.
19:35It's a story about a writer who can't write a script.
19:37That's why I've been getting offers.
19:39That's why I've been getting offers.
19:41That's interesting.
19:43I'm grateful for that.
19:45I'm grateful for that.
19:47I'm grateful for that.
19:49I'm grateful for that.
19:51I'm grateful for that.
19:53I'm grateful for that.
19:55I'm grateful for that.
19:57I'm grateful for that.
19:59I'm grateful for that.
20:01I'm grateful for that.
20:03I'm grateful for that.
20:05On the day of the announcement, I was watching the stage of the movie, Shinkansen.
20:11The announcement was being made in the middle of the performance, so I was watching it.
20:18I really liked the stage.
20:22The actors were shining.
20:25On the other hand, I was in a dangerous situation with live performances and future entertainment activities.
20:32I felt like I had to do something about it.
20:38I was envious of the actors who were on the stage at that time.
20:42They were shining on the stage.
20:44I was supposed to be there.
20:47But why am I watching this movie with regret?
20:51I'm just biting a bitter bug.
20:56I was frustrated and motivated.
20:58Katsuji was one of the members who was on the stage at that time.
21:02At that time, the actors who were close to my generation were shining on the stage.
21:08I still want to fight with them.
21:10I'm frustrated, but I'm trying to stand next to them.
21:15I thought I liked entertainment activities.
21:19I still feel that way.
21:23I was anxious.
21:27Some people say that idols write novels.
21:32Some people don't read anything.
21:36There are still many people like that.
21:39I don't see them in person, but when I go to see their reviews, I see them.
21:45There must be prejudice.
21:48I'm used to it.
21:52You must have been angry at that time.
21:54Yes, I was angry.
21:55I was told by the group.
21:58I was told that I was a shortcake without strawberries.
22:04I was told that I was an oden without ingredients.
22:08On the way home from the theater, I was beaten.
22:13I walked home for about an hour.
22:17I couldn't get in the car.
22:19I just wanted to walk.
22:22I wanted to see the gorgeous things and stay there.
22:28But I couldn't see my own reality.
22:31I thought I couldn't do the news of four people.
22:37You don't have anything to do with it.
22:39But at that time, I was aware of it.
22:43I wanted to see it properly.
22:45I wanted to get hurt and stand up from there.
22:51It was big.
22:53I was broken at that time.
22:58But I published the novel from there.
23:03That's amazing.
23:04Now that I think about it, I'm glad I got hurt there.
23:09Shige has something he has decided for a long time.
23:15He does what he wants to do and what he doesn't want to do.
23:20He doesn't want to live a stable life.
23:24If he lives a stable life, it will be boring.
23:28So he wants to do what he wants to do.
23:33That's his way of thinking.
23:39It's amazing that he has such an idea.
23:42I think he will continue to challenge himself and improve his skills.
23:47Today's guest was Shigeaki Kato of NEWS.
23:54The next guest is Shingo Urakami of Super 8.
23:57If it wasn't for Mr. Yokoyama, I wouldn't be who I am now.
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24:32It's interesting to challenge yourself.
24:35Yes, it is.
24:37I'm not good at sports, but I like it.
24:41I think I can get used to it.
24:44Even if I'm not good at sports, I like it.
24:48How do you run?
24:50I'm not good at running, but I can run in slow motion.
24:55You can run?
24:56Yes, I can.