Which Current Sweet 16 Alumni Would Win A 1v1 Basketball Tournament? (The Bracket, Vol. 168)

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00:00:00OK, welcome to The Bracket, episode 168.

00:00:03We got a bit of a remote show going on today as KB and Nick are out shooting

00:00:06a very, very interesting new show that I think you guys are going to really like

00:00:11based on everything I've seen from it.

00:00:12Well, that's not going to come out for a little bit, but be very spoil it.

00:00:14I don't know what it is.

00:00:16Well, the fuck out of it. Yeah, well, we'll see.

00:00:18You all see.

00:00:19And Tommy might be joining a little bit.

00:00:21He's he's coming back from that right now.

00:00:23But in the meantime, we have Tommy's lame.

00:00:27You let it discuss it with him when he gets here.

00:00:28But in the meantime, we have my Chicago teammates, Dave and Chief.

00:00:32We have Eddie over there in Chicago.

00:00:33She will be joining him momentarily.

00:00:35We have Vivzie with me and we have Clem who he told me,

00:00:39I thought you had been on an episode of The Bracket before, which is not correct.

00:00:42I thought he had been on with me.

00:00:43Oh, smart thinking.

00:00:44Wow. As Clem puts on his headband for what is going to be

00:00:47a basketball themed episode, by the way, today we are going to be doing.

00:00:51I took all of the teams that are currently in the Sweet 16.

00:00:54And we took I found sort of determined for the most part

00:00:57the best single alumni from each one of those schools.

00:01:00We're putting them in a one on one tournament style

00:01:05basketball competition.

00:01:06So I picked all the best alumni, except for with one school

00:01:09where it was too difficult to determine.

00:01:10And we are going to mess them up and debate which one of them

00:01:13would win in a one on one competition and one on one game of basketball.

00:01:15We'll say it was kind of I kind of inspired this

00:01:18how fun the Rones first to score one point tournament was.

00:01:22It won't be that it wasn't fun.

00:01:23It was all men's.

00:01:24What was the highlight from that, Ken Jack?

00:01:26What was the highlight of me celebrating something?

00:01:31You celebrating was unbelievable.

00:01:33You went 10 feet in the air.

00:01:35I think I'm an athlete.

00:01:38Yeah, but yeah, so we'll be doing one on one competition.

00:01:40I think it'll be we'll we'll think of it as like first to 11,

00:01:42not like a first to one or whatever.

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00:03:03So, again, think of this as one on one tournament style.

00:03:05It's not in seeded in the same way that they're seated.

00:03:08So basically, I took all of these, found all these alumni, and then I seeded it

00:03:11based on how good their best basketball alumni is.

00:03:14And think about this way, too.

00:03:16It's it's this player in their overall prime.

00:03:19So not when they were in college,

00:03:22but wherever they were best throughout their career,

00:03:24whether that got into the NBA, whether it didn't think about it that way.

00:03:28So first matchup of the day, number 12 seed from Purdue, Glenn Robinson.

00:03:35Glenn Robinson.

00:03:37That's one where I think if anybody Clems is going to be the most interesting.

00:03:40Glenn Robinson is going dog.

00:03:42Yeah, big dog is going up against our number five seed

00:03:46from Michigan State Magic Johnson.

00:03:48And an interesting thing with Magic Johnson is

00:03:52I don't know how much I personally think of him as a one on one player.

00:03:55You know what I mean?

00:03:55I think of him as an as the best player you could possibly have in it on a team,

00:04:00but maybe not as a one on one ISO type player.

00:04:03So that's just food for thought there.

00:04:04So let's start out with you, Bibsy.

00:04:07Which player do you think would win in a one on one match game to 11?

00:04:09Glenn Robinson, the big dog versus Magic Johnson.

00:04:13I I told myself going into this, I was going to be very fair to Purdue

00:04:17and I wasn't going to just be a dickhead to Purdue because I can.

00:04:23I don't know.

00:04:23After doing our one V1 tournament, if you're just a big dude

00:04:26and you can just back down to the rim, that's that's what one V1 is all about.

00:04:30And you can just you can just hover over them and block the shot.

00:04:34I'm

00:04:36Michael Johnson's no short Magic.

00:04:37I know he's big.

00:04:38He's like LeBron James before LeBron James.

00:04:40I'm I'm going Glenn Robinson.

00:04:42I'm doing it.

00:04:43I don't care. I don't care.

00:04:44Because when it's one V1, it's what to 11 to 11.

00:04:48Hmm.

00:04:50I'm going Magic Johnson, then Magic Johnson.

00:04:52You have an outside shot that helps because you're going to get tired.

00:04:55So one for Magic Johnson.

00:04:56Let's go to you, Clem. Who do you think wins?

00:04:58All right. Ready for this one, boys?

00:05:00Glenn Robinson measuring in at six, seven to twenty five.

00:05:03The big dog, Magic Johnson measuring six, eight to fifteen.

00:05:06So yeah, it has them with the scales a little bit.

00:05:09Magic's taller.

00:05:11Well, Magic Johnson's peak.

00:05:13Is it crazy to say Magic Johnson's peak is like now as a businessman?

00:05:17Is he just fucking like he's like, it's incredible.

00:05:20He's beat HIV.

00:05:21He's a zillionaire, right?

00:05:24He's beat the Yankees.

00:05:26I this is the thing about Glenn Robinson, someone that's old enough

00:05:28to remember when he was like a rookie and entering the league.

00:05:32And this I love that we have chief on chief wheelhouse.

00:05:35It is like lights out in the dozen from like the 90s to early 2000s in NBA.

00:05:41Glenn Robinson came in the same draft as I believe Jason Kidd and Grant Hill.

00:05:44And it was such like he was just so fucking boring compared to those guys.

00:05:48He probably put up like twenty five a game.

00:05:50So even at his peak, I still think Magic Johnson

00:05:52just so much cooler and more fun to watch.

00:05:54So I'm going Magic Johnson.

00:05:56I would have guessed Glenn Robinson was six eleven.

00:05:58He played like a bigger guy than like I.

00:06:00I not a chance. I would have guessed he was six, seven.

00:06:03That's crazy.

00:06:04So, Jay, what we're doing today is a it's an NBA matchup

00:06:08where he's the best alumni of all the current sweet 16 schools

00:06:12in a one on one tournament at the peak of their abilities as a player.

00:06:15So I'm just going to fuck somebody up.

00:06:17Number one overall pick.

00:06:18Nineteen ninety four.

00:06:19He is he is the number two.

00:06:21That was amazing off the top.

00:06:23So Glenn Robinson representing Purdue, and he's going up against Magic Johnson

00:06:26from Michigan State just for your edification and one on one.

00:06:29Yeah. One on one. First to eleven.

00:06:32I mean, what world's Glenn Robinson not winning this?

00:06:35This is this is crazy.

00:06:37Johnson's a way better basketball player.

00:06:39One on one's a different game than five or five.

00:06:41But like Magic Johnson guarded, he played center and won an NBA championship.

00:06:46He could play all five positions.

00:06:47Yeah. Who's not passing game, but he was stopping the baby hook.

00:06:52Who's stopping the baby hook?

00:06:53Not Glenn Robinson.

00:06:55You ever seen Magic shoot?

00:06:56It's not like a real nice looking shot.

00:06:58He's going to walk him down.

00:07:01Get wherever he wants.

00:07:02He's famous for playing five positions. Yeah.

00:07:05You can guard all five.

00:07:07I'm taking Glenn Robinson minus one and a half.

00:07:10One for Glenn.

00:07:12I can't take Dave serious.

00:07:13He looks like he's in a call center.

00:07:15Yeah, it's my gaming headset.

00:07:18Asshole.

00:07:19I can't take it.

00:07:20Yeah, yeah.

00:07:20That's the asshole in this job.

00:07:24He's got like a like he legit looks like he's going to give a motivational speech.

00:07:28Yeah, I'm about to sell a new Apple product.

00:07:31Yeah, so we are two for Magic Johnson, one for Glenn Robinson, Eddie.

00:07:39Big dog, I'm going magic just because of the famous

00:07:42that like that's what I know about Magic Johnson is that he played all five

00:07:46positions, so magic. Yeah.

00:07:48So we are three for Magic Johnson, one for Glenn Robinson.

00:07:51White Sox, Dave.

00:07:53Um. I mean,

00:07:57well, I also thought Magic Johnson was like six, ten, six, eleven.

00:08:02For some reason, I didn't realize he was only six eight.

00:08:05Don't say also.

00:08:06I did not think Magic Johnson was six.

00:08:07I thought it was like when Robinson was.

00:08:09I thought I thought Magic Johnson was six, ten for some reason.

00:08:12I thought he was like, you know, crazy tall, also played point guard, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:16He's not passing to anybody.

00:08:17Glenn Robinson, I think like in my head, he's got a lot more bounce and juice.

00:08:23And for a one on one matchup, I'm going to go.

00:08:25I'm going to take him for this specific exercise.

00:08:29So we that means we are three for Magic Johnson, one for Glenn Robinson, chief.

00:08:34I'm on magic.

00:08:35This to me is and I love I love Big Dog.

00:08:39I think he won three Big Ten championships at Purdue.

00:08:41He was awesome. Milwaukee Bucks.

00:08:43Like I like he's one of the earliest players that I can kind of remember

00:08:47coming into the league, if that makes sense.

00:08:50But like this is we're talking about one of the greatest players of all time

00:08:52who can guard. He's longer.

00:08:55He's a better ball handler.

00:08:56He has moves in the post.

00:08:58He can get to the basket like this.

00:09:01This is insane that I feel like people are taking Big Dog.

00:09:04And I like Big Dog.

00:09:06You know, who is a similar size profile?

00:09:09And actually, it was like kind of compared to him for a little bit

00:09:11when he was healthy, was the best player in Duke history, Grant Hill.

00:09:16Grant Hill went three in that draft.

00:09:17Glenn Robinson went one because the game back then was just like

00:09:20if you have like a horse that can score like that's your guy.

00:09:23Glenn Robinson was picked ahead of him.

00:09:25Yeah, well, they fucked up.

00:09:26Clearly, Grant Hill was a better.

00:09:27I was a really good guy to hurt.

00:09:29Jason Kidd was better, too.

00:09:30Well, I'm talking about one on one. Yeah.

00:09:32Yeah. All those players were better after him.

00:09:33But if you're talking about one on one, like I'm still taking Glenn Robinson

00:09:38over Grant Hill and Jason Kidd and Matt Johnson, too.

00:09:40And I gave him a one on one.

00:09:41See, the name Magic is such a sick, sweet nickname.

00:09:45Big Dog does lend itself to a one on one tournament.

00:09:48Yeah, you do.

00:09:49Man, I just assume like suaveness.

00:09:52Like, I don't know.

00:09:54Can you give me the guy that's going to

00:09:56jump through the gym and dunk on someone?

00:09:58Do you guys ever have like one on one people that you play with

00:10:00and like growing up, like people that didn't go to like your

00:10:03you weren't friends with or at your school or anything like that?

00:10:06We had. Oh, yeah.

00:10:06We had this guy that would always show up and play with us

00:10:09when we were like 16 or 17.

00:10:10He would show up with his daughter.

00:10:11His name is Foundation.

00:10:12And he would always play.

00:10:13He would kick our ass.

00:10:15He was like 40 years old and he would just murder us.

00:10:17It was I got rocked.

00:10:19Uh, so Magic Johnson's going to move on being Glenn Robinson.

00:10:22Next up, we have the four seed versus the 13 seed, the four seed from Auburn.

00:10:26Can you take one guess who it is?

00:10:28Chalkwagon, Charles motherfucking round mound of rebound.

00:10:32Charles Barkley is going up against the number 13 seed from Tennessee.

00:10:37This is a really tough one.

00:10:38I'll be honest, Tennessee, not a great, not a many great NBA alum.

00:10:43So I'll give you I'll give you two.

00:10:45I'll give you guys two options who you'd rather pick here.

00:10:47It's it's Tobias Harris or Allen Houston.

00:10:50Which one do you think would be better?

00:10:51You think Allen Houston versus Tobias Harris?

00:10:53Tobias Harris, deeper skill set probably than Allen Houston,

00:10:57but just throwing it out there.

00:10:59You think Allen Houston?

00:11:02I don't want to stay in Houston.

00:11:04I loved fucking Allen Houston of the Knicks, and he was just starting

00:11:07to really cook when his knee got completely fucked

00:11:10and he just became an albatross on the salary cap.

00:11:13So I'm kind of fine.

00:11:14I'll abstain, too, because I don't want to have to vote him out

00:11:17because I'm not going to vote against Charles Barkley right now.

00:11:19I don't think Tobias Harris has ever made an all star team

00:11:22when even it was on Detroit.

00:11:25I doubt it.

00:11:26OK, so let's say Allen Houston, just because I actually think they

00:11:29can interject something here, not to be like all the old guy

00:11:32historic Bernard King, if you want Bernard King.

00:11:34Yeah, I thought Clemson gets there would be shouting out for Bernard King.

00:11:38So I'm fine with Bernard King.

00:11:40I'm fine with Bernard King for sure.

00:11:42That's OK.

00:11:43You think with Bernard King in a one on one versus Barkley, though?

00:11:47No, he get fucking destroyed.

00:11:48But I think he's better than Allen Houston and the other guys.

00:11:51Let's I think for this purposes, Allen Houston would probably

00:11:54be the better matchup here.

00:11:56So let's say Allen Houston versus Charles Barkley in the start.

00:11:59Was Bernard King

00:12:01six, seven to five.

00:12:05Yeah, I don't know.

00:12:06He's just a tinier man.

00:12:07It's that would be a tougher one for second.

00:12:10I mean, he's probably bigger than Allen Houston.

00:12:12He had like three 50 point games in a row.

00:12:14I think at one point he was a scoring champion in eighty three.

00:12:18He averaged forty five.

00:12:20Jay, you said forty five.

00:12:21Yeah, thirty, thirty three points a game in eighty four.

00:12:24Eighty five.

00:12:25You guys, that's better.

00:12:26That's better than I don't think so.

00:12:27And he's second that MVP the year before, too.

00:12:29Yeah. You guys want Bernard King?

00:12:30We knew Bernard King.

00:12:31The problem is nobody's really watched Bernard King play.

00:12:34That's it. I've never heard of.

00:12:36There was a 30 for 30.

00:12:38Yeah. You've never heard of Bernard King.

00:12:40I don't think so.

00:12:42He was very good.

00:12:43Let's say let's say Charles Charles Barkley versus Allen Houston for this

00:12:45in this case, because I do think they probably they played against each other,

00:12:48at least for how many years?

00:12:50A decent why overlapped a decent gas over.

00:12:52Yeah. So let's start with you, Chief Allen Houston versus Charles Barkley.

00:12:56I think Charles Barkley is destroying Allen Houston.

00:12:59I think that his if you like watch the old clips,

00:13:02like even from last dance of Charles Barkley,

00:13:05he was the second best player in the NBA at his peak.

00:13:07We're talking about guys in their peak.

00:13:10He won an NBA MVP.

00:13:12Great rebounder, more athletic than people give him credit for

00:13:15because he got so fat, but he could do everything.

00:13:19So I think Barkley absolutely destroys Allen Houston.

00:13:22One for Charles Barkley, Dave.

00:13:25Barkley all day.

00:13:26Another one for Charles Barkley, Eddie.

00:13:30I think the only shot Allen Houston would have in this is if he got the ball first

00:13:34and if it was make it, take it.

00:13:36If not, I don't. It's to 11, though.

00:13:38It's not like what we did.

00:13:40No, I know. Oh, yeah, I got you.

00:13:41I got to make it. Take it.

00:13:42He gets a ball every time and he has to hit every shot.

00:13:45If not, he get absolutely eaten alive on the boards and Barkley clears him

00:13:48pretty easily.

00:13:50Barkley, Jay.

00:13:51Yeah, Barkley was the MVP in what?

00:13:54Ninety three. Yeah.

00:13:55Charles Barkley.

00:13:56Barkley, Clem.

00:13:58I got a picture of Allen Houston hitting that shot against Miami.

00:14:01It was probably the greatest moment about as a Knick fan

00:14:03because we don't have a lot of great moments is you fuckers in Chicago

00:14:07robbed us of most of those great moments.

00:14:10And I hate to do this, but like Ed says, like I do see a world

00:14:13where Houston could just keep hitting the two pointers and it has to make it.

00:14:16Let's just put this out in the open now.

00:14:18Let's establish rules.

00:14:19It's make it take it right.

00:14:20It's like winners out when we play it to 11.

00:14:22Well, I think it's make it take it.

00:14:24Yeah, it's got to be.

00:14:25That's how you play.

00:14:26It's just that's how you play. Yeah. Yeah.

00:14:28But that being and this is the other thing, too.

00:14:30So Charles Barkley, I was just looking at the stats here.

00:14:32I remember when he was a phoenix and he was able to like

00:14:34he started shooting threes and he won the MVP that year.

00:14:37I was like, oh, man, like he he must have been like incredible.

00:14:40A three 30.5 percent three point shooting, which was like good

00:14:44compared to like back then, especially a round about hitting that.

00:14:47But again, it's like there's certain like vibes with Purdue.

00:14:51It's going to be hard for me to vote against Barkley at any point

00:14:53because I just fucking love the guy so much.

00:14:55And I do think he would be a guy who would back the fuck out of you

00:14:58and just play dirty.

00:14:59This is if we're talking Pete Barkley.

00:15:01You know, I'm not a role model.

00:15:02I don't give a fuck through a guy through a play class window.

00:15:05I'm going Barkley.

00:15:06That guy deserved it.

00:15:07Yeah, definitely deserved it.

00:15:09Yeah. When I saw Auburn was on this, I obviously knew Barkley would be involved.

00:15:13And I was like, it's going to be hard to go against Charles Barkley

00:15:16because the Suns had some good role players whenever they they played

00:15:19the Bulls in the finals.

00:15:20But like Barkley just kind of did it on his own, you know, or less is him.

00:15:23Yeah. So I got to go Barkley.

00:15:25So Barkley is going to move on.

00:15:27Next up, we have the nine seed versus the eight seed.

00:15:29The nine seed is out of Florida.

00:15:31Florida was a tougher school, too, for the sake of one on one.

00:15:34I think the best for a one on one, if you're talking about the ability

00:15:38to do it all and also defend, you know what I mean?

00:15:42Probably could be Al Horford.

00:15:43So you could say Noah, but Noah can't really like Noah guarding

00:15:47someone in the perimeter.

00:15:48I don't know.

00:15:49You could you could also say Brad Beal at his height.

00:15:51What he gets when we're getting injured and all that,

00:15:53because he scored a fuck ton of points.

00:15:55But he's getting backed down by a lot of guys.

00:15:57So I think Al Horford is probably the go to for four.

00:15:59Is he still in the league?

00:16:01Yes. Al Horford.

00:16:02Yeah, he's on the Celtics.

00:16:04Yeah. And that's and he's going up against this.

00:16:08This guy might be a wagon.

00:16:10And I'm so happy that he ended up on this team.

00:16:12I had no idea.

00:16:13I had no clue where he went to college from Arkansas.

00:16:16Joe Johnson.

00:16:18Oh, one on one tournament.

00:16:20Oh, I so Joe.

00:16:21I saw Joe's a bucket.

00:16:23He's a bucket.

00:16:24I saw Joe versus Al Horford starting with you, Clem.

00:16:30Or sorry, if I went back, I went to reverse order Bibby.

00:16:35Maybe it's just I've seen more Al Horford.

00:16:39I loved him on the on the Gators.

00:16:40I'm going to go Al Horford on this.

00:16:42Al, I feel like he's he's just like a complete player.

00:16:45He can get in the post and he can shoot the three.

00:16:47He can do everything.

00:16:49And yeah, yeah.

00:16:50And I think he'd be better on defense, too.

00:16:52I'm going Al Horford.

00:16:53One for Al Horford, Clem.

00:16:56I think Joe Johnson is like the perfect dozen player, too.

00:16:59I feel like he's always in the at least one of the guesses,

00:17:02if not the answers for the dozen Al Horford.

00:17:05I feel like he's a guy that matches up better for like a team game

00:17:08than a one on one game.

00:17:10So and fuck it, like some of this stuff, you just got to have fun.

00:17:13I saw Joe's just fun.

00:17:14Let's throw ice and I'm going, I said, yeah, one for ISO Joe Che.

00:17:20I think it was maybe 2011, 2011, 12.

00:17:24It was right after he signed with Atlanta,

00:17:26where he had a string of like insane game winners.

00:17:30And that's where he got the nickname.

00:17:31I said, Joe, because they would just give it to him

00:17:33and they would just go for out and it would just be him against

00:17:36somebody else, the top of the key.

00:17:37And he would win way more often than not.

00:17:40I think my Instagram feed is like all basketball clips.

00:17:46I feel like ISO Joe is in either the big three

00:17:51or the tournament or some type of thing where he makes a living doing this now.

00:17:55So he's going to be hard to beat for me.

00:17:57I saw Joe. Another one for ISO Joe Eddie.

00:18:02You know, we're talking primes here, and obviously Horford is who he is now,

00:18:06but I think people forget just how good he was in Florida.

00:18:10Like he was awesome.

00:18:12Yeah, he was. He was awesome.

00:18:13I think this would be one of those games where.

00:18:18You know, obviously, like Joe Johnson would be the that the biggest.

00:18:22Well, we got a dozen interruption, you know, it's OK.

00:18:27I think it would be one of those games

00:18:28where obviously the whole public is all over ISO Joe.

00:18:32But I think Horford shocks people.

00:18:34I'm going to Horford.

00:18:35Wow. So we're two to two day.

00:18:39You got to go with Joe Johnson here.

00:18:40I L Horford's like one of those athletes

00:18:43that's had the perfect, perfect athletic career, like.

00:18:46You know, make make millions upon millions of dollars

00:18:49just being like pretty good, and he can write off into the sunset

00:18:53and be pretty forgettable at the same time, I love guys like that.

00:18:57He's been a league for like 18 years, just being steady.

00:19:01But one on one, he's getting absolutely torched by Joe Johnson.

00:19:06Another one arched for Joe Johnson.

00:19:09It's three to two in favor of Joe Johnson right now over Al Horford chief.

00:19:13I'm going ISO Joe, too.

00:19:15There was this clip.

00:19:17I can't remember what year it was.

00:19:18He's playing against Paul Pierce.

00:19:20He's got Paul Pierce on the printer.

00:19:21He makes Paul Pierce like fall down at his face on the floor,

00:19:24like crossed him up so bad and then got to the hole

00:19:28that in one on one plays.

00:19:30And if we're doing make it, take it.

00:19:31I don't think Al Horford can stay in front of him.

00:19:34I love Joe Johnson.

00:19:35He's like one of those guys.

00:19:36You're right, Clem.

00:19:37Like when you think back to that era and it's like, well, who averaged 28?

00:19:42You know, it's like it might have been Joe Johnson.

00:19:44It might have been.

00:19:45So I'm digging Joe Johnson.

00:19:47A little fun fact for you guys from Joe Johnson's basketball

00:19:49reference page, one of his nicknames, which I feel like they throw these

00:19:52in just to **** with people.

00:19:53Armadillo Cowboy. Don't remember that one.

00:19:56No, no, no, no, no **** way.

00:20:00Yeah, that clip with Paul Pierce actually rewatched that the other day.

00:20:02So I think it was through Jeff Teague's podcast or something.

00:20:06So **** good.

00:20:07Paul Pierce is like legit on his back, like of a crossover.

00:20:11It's insane.

00:20:12So Joe Johnson's going to move on.

00:20:14Now we have the one seed versus the 16, 16 seed.

00:20:17It's Texas Tech.

00:20:18Texas Tech has no players.

00:20:21There are no players out of Texas Tech.

00:20:23It's crazy.

00:20:24Patrick Mahomes best.

00:20:26The best basketball player out of Texas Tech is Jarrett Culver.

00:20:30And the honorable mention I can give you is like Matt McClung.

00:20:34Like there's really there's nothing there.

00:20:37Jesus. Like so.

00:20:38I think for this, I don't know if I want to Culver or McClung,

00:20:41but like I guess Culver.

00:20:43I'm being two on one.

00:20:44If you put Patrick Mahomes in there, would he be a better option than

00:20:48very potentially?

00:20:48Maybe not McClung. I don't know.

00:20:49But but they're going up against it in this one.

00:20:52I want to do a play in for first because the number one seed is Kentucky.

00:20:56And there are simply too many good players from Kentucky

00:20:58for me to just arbitrarily pick one.

00:21:00So I really wanted first to let you guys decide who will be representing Kentucky.

00:21:05So there's I believe I've picked six players to choose from.

00:21:09Anthony Davis, who would be my personal.

00:21:11That's the guy I would pick because he can do literally everything in his prime.

00:21:14You can shoot threes.

00:21:15You can play inside, play outside.

00:21:16You can defend. You can play everywhere.

00:21:18It's the best.

00:21:19And like you do, Shay Carl Anthony Towns,

00:21:23DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, Devin Booker.

00:21:27I think that's the grouping we'll go with.

00:21:29So we'll say Anthony Davis, Shay

00:21:32Carl Anthony Towns, DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, Devin Booker.

00:21:36So let's start, chief.

00:21:38Which one of those would you want to represent Kentucky?

00:21:41I would probably go Davis from that from that crew.

00:21:44Yeah. Just for the ability in all positions.

00:21:46Yeah. And he's so long and like he he's one of those guys.

00:21:50I might have this wrong, but I think he was like six three

00:21:53as like a sophomore in high school.

00:21:54He's a Chicago kid.

00:21:55Yeah. And grew like seven or eight inches.

00:21:58So he had guard skills

00:22:01and then just grew into a dominant center.

00:22:04So I'll go Anthony Davis, Dave.

00:22:08So someone brought up the what is it called?

00:22:10The big three, I think she brought it up.

00:22:12I actually went to that a couple of summers back and it was really cool.

00:22:17And you want guards in this exact exercise.

00:22:23So I'm going to go with John Wall for this one.

00:22:25John Wall is one of the most explosive athletes

00:22:28I've ever seen across all four major sports.

00:22:31That guy's first step off the dribble was fucking absurd.

00:22:36Like Derrick Rose. Good.

00:22:37So, I mean, Anthony Davis, obviously better career, probably

00:22:43plays more positions, blah, blah, blah.

00:22:45For this, I want to I want to see guards.

00:22:46I want John Wall.

00:22:47Give me John Wall. Eddie.

00:22:50John Wall. John Wall.

00:22:53So he was a pop culture icon, too.

00:22:54Yeah, that too.

00:22:56So we're doing the plane.

00:22:57So Kentucky's the one seed.

00:22:58But I didn't want to arbitrarily pick one because there's just too many good players.

00:23:01So I want you guys to pick who represents Kentucky.

00:23:03So the options are Anthony Davis, Shay, Carl Anthony Towns,

00:23:06to Marcus Cousins, John Wall and Devin Booker.

00:23:08Right now, it is two votes for John Wall, two votes for Anthony Davis.

00:23:12Oh. I put Jamal Mashburn in there, too.

00:23:16Mashburn, also, yeah, he was up there.

00:23:18Wait, Twan. And Twan, too.

00:23:20Yeah. Yeah.

00:23:21I mean, if we're talking about fun was awesome at the peak of their powers.

00:23:27At the peak of their power for one on one, Antoine Walker

00:23:29might be the actual real choice.

00:23:31So, hey, dude, his first step in the like

00:23:35go look like early rookie at the employee number eight Antoine days.

00:23:39Boy, number eight of their powers.

00:23:41I think it's Boogie Cousins.

00:23:43You go with Boogie. OK. Yeah.

00:23:46He can shoot. He's huge.

00:23:47He's like six, ten, six, eleven, like two fifty, two sixty.

00:23:52He can shoot. He can back you down.

00:23:54He's going to be hard to beat.

00:23:56He got derailed by injuries, but he was a he averaged like twenty five

00:24:01for the Kings pretty steadily.

00:24:02And then they traded him because he wanted a better situation

00:24:05and went to the Pelicans and got hurt.

00:24:06And his career was pretty much done.

00:24:08He would be the scariest one to play against, for sure.

00:24:11He's a nut job.

00:24:12That counts for something. And what does it does?

00:24:15Fact, Clem.

00:24:18Boogie nickname is a great nickname, too.

00:24:20There was I think like if we're going peak of the powers

00:24:24and again in college to Mashburn and then some of those Kentucky teams

00:24:28are awesome.

00:24:29Fucking Antoine got drafted as a six man support.

00:24:32Syracuse had no chance in that guy in

00:24:35John Wallace.

00:24:36Yeah, John Wallace.

00:24:38I love that.

00:24:39This is so much more of a debate versus who they're going to smash on.

00:24:42Yeah, we have to.

00:24:44Yeah, we have to let Culver and McClung, like you said, play together.

00:24:47Two on one.

00:24:48There was a series, I remember, where Anthony Davis

00:24:51I think was against the Warriors, where he put together like a quadruple

00:24:54some ridiculous like quadruple double or something.

00:24:56He was hitting threes in the corner.

00:24:58I think I hurt.

00:24:59But it was like at that point is a holy shit.

00:25:01Like, I don't know if I've ever seen a guy like that before.

00:25:03So I think if we're just going on like ceiling,

00:25:06I don't think anyone ever hit that point.

00:25:08So I'm going to go 80 based on that.

00:25:0980. Fair.

00:25:11Yeah, I liked it.

00:25:12Everyone said about cousins.

00:25:14He's I want someone who's mean.

00:25:15I want someone who's got a little edge.

00:25:17And I think A.D.'s like

00:25:20someone you'd create in a lab.

00:25:22But I don't think he has the edge that that DeMarcus Cousins has.

00:25:24I want to I want a little bit of a crazy person on my team.

00:25:26So I'm taking him.

00:25:27So we have two for Anthony Davis, two for DeMarcus Cousins, two for John Wall,

00:25:32which means I have to break the tie.

00:25:36Ken Jack, if if we vote bogey in,

00:25:39can there be a baseball bat on the floor?

00:25:41But he doesn't start with it.

00:25:42It's like on the ground.

00:25:43So anyone can get it.

00:25:44Anyone can grab it. Yes.

00:25:46You're telling me Matt McClung could grab the baseball bat,

00:25:50but that boy could take it and bash him with it.

00:25:52I think he could beat him without the baseball bat.

00:25:53I think McClung with a baseball bat has less of a chance.

00:25:56That's true. Versus him barehanded.

00:25:59You do want guards in a one on one competition,

00:26:01but I do think Davis is like the rare big who like you guys were saying,

00:26:05like started as a guard, went to went to large.

00:26:07But also DeMarcus Cousins, like the picture of him

00:26:11like try with a cat to his back where he's just like cats trying so hard.

00:26:16To back him down, and he can't even budge.

00:26:18And DeMarcus Cousins is staring at him like, why? What are you doing?

00:26:21It's so funny. He's so fucking mean.

00:26:25You know what? I'll go to DeMarcus Cousins.

00:26:26He's basically like a worse Anthony Davis.

00:26:29I hate to say that he's because he's an incredible player.

00:26:31But like Anthony Davis does everything DeMarcus Cousins can do,

00:26:33except a little bit better.

00:26:35But I'd go. I'll go with DeMarcus Cousins.

00:26:36Can I can I ask that to the group?

00:26:38Do you do you want to guard over a big man?

00:26:40Because, yeah, the speed in the outside is good.

00:26:42But if you have a big man, you just back him down and just put it right up.

00:26:45What do you guys think?

00:26:47Yeah, it's I think it's partially like you want the offensive abilities important.

00:26:50But also, can you defend?

00:26:51Because if you can't defend, then you're just fucked anyway.

00:26:52For sure. For sure.

00:26:53Yeah. You have to be able to get to the spot as a big, though, too,

00:26:56because no one's throwing it into you at the post. Right.

00:26:59Someone said that with Horford.

00:27:00Like, yeah, he'd probably be too slow to, you know, even guard Joe Johnson.

00:27:04Yeah. And it's interesting.

00:27:06So DeMarcus Cousins is going to move on and play.

00:27:08This is Jay where Texas Tech was tough to figure out.

00:27:11But we're ending up with, I will say, Jared Culver is the best.

00:27:14Got to come out of Texas Tech.

00:27:16It's him or McClung. And that's literally it.

00:27:17That's the only two players to come out of that school.

00:27:19I don't see like no point in even doing this.

00:27:21Yeah. Is there any we just say DeMarcus Cousins move straight on?

00:27:25I kind of like I kind of like this idea of just throw my homes in there.

00:27:28Didn't he have like a viral high school basketball video?

00:27:31Probably. And then everyone was like, look at look at him do that.

00:27:34Wow. He did that chest pass.

00:27:36Oh, my God. No one can do that.

00:27:38Fucking dove climbing, posting it like, wow, he was a problem.

00:27:41He was unbelievable.

00:27:42Hey, easy. Well, hey, well, just don't.

00:27:45Dove is a new guy now. Oh, all right. I thought I'm an old dove rider.

00:27:48Once he sold his account, where is right now? Sticks.

00:27:51I thought I was like 15 people writing it.

00:27:52Just posting rage bait, basically.

00:27:55Yeah, it's all bait now.

00:27:56So we'll just move on to Marcus Cousins. Lucky guy.

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00:28:59All right. Other side of the bracket, we have the 11 seed Arizona.

00:29:02Arizona is a bit of a tougher one, too, to kind of choose from.

00:29:05But I went with Gilbert Arenas.

00:29:06I feel like he's going to be the best option to come.

00:29:08As far as like a one on one tournament is that that feels fair, right?

00:29:11Yeah. Is there really not a lot of other like all time players

00:29:13come out of Arizona like Mike Bibby?

00:29:15Yeah, like Bibby's Bibby in a one on one versus Gilbert Arenas is a one on one guy.

00:29:20Eric Williams. But yeah, probably.

00:29:22Give me give me TJ McConnell.

00:29:24TJ McConnell all day.

00:29:26All day over this dude.

00:29:28And what about Jack's baby, too?

00:29:29Have you seen new baby where he's jacked out of his fucking mind?

00:29:31He looks like a double dragon character, which no one's going to get.

00:29:34Who listens to this guy?

00:29:35It's an old ass reference.

00:29:36That's coach baby now to you.

00:29:38And he's going up against the number six seed from Michigan.

00:29:42Chris Webber, I think, is a pretty fucking good option

00:29:44to go up against in a one on one tournament.

00:29:45You don't want to.

00:29:46That's a mean guy, too.

00:29:47You don't want to play up against that play against him.

00:29:49You can say, like, can I throw out one other name for Michigan?

00:29:52See what the group says. Shoot it.

00:29:54Jamal Crawford.

00:29:55Fuck, I didn't even for this one.

00:29:58They'd be perfect.

00:29:59Yeah, I think. I think you're right.

00:30:01I think that's fine with me.

00:30:03Oh, I'm fine with Jamal Crawford.

00:30:05Oh, so I actually made this comment during a stream,

00:30:08I think, on Friday or Thursday.

00:30:10I think that right now.

00:30:14Franz Wagner is the third best player to ever come out of Michigan.

00:30:17Wow. Right now.

00:30:19And I think he has the potential to be the best behind behind

00:30:23Chris Webber and Glenn, right?

00:30:24You're saying to the pros, right?

00:30:26I'm taking like, yes, resume.

00:30:28Because obviously Jamal Crawford was better.

00:30:31In college, in college, yes, exactly.

00:30:33But like NBA career, Juan Howard, I mean, yeah, for a long time.

00:30:38I don't think so. Like how many memorable moments?

00:30:42Jalen Rose, Jalen Rose.

00:30:44I'm putting Franz Wagner with both of those guys.

00:30:47I don't know today's NBA, so I can't argue with you.

00:30:51Really good year this year.

00:30:52Yeah, it's been better.

00:30:54Jamal Crawford didn't get hurt.

00:30:55Jamal Crawford, one of the all time great crossover artists in NBA history.

00:30:58Was Jamal Crawford the one that dunked on LeBron in like a summer camp

00:31:02and then they like hit it?

00:31:04Who was that?

00:31:05I think it was Jordan Crawford.

00:31:06OK, all right. All right.

00:31:08They like destroyed the tape shot into the sun.

00:31:11They got rid of it.

00:31:12I love stories like that because it's either it's either that,

00:31:15like that urban legend, like the tape gets destroyed or it's like,

00:31:18I think O.J. Mayo before he went to the USC or whatever.

00:31:21Like they say he played Jordan and Jordan just beat him like 15 nothing

00:31:24like and didn't even break a sweat.

00:31:26Yeah. Jordan was like 52.

00:31:27Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:29And I did him.

00:31:30Uh, so let's say again, Gilbert Arenas, most famous Jamal Crawford

00:31:34from Michigan Arenas from Arizona.

00:31:36Let's start with you, Bibsy.

00:31:38That's tough. I feel like both these guys are pretty.

00:31:41Even, but I Gilbert Arenas, great nickname, Agent Zero.

00:31:46What a what an awesome nickname.

00:31:49I'm going to take Gilbert Arenas.

00:31:50One for Gilbert Arenas.

00:31:53Let's go to Clem.

00:31:55To warn you, these are two.

00:31:56I mean, Hibachi, great fucking.

00:31:58Oh, yeah. Agent Zero.

00:32:02And now we're doing Crawford is Crawford over Crawford.

00:32:05Yeah, this is the thing.

00:32:07And I think a lot of like if it's if it's this close, it comes a toss up.

00:32:11Gilbert Arenas, I feel like he does like rage bait

00:32:13fucking takes these days. Oh, yeah.

00:32:15Hey, people like that.

00:32:16So because of that, I'm going to take him, even though Jamal Crawford

00:32:20was like the best no, no, no.

00:32:21Yes, guy of all time.

00:32:23Yeah, I'm sure you agree.

00:32:24That's like he would the next to be down one with like 20 on the shot clock.

00:32:28And it would always be a 28 footer with like a guy in his face

00:32:31because he just didn't want to, like, go to the rim or do anything else.

00:32:33I feel like an old man just saying that.

00:32:34But I was saying that when I was younger, too.

00:32:36So I'm going to go with Jamal Crawford just because I don't like Gilbert

00:32:39Arenas personally as a human.

00:32:41Another another one that factors.

00:32:44Yes. So one for Jamal Crawford, Che.

00:32:49It's tough because they're kind of similar players.

00:32:52I think Arenas is a little bit more.

00:32:56Uh, I think he his.

00:33:00I think he's done this more, maybe just.

00:33:02I think that he he's I think he's talked about his like gambling

00:33:07while in the NBA, whether it be a one on one or other things.

00:33:11But then Jamal Crawford is also like an unfeasible guy who you just can't guard.

00:33:16My issue is both of them like.

00:33:20Are streaky, too.

00:33:21Um. I'll go with with the hometown guy, Jamal Crawford,

00:33:26too, for Jamal Crawford, Eddie.

00:33:30Yeah, I mean.

00:33:32I miss the Jordan era and the P.A.

00:33:35announcer always saying runner in the lane, Jamal Crawford

00:33:38is like burning in my brain forever.

00:33:41But I do feel like whereas Clem said it's a

00:33:46a vote against Gilbert Arenas for being that guy.

00:33:48I do think having that dog in, you know, helps in one on one.

00:33:53And I think Arenas being a dickhead is a good thing.

00:33:56So I'm going to go.

00:33:56Arenas get like the rationale there, two to two, Dave.

00:34:01To Eddie's point, we did this body armor thing with Jamal Crawford last summer,

00:34:06and he was like the nicest guy of all time.

00:34:10And he doesn't play defense, though, either.

00:34:14Was he not known for being horrifically bad on defense or am I crazy?

00:34:19Both of them.

00:34:20I think they both are.

00:34:20Yeah, they're both.

00:34:22Oh, yeah.

00:34:22This should be a quick game.

00:34:23This could be very quick.

00:34:24Yeah, right.

00:34:25It's just 11 straight buckets.

00:34:27Um, I'm going to go with Gilbert Arenas because he is that dickhead,

00:34:30even though I don't know exactly why.

00:34:31I didn't know he was a rage bait artist, but I'm going to go with Gilbert Arenas.

00:34:37Ken Jack, do we have a potential Arenas versus

00:34:39Cousins matchup coming up on the bracket if he wins?

00:34:42There is. They are on opposite sides.

00:34:43It could happen.

00:34:44Oh, so it's not like next round.

00:34:46They can't run.

00:34:47We're on the left side.

00:34:48We're on the left side of the back for now on the right side.

00:34:49So they could in the finals match up against each other.

00:34:52Because, I mean, Gilbert did have the infamous gun incident.

00:34:54Then we're matching that up with with with Demarcus Cousins

00:34:58is a wild potential here.

00:35:00So we are three for Arenas, two for Crawford right now, chief.

00:35:05I'm going Jamal Crawford.

00:35:08He's sixth man of the year, three different times.

00:35:11All three of those times he won it, he was over the age of 30

00:35:15because and he played for 19 years because he could always just score.

00:35:20If you needed a bucket, he would always get you one.

00:35:23The longevity, I think, matters for this.

00:35:26His handle, I think, was better than than Gilbert Arenas is, too.

00:35:29So I'm taking Jamal Crawford.

00:35:31So that means we're tied up and I have to break it.

00:35:34And I think that I would also go for Jamal Crawford.

00:35:37I get the niceness factor of it.

00:35:39But I do think he also didn't have like a 50 point game

00:35:41when he was like, yeah, 39 or something like that.

00:35:44Right, Jay? Yeah.

00:35:45Or so if I'm I think you're correct, actually.

00:35:49Yeah, I think I remember something like that, too.

00:35:52There was a game in like 2007 or eight where he made,

00:35:57I think it was 16 shots in a row in the game.

00:36:00And like once it got to

00:36:03like eight, people were going crazy when he had the ball.

00:36:06So, yeah, Jamal Crawford is a tough shot maker.

00:36:09He is. He was a beast.

00:36:10And he had the crossover, which I believe I would say was better than Arenas is.

00:36:14And their Twitter handle name is J.

00:36:15Crossover. Yeah, literally.

00:36:16He's just he's so fucking good. I'd go with Crawford.

00:36:20So our next matchup is the three seed versus the 14 seed.

00:36:23This is a tough match, but there's really nothing I could do here.

00:36:26It's our number three seed from Houston.

00:36:29Take a guess who's going to be dream going to be Hakeem, the dream.

00:36:32Clyde Clyde Clyde.

00:36:33So Clyde, the Clyde was that's the only other option here.

00:36:35But when I was thinking about it, like who who even made that little mini

00:36:39matchup out of a one on one, right?

00:36:40Clyde Hakeem beats Clyde ten out of ten times.

00:36:42Yeah. Yeah. That was tough.

00:36:43One of even rational.

00:36:45This is when a big man beats a guard, right?

00:36:47Yeah. And that's going up against number 14 seed again.

00:36:51Not much I could do here, BYU.

00:36:52Yeah. Yeah. You're stuck with Jimmer.

00:36:55Oh, yeah. Jimmer.

00:36:56Don't you fucking apologize for throwing Jimmer versus Hakeem Olajuwon?

00:37:01Yeah, that's tough.

00:37:02I'm going to go with Jimmer.

00:37:04Oh, no. You know what?

00:37:06Hold on to it, then.

00:37:07So let's it's going to be Hakeem Olajuwon versus Jimmer for debt.

00:37:12This is going to be. Am I starting it off?

00:37:14I think we have to go reverse ordering.

00:37:15So she's going to go, OK, OK, yeah.

00:37:17So chief Hakeem Olajuwon versus I'm going to dream.

00:37:21I have a faint memory of there were supposed to be a pay per view

00:37:25one on one game between Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaquille O'Neal, like 1995.

00:37:30Something like that. I was little.

00:37:32And then I think Shaq or something got hurt in the summer and they couldn't do it.

00:37:35But like Hakeem was down for one on one.

00:37:40And I think the footwork, the length, the shot making Hakeem is

00:37:44he's like the smoothest big man of all time.

00:37:47I'm taking Hakeem one for Hakeem, the dream, Dave.

00:37:52Jimmer, Jimmer.

00:37:54I'm going Jimmer because he's not going to miss one on one.

00:37:58He's one of those guys that like could try to miss

00:38:02and wouldn't miss.

00:38:03He but in like a practice setting, he has like an eight foot wingspan.

00:38:08He'll shoot from half court then.

00:38:11He won't. He will not miss that.

00:38:14You I mean, you've seen those guys, you've seen those guys,

00:38:16you've played in those guys and pick up basketball.

00:38:20Yeah, yeah, yes.

00:38:21But like he's playing against Hakeem Olajuwon, not you.

00:38:23You know, I mean, he's going to be if he misses one shot.

00:38:27Just trust me. Just trust me.

00:38:29Jimmer here. It's done.

00:38:31Eddie.

00:38:34Is it crazy to say that I don't think Dave is crazy?

00:38:38No, I'm only being half.

00:38:40You've been agreeing with Dave a lot on this show.

00:38:43I know. Well, I can't.

00:38:44He's trying to sell me crypto at that fucking headset on

00:38:49bumping aetherium.

00:38:53I like I need a history.

00:38:54I know how good Hakeem Olajuwon was.

00:38:56Don't get me wrong.

00:38:58I understand he's also known as like being somewhat over underrated

00:39:02considering, you know, who he played against and how good he was.

00:39:07But how good was he at guarding the perimeter?

00:39:09He was defensive player of the year.

00:39:11I think multiple times.

00:39:12But because he was stopping people the whole or did he ever have to guard

00:39:15the perimeter because that was back with the traditional big man?

00:39:17Yeah, that's true.

00:39:19The seven footer just staying in the paint, let them be employed.

00:39:21You know, he was known for his footwork.

00:39:25Yeah. He grew up playing soccer.

00:39:27He averaged one point seven steals a season.

00:39:29He was an absolute monster.

00:39:31Yeah, he got you every single way.

00:39:34He would be like Anthony Davis is now on defense.

00:39:37OK, then you guys sold me.

00:39:39I'm I'm going to go to the dream to for Hakeem Che.

00:39:44I don't think it's crazy to say Jimmer has a shot, because if he gets the ball,

00:39:48he's like Alan Hewson.

00:39:49Like I said, if he gets he checked, make it, take it.

00:39:51I think even worse without him, like because Jimmer can shoot from like 30 feet.

00:39:54For sure.

00:39:55So but, you know, in a game to whatever it is, 15, 21,

00:39:58you're assuming he's going to miss a couple of times from there with Hakeem on him.

00:40:02And Hakeem is one of the best defenders of all time.

00:40:04So when Hakeem gets the ball in the post, it's going to be game over.

00:40:07He even well past his retirement, he would

00:40:12big guys would fly down to see him.

00:40:14Clem, they talked about this all the time with like Amari Stoudemire.

00:40:16It's like you're flying down to spend the summer with Hakeem, like learn post moves

00:40:19like this guy pretty much invented post footwork.

00:40:22So Hakeem Olajuwon.

00:40:25Another one for Hakeem Olajuwon.

00:40:27Clem.

00:40:28I think I just heard of someone like this summer.

00:40:30It's like he still does the dream camp, basically.

00:40:33He's one of those guys that like, I think growing up, I kind of appreciate him.

00:40:37And then I started playing fantasy basketball.

00:40:39And the guy was, I mean, two steals a game, three, four, four blocks a game.

00:40:44Fucking 25 and 14.

00:40:46It's it's out of this world.

00:40:48And like you said, his footwork was so good.

00:40:50He like I he could dribble.

00:40:53He's so I don't know who could beat Hakeem.

00:40:55I think Hakeem is going to win this whole fucking tournament, at least in my mind.

00:40:59Jimmer, I'm trying to tuck myself in the jimmer.

00:41:01I think if he was against any other player, I'd pick Jimmer just out of my love for him.

00:41:05But Hakeem, again, he could play on the ball, too.

00:41:07So and also, Chief, you unlocked a fucking childhood memory with that one on one.

00:41:13I looked it up. It was a Taco Bell.

00:41:15It was supposed to be a Taco Bell promotion at the Trump Taj Mahal.

00:41:19They were hosting it in Atlantic City.

00:41:21And then it said someone said Hakeem dropped out.

00:41:23I remember Shaq dropping. Yeah.

00:41:25But this person on Reddit said Shaq.

00:41:27So I remember Hakeem.

00:41:28And no one ever lies on the Internet, right?

00:41:30So that was a fucking there's a shirt on sale.

00:41:34Two hundred dollars for Hakeem versus Shaq Taco Bell.

00:41:38So I might have to purchase that if they if they've got an XL there, Clem,

00:41:41you just send me the receipt, OK?

00:41:44That's like the most 90s headline of all time.

00:41:46Hakeem or Shaq at the Taj Mahal.

00:41:48They need to get back to those kind of promotional events.

00:41:52Yeah, like that's sweet.

00:41:53I would have tuned into that is that I would have bought a Taco Bell taco

00:41:56because of it is the chihuahua on the shirt.

00:41:58Oh, it has to be a chihuahua.

00:42:00Oh, I don't think so.

00:42:02And they're just like towering over him. That'd be good.

00:42:04Yeah. Like Hakeem was the most dominant like he in the mid 90s,

00:42:08which was like that golden era of centers.

00:42:10Robinson, Ewing, Alonzo, Mourning, Shaq.

00:42:15He was still the best one.

00:42:17So. Two championships, it has to be Hakeem.

00:42:21Hakeem, Bibsy.

00:42:22I I was kind of in the same page as as Dave and Eddie

00:42:26there at first with Jimmer for that, like this is this is March Madness bracket.

00:42:30You got to have the the underdog, undersized white guy who can shoot.

00:42:35Yeah. Making it.

00:42:36But they sold me on Hakeem.

00:42:39I yeah, I wasn't I wasn't familiar with his game, with his footwork.

00:42:43So I'll give it to Hakeem.

00:42:45Hakeem Olajuwon has.

00:42:47I I think I correctly got this.

00:42:49I'm having trouble searching.

00:42:50He has two career triple quadruple doubles.

00:42:53Jesus. The staff lines from one of them.

00:42:5518 points, 16 rebounds, 11 blocks, 10 assists.

00:42:59The other one, 29 points.

00:43:01He really was underrated.

00:43:0311 blocks. That's crazy.

00:43:05I never I never knew he was known as this like silky smooth guy.

00:43:09Oh, yeah. You guys are describing the dream, man.

00:43:12Yeah, the dream.

00:43:13His shake was like that.

00:43:14He's like it was a dream shake is the dream shake.

00:43:17The dream shake. Yeah.

00:43:18People say Jordan retired because he didn't want to face

00:43:20one of the finals those two years. He knew it was coming.

00:43:23Yeah. And people don't say that.

00:43:25Yeah. No one's ever said that.

00:43:26Anyone of the weirder one of the weirder name changes ever.

00:43:30He added an H to his name.

00:43:33He was drafted as Akeem, A-K-E-E-M.

00:43:36Later in his career, changed and started his name.

00:43:38Start with an H.

00:43:40Yeah, I think he rolls off the tongue.

00:43:42That's a little fun fact, Steven.

00:43:43Yeah. So he came.

00:43:45The dream is going to move on.

00:43:46Now we have the 10 seat versus the seven seat, the 10 seat from Maryland.

00:43:51It's got to be Steve Francis.

00:43:52There's not many other choices to run from from Maryland is basically it.

00:43:55So Steve Francis is going to be going up against the number seven seed.

00:43:59This is a little bit dicier.

00:44:01So it's Alabama and Alabama has they have a lot of players that went to Alabama.

00:44:07The Sprewell, Gerald Wallace, Anthony McDice, Mo Williams,

00:44:11even like more modern players like Brandon Miller.

00:44:14Colin Sexton, probably out of all these players, has the best NBA career.

00:44:19But I just don't know how good he would be at NBA one on one.

00:44:22Brandon Miller would probably be the best.

00:44:25What do you think, Chaz?

00:44:26The most modern NBA watcher?

00:44:27I would take Brandon Miller over Sexton.

00:44:29Yeah. No love for Spree.

00:44:32One on one.

00:44:34I mean, I'm just saying that's player.

00:44:37Spree or Dice.

00:44:37Colin Sexton, you don't think Colin Sexton is a good one on one guy?

00:44:41OK, he's tiny.

00:44:42He's like he doesn't typically start for the Jazz.

00:44:45He's going to be like their sixth man.

00:44:47Cavs dumped him quick.

00:44:48Yeah. Brandon Miller is like six to Brandon Miller is like

00:44:52you would not want to play him one on one.

00:44:53He's and he's also like a mental like we were talking about before.

00:44:56Mentality guy.

00:44:57That's I mean, I feel like a mean spirited guy.

00:45:00You don't want to play.

00:45:01So we'll say Brandon Miller then.

00:45:02So Brandon Miller versus Steve Francis from Maryland.

00:45:06Let's start with you, Bibsy.

00:45:07The franchise, I'm just glad you didn't say Juan Dixon.

00:45:11I thought about it.

00:45:12That would have killed me.

00:45:13But then him and Jared Jeffries were both on the Wizards together.

00:45:15And that was awesome.

00:45:17I want to say the franchise, but he's only six three.

00:45:19He's really short compared to anything.

00:45:21Yeah. And he's going up against Brandon Miller, you said.

00:45:23Yeah. Brandon Miller's what?

00:45:24Six, eight.

00:45:26Definitely taller.

00:45:27I mean, I think six, nine, six, nine.

00:45:29According to basketball reference.

00:45:31Yeah. Yeah.

00:45:34I'm going to you know what?

00:45:35I stick with the gut.

00:45:36The franchise was like the first player I was like playing with in NBA 2K.

00:45:41I'm sticking with him.

00:45:42He's got the moves.

00:45:43He'll figure it out.

00:45:44One dog. One for the franchise.

00:45:46Glenn, without diving too deep into like the numbers or looking up the highlights,

00:45:51I feel like Stevie franchise at his absolute peak could dunk from anywhere

00:45:55on the court over Brandon Miller for every single point if he had to.

00:45:59So Steve Francis, Steve Francis was like a comet.

00:46:01I I still don't know what happened to him, but holy shit.

00:46:04Was he incredible when he was at his best?

00:46:07He was like the forgotten guy from that epic dunk contest

00:46:10with T-Mac and Vince Carter and like Francis fucking put up a show himself.

00:46:14So I'm going Stevie French again.

00:46:17The names are going to sell me.

00:46:18I'm not a Brandon Miller guy.

00:46:19Spree might have been a little tougher, but I still think I got to choose

00:46:22Francis no matter what.

00:46:23Two for Steve Francis, Jay.

00:46:28This is tough because Steve

00:46:30Francis made his living like an isolation basketball.

00:46:33The maybe it's recency bias.

00:46:35I mean, see, France, I think at some point average like twenty three,

00:46:38twenty four points a game, like he was a really good player.

00:46:41Brandon Miller just kind of has what you want.

00:46:44Like he's defensive.

00:46:46He can shoot.

00:46:46He has a very similar game to Paul George, who he said it was his goat.

00:46:50If you want to have a fun watch, just search like Brandon Miller dunk

00:46:55because the the Hornets play by play guy, Eric Collins,

00:47:00like loses his mind every smallest thing.

00:47:02And when Brandon Miller actually dunks on someone, you think he's having

00:47:05like a seizure.

00:47:07It's it's such an incredible call.

00:47:09So I'm going to go.

00:47:09Brandon Miller won for Brandon Miller.

00:47:12Also, Steve Francis to me.

00:47:13I don't know if you guys agree with this.

00:47:14He's the first player I associate as being a guy that like once his NBA career

00:47:17dried up, like really went overseas to China and became like the face of China,

00:47:21like a Chinese expat basketball, I guess.

00:47:24Him and him and Marbury Marbury Marbury Marbury.

00:47:26So I'm thinking of, yeah, maybe Marbury something of.

00:47:28Yes. Yes. Because the shoes.

00:47:30Yeah. Yeah. Interchangeable a little bit.

00:47:32Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:33Two for Francis, one for Brandon Miller. Eddie.

00:47:38Man, I want to say the franchise, because that was my era of basketball

00:47:42and he was awesome, but I just think the measurables on Brandon Miller.

00:47:46Kind of too tough to pass up when it comes to one on one.

00:47:48So I'm going to go.

00:47:49Brandon Miller is Tino Mobley rooting Steve Francis on during this

00:47:54during this matchup, because I feel like that does make a difference.

00:47:56That's like his superpower.

00:47:57No, but Calvin Cato's there.

00:48:02Two to two right now, Dave.

00:48:05I want to go with Francis.

00:48:07He just is like in my head, he's just awesome.

00:48:09I so nobody can could stop him.

00:48:12So that means three for Steve Francis, two for Brandon Miller, chief.

00:48:17I won't lie to you guys, I found out who Brandon Miller was 30 seconds ago.

00:48:23I was not familiar with him, so I'm going with Stevie Franchise.

00:48:28Stevie Franchise is going to move on, beating Brandon Miller.

00:48:32So now we have the two seed versus the 15 seed.

00:48:35The two seed.

00:48:36So the two seeds, Duke Duke has obviously a ton,

00:48:39ton of players to choose from.

00:48:42Probably the best if you're talking an overall talent player is Tatum.

00:48:47Tatum is not a one on one guy like in my brain.

00:48:49He's just kind of a pussy like I do.

00:48:50I don't think of him as a kid.

00:48:52Definitely one on one guy, you know, is, though,

00:48:55Kyrie Irving, Kyrie Irving's

00:48:56and not a guy you ever want to play in one on one basketball.

00:48:58I don't care your size. I don't care your skill set.

00:49:01He's not a guy you ever want to see one on one ever.

00:49:03And he's going up against the number 15 seed.

00:49:07Another school, not a lot to offer as far as NBA talent goes, Ole Miss.

00:49:12Ole Miss, the best player I could really think of from Ole Miss

00:49:16was Marshall Henderson.

00:49:17Oh, come on, Shark.

00:49:20Marshall Henderson is the best player to really to come out of Ole Miss

00:49:22and he didn't even play like NBA.

00:49:24He played in like Iraq after he graduated college.

00:49:27Not even joking.

00:49:28He played in like, yeah, occupied Iraq.

00:49:31He played basketball in Iraq.

00:49:33So that's all the core.

00:49:34Yeah. So Kyrie Irving versus Marshall Henderson.

00:49:39And I would say this to our point earlier with the gym and all that.

00:49:43These guys more size comparable.

00:49:46And when Marshall Henderson was hot, man, he was in everything.

00:49:49Every shot he took was going in just throwing it out there.

00:49:51So we'll start with you, Chief. Kyrie Irving versus Marshall Henderson.

00:49:54I think. What?

00:49:57All right. Sorry to cut you off, chief, but I.

00:50:00If anyone takes Marshall Henderson over Kyrie Irving,

00:50:03like shut down the show, shut down the company.

00:50:07Yeah. I mean, he is one of those guys that.

00:50:12He doesn't miss the best ball handler of all.

00:50:15I know it's the only I mean, he should be March to the finals

00:50:19in this in this bracket.

00:50:22So you're going Kyrie, Chief?

00:50:24Yeah. Yes, I'm going Kyrie. Kyrie.

00:50:27That's even better odds than cheaper city.

00:50:32Eddie. Kyrie. Kyrie J.

00:50:36Here's a question. What is Kyrie's peak?

00:50:39That's a great question.

00:50:40I would say him.

00:50:44Maybe like the year before LeBron, I would say, or maybe the first year of LeBron.

00:50:50What do you think?

00:50:51It's Cavs for sure.

00:50:53Yeah. Summer after he hit that shot, because I saw a lot of videos

00:50:56and Kyrie was at the peak of human existence, basically.

00:50:59He was having a lot of parties, a lot of fun.

00:51:01Yeah, it's Cavs. Yeah.

00:51:03What would you say, Jay? Kyrie.

00:51:05Yeah, I meant more like what do you think?

00:51:07Oh, what is the peak?

00:51:11That Brooklyn team was really good, but they were never all healthy together.

00:51:14It was top time in the NBA when he was with the Cavs.

00:51:17Yes, for sure. Yes.

00:51:19Yeah. The championship year, you know, the shot game seven. That's.

00:51:24Well, that's the biggest shot in NBA history.

00:51:27It's up there.

00:51:28Yeah. What was the summer where he was doing

00:51:32USA basketball stuff is like the B team.

00:51:34Oh, with like Kobe talking to him, being like, you didn't even go to college.

00:51:38Yeah. And then he there's this clip of him.

00:51:41Just where everybody was that just bringing the ball up and like everybody over.

00:51:46Yeah. Yeah. And it's it is amazing to watch.

00:51:49So that might be his peak.

00:51:51I don't even know the second, third year.

00:51:53That's when he was like 19 years old. Yeah.

00:51:56So we're all Duke or all Kyrie right now.

00:51:59Clem, I I would like to abstain.

00:52:02I don't know if this is going to **** up the bracket.

00:52:04I said I'm not voting for whoever was going to be the Duke guy

00:52:06because I **** hate Duke.

00:52:07And I feel like I like when we used to hate Duke.

00:52:10And I feel like we've lost our way as the tournament's gotten

00:52:12like less and less big, I guess.

00:52:15I feel like it was bigger when we were kids.

00:52:16We talked about it before we went live.

00:52:17It was always **** Duke.

00:52:18First and foremost, you get your bracket, you just figure out

00:52:20how am I going to get Duke out of this bracket?

00:52:23And I was ready to do with Kyrie.

00:52:25But I feel like if I don't vote Kyrie and he's going to leave the show

00:52:28and we have to shut down the company, I don't want to do that.

00:52:30So I'm going to abstain from voting.

00:52:32Marshall Henderson does is an absurd person to vote against Kyrie.

00:52:35I also don't even consider Kyrie Duke.

00:52:37I don't consider Tatum Duke.

00:52:39Duke had four year guys.

00:52:40They **** haunt you forever.

00:52:42Those guys, Kyrie played what?

00:52:4413 games at Duke.

00:52:45If that 11, it was something like that.

00:52:47Yeah, yeah, that's that's why we don't

00:52:51we don't have long enough to learn how to hate people anymore.

00:52:54Come on, show some appreciation.

00:52:56I love I love hate.

00:52:58I love hate.

00:52:59And I don't I feel like I have no place to put my hate anymore.

00:53:03Do you remember inside of me?

00:53:05Do you remember when Zion was there with R.J.

00:53:07Barrett and **** Reddish and everyone was rooting for Duke?

00:53:10And I was like, guys, what?

00:53:11We've lost the **** story here.

00:53:13It's always **** Duke.

00:53:14First and foremost, like that was one thing that united this country.

00:53:17It was like **** the Yankees, **** Duke and whatever.

00:53:19**** the Lakers, I guess.

00:53:21And I feel like we've just lost our way.

00:53:22And Cooper Flags cool as hell, too.

00:53:24So I don't know, man.

00:53:26I'm I'm abstaining.

00:53:27That's what it's a little bit back when you saw that White Lotus clip

00:53:30go with him had to shoot himself with the Duke shirt.

00:53:32Everyone's like, oh, I can't wait to use this.

00:53:34So you saw a little bit like the remnants are still there for sure.

00:53:38So it's all Duke right now.

00:53:39Yeah, I mean, if crazy gives you an edge like Marshall Henderson

00:53:42might be the craziest person in this bracket, but

00:53:46Kyrie, for sure.

00:53:47I mean, watching him in for the Cavs, just his his handles, his moves.

00:53:51He's incredible.

00:53:52Do you guys I mean, yeah, **** Duke, Clem.

00:53:54Do you guys hate Kentucky?

00:53:56Because it's **** Duke **** Kentucky.

00:53:58But I don't know if that's just Indiana, Kentucky rivalry.

00:54:01But they did they make you guys care about him either way?

00:54:04I feel like I dislike most blue teams after like a while of and you know,

00:54:07I mean, like I feel like the blue is run the bracket in my mind.

00:54:10It's a very casual basketball watcher.

00:54:12Like I just want to read.

00:54:13I don't even hate Duke.

00:54:15I've never really had the pure hate for Duke either.

00:54:19Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

00:54:22We discussed it.

00:54:23We used to be a proper country club.

00:54:25It used to be a proper country.

00:54:26I always kind of hated Tyler Hansborough.

00:54:28He's like the guy I don't.

00:54:31I hate North Carolina. Yeah.

00:54:33But it's not like I hate Duke in Kentucky.

00:54:35Do you remember that guy he dunked over, though?

00:54:37Tyler Hansborough.

00:54:38And with a buddy knows that the psycho psycho T went to the Pacers

00:54:42and he almost hit my buddy on a bike with his car one time.

00:54:45Pretty awesome.

00:54:45And he like gave us a look like it's our fault.

00:54:48That sounds right.

00:54:49I mean, he almost killed that was a Will Bynum on the Pacers when

00:54:51because Tyler Hansborough's brother was Ben was on the Pacers, too.

00:54:54Yep. And he like he ran into Ben and Tyler just came over and about to murder him.

00:54:58Yeah, he did. Psycho T.

00:55:00Now he's a pickleball player and he's he's like dominating

00:55:03and he's still crazy as ever.

00:55:05Oh, so anyway, we know before we're going to move into with our playoffs

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00:55:48All right. First matchup of the playoffs.

00:55:50Charles Barkley versus Magic Johnson.

00:55:52Now we're getting into the good stuff.

00:55:54This is the good stuff, boys.

00:55:56Start with you, Bibsy.

00:55:57Charles Barkley is shorter than Magic Johnson, isn't he?

00:56:00Maybe about four inches. Damn, damn, damn.

00:56:05I feel like going against Magic Johnson is crazy.

00:56:08But I Charles Barkley was I think is is is underrated.

00:56:12I think we don't give him enough credit.

00:56:15He is insane. He was averaging so many rebounds.

00:56:19I think I think Magic Johnson's mind is going to be elsewhere

00:56:22during this tournament.

00:56:23I think he's worried about the the extracurricular activities

00:56:26after the tournament and what's going on in his hotel room.

00:56:29So I'm giving it to Chuck.

00:56:31You're giving it to Chuck.

00:56:32One vote for Charles Barkley. Clem.

00:56:34Chuck Waggon.

00:56:36Chuck Waggon, all the fucking way.

00:56:38Dude, he was so fucking good.

00:56:40Two for Charles Barkley.

00:56:42Che.

00:56:44This is tough because I want to say Barkley,

00:56:46but he is significantly shorter than Magic.

00:56:52And like efficiency wise, he's not great

00:56:58offensively, though.

00:56:59Magic is kind of tough,

00:57:02like not ideal, I think, from a shooting perspective.

00:57:06I'll go Barkley, but I think it's pretty close.

00:57:09Three for Barkley, Eddie.

00:57:12This is probably the toughest one.

00:57:17I keep flip flopping, I want to say.

00:57:21I don't know, I guess I'm just going to go with the attitude

00:57:23and give me the fuck you have Barkley all Barkley.

00:57:27Dave, I guess my vote doesn't matter.

00:57:29I, I, too, was going to go Barkley.

00:57:32I was trying to think of a funny age joke to make,

00:57:35but couldn't come up with any.

00:57:36So I'll just go with Barkley, I guess.

00:57:39We're deprived of a White Sox Dave age joke, chief.

00:57:44You'll get them next time, Dave.

00:57:46Yeah, it'll come.

00:57:48I have the first Magic Johnson joke I ever heard.

00:57:50I'll never forget it.

00:57:51It just stunned me so much.

00:57:53It was so fucked up.

00:57:55Can we hear it? Yeah.

00:57:56It's not really bad now that you're an adult,

00:57:58but what do you call Magic Johnson in a wheelchair?

00:58:00What? Rolaids. Rolaids.

00:58:02I was like, oh my God.

00:58:03Like, I felt like I had, like, just seen like someone get murdered.

00:58:06I was like, my soul, like, died that day.

00:58:08I was like, eat your soul, chief.

00:58:11I think Barkley at his peak is just too athletic for magic.

00:58:15So I'm taking Barkley at his peak.

00:58:17He's averaging like twenty eight and fourteen.

00:58:19Like, that's crazy.

00:58:22So Barkley's going to move on.

00:58:24Now we have the one seed,

00:58:26DeMarcus Cousins out of Kentucky versus Joe Johnson out of Arkansas chief.

00:58:34I didn't want DeMarcus Cousins in this tournament,

00:58:37so I'm still going with Iso Joe, I think he'll just

00:58:41he'll just get to the spots he wants and he'll get his buckets against DeMarcus.

00:58:45That would be the most mean spirited one on one you've ever heard.

00:58:47I feel like there'd be fists halfway through, Dave.

00:58:55Barkley.

00:58:56Barkley's not in this one.

00:59:00Who is it again?

00:59:01He's making his vote for Barkley now.

00:59:05It's DeMarcus Cousins versus Joe Johnson.

00:59:10I'm going to go Joe Johnson for the same reasons as I said before.

00:59:13I just he's so purely Iso and I don't like I stopped following basketball

00:59:19right around DeMarcus Cousins time when he entered the league

00:59:23and was in college, so I'm going to go Joe Johnson.

00:59:26Joe Johnson, Iso Joe, Eddie.

00:59:29It's hard because it's really all comes it really all comes down to me

00:59:32if Iso Joe's shots are falling

00:59:34because I don't think he'll be able to take Boogie to the rack.

00:59:37And I respect what Boogie does offensively.

00:59:40He's so versatile.

00:59:41Like you said, he could hit three.

00:59:43He could back you down.

00:59:44He's going to get a lot of the boards.

00:59:46Fuck, I was going to say Joe Johnson,

00:59:48but I think I just talked myself into Boogie.

00:59:50That's one then for Boogie and two for Joe Johnson.

00:59:53Jay.

00:59:54It's really hard because all the good things we say about Charles Barkley.

00:59:58Boogie is that but he's 6'10".

01:00:01And he can shoot threes.

01:00:02And shoot threes, yeah.

01:00:03And a better shooter, yeah.

01:00:09The thing like if you rewind it back to like Hawks Joe Johnson

01:00:13that was winning games.

01:00:14He's like hunting guys like DeMarcus Cousins,

01:00:17the one on one on one.

01:00:18Yeah.

01:00:21I mean DeMarcus Cousins is going to have his way with him in the post

01:00:24and stuff like that.

01:00:25But I mean Joe Johnson is 6'8".

01:00:28I think.

01:00:296'7", 6'8".

01:00:32This is tough.

01:00:33I'm going to.

01:00:35I think DeMarcus Cousins is almost a worthy winner of this.

01:00:38But I also think Joe Johnson beats him one on one.

01:00:40So give me ISO Joe.

01:00:43Joe Johnson had a game where he had 29 and a quarter in 23.

01:00:48Psycho.

01:00:50Three for ISO Joe.

01:00:51One for DeMarcus Cousins.

01:00:52Clem.

01:00:54Give me the armadillo cowboy himself, Joe Johnson.

01:00:58I think I'm also have a little bit of like

01:01:01Anthony Davis should be here.

01:01:03DeMarcus did get hurt a lot I feel.

01:01:05So hamstring could go any time.

01:01:07Achilles could pop.

01:01:08Since we're Joe Johnson, I feel like an iron,

01:01:10was an iron man for a while there.

01:01:12However in my, so I'm picking Joe Johnson.

01:01:15But in my like head cannon, DeMarcus Cousins like

01:01:20he gives Joe something to remember for the next round.

01:01:22Like he's not feeling good going into the next round in my mind.

01:01:25He's going to cheap foul potential injury for Joe Johnson here.

01:01:28But he wins the game.

01:01:30Joe Johnson is going to win the Vibsy.

01:01:33Let the record show.

01:01:34I said, I said good things about Purdue.

01:01:37I picked DeMarcus Cousins to get here.

01:01:39And I think he'd be great.

01:01:40But Joe Johnson is built for a one-on-one tournament.

01:01:44I'm going to, I'm going to take him.

01:01:46ISO Joe is going to move on.

01:01:47And team, team basketball.

01:01:49No, he stinks.

01:01:50But one-on-one tournament, hell yeah.

01:01:52So ISO Joe versus Charles Barkley to get into the finals.

01:01:56Vibsy.

01:01:57Say it again.

01:01:58ISO Joe versus Charles Barkley to go into the finals.

01:02:00Oh.

01:02:03That's mean.

01:02:04Now I want to, yeah.

01:02:07I think, I think I should say Joe Johnson.

01:02:09But I want, I want Charles Barkley to be there.

01:02:12So I'm going to say Charles Barkley.

01:02:13He threw a basketball at Shaq's head.

01:02:15Like he's not afraid.

01:02:16No, I don't think he's afraid at all.

01:02:18And I think he's very underrated for, for who he is.

01:02:22But in Joe Johnson, yeah, he's like built for this.

01:02:25But I, yeah, I'm going, I'm going Charles Barkley.

01:02:28One for Chuck.

01:02:29Clem.

01:02:31I feel like Joe Johnson might be the move.

01:02:33Just because Charles wasn't really known for his defense.

01:02:36It's just hard not to go with fucking Charles Barkley here.

01:02:41Fuck it.

01:02:42I'm going Chuck.

01:02:43I'm going Chuck on this one.

01:02:44This is a tough one.

01:02:45This is real tough.

01:02:46Two for Chuck.

01:02:47Okay.

01:02:48I mean, if we just took Joe Johnson to beat Boogie,

01:02:51Charles Barkley is like a slightly worse shooting Boogie,

01:02:55but six inches shorter.

01:02:56So I'm going ISO Joe.

01:02:58One for ISO Joe.

01:02:59Eddie.

01:03:00Same exact logic.

01:03:01I can't, I can't.

01:03:02I would, I would pick Boogie over Barkley too.

01:03:05Yeah.

01:03:06I don't disagree.

01:03:07So I'm going to take.

01:03:08But March, March is about upsets.

01:03:10They got it.

01:03:11They find a way somehow.

01:03:12Joe Johnson is a find a way guy.

01:03:14Not anymore.

01:03:15So two to two right now, Dave,

01:03:19I'm going Joe Johnson, Joe Johnson,

01:03:22three to two chief.

01:03:24I'm also going Joe Johnson.

01:03:26I didn't realize how much respect I had for Joe Johnson until he did this

01:03:30show, but I fucking love Joe.

01:03:31I bet if you, he were on the bulls,

01:03:34we would have fucking hated him.

01:03:37One of those players.

01:03:40We've had a lot of guys like that.

01:03:42Jamal Crawford, Jamal Crawford.

01:03:44Ben Gordon.

01:03:45Ben Gordon.

01:03:46Another one.

01:03:47White it up.

01:03:49He had that one streak where it was just like 40 points,

01:03:5240 points, 48 points, 40 points.

01:03:54Yeah.

01:03:55Kind of have it a little bit going right now with Kobe white.

01:03:58Yeah.

01:03:59Pretty close.

01:04:00So Joe Johnson out of Arkansas is in the finals.

01:04:03On the other side, we have a keen,

01:04:04the dream versus Jamal Crawford chief.

01:04:10This is preposterous.

01:04:12It is.

01:04:13It is.

01:04:15But like, I don't know.

01:04:17Could it like,

01:04:18how does a keen defend a Jamal Crawford crossover?

01:04:24I don't know.

01:04:25I think he would.

01:04:26I think it's so different than anything he'd ever have seen in the

01:04:29nineties.

01:04:30Like ever.

01:04:32I mean,

01:04:33he did he ever get caught on a pick and roll against Iverson on a switch

01:04:38on Iverson.

01:04:39That'd be like the last year of his career.

01:04:41Iverson came in in 96.

01:04:42He won a championship in 95.

01:04:43Yeah,

01:04:44that's true.

01:04:45Yes.

01:04:46But I fucking love chiefs,

01:04:47old school NBA knowledge.

01:04:48Yeah.

01:04:49Yeah.

01:04:50And then it ends.

01:04:51It's just,

01:04:52yeah.

01:04:53It ends really with like that Lakers pistons and final,

01:04:56whatever,

01:04:57whatever.

01:04:582004.

01:04:59It's right around Donahue.

01:05:00Yeah.

01:05:03So you're going to go with a keen.

01:05:04I think I'm going to keen one for a keen Dave.

01:05:08This is verse Jamal Crawford.

01:05:09Correct?

01:05:10Yes.

01:05:11I'm going Jamal Crawford.

01:05:12I need to see Jamal Crawford versus Joe Johnson.

01:05:15One-on-one.

01:05:16It would be incredible.

01:05:18That's exactly what I want in one-on-one basketball.

01:05:21Just guys who light it light up to scoreboard.

01:05:23Yeah.

01:05:24They should do this instead of the big three.

01:05:26When guys retire,

01:05:27it's just like,

01:05:28who was a bucket.

01:05:29So get Ben Gordon,

01:05:30get all these guys.

01:05:31And that's what Pat Bev's trying to do.

01:05:32Pat,

01:05:33Pat Monroe are trying to do like a one-on-one pay-per-view.

01:05:35That's what Tracy McGrady did.

01:05:37He has a league.

01:05:38I knew,

01:05:39but team acted with like regular folk.

01:05:40I want it with like guys who promise.

01:05:43I so players.

01:05:44Yeah.

01:05:45I so like imagine mellow in this.

01:05:46Oh my God.

01:05:47That'd be so hollow.

01:05:49I wish Syracuse had made it.

01:05:50I would have had him in here and he would have won the whole thing.

01:05:52Yeah,

01:05:53it's so funny.

01:05:54One of the cool things about Carmelo,

01:05:55like in now in his retirement is when you hear old players,

01:05:57talk about Carmelo,

01:05:58he is your favorite players,

01:06:00like favorite player.

01:06:01Like they all say,

01:06:02like he was the most difficult player to guard.

01:06:04Not like he's like the greatest scorer.

01:06:06Yeah.

01:06:07Ever.

01:06:08He could score in any position.

01:06:10He could shoot you for three,

01:06:11back you down.

01:06:12He could do anything you want.

01:06:13It is incredible.

01:06:14Yeah.

01:06:15Yeah,

01:06:16not too bad.

01:06:17So one-to-one right now,

01:06:18Eddie.

01:06:20I feel like something we haven't really talked about during this whole podcast

01:06:24is intimidation.

01:06:26And like,

01:06:27I think obviously like players,

01:06:28you'd be intimidated in the NBA,

01:06:30like,

01:06:31you know,

01:06:32the Jordans,

01:06:33the Kobe's,

01:06:34like the complete guys who could trash talk and back up their legend.

01:06:37But I think Jamal Crawford gets the ball to check it up with Akim

01:06:41Elijah on.

01:06:42And it's just in awe of that man.

01:06:46And I think he came lens based on that.

01:06:49The dream two-to-one Che.

01:06:55He missed a much,

01:06:56much better basketball player.

01:07:00But yeah,

01:07:01like even if Jamal Crawford misses,

01:07:05Hakim gets the rebound and brings it back.

01:07:08He's still got to get it to the post and he can like kind of walk him back.

01:07:11But Jamal Crawford is like a shifty guy.

01:07:13I think he figures it out.

01:07:15I'm taking Jamal Crawford.

01:07:16Wow.

01:07:17Two to two right now.

01:07:18Clem.

01:07:20Just a couple of quick things here.

01:07:22Jamal Crawford on basketball reference.

01:07:25The only nickname they have listed for him is JC.

01:07:28That is the lamest.

01:07:30He has nicknames like they call him J crossover.

01:07:32That's his fucking like,

01:07:33you know,

01:07:34handle.

01:07:35I also saw another JC.

01:07:36That's pretty good.

01:07:37Yeah,

01:07:38it's pretty solid.

01:07:39Talk about me.

01:07:42I also looked up Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford.

01:07:45Hoping there was like a one-on-one of them.

01:07:47That one,

01:07:48you know that they did somehow.

01:07:49Apparently they put up 56 points on the bulls in the playoffs back in the

01:07:52day.

01:07:53So them together blows my mind with the amount we've built these guys up.

01:07:57But at the end of the day,

01:07:58I have to,

01:07:59Oh,

01:08:00is it Ramadan when we play this tournament?

01:08:01Oh,

01:08:02that's a good question.

01:08:04I didn't think I was going to ask that.

01:08:05Did you?

01:08:06Yeah,

01:08:07it didn't factor that in at all.

01:08:08What is that?

01:08:09February right now?

01:08:10Yeah,

01:08:11because Hakeem did fast during Ramadan.

01:08:13I remember back in the day and it's incredible that he was able to play

01:08:16like,

01:08:17you know,

01:08:18did too.

01:08:19Jalen Brown's doing right now too.

01:08:20Mellow did that?

01:08:21Yeah.

01:08:22Oh shit.

01:08:23I don't remember that.

01:08:24Amari.

01:08:25Amari.

01:08:26Yeah.

01:08:27Amari would make more sense.

01:08:28Although he's Jewish.

01:08:29Mark,

01:08:30isn't he Jewish?

01:08:31Maybe he did on Fridays or maybe he did it for Passover or something.

01:08:34Yeah.

01:08:35So you'll claim,

01:08:36I think,

01:08:37I mean,

01:08:38Hakeem is like a fucking,

01:08:39like a snake.

01:08:40Like,

01:08:41I don't know how he's just fast,

01:08:42but he's tall,

01:08:43but he's strong.

01:08:44He had like every fucking like attribute attribute where I think Jamal Crawford

01:08:48ensued in his shifty,

01:08:49but he doesn't have like the size of the defense.

01:08:51So it's Hakeem.

01:08:52Jamal Crawford's like six,

01:08:53seven,

01:08:54isn't he?

01:08:55No,

01:08:56but shorter.

01:08:57I think it,

01:08:58he was like six,

01:08:59four probably.

01:09:01Yeah.

01:09:02Six,

01:09:03five.

01:09:04Hakeem.

01:09:05By the way,

01:09:06Hakeem Olajuwon is what?

01:09:07Seven feet tall.

01:09:08Yeah.

01:09:09Yeah.

01:09:10Yeah.

01:09:11Let's,

01:09:12let's throw that into the equation.

01:09:13Six,

01:09:14five,

01:09:15six,

01:09:16five for Crawford,

01:09:17by the way.

01:09:18Six.

01:09:19So not so taller than I thought.

01:09:20Well,

01:09:21by an inch,

01:09:22I guess.

01:09:23So you're going with Hakeem the dream.

01:09:24That means Vibsy.

01:09:25It is three for Hakeem,

01:09:26two for Crawford.

01:09:27Yeah.

01:09:28Hakeem was a little bit before my time,

01:09:29but I,

01:09:30I got to take him.

01:09:31I mean,

01:09:32Hakeem,

01:09:33the dream is going to move on,

01:09:34on the top end of it.

01:09:35Kyrie Irving versus Steve Francis.

01:09:36I think you could,

01:09:37you could catch Steve Francis's ankles in orbit.

01:09:38By the time this one is over.

01:09:39Start with you,

01:09:40Vibsy.

01:09:41Kyrie.

01:09:42Yeah.

01:09:43One for Kyrie Irving.

01:09:44Clem.

01:09:45I just realized that there was one guy we could have put for

01:09:46Maryland and he did peak in college.

01:09:47Unfortunately.

01:09:48Yeah.

01:09:49That's,

01:09:50I already said that.

01:09:51I already said that.

01:09:52Yeah.

01:09:53I just realized that there was one guy we could have put for

01:09:54Maryland and he did peak in college.

01:09:55Unfortunately.

01:09:56Yeah.

01:09:57That's,

01:09:58I already went dark with the role,

01:09:59AIDS jokes.

01:10:00I didn't want to bring that one up again,

01:10:01but thought about it.

01:10:02Fuck it.

01:10:03I'm going fucking Stevie franchise.

01:10:04Fuck Duke.

01:10:05Fuck all you guys that like Duke.

01:10:06One to one right now.

01:10:09I check Kyrie and a landslide Kyrie and a landslide.

01:10:13Eddie Kyrie just absolutely dismantles Kyrie,

01:10:18Dave Kyrie Irving Kyrie chief Kyrie.

01:10:23Yeah.

01:10:24So Kyrie Irving versus Hakeem Eladjian.

01:10:27Hakeem Olajuwon, what a fucking matchup this would be to watch.

01:10:30So Prime Kyrie versus Prime Hakeem.

01:10:34Who wins in a one-on-one matchup, chief?

01:10:40This is actually, like, it's tough.

01:10:42Pretty tough.

01:10:43I have no idea.

01:10:44Like, again, we were talking about the crossover.

01:10:46I want it to just be, like, pure one-on-one basketball skills, so I'm defaulting to Kyrie.

01:10:53Defaulting to Kyrie.

01:10:55One for Kyrie.

01:10:56Dave?

01:10:57It's, I think Kyrie Irving's probably beating everybody in basketball history one-on-one.

01:11:03So Kyrie Irving.

01:11:04Two for Kyrie.

01:11:05Eddie?

01:11:06Looks like Eddie and Shea Froese.

01:11:12No, he's just mentally frozen.

01:11:16Come on, Dave.

01:11:19Fuck.

01:11:20I think Kyrie can just do too much.

01:11:25Three for Kyrie.

01:11:27Shea?

01:11:28Kyrie?

01:11:29Yeah, Kyrie's going to win, but Clem?

01:11:31I mean, I don't want to be the old gravy here, but seven times top five defensive player

01:11:37of the year.

01:11:38Won it twice, back-to-back.

01:11:39MVP.

01:11:40He won the MVP in the NBA, came in second the year before, came in fifth, fourth, seventh.

01:11:45Hakeem Olajuwon is just, and I know it's a one-on-one tournament, but I think Hakeem

01:11:48could figure it out.

01:11:49Plus, he's seven feet tall, and he's a fucking freaking, Hakeem Olajuwon is a freaking agent.

01:11:55You guys, after this is over, everyone just go on YouTube, just watch Hakeem Olajuwon.

01:11:57I just need you guys to acknowledge he's a freaking agent.

01:12:00And fuck Duke.

01:12:01Like, what do we have?

01:12:02All right.

01:12:03Hakeem Olajuwon.

01:12:04And this guy ripped my goddamn heart out in 94, and the Knicks would have won in six and

01:12:08not had to worry about John Stark's two for 18 if he didn't get his fingertip on the ball

01:12:12in the end of game six.

01:12:13So fuck.

01:12:14Goddamn.

01:12:15You're making me resent Hakeem Olajuwon.

01:12:16Goddamn, you guys.

01:12:17Hakeem?

01:12:18Vimsy?

01:12:19Yeah.

01:12:20Hakeem Olajuwon, if his footwork is as good as everyone says.

01:12:24If Irving can get past him, but Hakeem Olajuwon is seven feet tall, his wingspan, he just,

01:12:30you know, he just turns around and swats it.

01:12:32Like, I'm going Hakeem.

01:12:33Hakeem, but Kyrie is going to win, which means we actually have a pretty fun finals here.

01:12:38So it's Kyrie Irving versus Joe Johnson.

01:12:40Kyrie out of Duke, Joe Johnson out of Arkansas.

01:12:42Who wins in a one-on-one matchup, first to 11?

01:12:45Starting with you, Vimsy.

01:12:46Sorry, it's Joe Johnson and?

01:12:48And Kyrie.

01:12:49And Kyrie.

01:12:50Could you imagine if they, could you imagine if they aired that segment of us taking Kyrie

01:12:54Irving over Hakeem Olajuwon on like terrestrial radio tomorrow?

01:12:58Oh my God.

01:12:59We'd all have death threats.

01:13:00Yeah.

01:13:01Yeah.

01:13:02We'd have Bernsies down our throat.

01:13:05Lots of Bernsies down our throat.

01:13:06Yeah.

01:13:07Sorry, Vims.

01:13:08We're like, no, we're like the Maryland foodie boys.

01:13:10Yeah, yeah.

01:13:11Going, oh, Kyrie.

01:13:12Kyrie Irving is a crossover.

01:13:15Yeah.

01:13:16But Joe Johnson, Kyrie.

01:13:17I'm going Kyrie.

01:13:18I mean, I, I just remember, I remember where I was watching him for the Cavs in those finals

01:13:22and just being like, holy shit, the way he moves the ball is just, it's just different.

01:13:27I'm going Kyrie.

01:13:29Yep.

01:13:30One for Kyrie.

01:13:31Clem?

01:13:32Fuck Duke.

01:13:33Fuck Joe Johnson.

01:13:34One for ISO Joe.

01:13:37Che?

01:13:38It's tough.

01:13:42At the record show, one-on-one, I'm picking Dave Portnoy over Kyrie Irving, but I'm going

01:13:48to pick Kyrie over Joe Johnson.

01:13:50Two for Kyrie.

01:13:52One for Joe Johnson.

01:13:53Eddie?

01:13:54Yeah, it's hard, but I just think, I just think Kyrie outclasses him.

01:13:59This is the Kyrie room over here.

01:14:01Put some Duke stuff up.

01:14:02You guys have been sucking his dick the whole goddamn tournament.

01:14:04Prime Kyrie was different.

01:14:06He was tough to guard.

01:14:07Nobody wanted to guard him.

01:14:09So we are three for Kyrie.

01:14:11One for ISO Joe.

01:14:12Dave?

01:14:13Kyrie Irving.

01:14:14I think the real championship was in the Kyrie semifinal with Hakeem, based on what you guys

01:14:19said at least.

01:14:21But I think he cooks Joe Johnson all day, every day, even though Joe Johnson is deservedly

01:14:27in the championship from his side of the bracket.

01:14:30So, but I'm going with Kyrie all day.

01:14:32Kyrie?

01:14:33Chief?

01:14:34I just don't think there's been anyone who has ever lived that can stay in front of Kyrie

01:14:39Irving.

01:14:40Like anybody.

01:14:41Yeah.

01:14:42Like he'll go between Hakeem's legs, like he'll figure it out.

01:14:46Yeah.

01:14:47So that means Kyrie Irving out of Duke.

01:14:50So Duke wins at another bracket, much to Clem's dismay as he wins our bracket of one-on-one

01:14:56alumni of our current Sweet 16 schools.

01:14:59I should have like pushed more like Kyrie always gets hurt.

01:15:02He's a fucking, he like, he didn't play that one year because of COVID.

01:15:06He's kind of a loser.

01:15:07He's kind of a, he flakes out a lot, right?

01:15:08Yeah, you're right.

01:15:09I could have been sold on that because he could have talked about how it's not that

01:15:13important to his life and how it doesn't matter.

01:15:16His third eye is not blinking right.

01:15:19So he doesn't know.

01:15:20But I mean, if he, if he's burning Sage pregame, it's over.

01:15:22You mentioned like anti-Semitism would have had a play.

01:15:25You never know.

01:15:26Anything could have been mentioned here if you wanted to.

01:15:29You missed out, Clem.

01:15:30Back in my day, fuck Duke got you fucking all you needed.

01:15:33I mean, I still pick VCU every year because Eric Maynard beat him like a billion years

01:15:37ago.

01:15:38Eric Maynard.

01:15:39Yeah.

01:15:40That's a wizard's legend right there.

01:15:42Eric Maynard.

01:15:43So that means the winner of the bracket episode 168, the alumni sweet 16 battle is Kyrie Irving

01:15:49out of Duke.

01:15:50Poor Joe Johnson.

01:15:51We gave enough flowers to him.

01:15:54He deserved to get into the finals.

01:15:55Joe Johnson was unbelievable.

01:15:56And I, so like he, you did not touch him.

01:15:58Like you mentioned those Hawks games.

01:15:59He was filthy, disgusting.

01:16:00So that's it.

01:16:01That's the episode.

01:16:02We will be back next week with a new topic.

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