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00:00We would love to hear from as many of you Warrior fans as possible today.
00:03What is bothering you most about this team right now?
00:07It's BPA, who we on this show have not heard from in a while.
00:11BPA, what's going on, man?
00:13Not much.
00:14Just listening to my favorite guy, Dibs.
00:17How you doing, baby?
00:18You owe me for two lost bets, by the way.
00:21Don't think I've forgotten.
00:22I'm like an elephant, just so you know.
00:24Hey.
00:25You're looking good, man.
00:26Looking good.
00:28Nothing, I mean, it's a team that's real light in shooting.
00:34And when Steph's out, your next best shooters are probably Pods and Moody, who went two
00:38for 20 from three last night.
00:42And we talked about the defense.
00:43I mean, to me, the offense is the problem.
00:46The last two nights, they're really almost unwatchable offensively.
00:52And you see them running split action, like, you know, I'm not a Kerr critic.
00:58But you probably should not run the Steph offense when you have no shooting on the court.
01:03I don't know what you can run.
01:05That would be a limitation for me from a coaching acumen standpoint.
01:08But yeah, they're just, when Steph's out, when Steph's there and you have Jimmy, you
01:14know, doing his second, you know, second act thing, and really Pods or Moody or one of
01:20these guys have a good night, that's probably good enough to win.
01:23But if Steph's not there, those guys have to contribute.
01:26And they have to make shots.
01:28And that's usually not a good recipe with these guys.
01:31So I don't know.
01:33I don't have any other explanations, you know, you know.
01:37I like that breakdown, though, because I mean, yeah, you're running the same offense without
01:42Steph that you run with Steph.
01:44But I don't know what else you can do, because you have no real post up presence and you
01:49don't have a lot of ability to run screen and roll.
01:52And what you saw from Miami last night is what teams are going to do when you don't
01:55have Steph, which is, all right, we're going to go ahead and when Jimmy drives, we're going
01:59to double him and we're going to help off of whoever we need to help off of, which is,
02:04you know, Draymond Green.
02:06We're going to help off a GP too.
02:07We're going to help off of everyone who can't shoot a three, which is two or three guys
02:12on the court usually.
02:13Can I throw some numbers or numbers, numbers or numbers at you?
02:18But these are your numbers.
02:19Well, they are my numbers now because they got sent to me by numbers and numbers are
02:23numbers.
02:24These are them.
02:25Although they started with Grady.
02:26Grady got these, but I did ask him to get him.
02:28So maybe there are numbers.
02:30I don't claim ownership.
02:31Okay.
02:32You know what?
02:33I'll take them.
02:34These are my numbers.
02:35He retrieved them.
02:36I wonder if this would surprise y'all.
02:40The Warriors attempt the third most three pointers per game in the whole league.
02:46And they are 14th in the league in terms of percentage.
02:51I got them at 15th now, but that's fine.
02:54Okay.
02:55Grady, that's, that's a, a you and dibs problem.
02:57Your numbers, not mine.
02:58Okay.
02:59No, but you forced yourself.
03:01The only teams that shoot more three pointers per game are the Boston Celtics and the Chicago
03:10Bulls.
03:12But then throw this in.
03:14Since the all-star break, they've gone down from the third most attempts to the seventh,
03:20but their percentage has gone up, right?
03:23And that's the Jimmy Butler effect that so many of us have felt, which is that he's unlocked
03:29all these role players and Quentin Post has gotten in on the act.
03:32So since the all-star break, they're no longer 14th best in three-point percentage.
03:38They're seventh.
03:40Do those numbers suggest to you that the Warriors are not a good shooting team?
03:44Because I hear people say that all the time.
03:47No, but I, what I said to you before is that when they don't shoot it well, they lose.
03:54And I mentioned this before about Cleveland.
03:56That's not all teams.
03:57It's not Cleveland.
03:58Cleveland has had nine games this year where they shoot less than 30% and they're five
04:02and four in those games.
04:04And they are, I mean, they're Cleveland.
04:05They're right.
04:06They're clearly better than.
04:07They're number one in the league in three-point percentage, but on those nights where they
04:11don't shoot it well, and I put 30% as the marker because the Warriors are four and 10
04:16in those games, Cleveland's five and four.
04:19So the Warriors, when they don't shoot it at 30%, they basically lose.
04:23They've lost four out of 14, which is 28% of the time.
04:28So a good team, and yes, Cleveland is the gold standard along with OKC, a good team
04:33can survive it because they can do other things.
04:36The Warriors to BPA's call in his point, they don't really have a lot of other options
04:42like Kaminga when he's cooking, he can cook and he can get mid range.
04:47He can get to the hoop and he can score.
04:50He can.
04:51I mean, I'm not saying he does all the time.
04:53I didn't stop you.
04:54You smirked and you, you were about to make a noise when Jimmy Butler is on his game and
04:59he wasn't last night.
05:01He gets to the foul line, free points, found money, Easter eggs.
05:05Shout out Jesus.
05:06But when you don't have Jimmy aggressive and you don't have Kaminga cooking and you can't
05:11shoot the three, you lose.
05:13I don't want to do Jonathan Kaminga today.
05:16I don't either.
05:17I don't.
05:18And I thought that he was fine yesterday.
05:19Yeah, he was fine.
05:20He was a C plus.
05:21I want to explain my smirk.
05:24The Jonathan Kaminga can cook thing.
05:27Here's where the smirk comes from.
05:29Yeah, I'm about to smirk back, but go ahead.
05:31It's not that Jonathan can't score.
05:33He obviously can put the biscuit in the basket.
05:36I totally get that.
05:37Is that Kenny Maine?
05:38Yes, a little bit of a hockey term, but anyway, it works.
05:42He can do that.
05:44But I think where the whole Kaminga conversation gets sort of lost is that people talk about
05:52Jonathan Kaminga as if he's his own entity.
05:55So he can score or he's not allowed to play and score.
06:00And I'm always looking at it like, wait a minute, can we tuck this into warrior basketball?
06:06Tuck it into warrior basketball.
06:08So when is Jonathan Kaminga been that dude and 25 points a night for a team that wins
06:14basketball games and is relevant in the league?
06:18Because like that's one thing I never, I never hear that get brought up.
06:22It's like, what if I, what if I told the biggest Kaminga fans out there, you're right.
06:27If he was given the opportunity, he can score 26 a night in this league.
06:33Just like lamello ball or Trey young or whatever, like insert whatever name you want in there
06:43who goes out and gets points and effectively it doesn't achieve anything.
06:49That's where I think we sometimes get lost and, and, and where the whole conversation
06:54I think gets lost because I'm a warrior fan.
06:59I'm not a Kaminga guy and not a Kaminga guy, a warrior guy.
07:04And what I want to see this do is have everybody doing what they're supposed to do for the
07:10warriors to win basketball games.
07:12If that's Jonathan with 25, great.
07:15If it's with five, great.
07:16Do you know what I mean?
07:17Yeah, that's so we don't need to go down that road.
07:21I just want to let you know where the smirk was coming from.
07:23I get the smirk and I just looked it up and they are six and five this year when he gets
07:2820 points or more, which is to say they're slightly worse than the norm when he doesn't
07:34get 20 or more.
07:35And that includes games he didn't play, but when he gets 20 or more, there's six and five.
07:39So it's not the elixir.
07:41I look at a night like last night where you can't shoot the three and BPA was slightly
07:46off.
07:47He said they were two for 20.
07:48They were two for 15 pods and moody combined.
07:52If you throw in buddy, they were four for 20 pods, buddy and moody.
07:57So when you're not shooting the three, what else can you do?
08:01That's the thing.
08:02And that's my, that's my point about coming is I'm not saying coming could have gone for
08:0634 and you would have won the game.
08:07You might've still lost that game because overall you were bad, but you don't right
08:12now as an offense have something else.
08:15If Jimmy Butler's not getting to the foul line and you're not making threes, what do
08:19you have?
08:20You don't have a good low post.
08:22Get me a bucket guy.
08:24You don't have really somebody who can cook to the rim.
08:28Jonathan can.
08:29He doesn't do it that often, but when you're not hitting the three, and that was my point,
08:33you really are kind of a live by the three, die by the three team more than almost anybody
08:38else in the league.
08:39Eight, eight, nine, five, seven, nine, five 70.
08:42What is bothering you most right now about the golden state warriors?
08:46Jonathan in the city.
08:47Hi Jonathan.
08:48Thanks for the call.
08:50Hey, thanks for taking my phone call.
08:52Good afternoon guys.
08:53Hey, I'm going to mention the first two and it might be an addiction at this point because
08:58they can't seem to stop it.
08:59Number one, it's slow starts.
09:02Number two, it's mindless turnovers.
09:05They make Tim Murray go, Oh my, you know, a lot of times and it seemed to happen in
09:10succession and then number three, this is kind of new, but it's, it's kind of, you know,
09:15I mean, it makes me grind my teeth a little bit is when you're, they're going against
09:19a big lineup like yesterday, you know, you got BAM and the other guys and seven footer
09:24and they come up with a four guard lineup.
09:27What's up with that guys?
09:28Jonathan.
09:29Thanks.
09:30What would you rather have him do?
09:32Yeah.
09:33Play Quentin post who is a seven, one player who plays like he's six, five.
09:37You could play TJD, you could dust him off and play him.
09:41He's out of the rotation.
09:42You can play Kavon Looney who he looks a little stiff and I don't know if it's the, I mean,
09:48that's where I'm at.
09:49He looks a little long in the tooth.
09:50I love Kavon.
09:51We all love Kavon, but you watch him out there and he looks, he looks like I look when I
09:56get out of bed first thing in the morning, listen, this is a, this is a real weak point
10:01for me.
10:02I am freely admitting that I, there, there's a hole when it, when it comes to this discussion
10:08and that is because I've heard, I've heard a lot of people, they do it every time the
10:12Warriors lose.
10:13Every time the Warriors lose, we go, well, Steve Kerr's playing the wrong people and
10:20it's such a catch all because I can't sit here and be like, you're not allowed to criticize
10:26Steve Kerr.
10:27Of course you are, but I would fight back with whatever point you're making has zero
10:34evidence behind it.
10:37There's zero evidence that if we had tweaked the lineup to go in a different direction
10:44that it would have worked.
10:46And I know you may say, well, we got to try something.
10:48Sure.
10:49Sure.
10:50I guess so.
10:51But I have no issue with the starting lineup and the starting lineup went out there and
10:56got punched in the mouth immediately and you're playing catch up and without Steph Curry,
11:02that's not a good spot for the Warriors, right?
11:04You're immediately down.
11:05You're immediately in trouble.
11:07You ended up in trouble the entire night.
11:10So we can do that.
11:12Like to me, the Steve Kerr rotation issue has to come from someone came on and off the
11:18bench looked amazing.
11:20And then Steve pulled him or looked amazing and Steve should have gone to him in the first
11:26place.
11:27But my response is who the hell looks amazing?
11:29Nobody.
11:30Yeah.
11:31Like there's nobody on the team that looks amazing right now.
11:33Last night, if you gave out grades to individual players, I was just wondering if pods would
11:40be the highest grade at a B or a B minus.
11:44Randy's grades.
11:45Oh, we may have to bring it back because I love the bit.
11:48But Randy, and I think you were on post game last night.
11:52Would you give anybody higher than pods grade?
11:54And what would you give pods?
11:55Does pods get a B?
11:57I mean, Guy Santos was good.
11:59Guy Santos probably gets the best grade, but it was maybe an incomplete assignment.
12:04Because he didn't play a ton fair.
12:05But when he did play, he was pretty darn good.
12:08But other than that, like mostly, I think it was okay.
12:11Yeah.
12:12Pods was better in the second half, but pretty bad in the first half.
12:15D's and F's.
12:16Yeah.
12:17Ahoy.
12:18It's fair.
12:19Warriors 18th in the association on the year in first quarter scoring differential.
12:25Last three games, they're a minus 6.7 per game.
12:28They're 29th.
12:29Only better than Toronto.
12:30So in the last three, they've gone down by an average of almost seven points a game.
12:35And you mentioned it without the chef.
12:38You're done.
12:39Like this is the one.
12:40They're not built for this.
12:41Absolutely.
12:42And so.
12:43I can honestly say that.
12:44Yeah.
12:45Thank you, Steve.
12:46You're welcome.
12:47Like if you want something to calm you down today, for me, that's the one.
12:51That's the one.
12:52The chef?
12:53If you want to not be mad.
12:54And actually, maybe I'll make it two.
12:56There's two things, which is role players often do this on the road, which is miss all
13:02their shots.
13:03This is a thing in the NBA.
13:05Like it really is.
13:07It's why you go to a playoff series and somebody in a dominant fashion wins game one and two.
13:12And then you go on the road and you stink and you get beat and it's a 2-1 series.
13:18Happens a lot because the role players are so much more comfortable at home.
13:23So the fact that Moody and Pods and whoever seem to struggle as they've started this road
13:29trip, I don't think that's a crazy thing.
13:32I think that there's some normalcy behind that.
13:34And the other thing is, right, they're missing Steph Curry.
13:38And I'm not going to like, I don't think that you should blow that off.
13:41Oh, no excuses.
13:42Nope.
13:43That works.
13:44That works for me.
13:45That's an excuse that I'm like completely willing to acknowledge.
13:49And I and I offer that to every team.
13:51I offer it to Memphis when they're without Jaron Jackson.
13:55I watched the spread double in Denver tonight because Giannis is out.
13:59It went up from two to four when Lillard was out and went up from four to eight when Giannis
14:03was out.
14:04Why?
14:05Because the good players are out.
14:06So you are immediately a way worse team.
14:09So Jokic is out.
14:11LeBron is out.
14:12Steph is out.
14:13Steph is out.
14:14They need Steph Curry to come back and play basketball for the remaining 10 games.
14:19Period.
14:21There's my solution.
14:22Well, that's a fine solution.
14:25It's not only what he does individually for you, but it's also the gravity, which is one
14:30of the most overused phrases when talking about basketball.
14:33But it really does suit this team.
14:35And just looking at the numbers, Mark, the Warriors are number two in the league in percentage
14:41of shots that are threes.
14:43Nearly half of their shots are threes.
14:45Only Boston shoots more threes than twos.
14:49When they have a bad three-point shooting night, they can still win because they have
14:52a couple of guys who are really good at getting to the basket.
14:55The Warriors don't really have that.
14:56So when you shoot 47% of your shots from three and you don't have the best three-point shooter
15:01in history, well, now you need Quinton and Buddy and Moses and GP2 from the corner and
15:09Pods.
15:10You need all of them to not be awful.
15:11I love what you just said because if you want to go back to the last game that they won
15:15without Steph Curry, it was when they beat Milwaukee last Tuesday night at home.
15:20And what is the common thread?
15:22I want you to listen to this now.
15:24They won that game by 11 points in their home building.
15:28Giannis played, Lillard played, they locked them up.
15:31Remember Draymond's DPOY.
15:32You want to know why they won?
15:35It wasn't because Draymond was DPOY.
15:38They got four threes from Post, four threes from Pods, four threes from Buddy Heald, and
15:46two threes from Gary Payton.
15:49Fourteen three-point makes from dudes who collectively are making $12 million a year.
15:58Added up together are making about $12 million a year.
16:03And if you look at-
16:04That's it.
16:05That's it.
16:06And last night, I think they got like none.
16:07Yeah.
16:08Quinton had one.
16:09Okay.
16:10And-
16:11What Pods have?
16:12Pods had two.
16:13Okay.
16:14What Buddy had?
16:15Buddy had an okay night.
16:16Buddy had two.
16:17Okay.
16:18So that's five.
16:19And how about GP2?
16:20GP2 had zero.
16:21Okay.
16:22Didn't even take one.
16:23All right.
16:24So that's five.
16:25That's 15 points.
16:26Against Milwaukee, they had 14.
16:27Right.
16:28That's 42 points.
16:29It's a 27-point difference.
16:30That's a lot.
16:31And that basically was the differential last night where you made nine, they made 17.
16:33So they outscored you by 24 from three.
16:38And yeah, that's another thing we can get into.
16:40And what's bugging me is the notion of, yeah, they have the number one defensive rating
16:46since the All-Star break.
16:47And that was going into last night.
16:48And that may be true, but these last two games, there have been a lot of open threes against
16:53them.
16:54No doubt.
16:55And these guys are knocking them down.
16:56They're pros.
16:57No doubt.
16:58Mike in Fremont is next up.
16:59Hi, Mike.
17:00Thanks for calling.
17:01Hello, Dibbs.
17:02Thanks, man.
17:03What's going on, Mike?
17:04Yeah, so you guys just mentioned defense.
17:07For me, I struggle to understand why we're playing Miami and we feel like every player
17:14deserves a double team or deserves a shift, right?
17:18So you hear a fix on the broadcast, oh, this team is a bad shooting team, you know, blah,
17:23blah, blah.
17:24It's because we give a wide open three.
17:25They had 70, what, 70 percent from three or whatever it was at one point.
17:29And we constantly, I'm watching the game and I'm constantly watching on-ball defense
17:33help.
17:34And I don't understand why that is.
17:37Why do we constantly feel like we need to shift to help the on-ball defender and leave
17:41someone wide open, right?
17:43So when Jimmy comes, what changed?
17:45Well, we have the confidence to know that we can win every game.
17:49When we're constantly giving them wide open threes, wide open layups, because someone
17:53is open by 10 feet every possession, it all starts there.
17:59Why do we feel we need to double team every single player on every single possession to
18:03give someone a wide open shot every time?
18:05I don't understand it.
18:06Mike, thanks.
18:07I'll just say this, like it's hard to do that in a catch-all way because every game is different.
18:13Every basketball team has a game plan in certain games, and they're going to pick certain players
18:19that they do not want to let beat them.
18:21So yes, that often does look like you're just handing an open three to a player, but often
18:27that is the guy they want shooting the ball.
18:29I would just respond to you with this.
18:31What you described is exactly how people defend the Warriors.
18:34It's exactly what they do.
18:36Steph Curry has the ball, hell, run three people at him.
18:39If that's going to lead to a Brandon Podjemski or Draymond Green three, we'll take it.
18:44And guess what happens?
18:45When they go in, you lose.
18:46Yes.
18:47And when you don't have them-
18:48And when they don't, you win.
18:50When they, yeah, when Steph is not there and you have other guys shooting threes, if they
18:54don't make them, then you lose.
18:56Last night, they shot 68% from three.
18:59When you go 17 to 25 from three, you're probably going to win most nights.
19:02You're going to win that game.