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00:00What in the hell is happening?
00:04Back-to-back, going up against the Knicks, and whoever you were who texted in or was
00:10on YouTube or whatever, yeah, but they didn't have Towns.
00:13Oh my God.
00:14Okay.
00:15And the Bucs didn't have Giannis.
00:16Sure.
00:17Fair.
00:18Oh, Anthony Towns is not even their best player.
00:20Dallas didn't have Anthony Davis or Luka.
00:23Mm-hmm.
00:24Yeah.
00:25They had Kyrie.
00:26Well, the Warriors didn't have Kaminga.
00:27So how about that?
00:28Yeah.
00:30No, but really.
00:31Right.
00:32Don't diminish what is clearly difficult.
00:37Look around the league.
00:38Oh, they're not playing anybody.
00:39Yeah, they are.
00:40They're on the road.
00:41Nobody else is doing this.
00:42I mean, there's a few other teams doing this, and they're all getting the praise too.
00:43The Lakers are doing this.
00:44They've moved into the two-seed, and people are legitimately scared of that team.
00:45As you should be.
00:46And they should be.
00:47Yeah.
00:48Do you know what I mean?
00:49Yeah.
00:50Yeah.
00:51Yeah.
00:52Yeah.
00:53Yeah.
00:54Yeah.
00:55Yeah.
00:56Yeah.
00:57Yeah.
00:58Yeah.
00:59That's crazy.
01:00Do you know what I mean?
01:01I don't know, man.
01:02There is no way, no how that what we're looking at is actually happening.
01:07You cannot convince me that it was that easy for Jimmy Butler to walk in and just be like,
01:15click, and suddenly everything's working.
01:19In fact, you know what the real big thing is?
01:23to me, this is the characteristic of all great athletes and teams, which is that they win
01:32even when they're not at their best, because nobody's at their best every single night.
01:37They win when they're not at their best, and we've seen that.
01:40The Warriors have not been completely that consistent.
01:43They've not been at their best every single night, but only a couple of times in the last
01:50three weeks has that led to them losing a basketball game.
01:54That's what you should be most excited about.
01:56Yeah.
01:57Philly was a case where Quentin Grimes went off and he was unguardable, and they as a
02:01team shot damn near 60%.
02:03And so, yeah, a little bit of a dip in play.
02:06You tipped the cap because Philly was amazing and you lost to Dallas because Kyrie was unguardable,
02:12but you mentioned it, like the Orlando game where you didn't get a lot from the others.
02:17Quentin Post was 7 of 9 with 18 points, but Steph was otherworldly with 56, and if Steph
02:23doesn't go for 56, you probably lose that game.
02:26You had two against Charlotte, which, OK, fine, Charlotte's one of the worst, if not
02:30the worst.
02:31It turns out Washington's beaten Charlotte three times this year or four times, so among
02:37Washington's wins, the majority of them are against Charlotte, so yeah, they're terrible.
02:42That's two of your wins.
02:43But I think about last night where New York, yes, without Karl-Anthony Towns, I get it,
02:49but they're at home, you're in the middle of a long road trip, and New York hedged down
02:54by double digits, yet you just pulled up your socks and you got after it in the third quarter
02:58and you flipped that game.
02:59Crazy.
03:00Crazy.
03:01All right, let's hear from y'all.
03:02OK?
03:03888-957-9570.
03:04Gary in Concord.
03:05Hi, Gary.
03:06Thanks for the call.
03:10Long-time listener.
03:11First-time caller.
03:13I think it's all about perspective, right?
03:16I remember when the Warriors were horrible, the 20 win seasons and stuff, and I try to
03:22explain to my son, who's 21 now, that what he's seeing, what he's experienced is so outside
03:28the realm of norm that he can't grasp how unreal this has been, the last decade of watching
03:36Steph, not just Steph as the player, but Steph as the human being, and furthermore, Steve
03:42Kerr as the human being, and what that's meant to the organization, what it's meant
03:46to the Bay Area.
03:48We are experiencing something that is so incredible that I don't know that we understand it, because
03:53it's like being with someone that you've been with for so long, over time, it's natural
03:59to get anesthetized to living with them and experiencing who they are.
04:04We get spoiled.
04:06We are so incredibly spoiled that I don't think we will actually truly understand this
04:11until we no longer have him around to enjoy.
04:16The way the world is today, this is such an incredible break for all of us that I am so
04:22incredibly humbled by the experience that I've been able to witness for the last decade
04:27plus.
04:28Having Jimmy Butler just made...
04:31I'm blown away by how well they've done the last couple weeks.
04:35The cumulative IQ has just gone up off the charts, and there's something special.
04:41After watching last night's game, I reached out to a few of my buddies that I haven't
04:45talked with in quite a while, and I just said, something's going on.
04:48This is different.
04:50They got mojo.
04:51They really do, and I'm excited, and hopefully this will end like Draymond thought.
04:57One last thing, if somebody did not see the Iguodala speech, they need to watch or listen
05:01to the whole thing.
05:02It's pretty powerful, pretty interesting stuff.
05:05What he said about Steph was dead on, that Steph may know himself, but I don't think
05:11he really knows himself also.
05:13That's all I have to say.
05:15Gary, thank you.
05:16Great call.
05:17Thank you for making that call.
05:18We really appreciate having you on.
05:21When he talks about not comprehending the depth of what we might be experiencing with
05:27Steph Curry, I'd respond with this, I don't think it's possible to.
05:31I don't think that you can fully grasp things like that when you're experiencing them in
05:38the moment.
05:39It's too much.
05:40Like for us or for him or for them?
05:43Probably all of it, but I don't want to speak for him and the experience he's having because
05:47he is him.
05:48He's the one.
05:49Right.
05:50He's doing it, and so that's a completely different thing.
05:53I just mean the gravity of an athlete and his place in history and what it all means
06:01in terms of context.
06:03I don't think you can know those things fully until they move on, and you can have the feeling
06:11of missing them or not seeing it anymore, and sometimes you need that.
06:16That's that old saying, if you don't know what you got until it's gone, you're not going
06:19to really know what warrior basketball without Steph Curry, what that is like until we experience
06:25it.
06:26My guess is that there's even more gravity to this than we realize.
06:31Right, and I do think that you can have that awareness and you can have a great appreciation
06:36because you don't know what's going to happen.
06:38I think about Giants baseball when we got to the post-Bonds era where Barry Bonds was
06:44a show and you stopped what you were doing every time he was up, and you can put it into
06:49the context of what he allegedly put into his body and whether or not you thought that
06:54that was real or fair or whatever.
06:56You can look at it that way.
06:58I looked at it as the greatest homerun hitter of all time about to get Nat Bat, and it was
07:04exciting and you watched it, and then when he retired, you didn't know what was going
07:08to come, and what eventually came sooner rather than later was Dynasty.
07:13Three titles in five years, so I'm not saying that you're going to get this out of the Steph
07:17Curry, but in the moment, I was appreciative of Barry Bonds, and I thought that he could
07:22have played another year or two.
07:23He thought so too, and when it ended, you did have that emptiness of, man, I'm going
07:28to miss watching that, and with Steph Curry, whatever happens this year, playoff run, no
07:34playoff run, whatever, watching him play basketball and watching him be a part of this team is
07:40something very special, and he's about to be 37, and so we don't get to have this for
07:45forever.
07:46We might get two more, three more, four more.
07:49Could we get five more years of Steph Curry?
07:51Oh, God.
07:52I mean, you never know nowadays.
07:54Yeah, no, you don't know.
07:56That feels like a lot, but I guess that's kind of ... We got on this conversation because
08:01that's sort of my number one reaction today is there's a thankfulness and an excitement
08:08to the mere idea that after spending a year and a half, honestly now, go to your warrior
08:16dark space.
08:18We spent a year and a half wondering if there was ever going to be another relevant game
08:21again.
08:23You really did.
08:24If you're honest with yourself, you did.
08:27We've spent a year and a half wondering if there was ever going to be another relevant
08:31game, and we made games relevant that were irrelevant.
08:36The play-in game at Sacramento, you lost by 100 points, and Clay's staring at the sky,
08:42and that was simply to get to another play-in game.
08:44It's an irrelevant basketball game.
08:47Only because they lost.
08:48No, because even if they win, they might lose.
08:49It's an elimination game.
08:50Yeah, but the one that you guys have been telling me is the play-in tournament.
08:53It's a big deal.
08:54No, it's fun, but it's not relevant in terms of what Steph Curry's talking about.
08:59They're talking about actual playoff relevance.
09:04One game in a play-in tournament is irrelevant.
09:07That's not a big game in the great landscape of the NBA.
09:11This year, they started out really nice, and then they fall to 500, and truly, I think
09:17very, even optimistic-minded people looked at this and went, come on, man.
09:23They're too old.
09:24It's over.
09:25We're not doing this anymore, and now, today, it really looks like they're going to do that.
09:31I don't know what they're going to win, but those are going to be some...
09:34It looks like we're headed toward, and experiencing, some really relevant basketball at an age
09:40where we didn't know if we'd get that again, and the Jimmy Butler trade is the number one
09:46thing on the list to be thankful for that this is happening.
09:49Yeah, and if you think about relevant, meaningful basketball, and you want to skip ahead 20
09:54games, and I know you don't, but when you think about what a playoff series might be,
09:59if you're the five seed, and it's Memphis, yeah, sign me up for that, because that's
10:04always a rivalry that's deep-seated.
10:07If you're the six, and it's Denver, of course you want that.
10:11If you happen to be the seven, and you take on the Lakers, well, that's monster as well,
10:15and if you get through all round, and you get OKC or the Lakers, I mean, no matter who
10:20you face in the Western Conference, there's intrigue, there's relevance, to use your word,
10:26there's rivalry, there's a lot of heat.
10:30If the Warriors could just get to that, and that's what you were talking about all year,
10:33the Warriors just want to get Steph Curry a chance, get him an at-bat, get him a bite
10:38of the apple, well, it's looking like they're going apple shopping, and how do you like
10:43them apples?
10:44Because they're going to be eating some apples here in April.
10:46As much as these are the two matchups that I hear a lot of Warrior fans say that they
10:49don't want, I think this also creates a real fascination with the race between Denver and
10:55the Lakers for that two seed.
10:58Think about what they're looking at.
11:00If I'm Denver and the Lakers, as much as, again, Warrior fans are afraid of that matchup,
11:05if I'm Denver and the Lakers, do I want the Warriors, or do I want that two seed so that
11:12I can play the first team to come out of the play-in tournament, which is going to be some
11:17sort of concoction of Clippers or Kings or whatever.
11:21Yeah, Minnesota.
11:22I mean, now, Minnesota's an interesting squad.
11:25It may well end up being Houston, for crying out loud.
11:27Yeah, maybe.
11:28Minnesota and the Warriors both have the two easiest schedules.
11:30They're all healthy as well.
11:33And so, I don't know.
11:34But if I'm Denver and the Lakers, I want no—Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler?
11:39I do not want that showing up in the first round.
11:41If I've got a chance to play Shin Goon, or—
11:45Don't hate on the Goon.
11:46Honestly, if I've got a chance to do that or take on DeMar DeRozan, like, yeah, let
11:54me avoid the Warriors, please.
11:55Of course.
11:56Levine and DeRozan, or Steph and Jimmy, yeah, it's not even close.
11:59And that's where, you know, and I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves, but late
12:03in the year there might be some intrigue, there might be some lightweight shenanigans
12:08with teams trying to position themselves accordingly to get the matchup that's most favorable.
12:14Do we take requests on this show?
12:16Probably.
12:17OK, we got a request.
12:18408.
12:19Mark, I haven't heard you in a while, but I'd like to hear you say you were wrong about
12:22the butler trade.
12:24I was wrong about the butler trade.
12:31And you've already admitted to that.
12:32I know, but he hasn't heard this in a while.
12:33I know.
12:34So 408, now you have to call and say, my bad for not listening to the show enough.
12:38Yeah, there you go.
12:39OK?
12:40Yeah.
12:41If we're all going to be here admitting our mistakes, let's do it together.
12:45Right.
12:46I was wrong.
12:47Yeah, absolutely.
12:48To your point of the show today, did any of you think that it would be this good?
12:54My only concern was grumpy Jimmy without an extension doesn't want to play here and ends
12:59up opting in and now you're screwed.
13:01Well, he got traded, he got a new deal, and he's been happy, Jimmy.
13:06But did I think that they'd come out and be 10-1 in games he played?
13:10Come on, bro.
13:11And the thing that I've admitted that I was wrong about was the notion that Steph can't
13:15do it every night anymore.
13:17And well, Steph is now averaging almost 30 a game since Jimmy has come.
13:22So it turns out Steph actually can still do it every night.
13:26He just needs somebody to take the weight off his shoulders.
13:29No doubt.
13:30I think we've learned this a lot.
13:31And this is one of the reasons because I'm not going to say don't say people are washed
13:35because sometimes they are like it happens to every single player.
13:40But one thing that I'll never do, I'll never use these microphones to say is to tell someone
13:45that they should retire.
13:47If somebody's offering them a job, I wouldn't.
13:50I would take the job and keep on playing.
13:53And that's kind of my spin on this idea of when we sort of flick people off like, okay,
14:02they're done now.
14:03How many times do you do that?
14:04And then all of a sudden something changes in the water.
14:08There's a new ingredient in the stew and you're like, oh, oh, they're not done anymore.
14:13I remember having that feeling about like, this is random, but Curtis Martin, Curtis
14:18Martin, you're like, oh dude, you're a running back and you turn 30.
14:20So hey, kind of had a bad year.
14:23You're done.
14:24And then he like went to the Jets or something changed and he was awesome.
14:30He was awesome.
14:31Look, we did it in this town to Brady.
14:34I was right there.
14:36King of the keep garage.
14:38Why would we trade?
14:39Why would we trade Jimmy Garoppolo for Tom Brady?
14:43Yeah, that one came back on you.
14:45Garoppolo was fresh off of a Superbowl appearance and Brady looked like he was washed.
14:52How are we doing with that take?
14:54Oh boy.
14:55Yeah.
14:56So like for everybody in the staff looks like he's really declining camp, 888-957-9570.
15:08No, he doesn't.
15:09Well, not anymore.
15:10No, he doesn't.
15:11Not anymore.
15:12He's not declining at all.
15:13Now that he's got Jimmy, he's 56 in Orlando.
15:16Stiney, get off vacation.
15:18We need you.
15:19He ain't declining at all.
15:23He's ascending at age 36.
15:25He's now just 18 threes away from 4,000.
15:29And I heard Del Curry on with Tim Roy press table before the Charlotte game and Del was
15:35talking about it.
15:36Yep.
15:374,000 is coming up.
15:384,000.
15:39It's like he's about to hit 4,000 threes and right now he has an 876 three-point lead on
15:45number two, James Hodden.
15:48So James ain't going to catch him.
15:49He's the best, man.
15:50Dame.
15:51It'd be hard-pressed for Dame to get there.
15:52Dame's not going to do it.
15:53Well, Steph's going to end up playing, I do think, a couple, two, three more years.
15:57And that's why I asked Steve Kerr about that.
15:59Like have you thought about like if Steph is going to stay, are you going to stay, Steve?
16:05Because it feels like you guys are kind of linked, like as a coach, you want to walk
16:09away from this?
16:10I think he's given us and others the wink-wink, nod-nod on this a couple of times now.
16:17He'd leave him.
16:19He's leaving when Steph leaves.
16:20When he leaves.
16:21Yeah.
16:22Are you not leaving before?
16:23Probably not.
16:24I don't think so.
16:25I probably not, but I don't know what that number of years are, but maybe it's not decided
16:31yet.
16:32But he's not going to do this forever.
16:35Right, but I don't think that he's leaving before.
16:38Probably not.
16:39I don't know how you could or would.
16:40Yeah, I don't know why you would.
16:42And I've heard Bob Fitzgerald kind of say the same thing about his gig, like, you know,
16:46I'm going to be here as long as Steph's here and then we'll figure it out from there.
16:50Honestly, if you're doing...
16:51He'd probably stay.
16:52Maybe.
16:53Bob will stay.
16:54I mean, he doesn't have to.
16:55No, he doesn't have to.
16:56Bob does a lot of other things and you can, you know, pick and choose your gigs and whatnot.
17:00When you are a part of this, how could you possibly leave?
17:05Like as a head coach, you're coaching Steph Curry and the very idea of what he does, forget
17:11winning and losing, but to be able to coach that and watch that night in and night out,
17:16that's got to be damn awesome.
17:18He tells us every time he still loves what he does, still having a great time.
17:22He's out at a dinner and a Broadway show tonight in New York City and getting, what's he getting,
17:2916 million a year?
17:30Yeah, something like that.
17:31Come on, man.
17:32What?
17:33What?
17:34To do what?
17:35Retire to do what?
17:36Yep.
17:37How old is Steve?
17:38Not even an old man.
17:39He's not even 60.
17:40Yeah.
17:41He's, I think, 59.
17:42He might be 60 because I think he was a class of 82 in high school, so he's damn near 60,
17:49but 60 is a new 50 now.
17:52Right?
17:53Ask Diney.
17:54He's in Cancun.
17:55Let's go to Rob in Richmond.
17:57Hey, Rob, what's up?
17:58Hey, fellas.
17:59How you guys doing today?
18:00We're good, man.
18:01Yep.
18:02Right on.
18:03Right on.
18:04Hey, so earlier, Willer, you were asking, you know, what, is there something that could
18:11end up, you know, throwing this off the rails in a year and a half?
18:14And I don't think the answer is yes on that, and the reason why I don't believe that is
18:19because I think if they win championships and they stay healthy, I think, and also there's
18:26levels to organizations, this is as good as it gets, you know, the Warriors shout out
18:32knockout event.
18:33That was a beautiful, beautiful thing we did on Monday.
18:35It was great meeting you guys, but I think that if the Warriors stay healthy and they
18:41win championships, Jimmy Butler is not going to be a disgruntled Jimmy Butler.
18:46He's going to be a completely different Jimmy Butler that, you know, that we've experienced
18:54in the past.
18:55This is a whole nother thing, and I think that that's why the energy behind it is so
19:01different and the vibes are so good.
19:04By the way, that was a great interview you guys did with Steve Kerr, top notch.
19:09He does not get enough credit.
19:13It's just, you know, it's a beautiful thing to see, but at the end of the day, if they
19:17can stay healthy and they win championships, and when I say championships, I mean multiple,
19:24you're going to see a different Jimmy Butler come the end of an extension or whatever that
19:28looks like.
19:29It's just not going to look the same.
19:31The Warriors are different.
19:33Thank you guys.
19:34You guys are great.
19:35Rob, thank you.
19:36And while I'm not going to disagree with Rob, I think he sets the bar quite frankly too
19:41high.
19:42I think Jimmy can be happy without multiple championships.
19:47Like to me, happiness for Jimmy Butler, and I don't know the man, but he got his extension,
19:54so check the box of, I feel wanted and loved at work.
20:00So there's that, and everyone wants that.
20:02Then you need to enjoy the people you're working with, and at least in this honeymoon phase,
20:07he's got that.
20:08And then lastly, I think you want to feel like you've got a shot, a continued shot at
20:14success.
20:15I don't think that these players demand from themselves that they win the title every year.
20:20That's not realistic.
20:21They know that.
20:22There's a self-awareness.
20:23It's like when Giannis was asked if he was a failure because he got knocked out of the
20:27playoffs.
20:28It's like, I don't know if you've looked around, there's some other good players in the league
20:31too.
20:32You know, this isn't, we don't just show up and roll the ball out there and win.
20:36So if the Warriors are continuing to win most of their games, and they're having some success
20:40in the playoffs, if they fall a little short, I don't think you're going to get a disgruntled
20:45Jimmy Butler all of a sudden.
20:46He's got everything he asked for right now.
20:48Yeah, which is money and talent around him and a shot.
20:53And if this continues and you get a real shot to do it, then that's great.
20:56And it's an organization that supports its players.
20:59So that should be what Jimmy's looking for.
21:02I do wonder about when we get through next year and he's down to the final year of his
21:07deal, if at that point, Steph has gotten an extension another year and Draymond's gotten
21:12a little taste a little bit more.
21:14Does Jimmy then say, Hey guys, this is going so good.
21:18Where's my 62 million?
21:19Is it going so good?
21:20It's probably the question.
21:21Right?
21:22Exactly.
21:23Let's see how it's going so far.
21:24It's going pretty well.
21:25Good.
21:26If I'm Jimmy, I'm asking for an extension right now.
21:2710 and one when I play, he did, he did ask for an extension, tack on an extra year and
21:33he got it.
21:34And he got it.