"If the Founder’s Narrative is Banned, It Will Be Unacceptable" Faisal Chaudhry's Important Statement
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00:00No, leadership, the revolution was already over, it was our workers who kept it alive.
00:05On 4th October, 26th November, the workers came and led.
00:09Pushpa Bibi, Banded Dada, Shatimi, our workers.
00:13Leadership could not show up, except for one or two exceptions.
00:16Okay, sir, the issue is that it's a war of narratives.
00:20And you saw Imran Khan's narrative is always ahead of his political opponents.
00:24Whether he is in jail or outside, because I also, I have been the contributor
00:29and I narrated it.
00:33So, his narrative, if it doesn't come out, then you will be in these communicators.
00:40So, this is important.
00:43The question you just raised, is this a general order?
00:49I have asked the court reporters.
00:51So, the court reporters have told me that this is a general order.
00:55Exceptions have not been created.
00:57Meaning, if exceptions have not been created, then whoever will meet me,
01:01or other friends, they will not be able to talk.
01:05So, if this is a general order, and the judge forgot to write a statement,
01:09and it came that whatever meetings will take place,
01:12after that you will not be able to have a political conversation,
01:15then your circle will be permanently silenced.
01:19Then you will not be able to pressurize Islamabad.
01:21Definitely, I think that…
01:22Is there such a plan?
01:23It doesn't make any sense.
01:24We don't have any such plan.
01:26Would you be surprised if such a decision comes?
01:29I don't think such a decision will come.
01:31I think the pressure outside Adyala, which is misguided pressure,
01:34which hogs the TV screens.
01:37Sometimes Aleema Sahiba is doing it, sometimes my brother is doing it,
01:40sometimes Salman Akram Rai Sahab is doing it.
01:42Then, X, Y, Z, whoever is the party's leadership,
01:45they come and sell their own lies.
01:49And the most important thing in this is,
01:51that day I saw that Salman Akram Rai Sahab is standing,
01:54he is talking, and with him is Indizar Panjoda Sahab.
01:57When they were doing the pressurization,
02:00they also had their own alarming situation or expressions,
02:04on that whole thing, that what are they doing, what are they talking about.
02:07So, moving away from the black and white…
02:09No, that is your assumption.
02:11No, it is not an assumption, it is visible.
02:13Facial expressions.
02:14Tell me this, why do you believe this?
02:18This has never been discussed before,
02:21and I think sometimes you have to do it spontaneously.
02:25Obviously, Salman is a senior lawyer.
02:28What will be the impact of this, if after 15 minutes,
02:31you come to Islamabad and…
02:33Sir, this is very confusing.
02:35I don't think, knowing your situation in the court…
02:39See, this is a political case.
02:41These are not legal cases.
02:43That is why you saw that all the petitions went to the larger bench.
02:47Now, the case will go to the larger bench.
02:50Now, if a blanket order comes to the larger bench,
02:53then it will be a very strong order.
02:56The narrative that comes to the Khans,
02:58it comes on social media, it comes in tweets,
03:00the conversation that Leema Khan does,
03:02it is in her own words.
03:04So, in her own words, there is an expression,
03:07there is a statement,
03:09it has a political work on it,
03:11it has an effect on the party.
03:13That effect will not be in someone else's presence.
03:16So, what Leema Khan does,
03:18for example, if there is a ban on Leema Khan's conversation,
03:21it would be a serious blow,
03:23as far as I am concerned,
03:25in my personal opinion.
03:27Because she talks there,
03:29then you see, a whole science…
03:31First, there was an impression that your party has been choked.
03:34Now, what is it?
03:35Is it an impression that your narrative is being choked?
03:38Look, what you said in the beginning,
03:40that is very important.
03:42That by doing part and parcel,
03:44that is, first you…
03:46Death by a thousand cuts.
03:48Yes.
03:50First, you put a ban on Imran Khan's picture,
03:52you put a ban on his name,
03:54you put a ban on his voice.
03:56One day, a picture came out of the Supreme Court.
03:58Now, if there is a ban on his narrative,
04:00then this is unacceptable.
04:02At least, political workers like us…
04:04Have you accepted it?
04:06Look, this will happen,
04:08we will fight it out.
04:10Obviously, it was my opinion
04:12that we should have fought it out.
04:14That we should have submitted it.
04:16But obviously, when this decision will come,
04:18there is a lot of confusion.
04:20Because one thing,
04:22the reporters are saying,
04:24that it is a general order.
04:26Mr. Rai is talking about something else.
04:28So, this is a confusion.
04:30I think this decision will come,
04:32that whatever will be discussed,
04:34whatever will be discussed,
04:36will not be shared outside.
04:38Otherwise, what is the difference
04:40between Diyala and Islamabad?
04:42It is a 15-minute drive.
04:44You can go out of Diyala,
04:46you can go to Dagil and talk.
04:48Then your purpose will not be fulfilled.
04:50Why would you just do Diyala?
04:52What difference does it make from the gate?
04:54Then all these hassles will never happen.
04:56As I told you,
04:58the hot, fresh work,
05:00that is very confusing.
05:02Other people from your party
05:04will come and discuss.
05:06In the evening programs,
05:08all these things will be made.
05:10There will be discussions.
05:12There is no freedom of expression.
05:14We are not putting any restrictions
05:16on freedom of expression.
05:18It is not universal.
05:20It is a code.
05:22Logical.
05:24So, why can't we talk at the gate of Diyala,
05:26which can be done in Islamabad?
05:28Explain me its logic.
05:30When they meet,
05:32they misuse it.
05:34After the meeting,
05:36they come out of jail and
05:38make political statements.
05:40What is the problem?
05:42If I meet a political person,
05:44even if I am his lawyer,
05:46I talk to him about politics.
05:48I talk to my client.
05:50In the whole world,
05:52apart from the jail,
05:54the media stands with the lawyers
05:56outside the courtroom.
05:58Why can't we talk right now?
06:00Why?
06:02I don't think we should spread
06:04a sensation.
06:06Then you will say that they
06:08cannot talk.
06:10But it is not for me to say.
06:12The court has imposed it.
06:14The government has not imposed it.
06:16You are the Minister of State
06:18for law and justice.
06:20You should be able to explain it to us.
06:22I cannot regulate the judges.
06:24Do you agree with this?
06:26I agree.
06:28If you agree,
06:30then justify it.
06:32Sensationalize it.
06:3415 minutes, 2 miles away,
06:36they are sensationalizing it.
06:38What difference does it make?
06:40What will happen then?
06:42It will become a new norm.
06:44People are used to
06:46coming out of jail
06:48and press conference.
06:50People will know that
06:52every 30 minutes there is a press conference.
06:54This is not logical.
06:56You cannot stand here
06:58and do this.
07:00I think a lot of
07:02their people
07:04and their party members
07:06whether they are leaders
07:08or not,
07:10they go to be seen.