#ENVIVO-Espíritu Deportivo / Entrevista con Luisaura Jesmin, guerrera de la endometriosis 20/03/2025
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00:00God bless you. God bless you. Friends, I am Rafi de León.
00:06Thank you for joining us in a new edition of Espiritu Deportivo.
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00:24We are with this, your space, Espiritu Deportivo.
00:28We are always characterized by wearing the human cut of sport.
00:34And today we have a very special guest.
00:38Continuing the previous program of endometriosis.
00:42Speaking of which, March is the month of this disease that attacks so many ladies.
00:49And it is known as the silent disease.
00:53And I give you the introduction, the presentation of our guest, Luisaura.
00:59Luisaura, welcome to Espiritu Deportivo. How do you feel?
01:02Very good. Thank you, Rafi, for the invitation. Really.
01:06I am very grateful that you took me into account to be in this space.
01:10How good, how good.
01:12We are going to know a little about Luisaura's life.
01:16What sports disciplines have you practiced to then fall into the central issue of endometriosis?
01:23How have you been a warrior of this pathology?
01:27Thank you. The truth is that, well, my name is Luisaura.
01:31I am currently 31 years old.
01:34I was recently diagnosed with endometriosis in November 2024.
01:39That is, I am just 4 or 5 years old.
01:42But really, the general symptomatology of what the disease is,
01:46I have been feeling it, perhaps I could tell you, since I was 13 years old.
01:50And I did not know until a little while ago.
01:53Because of the fact that precisely when I was a teenager,
01:57I entered that process of, so to speak, of training.
02:02I started to get very sick.
02:04I had a very addicted adolescence in terms of health.
02:08And I, from the age of 18, I start exercising.
02:12I have always had to deal a lot with overweight, the issue of weight.
02:16And always at that moment I said, well, I want to start exercising.
02:20And I started with everything and asthma issues.
02:23I had asthma.
02:24Exercise at home.
02:26Trying to look for well-being.
02:28In the end, I have always said that exercise, even if it is walking,
02:31little, 5 minutes, 10, 15 is better than nothing.
02:36I kept practically all my 20s in that gym routine.
02:42I ran for a while, in the mirror.
02:45I have never closed myself to explore in that issue of anything
02:50that provides well-being at the level of exercise.
02:53But as the years went by, my health went, so to speak,
02:58complicating a lot.
03:00I made the decision already in 2022 to establish clear goals
03:05in terms of my sports and health discipline.
03:08There I went recurrently almost 4 or 5 times a week to the gym.
03:14I did exercise every day until 5 in the afternoon.
03:17I, from 5 to 7 in the afternoon, did exercise.
03:21And the truth is that more than the issue of exercise,
03:23it is also the community that is formed.
03:25I had a very nice exercise community,
03:27which the truth is that they made that process of discipline
03:30was much more rooted towards me.
03:35And the truth is that I already saw it as part of my life.
03:39Every day was like my ...
03:41I have been working remotely for a few years,
03:43in my house, since the pandemic.
03:45And that was like my release from the day,
03:48go out to move the body.
03:51The last year, then, I begin to feel that,
03:55while I am precisely exercising,
03:58or moments when I have to exercise,
04:00my body begins to inflame, or is no longer performing the same,
04:04my energy was not the same,
04:06even though I usually lift a lot of weight,
04:10I really like the exercise of lifting weights.
04:13Arteriosclerosis.
04:14Yes, dead weight, arteriosclerosis,
04:18exercises of the lower limb.
04:22And yet I felt that, in the first place,
04:25that my metabolism and my body were not advancing,
04:28that I felt more and more inflamed,
04:31and that they were giving me some pains
04:33in the process of doing certain exercises
04:35that I was no longer enjoying.
04:37It was not part of the pain of the exercise.
04:39I said it hurts.
04:40There was no recovery.
04:42There was no recovery, and in fact I left with more pain.
04:45And then I began to lack more and more.
04:48I collided with the periods, I collided with ovulation,
04:51and I began to lack more and more at the gym.
04:54And then this search also begins,
04:57what is happening to my body that I am not understanding,
05:00because I really am not feeling well.
05:03And in fact, all this search begins,
05:08what is happening to Luis now.
05:10In that sense, it should be noted that endometriosis
05:13is an inflammation of the endometrium.
05:15In your case, ladies,
05:17sometimes because of menstrual periods and so on,
05:22they tend to understand that it is something normal
05:26what is happening to them.
05:28But as I mentioned in the intro,
05:30in the introduction of the program of sports spirit,
05:33it is the silent disease.
05:36That is why there are ladies who do not detect it in time,
05:40that change in their body.
05:42In your particular case, what was the trigger
05:45that told you, listen to me, you have to go to the specialist?
05:49The trigger was my mental health.
05:55My mental health, due to the hormonal imbalance
05:58that my body was already carrying,
06:01began to lead to a point where I myself said,
06:05I am not like this, this is not normal,
06:07it is not normal to cry,
06:09it is not normal to feel the pain that I am feeling,
06:11these changes of drastic moods.
06:14I did not have a situation to be in a depression per se
06:18or in a situation of health or family
06:23that made me feel uncomfortable.
06:27And I began to notice pattern changes in my behaviors
06:31and I began to notice them.
06:33And I began to realize that they coincided
06:35with my pain of ovulation and period.
06:38But notice that I am talking to you
06:40that I had to get to a point
06:42where the disease began to affect my mental health
06:45and not the pain that I felt.
06:48Because for me, all the time, the pain was totally normal.
06:52I mean, it was like I remember
06:56that I had my first period at 13 years old
06:59and from that moment I was told,
07:01look, menstruation hurts.
07:04And since it came to me, I began to feel pain
07:06and for me that pain was normal.
07:09And I am talking to a 13-year-old girl
07:11who from that age begins to normalize the pain.
07:14And I put myself in the place of all the women of our generation
07:18that our mothers perhaps suffered it,
07:21at that time perhaps the disease was not diagnosed
07:24and today we have better specialists
07:27who grew up with that belief that menstruation,
07:30the menstrual period hurts
07:33and they were going through that as an inheritance
07:35from generation to generation.
07:37So we came across this idea that I grew up with the pain,
07:41for me it was normal to take pills,
07:44inject myself, go to emergencies,
07:46have to return from a weekend running to an emergency for a pain.
07:51But above all, that I had many years
07:55suffering from general gastrointestinal problems
07:58and an inflammation in the bladder, a pain in the bladder
08:02that over time, since 2019, I stopped perceiving.
08:06Because the doctors told me, I went to a urologist,
08:09he told me, you don't have any infection, nothing happens,
08:13I don't see anything else in any sonography.
08:16And after you have already gone two or three times to a doctor
08:19and he tells you that you have nothing, they send you pills,
08:22you at home say, well, I have nothing.
08:25You normalize the pain and you continue to live with the pain,
08:28you continue to live with the inflammation,
08:30to the point where the pain becomes absent.
08:33Your body makes the pain become absent, even if it is.
08:36Speaking of what you are mentioning, Luisaura,
08:39do you consider that the specialists who treated your case
08:44were indifferent to you?
08:47Wow, I think it has become very normal
08:52that the period of menstruation must hurt.
08:55And that in general, if nothing appears in studies,
08:59nothing happens, you take this pill, you go home.
09:04What happens?
09:06Endometriosis is not a gynecological disease.
09:09And nowadays it has been shown that it is not gynecological.
09:12It is a systemic inflammatory chronic disease,
09:15which means that you need specialists
09:19who not only cover the gynecological part,
09:22but also the gastrointestinal part, urological,
09:25sometimes even neurological,
09:28because it involves a lot of the nerves of the pelvis.
09:31So when you go to a gastroenterologist,
09:34because I tell you, I have many years with excellent health professionals,
09:38it has not been because of lack of doctors that I had not reached my diagnosis,
09:42but because I think the correct questions are not asked.
09:45I can't say I've had a bad gynecologist
09:48or I've had a bad gastroenterologist or I've had a bad urologist.
09:51The correct questions are not being asked.
09:54It is not a matter of indifference, then?
09:56There is indifference, because I did have, for example,
09:59in the gynecological part, let's say I have these doctors
10:03who saw me arrive with recurrent pelvic inflammations,
10:07due to liquid inflammations in the sacrum,
10:11which is an infection that occurs due to pelvic inflammation, right?
10:16They told me, that can happen to a woman once or twice in life.
10:23And I told them, but it has happened to me more than five times since 2017.
10:28It's an unbearable pain, it's a pain that you can't move,
10:31you can't stand up straight,
10:33and they send you a citromycin of one gram,
10:36ovules, and for your case.
10:39If you had to do a simile in terms of that pain,
10:42so that people can have an idea
10:45of what you would compare it to in the case of men,
10:48because also this program, Espiritu Deportivo,
10:50is very much followed by the male audience.
10:53So that they have an idea, give me a comparison, please.
10:56I don't know how men will feel the pain,
10:59but yes, for example, they have told me that the pain of stones in the kidneys
11:04for men is very strong,
11:06that it is an incapacitating pain,
11:08it is a pain that you can't move from bed,
11:11well, I could compare it to that.
11:14How has been the receptivity of your family and friends
11:19in terms of the process that you have lived?
11:22Wow, the truth is that my family has been a super important component in this process.
11:28Sincerely, as since the last year,
11:31I had been presenting many health complications in general
11:37and without specifications, for example.
11:40I had hospitalizations due to inflammation of the intestine.
11:43In which I referred to the gynecologist and the gastroenterologist
11:49that happened to me when I ovulated on the left side
11:52and that kind of inflamed the intestine.
11:55But there I return again to the part of the connection, right?
11:59To say, we are going to correlate what is happening.
12:03If the gastroenterologist knew endometriosis
12:05or if the gynecologist saw a little beyond the organs of the pelvis,
12:10well, maybe he could endorse that it could be endometriosis.
12:14But my family in all that process supported me a lot.
12:17When the diagnosis arrived, the truth is that I recluded myself a lot.
12:20It hit me very hard because there is a part of you that says,
12:23thank you, father God, because finally, after so many years looking for answers,
12:28you are giving me answers.
12:30But there is another part that says, why did I have to wait so long?
12:34Why did so much time pass?
12:37Eight years have passed.
12:38Today, I have my intestines affected or stuck to the left ovary.
12:47The right ovary has an endometrium,
12:49that is, I have my fertility compromised on both sides.
12:54My bladder has lost, the nerves of the bladder were so affected
12:59by so many years of inflammation that I stopped noticing
13:03that there are nerves in my bladder that have no mobility.
13:07No sensitivity.
13:09They have lost their sensitivity and today I am taking,
13:12in fact, I have been taking pelvic floor physiotherapy since November
13:16to try to revive those muscles of the pelvis.
13:20I want to continue with the same thesis,
13:25but now from the point of view of the athlete.
13:29From the point of view of Luisaura,
13:33why does she consider that there are athletes who shut up the disease?
13:38You, who were an athlete, who practiced sports.
13:42What happens is that there is a part within you that,
13:45as they normalize the pain so much,
13:48you begin to tell yourself that you are being very sensitive
13:52or that you are being very grumpy.
13:54And I went many times with pain to exercise
13:58because there is something that tells you,
14:00you are being irresponsible with the discipline,
14:02with what you are doing,
14:04and you are missing a commitment that you have.
14:06But it does not mean that the pain is not there.
14:09Simply that there comes the part of taking care of your body,
14:12despite, which is something that I have learned now,
14:15to take respective breaks when your body really needs it.
14:19Because at that moment, although the exercise is well-being
14:22and it is very good for health,
14:25and I really miss it a lot because I had to,
14:27in December I had to suspend it until my surgery
14:31so that the right ovary, the endometrium cyst that I have,
14:35would not explode.
14:38So I have been doing stretching exercises,
14:41a little Pilates at home,
14:44I go out for a walk to the mirror,
14:46I do stretching exercises, a little yoga.
14:49I have been looking for certain alternative things
14:52that obviously do not replace the type of exercise
14:56that I used to do, but that still provide a little well-being.
15:00However, that pressure that I think all,
15:04I imagine that all athletes put themselves in front of pain,
15:07and especially women,
15:09I have the period, it hurts me, but I still have to go play,
15:12or I still have to go exercise my commitment to the discipline,
15:15it is also very rooted in the fact that
15:18they have normalized the pain in a way
15:20in that both for society it is imperceptible,
15:23for the working environment it is imperceptible,
15:26and in the medical community,
15:28unfortunately, in some environments it is also imperceptible.
15:32Luisaura, I want you to then
15:35take advantage of the sports spirit cameras,
15:40so that from that accumulated experience,
15:43you create an organigram
15:45of what would be the first step that that woman has to take
15:49that can present those pathologies.
15:53What is the first step to take,
15:57that is, that specialist, that you suggest,
16:00look, I prefer that she assist this doctor,
16:03and then from there the others are unleashed.
16:06Okay, I'm going to start first
16:08talking a little bit about the symptoms.
16:10Why? Because to talk about the disease,
16:12I have to talk about the symptoms,
16:14that people limit themselves only perhaps to pelvic pain,
16:17or that the menstrual period hurts a lot,
16:19but the reality is that it is not like that.
16:21There are many women who do not even
16:23get to feel the pain of the period,
16:25but nevertheless they can present gastrointestinal problems,
16:29and they can be confused with food intolerances.
16:32For example, I have years of gluten intolerance,
16:36lactose, certain vegetables, some meats,
16:38and I thought that all this came from a gastrointestinal problem,
16:43but what happens, endometriosis,
16:45which is a systemic disease that attacks so many organs,
16:48and your immune system,
16:50the body becomes susceptible to have comorbidities of other diseases,
16:55such as gastrointestinal problems, cystitis interstitial,
16:59in the case of the bladder,
17:01or other complications of the bladder.
17:03In my case, I have hypertonic bladder,
17:05and problems with eviction,
17:07that is, my bladder, the muscle,
17:09being so tense,
17:11it does not relax completely,
17:13and it does not make a complete emptying.
17:15Nowadays, obviously, I am dealing with this whole issue,
17:18I have a team of urologists,
17:20the gastrointestinal part too,
17:23but apart from this,
17:25I think the most common symptom of endometriosis,
17:27and the one that we silence the most,
17:29is chronic fatigue.
17:31People confuse fatigue with fatigue.
17:33Fatigue is a feeling of extreme fatigue,
17:36in which you have a feeling that you can not get out of bed,
17:39of how tired you feel,
17:41but it is also the feeling that when you are going to have a flu,
17:44that your whole body hurts, your joints hurt,
17:46your bones hurt, your back hurts,
17:49and days go by in that state of chronic fatigue and exhaustion,
17:54and you say, wow, I'm not sleeping well,
17:56and you say, yes, I'm sleeping well,
17:58but I'm in an episode of chronic fatigue.
18:02Vitamin deficiency,
18:04pain in sexual relations,
18:06hormonal alterations,
18:08what happens is that many doctors,
18:10since you go with menstrual pain,
18:12or abundant bleeding,
18:14they put you on anticonceptives,
18:16and the anticonceptives are good,
18:18perhaps to calm the bleeding and the pain,
18:20but they are hiding the disease,
18:22and the disease does not stop growing,
18:24which is what happened to me.
18:26They make it worse.
18:28It is growing, because in all those years,
18:30I had since 2018 on anticonceptives,
18:32I decided to leave it in 2023,
18:34to lose weight and have a healthier life,
18:36because hormones are not healthy.
18:40And when I left the hormones,
18:42the disease took a year to cause everything that it has caused in me.
18:46In that year, from May 2023 to May 2024,
18:51I was already in a totally different health condition,
18:55because during all that time,
18:57the disease was growing there,
18:59and when it happened,
19:01that I began to menstruate,
19:03or have periods regularly,
19:05or normally,
19:07that inflammatory process that causes menstrual period,
19:11begins to inflame other organs,
19:13and causes inflammation.
19:15You know that,
19:17due to what you mentioned,
19:19fertility and others,
19:21there comes a time in the life of every woman,
19:23of every man,
19:25that they want to formalize,
19:27they want to have their family,
19:29but in your particular case,
19:31when those moments come,
19:33when you say, wow,
19:35I am in a condition where my fertility is compromised,
19:37what happens in your mind,
19:39in your heart?
19:41I think that is the hardest question,
19:43because I have been with my partner for many years,
19:47and we have a very beautiful dynamic,
19:49in which I still,
19:51I consider myself a young woman,
19:55I just turned 31 years old,
19:57so I still did not see in my plans,
20:01if not four,
20:03maybe five years,
20:05the possibility of already starting to have a family.
20:09And when I got this news,
20:11where I already have my ovaries compromised,
20:13all this issue of the disease,
20:15and what it implies to have endometriosis,
20:17how much my ovarian reserve has dropped
20:19in just one year,
20:21it has dropped a lot,
20:23well, obviously that changes a lot,
20:25the plan that you have,
20:27in terms of maternity,
20:29and I do have to confess that
20:31in me personally,
20:33I do feel a lot of pain,
20:35the idea of,
20:37because I also think that the same disease,
20:39and the doctors are also creating this pressure,
20:41of look,
20:43you have to get pregnant.
20:45And society too.
20:47Society, after 30,
20:49you have to get pregnant,
20:51you have to get pregnant,
20:53I mean,
20:55and apart from that,
20:57there is the fact that I have to be healthy
20:59to get pregnant.
21:01I love my specialist,
21:03because my specialist tells me,
21:05a lot of people say that pregnancy
21:07cures endometriosis,
21:09that when you get pregnant,
21:11you don't have endometriosis,
21:13and he says, yes, for nine months,
21:15because as you are not ovulating,
21:17or menstruating,
21:19you are gestating a baby,
21:21a baby crying at home,
21:23and endometriosis pain,
21:25which did not go away with the pregnancy.
21:27You mentioned your partner.
21:29I want you to share with me
21:31how significant
21:33his support
21:35has been
21:37for Luisaura
21:39in this endometriosis process.
21:41The truth is that my partner
21:43has been everything.
21:45I mean, he has supported me in absolutely everything.
21:47He is that person who,
21:49when I go to the pharmacy
21:51to look for an anti-inflammatory
21:53or a sedative,
21:55runs out,
21:57he has had,
21:59he has had to intern
22:01five or four days,
22:03whatever is necessary in the hospital,
22:05without leaving,
22:07waiting for my recovery.
22:09He has accompanied me in absolutely
22:11all my medical appointments
22:13that I have had during the last months,
22:15and above all,
22:17the changes that I have had.
22:19And the truth is that
22:21I think I'm not only going to speak for myself,
22:23I'm going to speak for all the endoguerreras.
22:25It is super important
22:27to have that support
22:29from your partner and your family
22:31or whoever you have by your side
22:33to carry out this process,
22:35because the truth is that it is not easy.
22:37I would also like to return
22:39where we left off
22:41in terms of what steps to take
22:43to reach a diagnosis.
22:45In this country there are many gynecologists,
22:47good gynecologists, very good,
22:49but I think that
22:51not everyone
22:53is trained to understand
22:55that you are going through an endometriosis.
22:57And the same thing happens
22:59with any other discipline, gastro,
23:01urology, on the subject of the questions
23:03that must be asked.
23:05Because the first, and in fact,
23:07in this country, believe it or not,
23:09there are very few specialists
23:11in endometriosis as such.
23:13In fact, there is a page
23:15that I would like, and it is where
23:17I send all the girls,
23:19which is called Endolatam,
23:21which is a page in Latin America
23:23that is in charge of a community of doctors,
23:25specialists in endometriosis,
23:27who are in charge of certifying
23:29which are the specialists
23:31in charge or who are suitable
23:33to treat
23:35deep infiltrative endometriosis.
23:37That is, it is endometriosis
23:39that
23:41can have different degrees
23:43and above all that is already passed
23:45to other organs. Why?
23:47Because there are many sad cases of girls
23:49who do find endometriosis
23:51and they do their laparoscopy,
23:53but endometriosis is such a harmful disease
23:55that if they removed you from an organ
23:57but left you in the intestine
23:59or in the diaphragm or in the bladder,
24:01they didn't do anything to you.
24:03Or if,
24:05in this case,
24:07they did an accident
24:09and they had to remove
24:11the appendix or remove an ovary,
24:13but they didn't check
24:15that it was due to endometriosis
24:17and they left those...
24:19Those remnants.
24:21Those remnants of endometriosis,
24:23those wounds, right, of endometriosis.
24:25Well,
24:27the patient will continue to present
24:29symptoms and will have to return
24:31to surgery. So, in Endolatam
24:33there is a highlight
24:35that says Dominican Republic,
24:37and they will show up.
24:39What are the specialists?
24:41Most of them are in Santiago.
24:43There is Dr. Eugenio Colon,
24:45who is Dominican, but lives in Atlanta
24:47and comes to the country to operate
24:49women, girls.
24:51In Santiago they have
24:53Dr. Manuel Gullon,
24:55Julio Bonet, and there is something very important.
24:57In this process,
24:59I did many sonographies,
25:01resonances,
25:03throughout the years,
25:05sonographies,
25:07and this happens because you need
25:09radiologists specialized in seeing
25:11endometriosis in this type of studies.
25:13So, when I went
25:15with Dr. Julio Ward, from Santiago,
25:17and Dr. Mauricio Morel, who is also in Santiago,
25:19but is also in the Brewer Clinic here,
25:21the same studies
25:23that I had done, the panorama changed completely.
25:25And everything started to appear.
25:27So, there in this highlight, you will see
25:29all the specialists.
25:31I always say,
25:33look for a specialist in endometriosis,
25:35because if not, you will continue
25:37losing time.
25:39Luisaura, you know that time
25:41on television is
25:43very valuable,
25:45as valuable has been your contribution,
25:47but I want, reaching the final part,
25:49in a sporting spirit,
25:51that you answer these two questions
25:53in a short way.
25:55Your greatest joys
25:57and your greatest sorrows
25:59during the process of endometriosis.
26:01Wow.
26:03My greatest joys have been
26:05realizing
26:07that there is
26:09a valuable community
26:11with which you identify
26:13after entering this process.
26:15In this process, I met Soendo,
26:17which is the endometriosis association,
26:19an association that is for and for patients.
26:21In fact, this Saturday we have
26:23an activity at the UNFU for patients.
26:25It is called Endo360,
26:27the second conference for patients.
26:29They are girls who share
26:31their testimonies, help you,
26:33embrace you with a lot of empathy,
26:35direct you in this process.
26:37In fact, they receive girls
26:39who are diagnosed as well as
26:41who have suspicions, only to guide
26:43the process so that they can find
26:45a guide
26:47for endometriosis.
26:49Finding this community,
26:51in fact, as a company
26:53in this process of not feeling alone,
26:55has been very nice.
26:57I have the support of my family,
26:59of my partner, of my close friends
27:01who have been in this process
27:03in an incredible way,
27:05and above all the health professionals
27:07who have done an excellent job.
27:09My physiotherapist, Cathy,
27:11my urologist, my gastroenterologist,
27:13that is, the whole team of professionals,
27:15Dr. Grullón in Santiago,
27:17who I am going to take my surgery with,
27:19and Dr. Cesar Castillo.
27:21So they have been...
27:23The truth is, I am very grateful
27:25The sad part, obviously,
27:27is how you see that your life changes forever.
27:29I have had to change
27:31absolutely my diet patterns,
27:33exercise patterns,
27:35understand that it is a day at a time,
27:37that I do not have
27:39this energy that I had before,
27:41and that I have to live with
27:43a disease that is growing
27:45and that I have to be compassionate with it.
27:47And that is more difficult
27:49than it sounds.
27:51José Cruz, our director here,
27:53has given me about seven minutes.
27:55And I am going to ask you this question.
27:59You described as great
28:03in the support,
28:05in the endometriosis process,
28:07your partner and your family.
28:09They are not here physically with us.
28:11If you had the opportunity
28:13to face them,
28:15what would you tell them?
28:17Thank you for being here, really.
28:19Thank you for enduring,
28:21for being patients.
28:23I know it is not easy.
28:25The medical itinerary that a patient
28:27with endometriosis has
28:29prior to surgery and after surgery
28:31is very arduous.
28:33And the truth is that I am very grateful
28:35that they are with me.
28:37Well, gentlemen,
28:39there you were listening
28:41the story, the testimony
28:43of Luisaura
28:45Yesmin, who is
28:47an endo warrior.
28:49I will have surgery next week
28:51to be officially
28:53an endo warrior.
28:55A surgery that is expected to last
28:57seven hours or so.
28:59We will give you
29:01the corresponding follow-up.
29:03But with God and the health professionals
29:05I know that everything will go well.
29:07I am going with my family to Santiago.
29:09And really,
29:11I just want to let you know that
29:13if you have suspicions,
29:15investigate. I have listened to many podcasts,
29:17many videos and
29:19that has helped me a lot to understand what is happening
29:21with me and to look for a health professional
29:23who really knows about endometriosis.
29:25And that really is the most important thing.
29:27Thank you for this time,
29:29for being that human being
29:31who has been sincere
29:33and who has shared with each
29:35of the ladies of this
29:37silent disease,
29:39endometriosis, which
29:41we have also treated from the point of view
29:43sports, because the sports spirit
29:45wants to leave
29:47a mark on each
29:49of our viewers,
29:51those people who also
29:53through social media follow
29:55this content, this wonderful
29:57project that God has allowed.
29:59I am Rafi de León.
30:01Remember, God bless you.