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Ben Cohen shares his views on the Israel-Hamas war, calling it a genocide while condemning the October 7th attacks. Patrick Bet-David challenges him on leadership decisions, hostage situations, and military actions. The discussion highlights moral dilemmas and real-world consequences.
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00:00Last thing before we wrap up, what do you think about Hamas and Israel, the war, and do you have any opinions on that?
00:06I think it is a genocide. I think it's awful, horrible.
00:15To a guy who's getting killed, I don't think it matters whether it's in a gas chamber or because it was a bomb dropped on his head.
00:29I don't, I'm just hugely opposed to taking weapons and slaughtering people. It's absurd.
00:42I mean, I'm also hugely opposed to what happened on October 7th with, you know, with people coming in and slaughtering people in Israel.
00:56But I totally don't believe that it justifies slaughtering an entire population.
01:05It's about to get very ugly after what the president put out there. I don't know if you saw this or not.
01:11Did you see this? Shalom Hamas means hello and goodbye. You can choose release all the hostages now or later.
01:17Not later and immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered or it's over for you.
01:22Only sick and twisted people keep bodies and you are sick and twisted. I'm sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job.
01:27Not a single Hamas member will be safe. If you don't do as I say, I have just met with your former hostages whose lives you have destroyed.
01:35This is your last warning for the leadership. Now is the time to leave Gaza while you still have a chance.
01:40Also to the people of Gaza, a beautiful future awaits you, but not if you hold hostages.
01:46If you do, you are dead. Make a smart decision. Release the hostages now or there will be hell to pay later.
01:52How do you feel about that?
02:00I believe the hostages should be released. I do not believe that we should be slaughtering people.
02:11So what if they don't release the hostages?
02:14So Ben, maybe you have a better strategy. How do you get them to release the hostages? Share it with us.
02:20I don't know.
02:22Honestly, so what should he do? Should he send a case of ice cream guys? Release them. Here's Ben and Jerry's.
02:29Maybe he sends the dark chocolate, the dirt, what is it called? Dirt cake, my favorite.
02:35They may not like that because it's, you know, dirt cake.
02:37So, but what do they?
02:41I, you know, I don't, I don't have a solution.
02:44Could it be because as a leader you have a position that sometimes you have to make a tough decision that the average person will not understand and there's burden that comes with being a president?
02:54Well, I definitely, I agree that there are times when you need to make tough decisions as a leader.
03:04You have kids?
03:05I do.
03:05I do as well.
03:07If one of those hostages, God forbid, were our kids, how soon would you want him to make a move so they return to you so you can hug them again?
03:17I'm not looking to, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say return my kid or I'll slaughter thousands of people.
03:31So you would sacrifice your daughter or your son if they stay there?
03:38I, I wouldn't sacrifice my, my daughter.
03:42Every day they're there.
03:43Their, their, their days are numbered.
03:46Each day they're there.
03:47Your imagination.
03:49You're a great marketer in your imagination.
03:51As a father, you're imagining what they're doing to your daughter.
03:55You're okay with that.
03:59I'm not okay with it.
04:00Uh, you know, I, I don't know what the solution to the problem is.
04:06That's why it's tough.
04:07Yeah, it's tough.
04:08It's tough.
04:09And so no matter what he does, he's going to have hate, but he's got to make a decision.
04:13This is why being a leader is not for everybody, especially being a president.
04:19It's a lot of burden that comes with, especially president like him.
04:22That's actually making decisions that a lot of people are giving him a hard time with.
04:26And now he's got a big support, big people that are sitting there saying, let's go.
04:30Ben, I can tell you one thing.
04:32I had no idea where we were going to go.
04:34Honestly, I had a blast with you.
04:37I had, I so appreciate you for reaching out.
04:39I hope we stay in contact.
04:41And, uh, I have friends in Vermont that I go to and I stay at this house.
04:45My, uh, good friend.
04:47I'll give a shout out to the Mehran Asadi, who is the CEO of national life group and
04:52incredible man.
04:53I don't know if you've met him before or not.
04:55He's been to your place before.
04:56Phenomenal father.
04:58He's a great CEO.
04:59And I've been to Vermont just to visit him.
05:02Um, Mehran Asadi, he has a Persian accent.
05:06He doesn't like it when I say that, but he is a, a, he's a very, very, very dear
05:12friend of mine.
05:13So anyways, well, let me know when you're in town.
05:16I will.
05:17I didn't get to show you all of my toys.
05:20Oh, what is it?
05:21What do you want?
05:22Yeah.
05:22Tell me what's one of my toys.
05:25This is a limited edition.
05:28Uh, Ben and Jerry's ramp Walker.
05:33Uh, there's no batteries.
05:36There's no, nothing to wind up.
05:40Uh, it, it waddles.
05:43Let me see if we can hear.
05:45Let's set it up for you here.
05:50Oh, excuse me.
05:50I'm moving.
05:51I'll go for it.
05:52Do it.
05:53Go on.
05:54Go on guys.
05:55Oh, wow.
05:57Isn't that cool?
05:58That is super cool.
05:59They don't go off.
06:00They always get out of here.
06:03They know they've got to look at these guys and it's low tech.
06:06It's not like I've got a sensor.
06:09This is crazy.
06:11So it's not battery generated.
06:13No, no, no.
06:14This is a wow.
06:16You know, when these first came out 20 years ago, 25 years ago, that's cool.
06:22People weren't that crazy about now that everything is all high tech and
06:27everything like this.
06:28Yeah, it's retro.
06:29Can I have it?
06:30Can you have it?
06:31Baby?
06:31This is your, it's got your name on it.
06:34Not only that I'm giving you one.
06:36That's totally on all your amazing, you know, eBay, you know, when, when
06:40your business goes down to the tube, you sell that on eBay, you know, we'll
06:44get rid of the capital gains tax.
06:46Listen, and you're amazing.
06:48All right.
06:50You're amazing.
06:51All right.
06:51Here's my other toy.
06:54What?
06:54Your pens don't do this.
06:56Dude, that is pretty sick.
06:57I mean, you know, you go around selling insurance with this thing, but this
07:03one here talks about global military spending.
07:06You know, here's how much the US spends.
07:09Here's how much China spends.
07:10Here's how much Russia spends.
07:12No, they got a close-up lens on that fucking thing.
07:16Here's how you see it or no here.
07:18Let me show you.
07:20Do you see it?
07:20Rob?
07:21It's pretty sick.
07:23That is cool.
07:24I love this.
07:25All right.
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