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00:00I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:02This is the second episode of the show,
00:04Reiwa's Uncanny Account!
00:08I didn't make this episode because
00:10it was too long.
00:12This is what's trending these days.
00:14Please enjoy.
00:18You've been doing this for a while, right?
00:20Yeah, I used to roll up my sleeves.
00:22Don't you miss this style?
00:24My arms and legs are too short.
00:26I'm afraid of heights.
00:28I've been told I'm too old for this.
00:30You can't laugh at me.
00:32He's from the Reiwa era.
00:34He has 1,460,000 followers on SNS.
00:36He's a high school student,
00:38a video creator, and a talent.
00:40He's Mr. Hima Hima.
00:42Nice to meet you.
00:44When we were young,
00:46we used to think it was amazing
00:48to have a million followers on a CD.
00:50But now, we have over 100 followers.
00:52That's amazing.
00:56How long have you been doing this?
00:58It depends on my age.
01:00The more I do it,
01:02the more followers I get.
01:04How long have you been doing this?
01:06It's been 9 years.
01:08How old are you?
01:10I'm 17 now.
01:12I've been doing this since I was 8.
01:16Why are you so good at talking?
01:18You've been doing this
01:20since you were a kid.
01:22I've been doing this since I was in 3rd grade.
01:24It's hard to face the society
01:26when you're in 3rd grade.
01:28When you were a kid,
01:30you were surrounded by the army.
01:32When you're surrounded by the army,
01:34you can't face the society.
01:36It's like a isolated society.
01:38How did you get popular?
01:40At first,
01:42I was following the trend
01:44from Mr. Sho.
01:46The quiz was popular.
01:48It's a toy that makes you dizzy.
01:50That was popular at first.
01:52I was following the trend.
01:54It's real-time.
01:56That's right.
01:58Recently, I've been...
02:00I'm sorry.
02:02What's wrong?
02:04When I was in 3rd grade,
02:06stickers were popular.
02:08Plastic models were popular.
02:10Clothes were popular.
02:12It's totally different.
02:14That's right.
02:16It's like announcing it.
02:18It's like announcing it.
02:20Recently,
02:22I'm not following the trend.
02:24I'm going to get information.
02:26I'm going to get information from Korea.
02:28I'm going to get information from Korea.
02:30I'm going to get information
02:32before I come to Japan.
02:34Do you have a passport?
02:36I have a passport.
02:38I'm sorry.
02:40You don't have to go to Korea.
02:42You can get information.
02:44This is not a business.
02:46This is not a business.
02:48This is a business.
02:50When I heard about them,
02:52it felt like me.
02:54It felt like me.
02:56You are firm.
02:58You are firm.
03:00You didn't seem like a friend.
03:12reiwa generation,
03:14HimaHima,
03:16It's embarrassing to talk about it to people, but...
03:20Last fall, my son, who was a college student,
03:24got drunk and lost his keys.
03:26Oh, no!
03:27It's hard to lose a key.
03:29I thought he was an idiot,
03:31so I took them all back.
03:33It was a pain.
03:34I did everything I could.
03:36You took them back.
03:37I took them back.
03:38He was very angry.
03:39I told him to stop.
03:40I told him it was dangerous.
03:41A month later, I dropped them.
03:43Oh, no!
03:44What are you doing, Dad?
03:46I was shocked.
03:47I changed my keys twice in a month.
03:50Wow!
03:51Your son won't get angry.
03:52No, he won't.
03:53I was really angry.
03:55He won't get angry.
03:56But he's a good father.
03:58He's not a good father.
03:59Why did I lose my keys?
04:00I've never been so angry.
04:03I did it as soon as my idiot son did it.
04:07People call your son an idiot.
04:09That's why he comes home drunk.
04:10Idiot!
04:11I said he was an idiot.
04:13He's an idiot.
04:15I haven't heard that in a long time.
04:17No, you shouldn't.
04:18You know what?
04:19I'm his father.
04:20I can't drop my keys.
04:21I'm his father, so it's okay if I drop them.
04:25Because I let you take them to your house.
04:28You're his son.
04:29You're his son.
04:30I let you take them to my house.
04:33I don't like this kind of father.
04:35I don't like this kind of father.
04:36No, I'm serious.
04:37I
05:07Was
05:37My phone
06:07What about you, Tokushira?
06:09I won't forget.
06:11I won't forget.
06:13How about you, Miya-san?
06:15Right now, I don't really forget things.
06:18That's wonderful.
06:20But I think you'd look good in it.
06:22Oh, just right.
06:24With the jellyfish.
06:26Miya-san, I'll buy the jellyfish pattern.
06:28You'll buy it?
06:30And after this,
06:32Showa's common sense is Reiwa's non-common sense?
06:37The sweets that were very popular in the Showa era,
06:40Nata de Coco.
06:42It's not a counterfeit, right?
06:44I've never thought about the ingredients.
06:46The way it was made was too shocking.
06:50Nata de Coco is...
06:53Made.
06:54What?
06:56Speaking of Florida,
06:58Kiya thinks it's the Florida of America.
07:02Some of the Reiwa generation used it in a completely different way.
07:07When you hear Florida,
07:09what do you think of?
07:13Florida.
07:14Do you say Florida?
07:16I'll never say it.
07:18Furthermore, the women of the Showa generation
07:20compared men's faces to certain things.
07:24Which one is the type?
07:26Ah, the face?
07:28The face?
07:30Ah, I see.
07:32I sometimes say that.
07:36Narita & Murakami's
07:38Let's think about the future of Japan!
07:46A square and a circle.
07:48A curtain with asymmetrical glasses.
07:52Narita Yusuke is an economist
07:54who graduated from Tokyo University
07:56and is in charge of data research.
07:59And Murakami Shingo is interested in economics.
08:05Furthermore,
08:06Mr. Takami Kondo,
08:08the representative of the NEXIS group,
08:10who won the first prize at the time,
08:13participated in the competition.
08:17Mr. Kondo is an economist
08:20and a member of a group of 6,000 people
08:22called the Management Exchange Group.
08:24As a representative of fashion leaders,
08:28he has worked in business
08:30with many small and medium-sized companies
08:32and entrepreneurs.
08:36What is the theme of this episode
08:38that Mr. Kondo has come up with?
08:41I think it would be good to talk about
08:43the concept of opening up.
08:45Opening up.
08:47Well, I don't know.
08:49What do you mean?
08:50I mean,
08:51I want to make it easier for the companies to cut off their heads.
08:55Until now,
08:56I've been hired once,
08:57but I've never been told,
08:59ouch!
09:01So I want to make it easier for them to understand.
09:05Opening up is a system
09:07that is set up by the law and rules
09:11to prevent companies from opening up employees illegally.
09:16But on the other hand,
09:18Japan has a strong tendency to protect employees
09:20from all over the world.
09:23It is also said that the hurdle of opening up is high.
09:28Once you join as a full-time employee,
09:30there are many companies
09:32that automatically raise
09:34their salaries and salaries
09:36depending on the number of years they have been employed.
09:39Even if you are said to be a salary thief
09:41who does not match your ability
09:43as a representative of the Madoniwa tribe,
09:46you will not be able to open up easily.
09:50This is reflected in the labor law in Japan.
09:55By making it easier for companies to open up employees,
09:58the employment of new people is activated.
10:03Employment liquidity is increased,
10:05and productivity is expected to improve.
10:09The reason why this regulation of opening up
10:11has become a hot topic
10:13is the Sosai war in September 2009.
10:18Shinjiro Koizumi, who was the candidate,
10:20said at a press conference
10:22that he would review the regulation of opening up.
10:27However,
10:29the regulation of opening up protects the rights of workers
10:32and protects them from unlawful opening up.
10:36At that time,
10:38he said that he did not value people
10:41and that he did not value people.
10:43The evacuation was concentrated.
10:47On the other hand,
10:48it is said that it is easy for companies
10:50to fire employees in the U.S.,
10:52an economic powerhouse.
10:55Should the regulation of opening up be eased?
11:00I want to talk about this
11:02because I'm proud of it.
11:05I've been here for 38 years,
11:07and I've never opened up.
11:09What I want to say is that
11:11there is a power outage in the world of sports.
11:16It's not about getting older because it's not a sport,
11:20but it's about why companies have to pay
11:22people who don't work hard
11:24and people who don't want to work hard.
11:27What I say to employees is that
11:29if you work hard,
11:30you don't have to raise the number.
11:32You're working hard,
11:33so you'll get results.
11:34Don't panic.
11:35That's the level I'm at.
11:37If you don't want to work hard,
11:39you can't do it.
11:41Why do companies have to take care of you?
11:44I think it's strange.
11:47I don't think you have to work hard
11:49because you don't feel nervous.
11:52In fact, in recent years,
11:54people have given up promotion and promotion
11:57and only do the minimum work they need at work.
12:01About half of the people who work
12:04at the company have given up promotion.
12:09In addition,
12:10Japanese people take more than 120 days off a year.
12:15It's like taking a day off every three days.
12:18I think it depends on whether you're working hard or not,
12:21but it also depends on whether you're suitable for the company.
12:24If it's a foreign company,
12:26they might be a thorn in your side.
12:28You're right.
12:30Employees are free to quit.
12:33But companies can't fire people
12:36even if they think they're not suitable for the company.
12:39Isn't that strange?
12:41But they might be waiting for you to quit.
12:46I don't think they'll quit.
12:49It's just a feeling.
12:51It's like, the more you add, the more you add.
12:54So they can't get a job elsewhere?
12:56I don't know.
12:57Human potential is limitless.
12:59They might be very motivated elsewhere.
13:01Don't let the company take responsibility.
13:03It's very important as a manager.
13:06There's a movie starring George Clooney called My Life in the U.S.
13:11He was fired.
13:13He got a call from a company
13:15to fire this employee and that employee.
13:18George Clooney said,
13:20it's time to start a new life.
13:25He handed out pamphlets and said,
13:27I'll take your advice.
13:30My Life in the U.S. was released in 2009
13:34and was nominated for Academy Award.
13:39George Clooney, the main character,
13:42became an employee and was fired.
13:46It's his job in the U.S.
13:50He traveled all over the U.S.
13:53using his professional counseling know-how
13:56to explain why he was fired.
14:01He's a professional who doesn't cause trouble
14:04and makes employees quit their jobs.
14:07The U.S. is a country where these things are improved.
14:12In the U.S., you get fired right away, right?
14:14There are various rules,
14:17but compared to Japan,
14:19it's easier to lay off a large number of people.
14:21When you watch a movie,
14:23you don't get fired right away, right?
14:25It depends on the industry.
14:27In the financial industry,
14:29you get fired in the morning.
14:32You put your luggage in the box
14:34and go to the exit.
14:36That movie is true, right?
14:38The movie is true.
14:40You get a pass and everything.
14:42I think it's better to stop
14:45using the U.S. as a reference.
14:47It's too different from society.
14:49In the first place, it's a natural thing.
14:52Even if you get fired,
14:54you can move to another place
14:56in the same industry.
14:58The job market is also very good.
15:00More than anything else,
15:02immigrants are coming from all over the world.
15:04Especially in an industry with a high salary,
15:06all the most talented people in the world
15:08gather in one place.
15:10The system of such a country
15:12is different from the system of Japan,
15:14where only Japanese are doing it
15:16and the population is shrinking.
15:18I think we need to think about
15:20how to make the economy grow.
15:22I think Japan should be a country
15:24where people work hard,
15:26love their colleagues,
15:28love their companies,
15:30and live together.
15:32That's the way Japan should be.
15:34We should be a country
15:36where we fight against society
15:38with teamwork.
15:40We should not lose in war,
15:42but we should not lose in the economy.
15:44We should develop together
15:46and that's what's amazing.
15:48I think that's what's important for Japanese people.
15:50You like that kind of talk, don't you?
15:52I love it!
15:54But why are you so strict
15:56about the flow of employment?
15:58That's what I think,
16:00but what I just said is important.
16:02But I think we're being too lenient.
16:04I see.
16:06That's right.
16:08We're all doing it as one team.
16:10I understand.
16:12As Mr. Narita said,
16:14if you think about the flow of employment,
16:16it's the same as Japan.
16:18If Japan has 2 jobs,
16:20I think we should at least
16:22have 5 jobs.
16:24That's what I think.
16:26I'm not saying that
16:28we should become American.
16:30I think so, too.
16:32If we have 5 jobs,
16:34will Japan be able to
16:36deal with the situation?
16:38I think there will be a lot of
16:40social pressure.
16:42Yes.
16:44If the flow of employment is reduced,
16:46for example,
16:48the number of employees
16:50who work at a company
16:52with a higher salary
16:54and a higher salary
16:56depending on their age
16:58and the number of years
17:00of employment,
17:02there will be a rebound.
17:04On the other hand,
17:06there will be fewer and fewer people.
17:08If we think about
17:10the best distribution of human resources,
17:12I think we have to do it.
17:14If we do it
17:16in a situation
17:18where the employment rate
17:20is very high,
17:22it will become
17:24a really bad system.
17:26If you quit,
17:28you can't get a job.
17:30But even if it's not like that,
17:32with the current employment rate,
17:34we might be able to do something.
17:36We have to design a system
17:38that works well.
17:40It is often said that Japan is a country
17:42that is difficult to fire.
17:44But it is not difficult
17:46to fire people by law.
17:48Is there such a thing as
17:50a foreign policy based on the law?
17:52In fact, Japan is not such a country.
17:54If you simply measure the
17:56difficulty of being fired by law,
17:58it is known that Japan is not
18:00a country that is particularly
18:02strict on foreign policy.
18:04On the other hand,
18:06it is established
18:08that even if a large company
18:10is fired,
18:12it is often possible
18:14to get a compensation.
18:16But the law is the same as the law.
18:18This is the 16th article
18:20of the Labor Contract Act
18:22that stipulates the rules
18:24for dismissal.
18:26If there is no objective
18:28and reasonable reason,
18:30a company cannot
18:32dismiss its employees.
18:34However,
18:36what is the objective
18:38and reasonable reason?
18:40Objectively?
18:42There is a reason
18:44for dismissal, right?
18:46Objectively,
18:48in the general society,
18:50even if the third party
18:52sees it,
18:54for example,
18:56the company itself
18:58becomes red,
19:00or the hotel
19:02or hotel
19:04becomes red.
19:06I see.
19:08So the problem that Mr. Kondo
19:10mentioned earlier
19:12is probably a problem
19:14that is often found
19:16in large companies
19:18with traditional industries.
19:20I see.
19:22Rather,
19:24there is a problem
19:26that the working side
19:28tends to be parasitic
19:30and is overprotected.
19:32For small companies
19:34with weak working conditions,
19:36there is a problem
19:38that they are overprotected.
19:40There are many people
19:42who can't afford it,
19:44so even if they are dismissed
19:46or dismissed,
19:48they have no choice
19:50but to cry.
19:52So there are problems
19:54that are not properly protected
19:56by those who are not blessed.
19:58I see.
20:00That's right.
20:02That's right.
20:04If you don't design
20:06a detailed system,
20:08you will definitely fail.
20:10Speaking of foreign policy,
20:12I think Japan tends to talk
20:14about the whole economy
20:16with a stereotypical image,
20:18so I think it's a little dangerous.
20:20There are quite a few criticisms
20:22about the statement
20:24that it is a policy
20:26like the fossil of the Showa era,
20:28but I think it's important
20:30to make it clear
20:32what it means
20:34when it comes to foreign policy.
20:36That's right.
20:38It doesn't make much sense
20:40to discuss whether
20:42it's good or bad
20:44to make it easier
20:46to get fired.
20:48That's right.
20:50It's a very difficult
20:52problem,
20:54so you have to know
20:56how to make it easier
20:58to get fired.
21:00As I said earlier,
21:02I think we need to do something
21:04to make the labor market
21:06more fluid.
21:08We are also trying to
21:10optimize human resources.
21:12I wonder if there is
21:14another way
21:16other than foreign policy.
21:18I think 60% or more
21:20of young people
21:22are fine with
21:24foreign policy,
21:26but I think there are
21:28people who think
21:30foreign policy is also
21:32a way to improve
21:34human resources.
21:54In the 20s,
21:56will you continue
21:58working at the same company
22:00for decades?
22:02I don't think
22:04I'll change my opinion.
22:06I don't know
22:08if I'm passionate or not.
22:10If I say I am,
22:12I feel like I have to say
22:14that I am.
22:16I also think
22:18that I have to
22:20communicate with people
22:22Also, even if you don't communicate, you can still work.
22:27So it's hard to feel like you're working together.
22:31You can get along with each other.
22:33Even if you don't work.
22:35So how do you get incentives to work hard?
22:41That's one of the themes.
22:43One of the incentives to work hard is
22:47to distribute a certain percentage of the company's profits to everyone.
22:54The people who did the best job
22:57will get a plus-or-minus incentive.
23:00But since it's a team, everyone should share.
23:03I think that's the best way to do it.
23:06It's easy to understand.
23:09Until now, the company's profits haven't increased,
23:13the salaries haven't increased, the growth rate hasn't increased,
23:17and the interest rate hasn't increased.
23:20We've gotten used to that.
23:23However, the average annual income of private companies
23:27has increased by about 450,000 yen in 9 years.
23:31In 2023, it will be the highest in the past, at 4.6 million yen.
23:38The average annual income of Tohsho Prime's top companies
23:42will increase by one percent at the end of the year.
23:45Last winter, it was about 840,000 yen, the highest in the past.
23:51Facing the fact that the economy is in an upward trend,
23:5530 years have been lost.
23:58In Japan, where the economy is in a downward trend,
24:02Miyazaki-san said it was important to get rid of the dark way of thinking.
24:07Miyazaki-san will tell you.
24:10I'm thinking of writing a book called Defne-no.
24:14Japanese people have a brain that only thinks of applying defne.
24:20I'm thinking of writing a book about the era when we have to get rid of defne.
24:26Defne-no.
24:27Crush Defne-no.
24:29Please write it quickly.
24:30Please write it in a very easy-to-understand way.
24:32Of course.
24:35Of course.