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Samajwadi Party leader Abu Azmi's remarks praising Mughal emperor Aurangzeb have sparked a political storm in Maharashtra.
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00:00Saffron groups seek ban on Muslims in Holi, call for Mahakum-like ban in Mathura, boycott
00:27Hindu shops campaign in Bhopal, messages urge Muslims to buy from Muslim shops in Madhya
00:41Pradesh, community divide deepens amid calls for boycotts, opposition accuses BJP of trying
00:53to divide India, divisive colours ahead of Holi, unity in diversity is India's strength but what's
01:05happening on ground in Uttar Pradesh, in fact across the Braj Mandal you have Hindu groups
01:10that say keep Muslims out we want our Holi safe, in Madhya Pradesh, in Bhopal there are messages
01:16going viral where Muslims are telling each other at least in these viral whatsapp messages that
01:22we've accessed and some on social media that in this Pak month of Ramzan, buy only from Muslim
01:30shops and not from Hindus, what's happening, who's behind this, we'll try and get you details,
01:35I'm Gaurav Sawant, let's get started with the headlines on Five Line. Congress leader Dr.
01:44Shama Muhammad defiant but deletes her post, body shaming Rohit Sharma after calling him fat,
01:49BCCI vice-president says Rohit is fit and doing well for himself and for the team.
01:55After recliners, massage chairs for MLAs, three crore rupees to be spent on smart locks for MLAs
02:06after 2.5 crore rupees splurge on the Chief Minister's house, funds crunch but plush Neta
02:13life priority in Karnataka. MK Stalin urges for more babies to beat delimitation and secure more
02:25Lok Sabha seats, says must be ready for a population census. Mahapolitical face-off
02:37after Samajwadi parties, Abu Azmi hails Aurangzeb, says Aurangzeb built many temples,
02:44Deputy Chief Minister Eknath Shinde hits back, demands Azmi be booked for treason.
02:49Supreme Court permits Ranbir Alawadia to publish his content online,
02:59says will not allow jobs of 280 team members to take a hit.
03:07On 5 live let me take you straight to Maharashtra where there's a big political showdown and this
03:21showdown is over that cruel Mughal king Aurangzeb, Samajwadi party leader Abu Azmi has hailed Aurangzeb,
03:31Samajwadi party leader Abu Azmi says Aurangzeb built many temples and claims there is evidence
03:39to the effect that Aurangzeb was not a cruel king. On the other hand Maharashtra Deputy
03:45Chief Minister Eknath Shinde has hit back at Abu Azmi, he says Abu Azmi must be tried for treason
03:54for hailing Aurangzeb, the Deputy Chief Minister says entire Maharashtra and the country knows how
04:01it was under Aurangzeb's instructions that Chhatrapati Shambhaji Maharaj was tortured
04:08for over 40 days for not accepting Islam, his eyes were gouged out, he was ill-treated,
04:16limb after limb was chopped off before Chhatrapati Shambhaji Maharaj was beheaded,
04:23before he was killed by Aurangzeb and Abu Azmi is praising the same Aurangzeb responsible for the
04:30killing of Chhatrapati Shambhaji Maharaj, the Deputy Chief Minister says either there should
04:35be an apology from Abu Azmi immediately or a case of treason must be filed against him.
04:42Listen in to what Abu Azmi said, listen in to what Eknath Shinde said, I'll get you more on that story.
04:53Listen in to what Eknath Shinde said, I'll get you more on that story.
05:23Listen in to what Eknath Shinde said, I'll get you more on that story.
05:53So very clearly for Abu Azmi and this controversy started after that motion picture Chhawa,
06:01even Prime Minister Narendra Modi praised that movie, he spoke of how the film industry had played a critical role,
06:09the new generation is learning so much about our history, about our culture, about our fighters,
06:15spoke of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, the founder of the Hindvi Swaraj, spoke of Chhatrapati Shambhaji Maharaj,
06:21or Chhawa or the Lion Cub as he was known, Abu Azmi says this is not history, the films are not telling our people the right thing,
06:31he says that Aurangzeb was neither cruel nor did he have a role in the demolition of temples,
06:39however there is evidence, there is evidence, literary evidence and evidence from the Mughal court itself,
06:47the Mughal court had documented how Aurangzeb had ordered that the temple at Kashi Vishwanath
06:53or the Shri Krishna Janmabhoomi temple at Mathura should be demolished, this is Mughal history,
07:01but Abu Azmi is denying it, but I want to bring in Abhijit Karande for more on the story,
07:05Abhijit how did this suddenly escalate, why is Abu Azmi defending Aurangzeb, what prompted this?
07:11Gaurav this thing started from the Madhi Yatra which is situated at Ahilya Nagar district,
07:23which is old name is Ahmed Nagar and BJP's leader and the Yatra committee decided that no any Muslim businessmen will be allowed into the Yatra,
07:37after that proposal from the villagers and the other people Yatra committee,
07:45government officials completely scrapped that proposal and allowed Muslims community to do a business, regular business,
07:54after that Nitesh Rane who is a minister from Maharashtra cabinet went there and he took one meeting there
08:02and he said that we will not tolerate the people who are adoring Aurangzeb or the people who are projecting Aurangzeb as their hero,
08:13after responding Nitesh Rane then Abu Azmi came into the picture and said that Aurangzeb was not against the Hindus,
08:23Aurangzeb was not the cruel ruler or he have not demolished any temples in history,
08:31but as we know that and one more thing he said that Aurangzeb, that battle between Aurangzeb and Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj
08:41or Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj was not between the religious leaders but the battle between the two kings for the territory,
08:49so he was defending Aurangzeb, his ruling, his acts also and after that Shiv Sena UBT, Shiv Sena Shinde faction and BJP also
08:59aggressively coming into the picture and asking to take action against the Abu Azmi also.
09:06He pregnant that story, Abhijit I will come back to you for more,
09:10clearly Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj was the founder of the Hindu Swaraj in this country
09:16and there's much more that Abu Azmi and of course everybody else, all other Indians,
09:21they need to learn so much more about the founder of the Hindu Swaraj
09:26and that fire that Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, he lit it, Sambhaji carried it forward,
09:32so did Raja Ram, Chhatrapati Raja Ram, so did the Peshwas and that was the death knell for the Mughal dynasty at Red Fort.
09:41But I want to now move on to the other big story, social media posts calling for boycott of non-Muslim businesses
09:48and these are social media posts that are going viral in Bhopal, in Madhya Pradesh,
09:52they're saying during Ramzan don't buy from Hindus, it's circulating and watch this,
09:58so there is somebody who says, Ramzan ka mubarak mahina aagaya, Ramzan mubarak kharidari dekhbal ka kare,
10:04un logon jo kharide, jo kharidari se apna Ramzan aur Eid khushi ke saath mana sake,
10:09istinja toh door ki baat hai, najis ke baat bhi haath nahi dhote aur words to that effect
10:16and these are very loaded religious terms that are being used, you know, which means that impure practices
10:24and you know, so there's a section who says you don't follow their religion, you're kafirs,
10:29so all of this is being said in Madhya Pradesh but that's in Madhya Pradesh,
10:33in Uttar Pradesh you have Hindu groups that are saying Muslims should be kept out,
10:37Muslims should be kept completely out of holy celebrations not just in Mathura or Vrindavan
10:44but across the Braj Mandal because they are saying that chemicals or other, you know,
10:52impurities are being brought in, in colours and that is not good,
10:57are these goals for boycott justified is the big question we're asking and we'll debate that but first this report.
11:07Buy iftar items only from Muslims.
11:11Buy from those who will be happy during Ramzan and Eid.
11:16Buy for Ramzan and Iftar from your own.
11:21These are just a few of the viral posts on social media.
11:25Many more are being circulated in Madhya Pradesh in the month of Ramzan.
11:31The posts are calling on the Muslim community to buy goods from those of their own faith.
12:01We are all businessmen, we are all businessmen connected to each other and India's uniqueness,
12:06unity in diversity and India's uniqueness is the message we are trying to convey
12:11and we are opposing it in a very positive way.
12:16I also appeal to the people of the Muslim community that they should come out openly and boycott such people
12:22because the people who are spreading this message are definitely not Muslims.
12:27While locals say they won't let such hate divide the society, politics is speaking on the issue.
12:58Meanwhile in Uttar Pradesh, Hindutva outfits are seeking a ban on Muslims during Holi celebrations across Braj Mandal
13:07including Mathura, Vrindavan, Nandgaon, Varsana, Gokul and Dowji.
13:28We don't want anyone from the Muslim community to do any kind of business,
13:34sell colourful colours during Holi or enter the crowd during Holi and riot.
13:40The Congress and the Samajwadi Party have accused the BJP of spreading hate.
13:46The only aim of the Indian People's Party and the organization associated with them is to spread hatred and division.
13:53Let's talk about Mohan Bhagwatji.
13:56He says that all the leaders of the BJP and all the people are trying to become the leaders of Hindus
14:03by spreading hatred between Hindus and Muslims.
14:09The Chhadm Sanghatan in Mathura is also a part of the same conspiracy.
14:17Are the calls for bans and economic boycotts justified?
14:22With Ravish Pal Singh in Bhopal, Bureau Report, India Today.
14:47On social media asking Muslims not to buy anything from Hindu shops during the month of Ramzan.
14:52To the Braj Mandal in Uttar Pradesh where police are being requested to ensure that there are no Muslim shopkeepers
14:57selling gulal or colours mixed with any harmful chemicals.
15:01Is all of this happening as part of a wider design?
15:04What steps can the administration actually take to ensure that the festive season is not marred by communal tensions?
15:10Joining me on this India Today special broadcast is Charu Pragya.
15:14She represents the Bharatiya Janata Party on the broadcast.
15:16Maulana Sajid Rashidi joins us on the show as does Dr. Vikram Singh,
15:20former Director General of the Uttar Pradesh Police.
15:22And he's dealt with situations like this in the past.
15:25But Maulana Sajid Rashidi, what kind of messages are you seeing in Bhopal?
15:32What is the meaning of Najis?
15:36They are ritually impure.
15:38Those who don't even wash their hands after going to the bathroom,
15:41should not shop for Ramadan and Iftar from them.
15:44They should only shop from their own people.
15:46On one hand, there is a need to file an FIR in Bareilly.
15:50That if Hindus want to celebrate Holi there,
15:53then people from minority communities come and beat them up.
15:56And they say that dead bodies will be sold if Holi is celebrated.
15:59What is happening, sir?
16:02Dear viewers, these are mentally ill people.
16:06They are suffering from mental illness.
16:09You tell me, how many Muslims make sweets?
16:15How many Muslims make Namkeen?
16:18How many Muslims are in big websites?
16:21By doing social and economic boycotts of Hindus,
16:26what can you buy from Muslims?
16:29Most of the important things are done by Hindus.
16:34And some things are done by Muslims.
16:37Those who do such boycotts,
16:40as it is said in Bareilly,
16:42that dead bodies will be sold,
16:44they are not Muslims.
16:46They are not Muslims at all.
16:48I condemn them.
16:50In Islam, this is not the case at all.
16:52I will read you a verse from the Quran.
16:55The Quran says,
16:59Those who believe in other gods other than Allah,
17:03do not say bad things to them.
17:06Do not say such things to them,
17:08that they feel bad.
17:10When the Quran says this,
17:12then there should be strict action against such people.
17:15I am coming to that.
17:17There should be such an action,
17:19that the world should see it.
17:22And the Muslim society should boycott such people.
17:52The police swung into action,
17:54when Hindus were assaulted,
17:56and they were warned against celebrating Holi in Bareilly,
17:59when some Muslims came and said,
18:01dead bodies will be sold if Holi is celebrated.
18:23What do you make of it?
18:25And what needs to be done?
18:52And anyone who says that this festival can be celebrated,
18:54without our Muslim brothers,
18:56and without our Hindu brothers,
18:58I think is absolutely irresponsible.
19:00And as Maulana Rashidi has said,
19:02I strongly recommend,
19:04that the police take action against them,
19:06deterrent action,
19:07so that those trying to spew venom,
19:09those trying to promote communal hatred,
19:11should be taken to task.
19:13This is not acceptable in New India.
19:15Both the brothers, Hindus and Muslims,
19:17have to live and coexist,
19:19as they have lived for centuries together,
19:21and celebrated all the festivals for centuries together.
19:23And anybody who says,
19:25that it has to be otherwise,
19:27ban the entry of a particular community,
19:29or ban the entry of anybody else,
19:31I think should be booked under law.
19:33Peace committees be formed,
19:35and there should be a collective and a common declaration,
19:37from the DM and the SP's office,
19:39that these are people with criminal mentality,
19:41and they will be booked as per law.
19:43And they will not be allowed to spread venom,
19:45and spread communal hatred, Gauravji.
19:47Okay.
19:49There are elements,
19:51and other elements,
19:53who try to vitiate the atmosphere,
19:55and to keep the purity of the festival,
19:57such elements,
19:59do they need to be dealt with,
20:01before the festival starts,
20:03and in a very hard manner.
20:05But Charu Pragya, I want to understand from you.
20:07Yes, so some people in Bhopal,
20:09created these WhatsApp messages,
20:11and circulated them.
20:13Some people in Bareilly,
20:15tried to say,
20:17because of such elements,
20:19is it correct to issue,
20:21you know, a call to boycott,
20:23all Muslims in the Braj Mandal,
20:25and say do not buy anything from Muslims,
20:27in Braj Mandal, what's the thinking behind that?
20:31Gaurav, good evening.
20:33I believe that in recent times,
20:35in the country, and because of the efforts,
20:37of certain political parties,
20:39which are in the opposition today,
20:41certain governments, in certain states,
20:43which are bent on dividing India,
20:45on religious lines,
20:47these kind of sentiments have been festering.
20:49I'll give you solid examples.
20:51You look at Telangana government,
20:53they comfortably give a chutti for Ramzan,
20:55they say government employees,
20:57who are fasting can leave office at 4pm,
20:59but no such provision is made,
21:01if a Christian is fasting for Lent,
21:03or a Hindu is fasting,
21:05for any of his festivals,
21:07for Navratri for example.
21:09In West Bengal recently,
21:11the leave in schools,
21:13for Eid has been extended,
21:15from one day to two days,
21:17while taking away the chutti,
21:19which used to exist for Vishwakarma Puja.
21:21In Karnataka, we see an extra reservation,
21:23being given on religious lines,
21:25which is contrary to what,
21:27our constitution talks about.
21:29I can talk state wise,
21:31and explain how these political parties,
21:33have managed to lodge this wedge,
21:35between the fabric,
21:37of actual secularism,
21:39that existed in India.
21:41Now in the name of pseudo secularism.
22:11Gaurav, Gaurav,
22:13let's put some things in perspective.
22:15One stray person, threatening something,
22:17should be looked at,
22:19with a lens of law and order,
22:21not of religion, which is what,
22:23the opposition wants to do.
22:25There is an opposition leader who said,
22:27remove the police for 15 minutes.
22:29Now these things also need to be taken,
22:31equally seriously. Let me tell you,
22:33in every single BJP rule state,
22:35we are very clear about,
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36:11Congress distanced itself
36:13from Fatso Jai
36:21BCCI sportsmen
36:23hit out at body shamer
36:25Netas
36:33BJP calls Congress remark
36:35derogatory
36:41Rahul baba
36:49Rohit Sharma
37:03Rohit Sharma
37:05fat-shaming a captain, and it's actually sparked off an angry backlash on social media.
37:11The BCCI, of course, cleared the air.
37:13The BCCI has come out very strongly in support of Rohit Sharma.
37:17Now, if you look at statistics of the 141 matches in which he's been the captain, India
37:23has won 102.
37:24He has about 75% win rate, it's a success rate.
37:28India has lost about 32, 33 matches when he's been the captain.
37:32But whether it's ODI, T20 World Championship, when he was the leader of the team, of course
37:38we were runners-up in the ODI, in T20 we were champions, then IPL, he's led Mumbai Indians
37:45to a victory, title victory, at least five times.
37:48Is this criticism justified?
37:50We bring you more in this report.
38:02Despite Team India winning every match so far in the Champions Trophy, they're still
38:12facing questions.
38:15Congress spokesperson, Dr. Sharma Mohammed, after Team India's victory against New Zealand,
38:22targeted skipper Rohit Sharma, calling him overweight.
38:27She was later told by the Congress party leadership to delete her post.
38:32See, it was just a generic tweet about a fitness of a sports person.
38:38It is not body shaming, it's about the fitness of a sports person.
38:41I always believe a sports person has to be fit.
38:44So I felt he's a bit overweight and I just tweeted on that.
38:47And I've been attacked for no reason, you know.
38:50And I fail to understand a democracy, we don't have the right to speak in such a manner.
38:56A Congress spokesperson's comments triggered another controversy, prompting a party to
39:02distance itself from her remarks.
39:05The BCCI slammed Dr. Sharma Mohammed, stating that such remarks during the tournament could
39:10lower the team's morale.
39:12The party never makes any comments about such players.
39:16Their statement can be a negative statement.
39:19It has nothing to do with the Congress party.
39:23The Congress party never makes any comments about any player.
39:28We are playing very well, we are leading the team, we are continuously winning.
39:33So he is a very good player, he has a very big contribution in Indian cricket.
39:38And we believe that he is fit and capable of playing.
39:42If a party's spokesperson has given a little bit of respect to the platform given to him,
39:50then he should at least respect the platform given to him.
39:55Because if he doesn't know who he is talking about,
40:00if he doesn't have the core competence, then who is he talking about?
40:07Political leaders are split wide open on her statement.
40:11A TMC MP supported Dr. Mohammed, while the BJP targeted the Congress party.
40:20Once they do a century or two,
40:24and two, five, ten, twenty, they get out.
40:28He should neither get a place in the team, nor should he remain in power.
40:34What the Congress leader has said is right.
40:38There is a Punjabi saying, that a Chauhani man talks about Dhwani.
40:43Not Chauhani, but Dhwani.
40:45These people are from Chauhani.
40:47Now when you bring their statement, you will talk about Dhwani.
40:50Now how is Rohit Sharma, he will tell you.
40:53This is the mentality of the Congress.
40:55If you ask the Congress, who is a good player?
40:58They will say, Rahul Baba.
41:17And I quickly want to cut across to India Today's Nikhil Naaz,
41:21our consultant, editor of sports, who joins us live from Dubai.
41:26Nikhil, is this now a conversation even in the team?
41:30Are people pulling Rohit Sharma's leg about his fitness,
41:34about what Dr. Shama Mohammed said?
41:41Well, no, not quite, Gaurav.
41:43Well, no, not quite, Gaurav.
41:45In fact, I think the team is quite far away from any of this controversy.
41:51And I'll tell you why that is the case.
41:53Had this criticism come from someone who knows his cricket,
41:57or understands the cricket,
41:59I think the team would have spoken about it or taken it seriously.
42:03But looking at that tweet,
42:05that's not to say that you can't have a personal opinion.
42:08Of course, these are public figures,
42:10whether they are film stars, politicians, cricketers.
42:12They are open for public criticism.
42:15All of us are allowed to do that.
42:17They are representatives of India.
42:19So, as citizens of the country, we can comment on that.
42:22But it also depends what is the kind of comment.
42:25Now, if you read that entire comment,
42:27it does seem more like a personal attack
42:31rather than a very objective take on the matter.
42:34Sure, you can have an opinion about Rohit Sharma's fitness.
42:37And I heard Shama Mohammed's comment there in the report
42:41that you just played out.
42:42It said that, you know,
42:43are we not allowed to express what we feel like?
42:46I just expressed what I saw and sports people have to be fit.
42:49But I think there's a way of doing it.
42:51Let's not forget, he's the captain of the Indian cricket team.
42:53He's an ambassador of the sport.
42:55He's here in Dubai right now, representing India on the whole.
42:58So, I mean, to write a line like,
43:00Rohit Sharma is fat,
43:02instead of writing something like,
43:04I think maybe Rohit Sharma needs to work on his fitness.
43:07Is he fit enough to be playing cricket?
43:09That's the way you can have a constructive criticism about it.
43:12But I think the manner in which it was written,
43:14it's clearly there is some sort of a personal attack on him,
43:17on his fitness.
43:18And it's actually got the second part of the statement
43:20that makes it even more obvious that it's a personal attack.
43:23Where she writes that he's not even a captain of repute.
43:27He's quite a useless captain in that sense.
43:29That's the thing that she's trying to imply.
43:31Which is also really far away from the truth.
43:34In fact, nothing could be further away from the truth.
43:36He's one of the most outstanding captains
43:38that have played for India.
43:39The World Cup win, the IPL wins,
43:41all of that illustrate that.
43:43So, what this tells you is that the person commenting,
43:45and as I said, you have all the right to comment,
43:47but you need to know the subject, right?
43:49If I, as a citizen, I can comment
43:51on a political party or a politician.
43:53But I need to get my facts right.
43:55And here's a person who's actually a spokesperson
43:57of a national political party.
43:59They have to be doubly careful with what they write.
44:01And I think this wasn't that.
44:03This was rather careless.
44:05Let me also bring in Vikrant Gupta.
44:07Vikrant's been travelling extensively.
44:09He's also travelled on the other side
44:11of the border and now back in Dubai.
44:13So, Vikrant, tell me this.
44:15How should one view
44:17Dr. Shama Mohammed's statements
44:19on fact?
44:21Her comment on facts
44:23of the skipper's captaincy?
44:27In cricketing language,
44:29you could just leave the ball outside the off stump.
44:31Let the bowler tire himself or herself.
44:33What matters, Gaurav, is that
44:35he's leading an Indian team
44:37that just won the ICC
44:39World T20 Championship last year.
44:41He could also be the
44:43captain of a Champions Trophy winning team
44:45in the next week. He's got 49
44:47hundreds in international cricket, mind you.
44:49And somebody who can get an international hundred,
44:51I'm sure, is fit enough.
44:53I mean, when you talk about fitness,
44:55you talk about body shaming, that could be
44:57for you, for me. These international
44:59sportspersons are fit.
45:01They know what to do. They know how to do.
45:03I'll just take you back maybe
45:0520-30 years and
45:07tell you about certain players. There was a
45:09David Boone who played for Australia.
45:11There was an Arjuna Rahatunga
45:13who played for Australia. And there was also
45:15a Shane Wong who played for Australia.
45:17Bring the pictures out.
45:19Those videos out.
45:21They, I mean, would not
45:23perhaps be selected in modern day
45:25cricket just on the basis of their fitness.
45:27But those guys scored thousands
45:29and thousands of runs. Shane Wong
45:31took some
45:33thousand international wickets.
45:35So, you know, these are...
45:37I think it's also up to us,
45:39Gaurav, to be very honest.
45:41If we did not take this
45:43up as an issue,
45:45nobody would have bothered.
45:47And maybe, you know, there was another tweet that I saw
45:49where she said, and this is
45:51aside of the main tweet, I think she
45:53co-tweeted somebody
45:55and said, what's so special
45:57about him? There have been other captains
45:59as well. He's a very mediocre captain.
46:01Now, that's her prerogative.
46:03That's her thinking. But let me tell you one
46:05thing. Rohit Sharma is loved
46:07as much in India as he's loved
46:09in Pakistan. I think that suffices.
46:11Interesting. Oh, that's
46:13extremely interesting. Oh, absolutely. Both
46:15King Kohli and Rohit Sharma. And what
46:17amazing, you know,
46:19he's very aggressive with the bat
46:21and very cool as a captain. And you guys see him so
46:23much closer. Nikhil and Vikrant for joining
46:25me for the moment. Gentlemen, many
46:27thanks. Hoping India has a spectacular
46:29win once again against the
46:31Aussies in the semifinals.

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