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00:00A road accident in Yashio City, Saitama Prefecture.
00:06The driver's seat was found near the yellow traffic light.
00:11There is a possibility that there are still people down there.
00:16According to Saitama Prefecture, it will take at least 3 months for a 74-year-old driver to be rescued.
00:27The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism has requested an emergency inspection of the sewage pipe connecting to a large-scale processing plant for the local government.
00:43The inspection is not easy.
00:46It is very dangerous to enter the sewage pipe.
00:56Therefore, according to the company that conducts the inspection of the sewage pipe,
01:01there is an investigation method to use three types of drones in the water,
01:07which are water-based, flying, and underwater.
01:11Looking at the actual footage,
01:15you can see that the concrete skin of the pipe is melting.
01:19In the sewage pipe, fluid gas is generated.
01:23The fluid gas melts the skin of the concrete.
01:27Because of the damage to the sewage pipe,
01:30the surrounding soil is washed away and a cavity is formed.
01:34From there, the road is submerged.
01:38And Yashio City is investigating the cavity.
01:42This is a truck called a scale car.
01:45An electromagnetic wave is emitted from this part to investigate the cavity of the road.
01:51The scale car is equipped with a high-resolution sensor and camera.
01:57The scale car can scan the situation on the ground and find the cavity
02:05and can scan the situation on the ground and find the cavity.
02:12Let's take a look at the data that was previously investigated.
02:17In fact, the signal of the cavity is emitted in a mountainous manner like this.
02:23This is the possibility of the cavity.
02:26A black stain-like thing is emitted 30 cm from the surface.
02:30The width is 1 m and the height is about 1.5 m.
02:36The road is submerged due to the aging of the infrastructure.
02:41In addition to Yashio City,
02:44this road in Kumamoto City is submerged.
02:48In Kumamoto Prefecture,
02:53Chiba Prefecture,
02:56and Osaka Prefecture, etc.
03:02In the first place, most of the current infrastructure maintenance was carried out during the high-level economic growth period.
03:09The general operating year is said to be 50 years.
03:14According to the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport,
03:17the number of years the road has been submerged is about 7% in 2022.
03:25In 20 years, it will increase rapidly to about 40%.
03:32Japan, where the strengthening of the infrastructure is urgent.
03:37In the meantime, Prime Minister Ishiba said,
03:41We strongly recommend the Japanese Red Reformation of Reiwa.
03:49How can we protect the people with limited resources?
03:56And there are other problems that threaten our lives.
04:02The high price of gasoline for rice.
04:06In addition, the rising medical expenses.
04:10The burden of the people is on the right shoulder.
04:14So, today,
04:17Will the price of rice decrease due to the release of Michikumai?
04:21And the reduction of gasoline subsidies hit the people hard.
04:26Is this the decision of Prime Minister Ishiba?
04:30Special discussion.
04:33TV Tackle with Takeshi Riito.
04:41Our generation has done a lot of special construction.
04:47It's a little scary that it's all going to be in the same state at the same time.
04:54How many times have you been to Fukuoka City Station?
04:58There have been thousands of accidents every year.
05:05Is it so common?
05:08It's almost aging.
05:10Yes, there are various causes.
05:12In the first place, the road that is not limited to sewage is about 50 years old.
05:18It's just the right time.
05:21Originally, from an earlier stage,
05:24We have to use the budget for maintenance and aging.
05:29Unfortunately, even if you use the budget for maintenance and aging,
05:33It's not a vote in the election.
05:35From a political point of view,
05:37It would be better to create a new infrastructure and make the area healthy.
05:41In that case, the maintenance and aging budget will be used less.
05:47I thought it was natural that there was an infrastructure.
05:51Japan before the Olympics,
05:53The road was not paved.
05:55Japan was like that.
05:57The next generation is natural to have an infrastructure.
06:00I think this scale of infrastructure is natural.
06:03But it was built in a high-growth period.
06:05If you don't fold it soon, the population will decrease and aging will begin.
06:09It takes a lot of energy to make something new.
06:13How do you feel about the idea of recruiting not only politicians, but also Japanese people as a whole?
06:21Mr. Abe, what do you think?
06:23Don't you like the new one?
06:25I like the new one.
06:27Don't you feel like you're going to fix the old one and use it?
06:30If you ask a member of the National Assembly,
06:32He said, I took that bridge.
06:34I fixed that bridge.
06:36He said he fixed it.
06:38If you fix it, you won't get a lot of votes.
06:41If you fix it, you'll get a lot of votes.
06:45If you fix it, you'll get a lot of votes.
06:50Don't you cut the tape?
06:52I don't cut the tape when I fix it.
06:55If you cut the tape on the new one, it's all on the media.
06:59Then you should cut the tape when you fix it.
07:02If you cut the tape when you fix it, you'll get a lot of votes.
07:06In Tokyo, 70% to 80% of the sewage is mixed with sewage.
07:12In Tokyo, 70% to 80% of the sewage is mixed with sewage.
07:19If you dig it all up and try to fix it, it'll cost you 10 trillion yen.
07:24If you dig it all up and try to fix it, it'll cost you 10 trillion yen.
07:33If there's a problem with the repair, it's going to be a big deal.
07:38If there's a problem with the repair, it's going to be a big deal.
07:42There are many pipes under the road.
07:45There are many pipes under the road.
07:54If you replace one pipe with two, it's like a new one.
08:00The sewage pipe is checked once every five years.
08:04The sewage pipe is checked once every five years.
08:09Yashio City approved it three years ago.
08:14It takes a lot of money to make it completely new.
08:19It takes a lot of money to make it completely new.
08:22Even if you spend 10 trillion yen for 20 years, it's 5 billion yen in a year.
08:26How much burden will the country carry?
08:30Mr. Watanabe, I heard that you were fighting against the aging of the infrastructure.
08:40Yes, I happened to be the president of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport.
08:46This is the Bacaton Education of the People's Party.
08:49Bacaton Education?
08:50Anyone can become a president if they win three times.
08:54It's a passing incident.
08:56Yes.
08:57Since it's a director-general response, the director-general comes to explain.
09:02That means it's a ministerial treatment.
09:05I think I was really stupid.
09:09When I was the vice president, there was a discount rate.
09:13There is a right to hire high-end people used by the government.
09:18I set it to 4%.
09:20It's 1% now.
09:22It's super low interest rate.
09:24It's stupidly high.
09:27I've been protecting it for over 20 years.
09:32When I was the vice president, I should have told you to review it every year.
09:37I'm reflecting on it now.
09:40Mr. Otake and I talked about public business.
09:44We talked about how to build a lot of roads that no one can pass.
09:48We talked about what to do with so many bridges.
09:50We talked about public business costs.
09:53I didn't know that there was an old-age compensation fee in it.
09:59I didn't know it well.
10:01But it's the same as the discount rate.
10:04We know what will happen in 50 years.
10:09We know what will happen under the road.
10:12Politicians have been saying that it won't be a ticket.
10:17We have to do this.
10:19We have to give money to the country.
10:21If we do something new, we'll give money.
10:24Public business has been going on like this.
10:28It's not about whether it will be a ticket or not.
10:31It's about what to do when it's advanced.
10:34We should have been prepared for this.
10:38This is the cost of public business in the past.
10:42In the era of high-speed growth, 10% of GDP was spent.
10:47Since 2000, various criticism has made it 5%.
10:52How about you, Mr. Furui?
10:54Do you think it's better to increase it?
10:55I don't think there is a need to increase it in Japan.
10:57We have to fold it more and more.
10:59The fact that high-speed growth has been developed means that it's a set with cars.
11:02Japan has built a Japanese society based on cars.
11:08At the same time, public business has been developed.
11:11There are more and more people who can't ride a car.
11:14I think it's better to reduce the scale of cities and towns.
11:21How about you, Mr. Watanabe?
11:23Do you think it's better to increase public business?
11:26Like sewage and waterways, there is a system to charge a fee.
11:33There is also a system that does not charge a fee for roads and high-speed roads.
11:39There are several ways to go.
11:41Regarding the fee-charging system,
11:45I think it's better to have a little more of the idea of public business.
11:49Leave the operation and maintenance to the private sector.
11:52Including charge collection.
11:54That kind of approach is still in the experimental stage.
11:59The private sector and the public sector are gradually shifting to pay each other.
12:04For example, a private construction company is operating a high-speed road in Aichi Prefecture.
12:10It's going to be blackened.
12:12So, is it okay to make infrastructure waterways and sewerage waterways public or public-private?
12:20There is a lot of debate about this.
12:22However, if I don't have this budget,
12:25I think that public-private cooperation should be discussed.
12:31But from the previous discussion, including Mr. Furui's discussion,
12:35if that happens, we can't spend money anymore.
12:41There is a call for regional creation,
12:44but in the region, public business, everything,
12:48such as roads and construction, are disappearing.
12:53As a result, people in the urban areas are gathering in Tokyo,
12:57and the urbanization is progressing in the region.
13:00That's also progressing.
13:02What should we do about that?
13:04How far should we protect a single house in the mountains,
13:09such as a single house in the center of the region?
13:15Do we have to spend all the tax money on waterways and electricity?
13:19Do we have to spend all the tax money on a single house?
13:23Or do we have to think about the burden?
13:26You're right.
13:27A single house costs a lot of money.
13:31I mentioned 210,000 tons this time,
13:34but if necessary, we plan to expand this amount further.
13:40We are determined to improve the situation
13:44where the distribution is stagnant and stagnant.
13:52On the 14th, the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries
13:55decided to issue a deposit of 210,000 tons,
13:58which is the country's reserve.
14:01First, under the condition of buying back the 150,000 tons
14:05within a year,
14:07the rice was sold to Chinese companies such as JA.
14:12In the first place, the rice disappeared from the supermarket shelves
14:16around the summer of last year.
14:20At that time, the government said,
14:24If the rice is supplied in order in the future
14:27and the distribution of the rice is smooth,
14:30it will reach a certain price level
14:33in the future.
14:38However, the price rose to 4,185 yen per kilogram after that.
14:45The reason is...
14:48In fact, the production of rice increased by 180,000 tons
14:52compared to the previous year.
14:55However, the amount of rice collected by Chinese companies
14:59decreased by 210,000 tons compared to the previous year.
15:05It is seen that this 210,000 tons
15:08is the background of the price rise.
15:12If the rice is supplied sufficiently
15:14but does not come out to the market,
15:17it is necessary to think that it is stuck somewhere.
15:22Was the timing of the distribution of rice
15:25appropriate this time?
15:28And will the price of rice really go down?
15:34There are other burdens for the people.
15:38Reducing subsidies for gasoline
15:42Gasoline prices have gone up.
15:44Well, it's a world situation like this,
15:47so it can't be helped,
15:49but it's still a little too high.
15:51I feel that the price has gone up considerably.
15:56It's tough, but I have to live.
16:01I have to do something.
16:05Last December and January,
16:08the government reduced subsidies for gasoline for two consecutive months.
16:13As a result, the national average price of regular gasoline
16:18was 184.5 yen per liter,
16:21which is the highest in the past.
16:25The price of regular gasoline has gone up by about 10 yen in those two times.
16:30I think it's a pretty high standard
16:34because I was doing it with the feeling that
16:37the subsidy for taxes should not exceed 170 yen.
16:41A cleaning shop in Shinagawa Prefecture
16:44The shop owner runs around the city
16:47with his car on the 5th of every week.
16:51If I go back today,
16:54I think I'll run about 25 to 30 kilometers.
16:59The delivery fee is not collected from customers.
17:03Therefore, the higher the number of visits,
17:06the higher the price of gasoline,
17:08which leads to higher costs.
17:12Unfortunately, we are doing business
17:15at a low price of 100 yen or 200 yen.
17:19It's a monthly payment,
17:21but when I look at the application form,
17:24the January application form is coming soon,
17:27so it's a problem.
17:29I'm more afraid of the application form.
17:32The shop has stepped up its cleaning fee
17:35from 5% to 10% from January.
17:38I don't know much about gasoline,
17:41but there are a lot of taxes
17:43on two or three cars,
17:45and they are sold at the gas station.
17:48That's how much it costs.
17:50So I want to stop this part for a while.
17:53I want the government to show me
17:56what I can do in return.
17:59At this rate, it's a waste of money.
18:03Gasoline is not only the price of the body,
18:06but also the tax on oil, coal,
18:09gasoline, the tax on gasoline,
18:12the tax on consumption,
18:15and so on.
18:20Among them, the tax on gasoline
18:23was introduced in 1974
18:26for the purpose of road maintenance.
18:31Although it is a tax on gasoline,
18:34it continued to this day as if nothing had happened.
18:37In December of last year,
18:39the three parties, the people, the republic,
18:42and the people's democracy,
18:44agreed to abolish it.
18:47No, that's when we're talking about the three parties.
18:50Can the government say that it's this time?
18:54Prime Minister Ishiba avoided making a statement
18:57about the time of the abolition.
19:00He expressed his anger
19:03to the people of Japan.
19:06Today's guest is Mr. Hiroyuki Kishi,
19:09the director of the former Ministry of Economy and Industry.
19:13I used to be the director of the Ministry of Natural Resources and Energy.
19:16Since then, I've been thinking,
19:19don't mess with me, it's strange.
19:22In other words, as you can see from the words,
19:25it was supposed to end in a few years,
19:28but it's already been 50 years,
19:31and the tax on gasoline is 73.4 trillion yen,
19:34which is the highest in the past.
19:37To reduce the burden on the people,
19:40what should the government do?
19:43Is gasoline the best?
19:45It's the best.
19:46I've never heard of it.
19:48I thought it was a charity.
19:50There's nothing good about it.
19:53There's nothing good about it?
19:56There's nothing good about it.
19:58Please do something about it.
20:01It's the opinion of all the people.
20:03What is this?
20:04The government is making the most money.
20:07Mr. Kishi, are you angry at the tax on gasoline?
20:10In the first place, the tax on gasoline,
20:13as you can see from the words,
20:15is for a while.
20:17The officials use the words very accurately,
20:20so if it's for a while,
20:23they have to end it as soon as possible.
20:26It's been 50 years.
20:28It's been half a century.
20:30From a tax point of view,
20:32it's important.
20:33Especially 15 years ago,
20:35it wasn't for road maintenance.
20:37It was used for everything.
20:39It's a general tax.
20:41So the tax on gasoline
20:43is a big one.
20:45I don't want to end it.
20:47Mr. Furui, what do you think?
20:49The tax on gasoline is suspicious.
20:52It's been suspicious for a long time.
20:55I don't think it's a good tax,
20:58but people who don't drive
21:00are taxed on gasoline.
21:02Especially at home,
21:04people have to deliver a lot of things.
21:07No one can quit,
21:09so it can't be helped if it gets expensive.
21:12It was good for road maintenance.
21:15It was reasonable for road maintenance.
21:19As you said, it was a general tax
21:21for more than 10 years.
21:23Isn't it a tax on inflation?
21:25Isn't it a tax on aging?
21:27What's strange is that
21:29the tax on gasoline,
21:31or the total tax on gasoline,
21:34is about 40 percent.
21:36It's almost 40 percent.
21:38So it's a tax on gasoline
21:40at a high price.
21:42We have to lower it a little.
21:45The tax on gasoline
21:47and the tax on petroleum and coal
21:50are different.
21:52There's a tax on gasoline,
21:54a tax on gasoline,
21:56and a tax on consumption.
21:58There's a tax on consumption
22:00and a tax on inflation.
22:02Isn't it unfair
22:04not to set a deadline for delivery?
22:07It's the same thing.
22:09I don't know when the deadline will be.
22:12Is the government okay with that?
22:15It's a technical problem,
22:17but the prime minister
22:19has been able to set a deadline.
22:22Is he not motivated to set a deadline?
22:25At the very least,
22:27he agreed at the beginning,
22:29but he didn't move
22:31because he wanted to discuss it.
22:33Before that,
22:35there was an example
22:37of a clinic shop.
22:39They said it was hard
22:41to work in the city.
22:43They said,
22:45It doesn't matter
22:47how hard you work.
22:49If you work normally
22:51and earn 3-4 million yen,
22:53you can't afford
22:55to pay this much.
22:57Compared to other taxes,
22:59even though it was
23:01a temporary tax,
23:03it became a general tax.
23:05It became a general tax.
23:07I feel like gasoline
23:09is being deceived.
23:11Obviously, it's being deceived.
23:13It's being deceived.
23:15It's being deceived.
23:17I don't think it's a good idea.
23:19As Mr. Kishi said,
23:21it's very difficult
23:23because it's a general tax.
23:25It's much better than
23:27paying it with a pension.
23:29When we buy something,
23:31we have to pay
23:33a transportation fee.
23:35Even if it's a temporary tax,
23:37it's very efficient
23:39as a general tax.
23:41You said you wanted to pay
23:43the pension,
23:45but you don't know
23:47how long it will be.
23:49Let's decide
23:51the temporary tax now.
23:53Let's decide it this year.
23:55Let's decide it.
23:57It's the voice of the people.
23:59It's being deceived.
24:01It's being deceived.
24:03The next money issue
24:05is rice.
24:07Rice has to be cheap.
24:09You said it would be cheaper
24:11if it was three rice.
24:13It's not a lie.
24:15Why did you run out of rice?
24:17Did you buy it?
24:19I hid it.
24:21I hid it.
24:23I hid it.
24:25I hid it.
24:27I hid it.
24:29I hid it.
24:31I hid it.
24:33I hid it.
24:35I hid it.
24:37Last year,
24:39the price of three rice went up.
24:41Then,
24:43the price of rice
24:45went down
24:47to 210,000 tons.
24:49Why didn't you sell
24:51when the price went up?
24:53That's right.
24:55There are 1 million tons.
24:57There are 1 million tons.
24:59Why did the price go up?
25:01As Mr. Watsanabe said,
25:03it's a family problem,
25:05so they probably waited
25:07for the price to go up.
25:09If the rice was sold,
25:11the supply would increase.
25:13If the price went up,
25:15the rice would be sold.
25:17Before that,
25:19you should have sold the rice.
25:21You should have sold the rice
25:23first,
25:25but you were late.
25:27One of the reasons
25:29why the rice was sold late
25:31was that there was not enough production
25:33for the rice to be sold.
25:35I think it's a big problem
25:37that the rice was not sold
25:39because there was not enough
25:41production for the rice to be sold.
25:43Then, why did you say
25:45there was not enough production?
25:47The distribution was diversified.
25:49The supply was stable
25:51through JA,
25:53so it was not good
25:55for many businesses
25:57to trust JA's information
25:59and make a decision.
26:01There were many players
26:03who participated in the distribution.
26:05Even small companies
26:07were not able to
26:09control the distribution.
26:11They were able to control
26:13the demand and supply
26:15in various ways,
26:17but they failed.
26:19Despite that,
26:21the price went up
26:23because they did it
26:25in this way.
26:27So, if the quality of the rice
26:29was not good,
26:31they should have
26:33made a decision
26:35last year.
26:37They should have
26:39made a decision
26:41last year.
26:43Is it necessary
26:45to make a decision
26:47now?
26:49Yes, it is necessary,
26:51but the problem
26:53is that the Japanese
26:55economy has been
26:57stagnant for a long time
26:59and the government
27:01is buying up
27:03all the rice.
27:05The rice production
27:07was stagnant
27:09in the Heisei era,
27:11but the consumption
27:13has decreased
27:15since then.
27:17The rice consumption
27:19has decreased
27:21compared to the past.
27:23The government
27:25is buying up all the rice,
27:27but the price
27:29has gone up.
27:31It is a very important point.
27:33The rice production
27:35is stagnant.
27:37On the other hand,
27:39the government
27:41is making rice for
27:43livestock.
27:45The government
27:47is making rice for
27:49livestock.
27:51There is a contradiction
27:53between the government
27:55and the government.
27:57There is a contradiction
27:59between the government
28:01and the government.
28:03The rice production
28:05has gone up
28:07because the government
28:09is making rice for
28:11livestock.
28:13It's like a garden.
28:15It's like a garden.
28:17It's like a garden.
28:19It's like a garden.
28:21You
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28:53Muchu ni nareru ashita kurashi e
28:55Toumin de ii yume miretara
28:57Hai
28:58Ayai ne
28:59Hachimitsu wa betabeta suru kedo
29:01Hai
29:02Ah, katamatta
29:04Shibire, Itamina, Aka no Kanpou Serapii
29:08Iron na keiken wo tsumarete kita anata no REBELU wa soutou na mono desu
29:12REBELU appu shita ima koso
29:15Hai kurasu na shigoto ni chousen shite mite wa
29:17Hai kurasu kyuujin mo tasuu keisai
29:19Minna no tenshoku madoguchi
29:21Mainami Tenshoku
29:23Smurfs for all
29:25Kiekomu kisetsu wa yori umai na
29:29Umasou ni taberu ne
29:32Kataru ee kao de
29:35Akai kisune to midori no tanuki
29:38Ima nara
29:39Yuukyan no ninki kouza ga 5000 yen waribiki
29:42Bolpengi ya Rinpakeya mo
29:44Takkeishi ya Iryoujimu mo
29:47Nanto 5000 yen waribiki
29:49Ni gatsu juushichi nichi made
29:51Yuukyan
29:53Jabara Sanbou
29:54Kyou wa Jabara Nodoame no furusato ni kite imasu
29:57Jabara wa maboroshi no kajitsu
29:59Maboroshi
30:00Koko ni shika nain desu
30:01Maboroshi ga Nodoame ni
30:03Tsumari
30:04Sukkiri
30:05Jabara Nodoame
30:08Chigau chigau
30:09Kono shujinko wa iroiro na toporo de okane wo karete ite
30:11Doushira ii ka wakaranai nda yo
30:13Datoshira dou suru
30:14Hai, koko de Adire da
30:15Himitsu gensho de soudan muryou
30:17Saimu seiri no soudan wa
30:18012031674 ni saimu nashi ni
30:20Adire Houritsu Jimusho
30:23The Atsugiri
30:24No, no, The Atsugiri
30:25The Atsugiri
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30:27The Atsugiri
30:28The Atsugiri
30:29The
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30:36The Atsugiri
30:38Agoda
30:40Agoda nara hotel ga yasui
30:43Agoda nara louji mo yasui
30:46Agoda nara ryokan mo yasui
30:48Mainichi otoku da Agoda
30:51Ima sugu yoyaku
30:53Ima hontou ni seisakuteki wa tenkanki ni natte iru to omotte ite
30:56Hitotsu sonokonkai no kome no nedan ni kanshi no
30:59Kansetsuki na youi ni narieru kamo tte iu no de iu to
31:01Sakune gurai kara sakimono torihiki hajimatteru no desu ne kome no ne
31:04Kome wo market kashimashou
31:05Tousei keizai kara dashimashou
31:07Shisaku no hokosei no hitotsu de aru to
31:09Kou natte kuru to
31:10Kondo wa michikumai no yakuwari kawatte kuru to omaimasu
31:12Tsumari
31:13Shijou ga kontororu dekinaku natte kuru wake desu kara
31:15Sonotoki ni
31:16Aisera sakimono tsukutte mo sa
31:18Mata kontororu shiteru ja
31:19Maa chotto
31:21Ookina hoko toshite sou natteku toki ni
31:22Michikumai no yakuwari tte iu no ga
31:23Soko de uncontrollable ni natta toki ni
31:25Soshite shika mo tatoeba komugi toka mo yunyuu dekinai to
31:27Sensou ga kaigai de atta toka shite ne
31:29Totoki ni demo chanto sono kodomotachi no inochi mo fukumete
31:31Okome ga teikyo dekimasu yo
31:33Tte iu imi de no michikumai wa boku ga arikara tsutsuyo to omaimasu
31:35Michikumai maitoshi seifu ga kacchi yatteru kara
31:37Sono bun nedan ga agatte wakare desu ne okome tte ne
31:39Sono bun
31:40Michikumai kawanakereba
31:41Sono bun nedan to kome tte tagaru janai desu ka
31:43Genpa dou natteru ka tte yuttara
31:45Konaida made 5kg 2cm chotto datta no ga
31:48Ima 5kg de 4cm natteru to
31:50Sono kurai kome dake ga
31:52Chotto toshitsu tte agatteru na
31:54Otakuさんのおっしゃることはその通りだと思いますし
31:56お米って多くの人の生活に関わるので大事なんですけど
31:59やっぱりお米って誰かが作ってるっていうのも事実じゃないですか
32:02作ってる人たちがどんどん減っていって
32:04生産量が今の需要をさらに下回るレベルまでいくっていうのが
32:07未来大いにありえると僕は思っていて
32:09そのことを考えていくと
32:11米の価格が急に上がるのは厳しいですけど
32:13やっぱりむしろ高めにいって上がっていかないと
32:15生産者がどんどん撤退しちゃうっていうのがあります
32:17しかも生産者のところで
32:19電気代も水道代もいわゆる
32:22お米の値段がどんどん上がってるから
32:24お米の値段を高く
32:26私はもう生産者のために
32:28高くなってもしょうがないやって
32:30野菜もそうだけどしょうがないやって
32:32買える人間は買おうと思ってたんだけど
32:34アガーさんの言う通り
32:36しかもそれが生産者の手元に届かない
32:38届いてないって話聞いてびっくりしちゃった
32:40おっしゃる通り
32:42それは例えば今JAとか大手の卸はそこまで
32:44多分そういうことしてないと思うんですけど
32:46もう少し直接的な仲介業者の人たちが
32:48その高い利幅を取ってる可能性は結構あるので
32:50その部分っていうのはちょっとこう
32:52もう少し実態早くしたほうがいいと思います
32:54どうすればいいんですか
32:56でも好きな農家を見つけて
32:58そこから直接買えばいいんじゃないですか
33:00好きなお米のブランドとか農家さん見つけて
33:02それはだんだん増えてます
33:04工学療養制度の見直しについてでございます
33:06現役世代を中心に
33:08保険料負担は
33:10大きな課題となっております
33:12こうした状況を踏まえ
33:14保険料負担の抑制にも
33:16つなげますため
33:18見直しを行うことといたしました
33:48地域に引き上げる方針を決めているのだ
33:52果たしてどれくらいの負担増になり
33:54国民の生活に
33:56どんな影響を及ぼすのか
34:00千葉県に住む浜島明美さん
34:0229歳の時に
34:04乳がんと診断され
34:06一度は良くなったものの
34:086年前に再発
34:12現在はステージ4
34:14内臓や骨への転移も見つかり
34:163週間に一度通院し
34:18治療を受けているという
34:46でも
34:48切り詰めるというか
34:50分を確保しなきゃって
34:52働いているのに
34:54上がるって
34:56嘘でしょって思いました
34:58浜島さんの場合
35:00毎月およそ
35:024万4千円の自己負担額が
35:06将来的に6万円以上になる可能性が
35:10ほぼ家賃と変わらない額が
35:12毎月
35:14消費がんだけでかかる
35:16ってなると
35:18やってけないよって
35:20今3週間に一度行ってるけど
35:22もう2ヶ月に一度とか
35:243ヶ月に一度とか
35:26治療の回数を減らす
35:28ペースを減らそうかな
35:30と思いました
35:32なので本当
35:34生きるか死ぬかの問題だと思う
35:38病院に通っている
35:40患者の声も聞いてみると
35:44病人いじめじゃない?
35:46お金が本当はあるのよね
35:50そういうの引き出してもらえば
35:52国にお金があるってこと
35:54だと思いますけど
35:58まだその前にやるべきことが
36:00たくさんあるんじゃないかと
36:02思うので
36:04無駄なお金、税金が使われている部分を
36:06まずそちらが最初なんじゃないかな
36:08とは思います
36:11負担額引上げの大きな要因は
36:14岸田政権が決めた
36:16少子化対策などに投じる費用
36:20およそ3分の1を
36:22高額療養費などの社会保障費で
36:24賄うとも言われている
36:2812日
36:30がん患者団体は福岡厚労大臣に
36:32直接引上げ凍結を求めた
36:36一旦凍結を検討することを
36:38お願い致しました
36:40非常に短期間で
36:42決定されていること
36:44また患者の意見や
36:46実際利用している患者のデータも
36:48触れられていませんでした
36:50制度の見直し自体の凍結を求める
36:52患者団体に対し
36:54政府は
36:56一部修正案を
36:58検討しているものの
37:00今年8月からの段階的
37:02引上げは変えない姿勢だ
37:04この後
37:06多発性骨髄種と診断され
37:08高額療養費制度を利用している
37:10岸博之氏の
37:12怒り爆発
37:34後でやります
37:36締め火が近いのに
37:38ああ
37:40業務が進まん
37:42ラクラク勤体は勤体情報の不備を自動で通知
37:44確認修正作業を
37:46効率化できて
37:48業務がスムーズ
37:50ラクラク勤体
37:52雨と
37:54太陽のそばで
37:56そのヨーグルト作りは
37:58始まる
38:00ビズファーム
38:02アロエヨーグルト
38:04私たちは
38:06患者様第一を心がけています
38:08今よりも綺麗に
38:10いつまでも美しく
38:12その思いを支えたい
38:14あなたの綺麗いつまでも
38:16品川スキンクリニック
38:18品川美容外科
38:20ビズリーチ
38:22あの企業も本気の採用
38:24驚きと幸せを
38:26共に生み出す仲間が欲しい
38:28社長は本気だ
38:30即戦力と企業をつなぐ
38:32ビズリーチ
38:34野球界が本気の採用
38:36野球界を盛り上げる仲間を
38:38ビズリーチで探しています
38:40大皿晴れは本気だ
38:42即戦力と野球界をつなぐ
38:44ビズリーチ
38:46J1は来たのはこの瞬間
38:48これがこれ
38:50これがこれが
38:52これが私たちの絶頂だ
38:54これが私たちの絶頂だ
38:56これが私たちの絶頂だ
38:58これが私たちの絶頂だ
39:00ピッピーバー
39:02戦記でっしょシンボギア4
39:043曲
39:06エースコーク
39:08エースのわかめ
39:10わかめすきすき
39:12わかめすきすき
39:14お前はどこのわかめじゃ
39:16わかめ
39:18わかめ
39:20アメリカ大統領が
39:22赤いハルクと勝つ
39:24かかってこいよ
39:26マーベルスタジオ最新作
39:28キャプテンアメリカ
39:30ブレイブニューワールド
39:32約束にまっすぐ
39:34都道府県民協賽は約束します
39:36加入しやすい
39:38手ごろの掛け金であること
39:40残った掛け金は
39:42少しでも多くお戻しすること
39:44前を向いて生きる人たちのために
39:46都道府県民協賽グループ
39:48今なら
39:50ユーキャンの人気口座が
39:525000円割引
39:54ボールペンジやリンパケアも
39:56作研室や
39:58医療ジムも
40:00なんと5000円割引
40:022月17日まで
40:04ユーキャン
40:06これ真面目にふざけんじゃねーよと思ってます
40:08私自身実はこの高額療養
40:10施設をもう2年間使ってます
40:12病気なさったから
40:14今の病気がこれ当然
40:16ずっと治療が続いてまして
40:18でこの高額療養施設のお世話になってまして
40:20やっぱりこの制度がいかに優れた制度かは
40:22誰よりも実感してるつもりなんですね
40:24つまり
40:26私なんかはまだ
40:28年取ってますからいいんですけども
40:30この制度の一番影響を受けるのは
40:32例えば40代50代で
40:34家庭を持っていて
40:36まだ子育てとかにお金がかかる世代
40:38これ一番影響があるわけです
40:40本当に重篤な病気の人が
40:42治療を下手したら諦める
40:44特に働いてる世代若い世代が
40:46そういうバカなことを平気でやるんですかと
40:48理解できません
40:50僕も本当嫌なんですけど
40:52岸さんと本当完全同じ意見で
40:54同じ意見で
40:56今の嫌なところは
40:58同じで嫌なんですけど
41:00削るところはやっぱり間違ってると思うんですよ
41:02だって本当にやっぱり
41:04現役世代の負担を減らすためとか
41:06って言ってましたけど
41:08でも本当に現役世代で収入がある方が
41:10かつかしてやってる中で
41:12さらに負担が増えちゃってすごい酷だと思うんですね
41:14だから本当は削るとかそこじゃなくて
41:16前でこういう見てる方も出演者もスタッフも
41:18高齢の方がこういう番組だから言いますけど
41:20なんだろうな
41:22やっぱり
41:24医療費の窓口負担をやっぱり
41:26前世代は基本的に3割にした方がいいと思うんですよ
41:28もう時代が変わったから
41:301割負担の人たちっていうのが
41:32そこの負担が大きすぎると
41:34だから現状高齢の方は収入が少ないから
41:361割負担ですよってなってますけど
41:38でも実際は資産がある方もたくさんいるわけじゃないですか
41:40それを全部資産の方も含めて
41:42今基本的に1割負担
41:441割負担という風になっている
41:46やっぱりここはフェアに
41:48前世代1回3割にするって風にしないと
41:50だいたい人口多いし
41:52僕も基本的なスタンスは皆さんと一緒ですね
41:54やっぱり長期で継続で
41:56治療を受けている人にとっては
41:58これは致命的な制度ですし
42:00逆に言うと世界に誇る日本の
42:02セーフティーネットの制度だと思いますから
42:04これをいかに守っていくかという方向が
42:06正しい議論のあり方だと思いますと
42:08いや本当に国民会保険があるっていうことの
42:10素晴らしさは
42:12誇らしいことだと思います
42:14ただちょっとこれだけ言いたいのは
42:16その議論で言えば
42:18そしてここはメディアで多くの人が見ている前提で言えば
42:20これに反対することが
42:22基本だと思うんですね
42:24凍結した方がいいよなという話になってくると思うんですけど
42:26やっぱその背景もある程度理解しておいた方がいいとは思っていて
42:28新しい薬ってどんどん出てくるんですよね
42:30その出てくる薬って
42:32どんどん高くなっているんですよ
42:34それこそ数千万とか
42:361億とか新しい薬を作るために
42:38それはすごい高いお金で行われていて
42:40結局その例えば1億円だったら
42:42その1億円と日々払っているものの差額の部分というのは
42:44誰かがまた負担しなきゃいけないというのがあって
42:46この辺の部分というのはやっぱりこうなんか
42:48感情論だけで議論できないところだと思っているので
42:50そこは逆に言えば
42:52新しい薬どこまで医療保険が適用するかという問題だから
42:54そこはわけで考えた方がいいですよね
42:56だから大事な問題は
42:58今国民の2人に1人はがんにかかる時代なんです
43:00長期の治療が必要なんです
43:02そういう現実を考えないとだめです
43:04岸さんぐらいお金があっても
43:06治療費高いなと思うということですね
43:08お金ないから
43:10大学の教授の給料は安いです
43:12これやると
43:14受診控えとか
43:16病状が悪化するという危険性があるんですよね
43:18病状が悪化したら
43:20余計医療費かかりますよ
43:22なのでこれはセーフティーネットなんですよね
43:24これを廃止するとどうなるのか
43:26例えば疾風薬ですよ
43:28これ保険適用するべきかどうかという議論なんかも
43:30全然されてないんですよね
43:32疾風薬って保険適用されてないんですか
43:34されてるんです
43:36あんなものにするかという問題
43:38市販の疾風薬と
43:40医者からもらう疾風薬
43:42どこが違うのっていう
43:44ちょっと違うの
43:46違いますよ
43:48あれね絶対違う
43:50私も
43:52保険適用の
43:54モーラステープっての張ってますけど
43:56ものすごい効きます
43:58市販のものより
44:00でもそれを薬局で買えるようにすればいいじゃないですか
44:02わざわざ病院に
44:04安く買えるんですモーラステープ
44:06例えば何かがんって
44:08自己責任とは言えないと思うんですよ
44:10多分本当になっちゃう病気
44:12だからそれは保険でいいと思うんですけど
44:14例えば虫歯とかって
44:16ほぼほぼ自己責任だと思うんですね
44:18いやいやいや
44:20でもやっぱり歯をちゃんと磨く
44:22磨くけど
44:24この後虫歯は本当に
44:26自己責任なのか
44:28古市の六次理論を徹底討論
44:30ここからはご覧のスポンサーの提供でお送りします
45:00ダブルの効果が耳鳴りを治す
45:02鳴りピットで耳鳴りすっきり
45:04原沢製薬
45:18北海道の美味しさをまっすぐ
45:20四つ葉乳業
45:22メルカリ
45:24今一番欲しいものはスニーカーとか
45:26じゃあメルカリで見てみましょう
45:28ラジコン探してて
45:30それもメルカリに?
45:32ありました!
45:34メルカリなら毎日振り曲が
45:36大開催中!
45:38ローソンでハッピーロー
45:52よし!
45:54でもまだ完成じゃない
45:56米うま!
46:04ハッピーロー
46:06ローソン
46:08転校生の早い光さんです
46:10光って呼んでください
46:12じゃあ席はあそこに
46:14動き早っ
46:16今日遊び行っていい?
46:18ネットはJコム光
46:20実質ゼロ円
46:22早いって
46:24タンパク質は取るだけじゃなく
46:26吸収しないと意味がない
46:28高吸収タンパク質
46:3018グラム
46:32自分
46:34追い越す
46:36追い越す
46:38東京マリーン
46:40ネット散歩は不安かい?
46:42ネット散歩はまだ不安かい?
46:44初めての自動車保険
46:46安全運転アプリでサポート
46:50デザイン散歩
46:53今度のモンハンすご!
46:55気候の変化に
46:57止まらない狩り!
46:59そして僕もいる!
47:01頼りにしてます
47:03共天同士の狩りが来る
47:05モンスターハンターオワイルズ
47:07虫歯とかって
47:09ほぼほぼ自己責任だと思うんですね
47:11いやいやいや
47:13いやいやいや
47:15いやいやでもやっぱり
47:17歯をちゃんと磨くしかない
47:19北欧とかそうなんですよ
47:21基本的に医療費はほぼ
47:23ただみたいなものなんですけど
47:25歯は基本的に全額自己負担なんですね
47:27これは理屈でいうと
47:29虫歯は自己責任だからっていう
47:31歯の治療高いぞ
47:33それはちゃんとブラッシングの隙もちゃんと
47:35身につけて
47:3718までは無料でいいと思うんですけど
47:39クリーニングに来いって言われました
47:41クリーニングは保険適用でいいです
47:43虫歯は自己責任じゃないのかと思っちゃうんですよ
47:45クリーニングは
47:47保険適用じゃないでしょ
47:49でも僕古井さんの言ってる意見の
47:51エッセンスの部分は結構賛成できるところもあって
47:53それこそ
47:55口内環境それ大事ですと
47:57口内環境実はいろんな病気につながりますから
47:59僕はすごい大事な話だし
48:01そんなに即座に保険適用外は難しいと思いますけど
48:03多分古井さんが言おうとしてたのは
48:05本人たちが歯磨きをしてしっかり口内環境に
48:07関心を持って
48:09努力をしていくような方向性に
48:11制度を作った方がいいと
48:13虫歯なった後に行くんじゃなくて
48:15行く前から自分で努力して口内環境気をつけてた方が
48:17自分の健康にとってもいいですよと
48:19認知症にもなりづらいですよと
48:21こういう話を各国民が理解しているというのを
48:23促していきましょうという意味では僕は賛成です
48:25僕チョコすごい食べるんで虫歯あるんですけど
48:27チョコ好きなんですね
48:29だけど申し訳ない気がして
48:31自分でチョコ食べて虫歯になっているのに
48:33なんでこれ保険で7割ももらえるんだろうな
48:35それは自己責任ですね
48:37そうですよね
48:39だからそういう風に
48:41もうちょっと保険じゃない範囲を広げたほうがいい
48:43自己責任で言うんだったら
48:45生活習慣病ってあるじゃないですか
48:47この人は飽飲飽食して
48:49生活習慣病になってそして病気になった
48:51これ自己責任
48:53じゃあ保険提供じゃないんですかって話になります
48:55じゃあ糖尿病も
48:57そうなりかねないから
48:59難しい
49:01基本病気は保険でいいと思うんですけど
49:03虫歯は自分で
49:05この後
49:07たけしが語る
49:09日本の医療格差の実態とは
49:11結構お金の優先
49:13持ってる人にはこの医療
49:15と国民保険
49:17使うのはこの医療と
49:19不正室の名優
49:21西田俊之さん
49:23表演者たちが語る
49:25知られざる素顔
49:27たくさんの貴重映像とともに
49:29ありがとう西田さん
49:31火曜夜6時30分
49:35仲間とワイワイもいいけど
49:37家族としっぽりもいいよな
49:39今家族層増えてるって言うからな
49:41こんなお葬式ね
49:43歌なんか歌っちゃって
49:45寂しくなんないのがいいな
49:49悲しいけど楽しい
49:51悲しいけど
49:53ありがとうなんで
49:57これ自由に考えてもいいことなんだよな
49:59よし
50:01自由に家族層
50:03ハッピーハッピー
50:05インスタントン
50:07めっちゃお宝でおいしいの
50:09AGFね
50:11わくわくおいしいAGF
50:13インスタントントン
50:15コーヒー
50:17AGF
50:19それはゆうちょバスという不思議な乗り物
50:21どうかされました?
50:23就職でこの街を出ることになりまして
50:25え?
50:27このバスどこでもいつでも走ってるんです
50:29毎日使いに便利です
50:31ゆうちょ通帳アプリATMも
50:43全世界1億ダウンロード突破
50:45記念イベント開催中
50:47にゃんこ大戦争
50:49チーズインファミチキ
50:51まだ食べてないけど
50:53だってジュワッとファミチキの中にドローリーチーズでしょ
50:55そんなの絶対うまいじゃん
50:57おいちー
50:59濃厚チーズインファミチキ新発売
51:01クリスピーチキンも
51:03まずは三つ折り
51:05美しく
51:07次は封入
51:09ミスなく
51:11作業完了か?
51:13おっと!メールの送付も残っていた
51:15ミスなくやりきれるのか
51:17楽々明細のこと
51:19教えてあげたい
51:21ビアインビアインビアイン
51:23ホテルと過ごしやすいお部屋だわ
51:25広々使える充電に便利
51:27目指したのは
51:29自宅のくつろぎ
51:31ビアインホテルズ
51:33今なら
51:35ゆうきゃんの人気講座が
51:375000円割引
51:39ボールペンジやリンパケアも
51:41作研室や医療ジムも
51:43なんと5000円割引
51:452月17日まで
51:47ゆうきゃん
51:49の出張買取
51:51ご自宅で眠るブランド品
51:53売ってみませんか
51:55お邪魔します
51:57出張も査定も無料
51:59キャンセルもOK
52:01ブランド品の出張買取は
52:03お電話ください
52:05やっぱりこの国は
52:07二重構造になっていて
52:09やっぱり保険なんか
52:11素晴らしいものだと思うんだよね
52:13国民保険っていうのは
52:15それを全然相手にしてない
52:17組織もあるんだよね
52:19結構お金の有続きって
52:21持ってる人にはこの医療
52:23保険使うのはこの医療と
52:25必ず二つあるよね
52:27結構医療と
52:29オーバーラップして分かりとれてる
52:31お金っていうのが
52:33大事だとは分かるけど
52:35これほど裏表があるのは
52:37どうなんだと思うな
52:39というわけで
52:41拍手
52:49WeCarsの社員は
52:51全国およそ250店舗で
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52:55ここまでやるぞ
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53:49神山くん
53:51繋がりました
53:53相棒
53:55じゃばら田んぼ
53:57今日はじゃばらのど飴の
53:59ふるさとに来ています
54:01じゃばらはまぼろしの果実
54:03ここにしかないんです
54:05まぼろしがのど飴に
54:07つまりすっきり
54:09じゃばらのど飴
54:11じゃばらのど飴
54:17全世界1億ダウンロード突破
54:19記念イベント開催中
54:21にゃんこ大戦争
54:23ちゅるちゅる
54:25わんちゅる
54:27ちゅるちゅる
54:29わんちゃんと楽しいおやつ
54:31いなばわんちゅる
54:37いなば
54:39私たちは患者様第一を
54:41心がけています
54:43今よりも綺麗に
54:45いつまでも美しく
54:47その思いを支えたい
54:49あなたの綺麗いつまでも
54:51品川スキンクリニック
54:53品川美容外科
54:55本日の進行