This week, Sofia finds out why the art of woodturning is dying out, and what one community club is doing to save it.
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00:02 - Hello and welcome to Made in Kent live on KMTV.
00:23 I'm Sophia Akin and in tonight's show,
00:25 a Canterbury woodturning club fears for its future
00:28 as more young people shift to online hobbies.
00:31 Are traditional crafts at risk?
00:33 Plus the shortage of allotments in Medway
00:35 is causing a bit of a stir with waiting lists tripling
00:37 in the past four years.
00:40 And as the festive season approaches,
00:41 discover how you can have a sustainable Christmas
00:44 at the Rochester Eco Hubs Christmas Fair.
00:46 But first tonight, with more and more young people's hobbies
00:49 revolving around the online world,
00:51 one Canterbury woodturning club
00:53 fears for its tradition and craft.
00:55 The Garden of England Woodturners Club in Dunkirk
00:57 get together to create a variety of decorations,
01:00 bowls and other items out of just wood.
01:03 But with the club mostly consisting of retirees,
01:05 is the skill under threat?
01:07 Finn McDermott has more.
01:08 - Woodturning was once an essential craft
01:12 needed to make wooden instruments, cutlery
01:13 and other small objects.
01:15 Yet since the 1970s, it has become much more of a hobby
01:19 and a tradition that needs preserving.
01:21 I visited the Garden of England Woodturners Club
01:24 in Dunkirk Village Hall near Canterbury
01:27 to see a woodturning demonstration for myself.
01:30 The club has been going on for 20 years
01:32 and still puts on these kinds of events regularly.
01:35 I was greeted by a group more than happy to show their work.
01:40 Whilst woodturning was once considered
01:42 one of a carpenters many necessary tools,
01:44 nowadays more focus is given to decorative pieces,
01:48 including ornately crafted bowls, candlestick holders
01:50 and artistic impressions burnt
01:52 onto all manner of wooden objects.
01:55 I spoke to Martin Gomme, the club president,
01:58 to get more information on this interesting
02:01 and unique hobby.
02:02 - Clubs, I think probably generally clubs
02:07 can be a bit inward looking.
02:09 Whereas since the pandemic, we've lost quite a few members
02:16 or over the pandemic period.
02:18 We now need to increase our membership.
02:22 So we've got to be looking outwards,
02:25 offering things like introductory sort of taster sessions
02:31 is something we're gonna try.
02:33 We go out to shows and we talk to people,
02:37 country fairs and that sort of thing.
02:39 And hopefully over time, we'll get some more people in.
02:42 - Many people get into woodturning from school
02:46 and take it up again once they retire,
02:48 meaning most members are older men.
02:50 Some in the club are looking to diversify their ranks
02:53 with younger turners and more female members.
02:56 There are some however, who have adapted woodturning
02:59 to more modern mediums.
03:01 Stuart Farini, the turner praised for his decorative talent
03:05 by the club members, uploads his pieces and technical advice
03:08 to his YouTube channel.
03:10 He was demonstrating his abilities on the lathe
03:12 for the enjoyment of the whole Garden of England club.
03:15 Some turners however, feel the hobby is dying out
03:19 in the modern day, with most of the club's members
03:21 being retired.
03:22 Prospects for new members seem sparse.
03:25 So what remains for the future of woodturning?
03:28 Some like Stuart will continue to hold demonstrations
03:31 and post videos online, but other small clubs
03:34 like the Garden of England will continue
03:36 in amongst their own ranks and hope to protect
03:39 their craft against time.
03:41 The hobby has survived many, many centuries.
03:44 So what's a few more?
03:45 Finn McDermott for KMTV.
03:48 - Well, Martin, who we heard from in that piece,
03:50 joins me now to tell me a bit more about woodturning,
03:53 which you've been doing for 20 years.
03:54 So tell me, how did your desire for the hobby all begin?
03:58 - I've always been into doing type hobbies.
04:03 Not particularly sporty, but I used to make model planes
04:09 and do painting, painting molds, that sort of thing.
04:11 Early 2000s, I went to a woodworking show
04:16 and saw somebody turning.
04:18 I thought, I'd like a go at that.
04:20 And I was bitten by the bug, as it were.
04:25 - It does look interesting when you sort of see
04:27 the clips there, but I imagine it's harder
04:29 than it looks, isn't it?
04:31 - It's like anything.
04:33 It's quite quick to learn the basics.
04:37 And then you spend years and years and years
04:40 learning how to do it better and better,
04:43 do more complex pieces.
04:46 - Well, you've brought some of the pieces here
04:48 with you today.
04:49 We've got bowls, we've got, is this a Christmas tree here?
04:53 - It's a Christmas tree, yeah.
04:54 - Fitting, just in time.
04:56 Tell me a bit about some of these different creations.
04:59 You can make quite a few different things
05:01 with a piece of wood, can't you?
05:03 - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:04 If you're on a small scale, people will make lace bobbins.
05:10 That used to be a way into the hobby for some people.
05:15 Pens, traditionally, it was obviously,
05:18 all had to be functional things.
05:21 They had to be useful.
05:23 Whereas now, it's obviously less of an issue.
05:26 So yeah, that's a typical set of my work.
05:31 So we've got bud vases there,
05:34 we've got a little Christmas tree.
05:37 Wooden fruit's always popular.
05:39 I quite like a bit of colour and texture.
05:43 So I carve a lot of my pieces
05:45 and I'll use things like iridescent paints and stains
05:48 and to get the sorts of effects you can see there.
05:52 But it goes much wider than that.
05:54 - And your club's been around for 20 years,
05:56 but unfortunately, it's a hobby that's dying out, isn't it?
05:59 So since the pandemic, and it seems to be sort of,
06:02 you're saying that retirees that are interested in this.
06:04 So that must be a shame
06:05 if you feel like the hobby's dying out a bit.
06:07 - It's, interestingly,
06:10 the sales of woodturning kits
06:13 went up enormously during the pandemic.
06:15 Loads of people, they were locked down, needed a new hobby.
06:19 Yeah, and a lot of those now find
06:21 they haven't got the time to carry on with it.
06:24 Yeah, a lot of people are retirees.
06:28 It's not a very cheap hobby to get into.
06:33 - Yeah, that's the next thing I was going to ask you.
06:36 Is it accessible?
06:36 Can people do this from home
06:37 or do they sort of have to invest
06:38 in one of those woodturners?
06:40 Is that the official name for it, a woodturner?
06:42 - It's a lathe.
06:43 (laughing)
06:45 - Maybe I need to get into it myself,
06:46 find out a bit more about it.
06:47 - No, it's basically,
06:49 you strap a lump of wood to an electric motor
06:53 and then you stick a sharp piece of metal at it
06:56 and you shape it.
06:57 - Sounds a bit dangerous.
06:58 - Well.
06:59 (laughing)
07:01 It's learning to do it safely.
07:02 - Yeah, exactly.
07:04 Is this something that children can get involved in then,
07:06 maybe with some parental guidance
07:08 or learning how to do it safely?
07:10 - It's difficult for us as a club
07:13 because these days one has to worry
07:16 about safeguarding issues.
07:19 Our insurance premium would go up enormously.
07:22 So at the moment,
07:24 we have to limit our membership to over 18s.
07:28 - And just quickly as well,
07:29 for those that maybe do want to come along
07:31 to your woodturning club,
07:32 how can they sort of get involved?
07:34 How are you sort of encouraging people
07:35 to get involved in that?
07:36 - Okay, well, there's the type of activity
07:41 that you'll have seen on the film clip
07:43 where we have a visiting professional demonstrator
07:47 and we get some of the top people in the country.
07:49 And you can't help but learn by watching them.
07:53 And we also have hands-on sessions
07:56 at our other meetings, on our Tuesday night meetings.
08:01 Well, I'd say if anybody is curious or interested,
08:04 is to get in touch.
08:06 Your first meeting is free
08:09 and we can tell you,
08:12 find out what the financial implications might be.
08:16 - Great, Martin, sorry,
08:17 that's all we've got time for today unfortunately,
08:18 but as you say, people can get involved on your website.
08:20 Thank you so much for joining us.
08:22 Really interesting to learn a bit more about that.
08:25 Next tonight, we often talk about growing your own veg
08:27 on Made in Kent, but there's an issue.
08:29 Many say there just aren't that many allotments.
08:32 Medway is home to almost 30,
08:34 but not enough to meet the demand of the thousands
08:37 who are fighting for a space.
08:38 Data shows waiting list numbers have jumped threefold
08:41 in the past four years.
08:43 Medway council say they will commit
08:45 to bringing down these numbers as growing your own
08:46 can improve biodiversity and drive down carbon footprints.
08:50 This is the state of an unused
08:52 and abandoned allotment in Gillingham,
08:55 a disappointing sight for residents
08:57 as 2000 currently wait for their own chance
09:00 to grow fruit and veg
09:01 in one of Medway's 28 allotments,
09:04 but the demand isn't being met.
09:07 We can't get through here.
09:08 As I said, it's been abandoned for some time.
09:09 It's probably been locked up for a while as well,
09:11 but you can just about see through the bars
09:14 just how overgrown everything in here is.
09:16 This is a problem that residents are raising,
09:18 the fact that we have access to green spaces,
09:21 which aren't always being used effectively.
09:24 And nationally, this is an even bigger problem
09:26 with 150,000 currently waiting for a space.
09:30 One resident who is currently sharing a plot
09:32 with a friend in Raynham
09:34 says she's been on the waiting list for three years.
09:37 You walk around the site,
09:39 'cause once you're in through the gate,
09:40 you can walk around other people's plots.
09:42 And some of them are just in absolute disrepair.
09:45 And you think, well, who on earth is,
09:47 clearly no one's looking after this plot.
09:49 So why is someone not being given that chance?
09:51 And I'd absolutely, like I said,
09:54 I managed to get on to share with a friend,
09:56 but I would have loved to have my own plot
09:58 to get stuck into and set up my own way.
10:00 And I know there's so many other people
10:01 that want that opportunity.
10:03 I don't understand why they're not managing it better.
10:07 In a freedom of information request,
10:09 the local Liberal Democrats discovered
10:10 the number of people waiting on a plot in Medway
10:13 has tripled in the last four years.
10:16 In 2018, there were around 700 waiting,
10:19 and now there are a little more than 2,000.
10:23 These people are trying to do their best for their community.
10:26 They know that it's important to grow fresh fruit and veg
10:28 to save the planet from climate change.
10:31 So it's kind of frustrating on their sense
10:33 that they have to wait years and years to do it.
10:37 So in 1971, the government did a report on allotments,
10:41 and they recommended that there should be 15 full-size plots
10:44 per 1,000 households in an area.
10:47 Now, when I did the maths,
10:48 it turns out that Medway's at nine plots per 1,000.
10:51 So there's a huge drop.
10:53 - In 2025, hopefully,
10:54 there'll be an allotment strategy in place.
10:57 But I know people don't want to wait till then.
10:59 So the things I've talked about today,
11:01 like sharing plots,
11:02 like making the most of community spaces where we can,
11:05 all of those things will help.
11:07 And so we're making small steps to do everything we can now
11:10 for a bigger strategy in the future
11:12 that's associated with the local plan.
11:14 - One resident from Rochester has waited since 2015
11:18 for her allotment space,
11:19 which was approved just a few months ago.
11:22 - It took quite a lot.
11:23 I'd actually thought we'd been forgotten,
11:25 and we've fallen off the list, to be honest.
11:27 Yeah, it would be lovely if there were more,
11:28 because the benefits you get from it,
11:30 the making new friends,
11:32 the being outside in green space,
11:35 they're all things that are really good
11:37 for mental health and physical wellbeing.
11:40 - With the demand for allotments increasing
11:42 and residents growing more frustrated by the day,
11:45 they hope it won't be too much longer
11:47 until they're growing their own fruit and veg.
11:49 Sophia Akin for KMTV in Medway.
11:52 Time for a break now,
11:54 but coming up, Rochester EcoHub
11:56 is getting ready to host a Christmas fair
11:58 with sustainable decorations.
11:59 See you soon.
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15:06 - Hello and welcome back to Kent Tonight live on KMTV.
15:14 Now the festive season is upon us.
15:16 Have you thought of how you can be
15:17 a bit more sustainable this Christmas?
15:20 The Rochester Eco Hub is holding a Christmas fair
15:23 this weekend with sustainable gifts and decorations,
15:26 as well as advice on a range of environmental issues.
15:30 Joining me now is Katrina Jameson,
15:32 founder of the Rochester Eco Hub,
15:33 and one of the stallholders, Lizzie Sage from Pure Planet.
15:36 Thank you both for joining us.
15:37 And we've got a lovely display of
15:40 kind of some of those decorations
15:42 and some of those sustainable gifts
15:43 that are going to be at the Eco Fair this weekend.
15:47 - Yeah, this weekend.
15:48 - So tell me a bit more about it, Kat,
15:50 and kind of what people can expect if they come along.
15:52 - Well, there's a huge variety of stalls.
15:54 We've got 24 different organisations
15:56 and businesses coming along,
15:57 ranging from kind of sustainable gifts, decorations,
16:02 to information on energy and green spaces.
16:07 We've got local artists coming
16:11 with sort of real passion for nature.
16:13 So it's just like a huge kind of range of different things.
16:16 - Incredible.
16:17 And Lizzie, you're one of the stallholders
16:19 that's going to be there.
16:19 You've brought some of your decorations with you.
16:22 So tell us a bit more.
16:23 - So we're from Pure Planet,
16:26 which is based at Eternal Lake Nature Reserve
16:27 in Cliff near Rochester.
16:30 And we're really focused on getting people back to nature.
16:33 And we set our little farm shop up
16:36 on Mother's Day actually this year in March.
16:39 And we decided to go for a refill centre there.
16:43 So at Kat's Fair on Saturday,
16:46 I'm going to bring along some refill starter kit hampers
16:50 so people can have the glassware and start their refill.
16:54 And I've brought along my little doggy lovers hamper
16:57 as well, because we get loads of dog walkers
16:59 at the nature reserve with the compostable poo bags
17:02 and compostable treat bags.
17:04 And they can come and do a refill at the shop as well
17:07 with their shampoo.
17:08 - Incredible.
17:09 - Yeah. And then I've got some loose teas
17:11 and we roast our own biodynamic coffee there as well.
17:14 So I'm going to bring that over.
17:16 - Perfect.
17:16 Well, I think we're having a couple
17:17 of technical issues with your mic.
17:19 So we're going to go to a report
17:20 and then we're going to come back
17:21 and talk a bit more about this.
17:22 So yeah, we've got one of our old reports
17:24 to play for you now.
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17:29 - Sorry.
17:29 - Have you ever heard of kombucha?
17:31 Well, if you haven't, it's a fermented tea beverage.
17:35 And here at Saks Shed in Wai, he brews the drink.
17:39 Now it started for him as a lockdown project
17:41 but now it's a bustling business.
17:44 But how do you brew kombucha?
17:46 Well, let's find out.
17:48 - Firstly, today we're brewing the sparkling oolong.
17:51 So this is just a really high quality, sustainable tea.
17:55 This is forest friendly oolong tea from Thailand.
17:58 So it's actually some of the most sustainable tea
18:00 you can get.
18:01 And then we just have organic cane sugars.
18:03 Essentially brew a giant cup of tea in this huge tank.
18:08 So we'll, you basically, yeah,
18:12 just brew that sweetened tea in there.
18:15 Let it cool down at the start of culture
18:18 which is previously fermented kombucha.
18:20 - It's then jarred up and put in a warm room to ferment.
18:24 - This is where the magic happens.
18:25 This is where the babies are born.
18:27 They're otherwise known as the scobies.
18:29 I call them pellicles, but I won't get into that.
18:31 It's very boring.
18:32 But basically this is a part of the process
18:35 that is quite synonymous with kombucha
18:38 and people that have had a go at home,
18:41 they know about and often freaks people out.
18:43 It's these growths on the top, which people call scobies.
18:46 So basically it's a sort of cellulose mat, if you like,
18:51 that's produced by the living yeast and bacteria
18:54 present in the kombucha fermenting away.
18:57 - Once it's ready, it's then bottled up
19:00 and it's ready to go on sale.
19:01 - And now the process is finished,
19:04 I'm gonna try the fig leaf.
19:05 That's one of the flavours that Saks currently has on offer.
19:09 That is very refreshing.
19:13 I love it.
19:14 10 out of 10.
19:15 - Saks been keen to keep the business eco-friendly
19:19 and encourages his buyers to use the bottle return system.
19:23 - These are all of our current bottle returns
19:26 from just this week.
19:27 So we're trying to make a closed loop bottle system here.
19:30 So the whole concept is on returning these bottles,
19:35 incentivising the return of them.
19:37 And so I offer discounts, both direct to my customers
19:42 and to all my stockists,
19:43 the companies that I work with.
19:46 Everyone gets money back for returning these empties to me,
19:50 which helps to keep them in circulation.
19:52 And they all get washed, sterilised, sanitised,
19:55 and then refilled and put back into the system.
19:58 - There are plenty of flavours to choose from.
20:01 And a 750ml bottle costs around £12.
20:05 Gabriel Morris for KMTV in Wye.
20:07 - That was a piece from earlier this year
20:12 with Saks Kombucha.
20:13 Before that piece, we had these two on
20:16 from the Rochester Eco Hub Fair,
20:17 talking about sustainable gifts.
20:19 We had a couple of technical difficulties,
20:21 but we should be all good to carry on.
20:23 So Lizzie, you were just telling me
20:25 about some of your products, some of these baskets,
20:27 and tell me a bit more about how they're sustainable.
20:30 - So our shop over at Eternal Lake and Cliff
20:33 is Pure Planet, and it's all about getting people
20:35 back to nature in a sustainable way.
20:38 So we've got lots of our loose teas
20:41 that we create at the shop.
20:43 This one's our Vitality with lemongrass and pine.
20:46 And people can buy it like this already made up,
20:48 or they can come in and they can use their own
20:51 like kilner jars and fill up with loose tea
20:54 straight from the shop.
20:56 We've got our Biodynamic Coffee as well
20:58 that we sell that comes from a blend
21:00 from Brazil and Peru that's grown completely sustainably,
21:04 biodynamically in fact.
21:06 So there's no chemicals.
21:08 It's totally beautiful, toxin-free coffee.
21:11 And then we do things like this as well.
21:13 This is the Osmio Sanza, which is you can,
21:16 if I get this out quickly, show you.
21:18 So it's a one bottle that you can have
21:21 throughout your whole household for your cleaning.
21:24 And you literally put water in there, four spoons of salt.
21:28 You press the button and it electrolyzes
21:30 and creates a sanitizing fluid that you can use everywhere
21:34 from your toilet, your kitchen, everywhere.
21:37 And it's compliant with, you know,
21:40 it can be used commercially in schools as well.
21:43 - It's good to get those sort of handy gifts
21:45 at Christmas, isn't it?
21:46 - Yeah.
21:47 - And why was that sort of the theme
21:49 was to kind of have sustainable gifts
21:52 and sort of, yeah, things that weren't going to be
21:55 too sort of damaging for the environment
21:57 and climate and things like that.
21:59 Why was that so important?
22:00 - I think Christmas in particular is a sort of time
22:03 when people are buying lots of things, lots of gifts.
22:06 And we know that increasingly people want to make choices
22:09 that are less harmful for the environment.
22:12 People are concerned about the impact that they have
22:15 as individuals on the environment.
22:16 So they wanted to do something that would make it easier
22:19 to buy sustainable things, be inspired by some sort
22:23 of different ideas for presents and ways to kind of
22:26 get involved perhaps in the new year as well
22:28 in local and local community environmental groups
22:32 and green spaces and things.
22:33 So yeah, it's just a nice way to bring lots and lots
22:37 of different businesses and organizations
22:38 together in one place.
22:39 - Yeah, we'll just sort of take a look at some of these
22:41 really interesting sort of decorations and such.
22:45 I guess, why aren't more businesses being sustainable?
22:48 Is it because it can be a little bit more costly
22:50 to businesses?
22:51 It's kind of cost them a little bit more, doesn't it?
22:53 So yeah, why aren't we seeing sort of more businesses
22:56 taking this approach and being more sustainable?
22:59 - I think we're starting to see more businesses
23:02 actually caring about their own environmental impact.
23:06 I think partly it's sort of systemic and we need
23:10 to sort of have different systems to make it easier
23:14 and different regulations to make sure that businesses
23:17 are more sustainable.
23:18 But there's definitely lots of good businesses out there
23:20 like Pure Planet and there's lots of people
23:23 that want to buy sustainably and the more consumers
23:26 are choosing to buy sustainably, the more businesses
23:28 will respond to that as well.
23:30 - And can people sort of, I guess, some of these
23:32 look homemade, don't they?
23:33 So can people sort of make their own decorations?
23:35 Is that something you're sort of doing at Pure Planet,
23:37 sort of homemaking a lot of things?
23:40 - Well, Pure Planet as the shop itself,
23:44 yeah, we're making up our own coffee, our own teas
23:46 and selling it that way.
23:48 But I also at the Eternal Lake Nature Reserve
23:51 where Pure Planet is, we run something called
23:53 Conscious Cafe, we do lots of wellbeing events
23:56 and crafting and the whole thing is wellness in nature
23:59 and that's where a lot of people want to go back to now.
24:02 We're taking people back to nature and creativity
24:05 is a great way to start, so yeah.
24:08 - How can people come along to the Rochester Eco Hub?
24:11 Tell us a bit more about it.
24:12 Do people sort of have to buy a ticket or anything
24:13 to come along?
24:14 - No, it's a totally free event.
24:16 It's on Saturday morning at the Moat House Hall
24:20 which is next to Rochester,
24:21 part of the Rochester Baptist Church just on Crow Lane
24:24 which is really just off the Rochester High Street.
24:26 It's really central and we're running from 10 a.m.
24:29 till 1 p.m.
24:31 So yeah, just pop along and it's free entry
24:33 and everybody's welcome.
24:35 - Why do you think it's so important at Christmas time
24:38 to be thinking sustainably?
24:40 I think that there's some statistics of how much waste
24:43 there can be at Christmas time with plastic waste,
24:45 paper and sort of gifts that just get thrown away.
24:48 So why is it important, I guess, firstly as a business
24:52 to think sustainably but also as a consumer
24:55 to be more thoughtful about the sort of things
24:58 that you're buying?
24:59 - I think it's just a new approach.
25:01 It's like going back to nature like I said before
25:04 and I think the children are really up for it now.
25:06 They understand and a lot of people want to go back
25:10 to glassware, for example.
25:12 I mean, we were saying how beautiful they look anyway
25:14 rather than the plastic on the side.
25:16 This looks so classic, it's so nice.
25:18 It looks retro and vintagey and you can do your own labels
25:22 and you kind of make it your own
25:24 and then the whole process of coming to do refill
25:27 is an event and it's a different shopping experience.
25:31 So you can pull up and you can,
25:32 it's a personalized take on shopping.
25:36 You're looking at things differently
25:38 and you're coming in and you're doing it as well
25:40 and it's fun and the kids get involved
25:42 and all sorts of ages are getting involved in refill.
25:46 And I think it's just an interesting,
25:48 different way to shop.
25:50 - Is it something that you're seeing more people
25:52 thinking about, is thinking of shopping sustainably
25:55 and being a bit more mindful about the planet?
25:58 - Yeah, I definitely think that more people
26:01 are thinking about it.
26:02 Of course, we've run the Rochester Eco Hub
26:05 and we have the monthly meetups
26:07 and more and more people are getting involved
26:09 and getting interested.
26:10 I think there's still lots of work to be done.
26:14 So actually making lovely products
26:16 and showing that you can be sustainable
26:19 but also have really lovely, nice things
26:21 and really nice gifts as well.
26:23 It's not all about not having anything.
26:25 It's just being more mindful in how you approach things.
26:29 But yeah, definitely I think there's much more
26:31 of a demand for it and people are becoming
26:32 increasingly aware.
26:34 - Oh, thank you both so much for joining us.
26:36 People can come along this weekend to the Hub.
26:38 We've run out of time for now
26:39 but so great to speak to you both.
26:41 So thank you so much and I'll be back
26:44 at the same time next week.
26:45 Thanks for watching.
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