Pakistan's Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar quoted a fake report from UK's The Telegraph in parliament, which was debunked by Pakistan's own media.
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00:00Fake-istan is at it again, peddling absolute lies, not even half-truths and absolute lies,
00:09just absolute lies, doctoring images, spreading fake news and it's being done at an industrial
00:15scale, it's being done by ministers in Pakistan government and that to the foreign minister
00:21of Pakistan and on the floor of the house, on the floor of Pakistan's national assembly,
00:27a minister has been caught lying, this is minister Ishak Dar quoting a fake report from a UK paper,
00:36the Telegraph, it's not even as if this news was ever printed in the Telegraph, this was some fakery
00:41and he peddled it in Pakistan's parliament, so bad is the situation in Pakistan today that
00:48Pakistan's own media was forced to call out the minister's lies and fact check him,
00:56we get you more in this report.
01:02After Pakistan's cowardly terror strike in Pehelgham on April 22nd, India hit back hard.
01:14Operation Sindhuur was launched on May 7, sending a powerful message, India will not tolerate terror.
01:20As the Indian armed forces struck deep, panic spread across Pakistan's establishment and in desperation came disinformation.
01:31Pakistan's Deputy Prime Minister Ishak Dar stood in the Senate and read out fake praise for the Pakistan Air Force,
01:38attributing it to the Daily Telegraph.
01:40Pakistan Air Force is undisputed king of the skies.
01:50Alhamdulillah.
01:50But the report was completely fabricated.
01:57From botched spelling to jumbled sentences, the dawn, Pakistan's own media called it out.
02:03No such article ever existed.
02:06The piece was full of mistakes with words such as performance instead of performance,
02:11or force instead of air force, and advancement instead of advancement.
02:16And while Pakistan claimed it had decimated Indian air bases including Adhampur,
02:25Prime Minister Narendra Modi landed right there in a C-130J Super Hercules.
02:31No craters, no destruction.
02:34Just make 29s and smiles.
02:36Even the S-400 system rumoured destroyed stood tall behind the Prime Minister.
02:44India did not just defend.
02:46It disproved Pakistan's lies.
02:48Satellite images now confirm no major damage at any Indian base.
03:11Pakistan's narrative is collapsing, lie by lie.
03:14BrahMos tourist facilities at Bias and Nagrota were also destroyed, which had fired missiles on Pakistan.
03:25On 8th of May, several Pakistani unmanned aerial systems, drones, combat vehicles attacked multiple IF bases.
03:35There was no damage on ground from these incursions and these mass raids, if I could call them, from the Pakistani side.
03:46In the war on terror and fake narratives, India hosts the skies and the facts.
03:54Bureau Report, India Today.
03:55A minister who lies on the floor of the house clearly has no credibility within or credibility overseas.
04:09Will be treated with the contempt such a minister deserves.
04:13But at least some in Pakistan are finally speaking the truth.
04:17Because you may lie to your people.
04:19You may make them dance on the streets of Lahore and Islamabad and Rawalpindi and even in the United Kingdom.
04:26But that's not the truth.
04:27Because Pakistan knows it's been roundly beaten.
04:31I mean, very clearly, it's been sorted out this time.
04:35It's not one airbase.
04:36It's not two airbases.
04:37It's not three airbases.
04:38But in the heart of Pakistan's Punjab, at Noor Khan, for example, I mean, this is where the Pakistani prime minister, the Pakistani army chief, the president, they go to that Noor Khan airbase or the Chaklala airbase to catch their flights.
04:53That was bombed.
04:54The heart of Noor Khan was bombed.
04:56The heart of Rafiki was bombed.
04:59Sargoda was bombed.
05:01And this was conceived, it was inconceivable, it was impossible.
05:06But all of this and more.
05:08And there were casualties.
05:09Casualties not just to the runway or the hangars, but to crucial military assets, to fighter jets and even more expensive, the advanced airborne early warning command and control system.
05:25We are not saying it, though we know it, hear it from a retired air marshal of the Pakistani Air Force.
05:33And that air marshal is shocked in the manner in which, the ease with which India's Brambo supersonic cruise missiles could pierce through Pakistan's air defense systems and strike at will.
05:47Hear him.
05:49Next morning, he came with surface-to-surface missiles.
05:52He came with us.
05:53He came with us.
05:55He came with us.
05:55He came with us.
05:56Army and Air Force are in our hands.
05:58Army and Army have a missile missile.
06:03And Air Force are in our hands.
06:04This morning Alma said that.
06:06Yes.
06:06Yes.
06:06Near-to-surface
06:06This morning we talked about.
06:08Because there are many many people's available.
06:11Of course.
06:12Don't we talk about.
06:13It comes with us.
06:14As far as the surface of BrahMos missile missiles,
06:17Surface-to-surface or Air to surface,
06:19It comes with us.
06:19It comes with us.
06:21So pilots who are the first to do that they are security.
06:25Yes.
06:26Then he came to the second and third and fourth and fourth and fourth.
06:32The one who was unfortunately the one who came directly to a hangar where he was a A-Vax.
06:38The damage was also the same.
06:42Look, there are seven soldiers in the jungle.
06:48There were six soldiers in the jungle.
06:52There were six officers and technicians in the jungle.
06:59The first of all, the soldiers in the jungle were killed in the jungle.
07:03They were killed in the jungle.
07:12And this, of course, is just a part of the picture.
07:16Joining me now on this India Today special broadcast is the former Director General of India's Defense Intelligence Agencies,
07:24Lieutenant General Tahini Dhillon.
07:26Also joining me is Dr. Tara Kartha.
07:29She's a very well-respected terrorism and security expert and analyst.
07:32And General Dhillon, I want to understand from you, sir,
07:37Pakistan speaking half-truths may be understandable.
07:40But absolute lies that Pakistan Air Force is the undisputed king of the skies.
07:46A fake daily telegraph.
07:48Their foreign minister reads this on the floor of the House.
07:52What do you make of the fakery in Pakistan?
07:55Good evening, Gaurav, and good evening to the fellow panelists and your viewers.
08:01Gaurav, this is nothing new.
08:03In 2020, the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan, had posted videos or pictures about UP violence, which were fake.
08:11And later on, he had to remove them.
08:13He had to delete them.
08:14So, it starts right at the top and it is in their DNA.
08:18So, I'm not amazed at all.
08:20Yes, you know, I would have been amazed if the English was perfect.
08:23And that Telegraph news article which you referred to and the spelling mistakes were indicated.
08:32So, that makes it, yes, it was fake or it was morphed inside Pakistan only because they can't even write
08:38advancement state.
08:40Now, having said that,
08:42see, Pakistan has been selling the lies to the public ever since their inception.
08:47That they have won 1965, they have won 1971, they have won Kargil War and everything.
08:53See, they even claimed victory in 1971, which is there in their curriculum books.
09:00Imagine you have 93,000 surrenders and you are claiming victory.
09:05Those days, it could be done because there are no media, there are no social media, there are no videos.
09:10And whatever you are telling in Pakistan, that used to be taken as a gospel truth.
09:16Today, the truth of Indian strikes on the air base is on 10th morning.
09:21The air marshal which you quoted on your introductory remarks is one thing.
09:27This was on social media within 10 minutes of strikes by Pakistani people putting up and
09:32uploading the videos of the strikes and live videos and live coverage.
09:37So, they can't deny that.
09:39Whereas people on Indian side are also same.
09:41If they had hit as they are claiming, the Brahmo's storage sites and all the air bases,
09:49there would have been videos on the internet.
09:51There is not a single video of damage from Indian side.
09:55Now, that shows us that who is telling the truth and who is telling the lie.
10:00And our political hierarchy…
10:01That's a very interesting point.
10:02Yes.
10:02That's a very interesting point you make.
10:04Go on, sir.
10:05All those air bases, our political hierarchy and our air chief and other army chief are visiting all the places
10:12which they are claiming that they are hit during Ops and Do.
10:17So, absolutely.
10:17Prime Minister Narendra Modi was first of the block when he went to Adampur that Pakistan claimed it had targeted
10:23and has been claiming that forever in every war.
10:26But, Dr. Tara Kartha, you know, you study Pakistan very closely.
10:31I want to understand clearly, instead of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Pinocchio should be the father of Pakistan.
10:39The way they lie. Oh, my God. The way they lie.
10:43Some of them have a long nose. Jinnah did slightly.
10:45But, you know, from Asim Munir to Ishaagdar, their nose should be from here to here.
10:51Lairistan.
10:53Seriously? Okay, that's a bit more. Okay, you're quite right. In fact, what General Dillon said about their English,
11:00which is unsurprising, as someone said, J and K is not in the alphabet. So, that's not surprising.
11:06But, you know, the lies go back way beyond. Like he was saying, I remember, I think it was
11:13Naimarshal Ashkar Khan who said that, look, you guys started all the wars. And then he got hounded,
11:19literally hounded by everybody. You know, the India's water commissioner told Pakistan,
11:26India is not stealing water. He had to leave the country and go to Sweden.
11:31So, this is the level of people who try to tell the public the truth. Nonetheless, there are a bunch
11:38of people now who believe, who before this operation, I mean, mind that, before this operation,
11:45were saying this Pakistani army, they're all liars. So, what this action has done and what they aim to
11:52do is to unite everybody behind the two Asims, right? Asim Munir, Asim Malik, which I think they've done,
12:01you know, whatever they've managed, the foreign minister is in a class by himself. I mean,
12:07each time he says something, you know, he completely sort of makes even Pakistanis freak out.
12:13So, yeah, I mean, the dawn had to fact check him. And General Dhillon, you have a big smile on your
12:18face. But, you know, it's a very serious question I ask you. And, you know, I would have said Pinocchio
12:23should be the father of Pakistan. But the only thing is Pakistanis wouldn't be able to spell
12:27Pinocchio. You know, no Madrasa there would be able to teach them the spelling of Pinocchio. But,
12:35Dr. Tarakarta, it's a very serious point about, you know, level of education or the lack of it in
12:39Pakistan. But, General Dhillon, you know, Dr. Tarakarta is absolutely right. Why does this country
12:46have to resort to this level of fakery? I mean, they just fake it all the time.
12:50Dr. Tarakarta made initial comment. It's in the DNA. It's not a
12:58majburi. You know, you have a personality. So, this country has been lying all along.
13:08Imagine a country who did not claim the dead bodies of the soldiers back.
13:12Dr. Tarakarta, oh, absolutely. And, you know, we can go on and give examples of,
13:17you know, they don't value human lives. They don't value, you know, the gentlemanly behavior. They
13:23don't value the social way of living with each other. And imagine that the chief, the army chief,
13:30you know, he was trying to tell five days before or seven days before Pahlgaam that Hindu-Muslim thing
13:36and Kashmir Jagalavain. Now, which chief of the army staff in the world would speak like this
13:42about a religion? Yes. This is not the military ethos. I have, I have served with, I don't know how
13:48many militaries of the world. No military has this ethos. No military has this culture. No military has
13:54this way of life. I think they're made of some different... I was told, General, on a very serious
14:01note, Pakistan has two military academies. One is at Kakul, the other is at Bahawalpur. And the level
14:08of training at Bahawalpur of Jaish and Mohammed is even better because they produce better quality
14:15terrorists than the ones at PMA Kakul, isn't it, sir? Yeah, see, the point I'm making is absolutely
14:24correct. In, I was with a officer from Pakistan army in the U.S. on a course, Brigade Saab. And he would
14:32say, sir, we can lie at every moment. You know, he was a Punjabi speaking guy and he would, you know,
14:39walk up to me once in a while during tea break or something. And he would say, sir,
14:44when I was telling him, how do you lie every time? So it is in their way of life and nothing much can
14:56be done about it. I think the only thing which can be done has been done on the seventh night,
15:00early morning, sixth, seventh night and tenth morning. That is the only language I understand.
15:05and that is how India should deal with them. Absolutely. No Aman ki aasha, it has to be
15:10Brahmos ki bhaasha. That's the only language. We don't know from the lips of the lips. And that
15:15is the truth about Pakistan in Dr. Tarakartha. You've handled Pakistan so closely at the National
15:21Security Council. You would know their DNA because there's a very popular Hindi song,
15:25jhoot bole kawwa kaate kale kawwe se dariyo in Pakistan's case is jhoot bole brahmos mare. I mean,
15:32that's the way, you know, there's one brahmos ma'am. It's a very serious point. I'm trying to make
15:38seriously. Their army, that's the only language they understand, madam. No, the army lying through its teeth
15:47is, I mean, the general Dylan knows far more than I do. But to be honest, I would not put all Pakistanis
15:54in the same market. The army has been lying to its own people for years and they know it.
15:59They've known it for a long time. Navashari, for example, in a briefing once, he said, he said,
16:06how is it that every time I talk peace with India, there's trouble on the border? So there are sensible
16:12people in Pakistan. The trouble is to empower them. You know, yesterday, I think y'all had a show saying,
16:17how do you stop this, you know, nonsense is that every penny which goes into Pakistan should be
16:24tied to democracy. Because the idea is to get this rogue army out of the way with their lying and
16:31their cheating and including, for example, oh my God, the ISI goes and extorts money from businessmen.
16:40That is the level, you know, that case. Imagine. Oh, absolutely. And then he became the Bahawalpur
16:45core commander. Subsequently, Faiz Hamid, extortionist. And we had instances where the
16:54local ISI guys, you know, the money which was given for infiltration, they would pill for half of it.
16:59So this is how their army seems to operate. I mean, I'm not saying that there are no good army
17:06officers. I'm sure there are. I mean, just like within the Pakistan army somewhere, like the left
17:11and general who refused to fire on his own people, they went and imprisoned him. So the good guys are
17:16getting weeded out. And that is dangerous. Under this particular chief, it's at its worst.
17:23Because for Aasem Munir, anyway, his corruption within Pakistan is also very well documented. And
17:30Imran Khan wanted to sort him out on corruption. But then he sorted Imran Khan out on alleged corruption
17:36of Bushra Begum. But that's a story for another day. You know, but General Saab,
17:42for Pakistan army, they say, they took money from America and then handed over terrorists only when
17:52they wanted more money. They kept those terrorists, trained those terrorists, and then took money from
17:58America to hand them over. They kept Osama bin Laden, but then for good money, they had him killed.
18:06Now, instead of firing all the BrahMos, should we be paying them to bump off Hafiz
18:10Saeed and Masood Azhar and probably, you know, others?
18:16You know, Pakistan has mastered the art of, you know, keeping the terrorists and taking the money
18:21from the whole world to keep them under check. There's a theory called good man theory and a bad
18:27man theory. Pakistan, the whole world feels the present man is bad man, but the person who will come
18:34after him, if we don't look after him is going to be worst. So try and protect this bad man.
18:40And about India, because we are our biggest democracy, we have always very smooth transition
18:44of power. There's a present man is a good man. And the next man who will come after him is also
18:49going to be a good man. So don't worry. We don't need to pamper them. We don't need to feed them.
18:54We don't need to give the money. So Pakistan is in cashing on the bad man theory.
18:59It's like paying the mohalle ka gunda. It's like paying extortion money.
19:05So Pakistan is a gali ka gunda, but they've been shotted out. I think Brahmos is,
19:10I have looked at those images again and again and again and again to see the impact on Noor
19:18Khan and on Rafiki and on Sargoda and on Bolari. And literally, we've sat with some of the satellite
19:24image analysts to actually figure out whether a Saab, you know, advanced early warning system
19:30was taken down, whether they've lost F-16s, whether they've lost the JF-17s.
19:35Sir, stay with me. There's one journalist who's been extremely, extremely busy busting Pakistan's
19:42fakery and he's worked round the clock ever since, even before the 6th and non-stop till now.
19:49Bal Krishna, editor, who's been busting fake news, he joins me on this special broadcast.
19:56Bal, Bala, welcome. Bring us details, Bala, of Pakistan's fakery. You also have a smile on your face.
20:02It just goes on to show that we, you seem to have seen through all their absolute lies. There are not,
20:09there aren't even half-truths. I mean, I can't imagine how a foreign minister, what were their diplomats
20:14doing? They should be able to, I mean, some diplomats would know decent English, some diplomats would know
20:19Queen's English in Pakistan, unless they're all some, they're from Bahawalpur and Mureed.
20:25Balak, tell us all the fake news that you've busted.
20:28I'm smiling because of the punchline that you said,
20:31so that is, that is, that is really funny. I mean, in the fact-checking ecosystem, there is
20:37something called confirmation bias and we, so it is a very popular thing that we all want to believe
20:42what we want to see this happening. So, but it is, it is, it is expected that at least at a government
20:49level, at least at a deputy prime minister level, if they share something, they would be verified.
20:55It is absolutely shocking to see that how prime minister, deputy prime minister of Pakistan
21:00decided to share something because they wanted to believe actually that the Pakistan air force
21:05is best in the world. And if you just, we just saw that if you look at the daily telegraph newspaper,
21:11the doctor newspaper that it is, so it is full of, it is full of spelling mistake. This is full of
21:17absurd mistake. It is not difficult for a child to figure out this is fake. I mean, we, we debunked this
21:23four days ago. And I wish the deputy prime minister would have seen the fact checks that
21:28India today has been doing. They also mocked a report from CNN. We got an official quote from CNN
21:33saying this, that we never said this about this, about Pakistan Army. But still, it goes to say that
21:38how desperate they are to prove that, prove their might, because they are having difficult times
21:44answering their own people that why, when, when India was attacking all these places, what their air,
21:50air defense system was doing, what their missiles were doing. So they are really, they are resorting to
21:55anything that they, that they can and, and blatantly spreading fake news.
22:00You know, because Pakistanis themselves, uh, general, uh, Dylan should be so embarrassed,
22:07so embarrassed that they are saying, Oh, wonderful. We are the best air force in the world. And the
22:13British papers are saying it. Don't they realize from Skardu to Sindh and that too, in heart of
22:18Pakistan's Punjab, the best air force could not stop one missile going into Bahawalpur, second missile
22:25going into Murid Ke, third missile going into Shakargarh, fourth going into Sialkot. Then on the 10th of May,
22:31one after the other, it was almost as if the, there was nothing to stop Indian missiles hitting
22:38Noor Khan, Rafiqi, Jacob Abad, Sargodha, uh, you know, we've talked about Chaklala, uh, in, in, in the past,
22:45uh, uh, uh, and then come down to Bholari, Raheem Yar Khan. Bajha kya Pakistan mein? Ab Baluchistan aur
22:52khaybar pakhtoon khua, those are the only places. I mean, the bases in Pakistan's Punjab province,
22:58it's a huge slap. I mean, the Narendra Modi government, if I may, the armed forces, if I may,
23:04they have given Pakistan the tightest slap, Pakistan armed forces across their face, sir.
23:09Gaurav, yes. All the YouTubers of Pakistan, their videos are on internet. They are all saying what
23:17exactly we are discussing for last few minutes, but at a more serious level and at a strategic level,
23:23the whole world was watching this commission or a conflict, whatever name we give it,
23:28wherein Chinese and Turkish weapon systems were up against Russian, Indian homemade weapon systems,
23:36and Indian joint venture made weapon systems in real life battle. So the people who understand
23:44weapon systems and the weapon industry, they were seeing the results on ground in live combat.
23:50And Russian system, joint venture with India and Russia and Indian homemade system, including the
23:55legacy systems of 30 years ago, how we enmeshed them and made it so solid a strength that none of
24:03their projectiles, maybe missiles, maybe drones could hit the intended civilian or military target.
24:09The civilian casualties we had in Jammu and Kashmir were from POJK, which artificial and few drones in
24:17the Jammu area. Whereas we could hit at will. I'm told for 23 minutes their air defense was totally
24:24grounded and their air force was grounded on the 10th morning. And this happening on the third day of the
24:30war between two nuclear states, I think Pakistan has got a lot to answer to themselves.
24:36And the crashing down of the shares of the Chinese weapon manufacturing industry
24:44on day 13th is another example. The world knows the truth. The Pakistan want to know it or not is
24:50their problem. But in this combat, in this conflict, Indian defense was impregnable,
24:56air defense, and Indians could go and, you know, penetrate through Pakistani air defense at will.
25:02So it was a Chinese-Turkish weapons versus Russian joint venture Indian weapons, including legacy
25:08weapons. And the whole world knows who's the winner.
25:10Actually, both China and Turkey should sue Pakistan. You know, Dr. Tara Kartha, the last 30 seconds I have on
25:18this part of the show, China and Turkey should sue Pakistan for bringing Chinese and Turkish weapons
25:25to such disrepute, destroying their market. I mean, I was speaking to some American analysts and
25:31that information, that report is coming up. Sir, and you know, Jill Dillon, you must watch
25:37India first at 8pm tonight. We are listing out all the made in India weapons and the joint ventures
25:43that were used in this operation that beat Pakistan to pulp. And it's amazing what's happened. It's the
25:50most spectacular victory in the war on terror that India has inflicted. But Dr. Tara Kartha,
25:57both Turkey and China, instead of, I'm told that Turkish firm is suing India. They should be suing
26:02Pakistan, Dr. Tara Kartha. I would imagine the Chinese are pretty annoyed as well. I mean,
26:07what happened to the whole air defense, the integrated edges, which we heard about so much,
26:12it just collapsed. I can imagine the, you know, that must have been those guys. The
26:17president himself must have gone ballistic. So that's one. I mean, the Turkish guys,
26:22of course, are in a different entity. You know, we had a contract with Turkey to build ships about
26:28two years ago. I think it was, which we ended in 24. It's a good thing we did. I mean,
26:33I'm so glad we did. But then this is, this is how their systems work. But at this same time,
26:39Gaurav, I think we also need to now push ahead. We need to push ahead. Full force this message has to
26:47go across. We cannot sit on our laurels. We need to know this is a walk and the next one could be worse.
26:53So we need to do absolutely. Yeah. So I'll get you both back. I'm also being told that,
27:01you know, calling Pinocchio Pakistan's father of Pakistan is, is not appropriate. We should not
27:08insult Pinocchio. And Dr. Tara Kartha, Dr. Tara Kartha and Tiny Dylan for joining me here on India today.
27:16Many thanks. I want to go to that big story that's coming up. Turkey's Celebi.
27:26They're saying it's some vague clearance pullback amidst the India-Pakistan conflict. Turkey-based
27:33company Celebi, which provides airport ground handling in India, has launched a legal challenge
27:38to New Delhi's decision to overturn its security clearance. Now, that company's argued,
27:43it's vague national security concern that was cited without reasoning. Now, amidst growing
27:51national anger in India about Turkey's stated stance on support to Pakistan state-sponsored radical
27:59Islamist terror against India, and especially the stated stance during the India-Pakistan conflict,
28:05the Indian government on Thursday revoked Celebi's security clearance in the interest of national
28:10security. Celebi Airport Services has asked the Delhi High Court to set aside the decision, arguing it
28:16would impact 3,791 jobs and investor confidence and was issued without any warning to the company. The
28:24company said, in the filing mere rhetoric of national security, without elaborating upon what it means,
28:30it's said that how is it a threat to national security? It's unsustainable in law. If this
28:37is the only argument it has, it's on a very weak wicket. You know, just 3,700 jobs, they'll be absorbed
28:44elsewhere. But a country that's openly hostile to India, clearly decisions have to be taken even if
28:50they don't have, if everything is not said in words. Remember, actions always speak louder than words.