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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 1

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00:00We can clear the air and get even closer.
00:03If you poke the bear, the claws are coming out.
00:05Oh, shit. I just woke up a monster.
00:12There was more to this story?
00:14They dig at some backlash from the church.
00:16And reputations in their community.
00:18Radically changing the image of Mormon culture.
00:21Videos continuously going viral.
00:23And it's a double-edged sword.
00:30Let this be a lesson for all of you.
00:33They all have boob jobs.
00:35I think I'm going to be a saint and a sinner.
00:37If she comes for me, I will absolutely dominate her.
00:40I'm lying.
00:41The truth always comes around.
00:42It does, unfortunately.
00:43You have no idea what's coming for you.
00:45You're keeping receipts.
00:47Who knows when you're going to unlock that vault and just sabotage someone.
00:50Just touch my wife.
00:53This is the real kind of war.
00:55Let's fucking move past this.
00:59We all are traumatized.
01:00But we don't go around hurting the people we love.
01:03Do I do petty shit? Yes.
01:05Got to go head on in the storm.
01:07You want to call me a shitty wife?
01:09Let's talk about you.
01:10Someone's going to win and someone's going to lose.
01:12And it's going to destroy the group as a whole.
01:13You should literally be in jail.
01:15I will create a whole other fucking montage.
01:17Not on my watch, bitch.
01:19What is even happening?
01:28Oh, yeah.
01:59Ready?
02:00Okay.
02:01What has life been like?
02:02What's changed?
02:03What's the same?
02:04Tell us everything.
02:07Well, this will be freeing.
02:29The sex goddess is here.
02:31Wait, one boob might be bigger.
02:34Is that better?
02:39What's the hot goss over here?
02:41That's the 411.
02:42What's the 411?
02:43What's everybody been talking about?
02:46We are at the Gracie Lu Cowboy Pillows event.
02:48And I'm so excited to be here with all the girls and just enjoy a fun influencer event.
02:52Western themes.
02:54So dressing up for this event is the perfect way to kick off one of my favorite holidays,
02:58which is Halloween.
02:59Sometimes there's a misconception.
03:01Do Mormons celebrate Halloween?
03:02Yes, we do.
03:03And Mom Talk loves it as well.
03:05Is it a bad bowl or a good bowl?
03:07I have to pee.
03:08Maybe I should pee first.
03:09We've got mom bladders.
03:15That's harder than I thought.
03:16Wait, how do I hold on?
03:18Okay, let's be sexy.
03:20Life has been a blur.
03:25The last few months, Mom Talk has grown even bigger.
03:28It's become a nationwide trend.
03:30We're seeing women doing their Mom Talk groups all across the U.S., which is so crazy.
03:35I love what Mom Talk is doing right now.
03:37The way that we are trying to modernize people in the church.
03:40We've helped move the needle in the way that Mom Talk intended to when it comes to the patriarchy.
03:47The brand deals have been way up.
03:49My husband, his entire yearly salary is how much I make on one brand deal.
03:53So, Jace is in his full stay-at-home dad era right now, and he's loving it.
03:58I think the perceptions of Mormons has definitely changed worldwide.
04:02We're just living our life, making videos and smashing men's hearts.
04:06Just kidding.
04:09Yes, we did get both good and bad responses.
04:12With the church, we'll say we ruffled our feathers.
04:15I do think the church had an issue with Mom Talk trying to break the patriarchy.
04:20But, YOLO. It's fine.
04:22We weren't bashing the church or talking about it negatively.
04:25We were just shining a light on the things that do need to change.
04:28Mom Talk is going to continue to push the church and the people and the culture to modernize towards today.
04:35And if anyone tries to shit on Mom Talk, they will be ready to fight.
04:39It's a very on-brand for us.
04:41Woo!
04:43Hey, Jen!
04:45Are you kidding me?
04:46Wow!
04:47Woo!
04:48I got you!
04:49There's no sexy way to get off that.
04:51No, it's not going to happen.
04:52But I make it so hard.
04:54Wait, is that Whitney?
04:55Yes, it is.
04:56Yeah.
05:08Hey!
05:09Oh my gosh, this is so cute.
05:11Oh, thank you.
05:14New Whitney, new hair.
05:15That's how it goes.
05:16Hey!
05:17Uh-oh.
05:18Hey, guys.
05:19How are you?
05:20I'm good.
05:21How are you?
05:22Good.
05:23Yeah, how's the pregnancy?
05:24Oh, God, I'm like...
05:25Two weeks.
05:26Please get this out of me.
05:27Yeah.
05:28Whitney, Whitney, Whitney.
05:30Whitney was deemed kind of the villain.
05:32And she earned every bit of that title.
05:35She didn't attend Taylor's baby shower
05:37or Macy's baby mama event.
05:40She has unfollowed us, blocked us, ignored us.
05:44She has upset every single person in the group.
05:47Whitney is no longer a part of MomTalk,
05:49and rightfully so.
05:50And she's the one that removed herself from the group.
05:57Whitney is definitely on the outs.
05:58This is the circle.
05:59She's out here.
06:01So, how does it feel to be pinned as the villain?
06:05Ooh.
06:06Okay.
06:07I think everyone's pissed
06:08because I haven't apologized for leaving MomTalk,
06:11and especially with me saying, like,
06:13good luck without me, like...
06:15oopsies.
06:16Do you have any regrets?
06:19No.
06:20I think if there was,
06:21then I would probably say it to them.
06:23No one owes Whitney anything
06:24when her behavior is the way that it is.
06:26Exactly.
06:27She's a little bit of a narcissist.
06:28I have no interest in having a friend like that.
06:30I don't want drama.
06:31I don't want bad feelings.
06:32I just don't want to be her friend.
06:33There you go. Get in front.
06:34There you go.
06:35Oh.
06:36Even though I'm not in MomTalk,
06:37this is my livelihood.
06:38I have to come to these things.
06:39I think everybody has sticks up their butts.
06:42Has the fame already gone to our heads?
06:45Hi.
06:46Yee-haw, baby.
06:47Yee-haw, babes.
06:48Come on in.
06:49Why did I come out?
06:50You?
06:51Why did I straight up be out?
06:54I sat on the magazine.
06:56Yeah, smart.
06:57Anyone have some tobacco?
06:59I got some chew.
07:01I got some spud.
07:02I get really into the role play.
07:04I know you do.
07:05Oh, Lord.
07:06Is that Miranda?
07:07What the hell?
07:09Oh, shit.
07:10What?
07:11It can't be.
07:12Shut up.
07:13Miranda really came?
07:14Holy shit.
07:15Wait, she looks hot.
07:16She looks hot.
07:18Ladies.
07:19Hello.
07:21Miranda is Taylor's ex-best friend,
07:24and she's one of the original MomTalkers
07:26from when Taylor started the group.
07:28Miranda and her ex-husband, Chase,
07:30were the couple heavily involved in the swinging
07:32with Taylor and her ex-husband.
07:34Taylor started talking about it.
07:35No one was innocent.
07:36Everyone has hooked up with, like,
07:38everyone in the situation.
07:39It came out.
07:40It became public,
07:41and it was explosive on the internet.
07:43Miranda and her ex-husband panicked.
07:45She left MomTalk, and they denied everything,
07:47which made Taylor look worse.
07:48Last I heard, Miranda got divorced,
07:50and she's back in town.
07:51I think it's pretty ballsy of her to show up
07:53to this influencer event.
07:55Hi, MomTalk.
07:57Did you miss me?
08:00Can I sit with you guys?
08:02My name is Miranda McWhorter,
08:03and you might recognize me from being
08:06one of the MomTalk OGs.
08:08Just kidding.
08:09Obviously, people know me from
08:11the whole swinging scandal.
08:12Taylor's a very vocal person,
08:14and everybody has heard her side of the scandal,
08:17but I'm finally here to tell mine.
08:19What are you... What's going on?
08:21Yeah, I know.
08:22Last time, I feel like
08:24anything MomTalk-related, you're like,
08:25I don't know if I'd ever...
08:27I know, I'm eating my words now.
08:29I'm on the show.
08:30What's going on right now?
08:31Wait, I need to hear everything.
08:32You're divorced.
08:33Did you see it coming?
08:35Yeah.
08:36I mean, I think when I made the decision,
08:38I was sure about it,
08:39and it just was not going to work
08:41as a relationship.
08:42I had tried for so long,
08:44and I realized that it was...
08:45You know, I think our kids would be better off
08:47if we did end up cutting ties
08:49when we did.
08:50So did you initiate it?
08:51I did.
08:52I have a question.
08:53So if you're here talking to everyone,
08:55are you trying to join MomTalk again?
08:57What's the contradiction?
08:58I feel like that's the only explanation.
09:00I don't see another explanation.
09:01Yes.
09:02I think it all comes back to the fact
09:04that I'm not married anymore.
09:06For our marriage,
09:07I just didn't think it was the best thing.
09:08You're here,
09:09so we're just going to go all out.
09:10Was there a part of you
09:11that was trying to protect
09:13the lie around the swinging thing?
09:15Were you involved in the swinging?
09:20Well, the thing is,
09:21the height of what I was ever involved in
09:23was, like, playing spin the bottle
09:25and, like, kissing other people.
09:27And so it was very jarring for me,
09:30for Taylor to come out and say, like,
09:32everyone was hooking up with everyone
09:33because that was simply not the case at all.
09:36We've all heard the exact opposite.
09:37I'm so confused.
09:38No one had sex ever, period.
09:40I kind of want to hear from, like,
09:41Taylor and you to hear the story
09:43because we're hearing
09:44two completely different things.
09:45I will go to my grave.
09:47What?
09:48My mind's just been blown.
09:50That's crazy.
09:52It's pretty wild that after so much time,
09:54Miranda has been completely silent
09:56about the swinger scandal,
09:58and she's finally coming out
10:00and talking about it
10:01and admitting to things.
10:03But it is a little strange to me
10:04because her story
10:06and Taylor's version of the story
10:08are not completely lining up,
10:09so I'm a little confused
10:11as to who's telling the truth.
10:13You've never touched a wiener.
10:15Never touched a wiener. Not one time.
10:16A wiener.
10:17Even with your mouth.
10:18Yeah.
10:19Your mouth never came in contact
10:20with one.
10:21Oh, my God.
10:22Really?
10:23So who's telling the truth?
10:24I have zero reason to believe
10:25that Taylor's lying
10:26because she's been nothing
10:27but honest to me
10:29and to the world
10:30about her details
10:31and the swinging
10:32in her personal life,
10:33and this has been something
10:34that has eaten Taylor up for years.
10:36I know how hard it is for Taylor,
10:38and I want to protect her,
10:39and I don't want the lies
10:41from Miranda to create
10:42the cracks in the group.
10:46Oh, speak of the devil.
10:48I'm trying to find my girls.
10:50Oh, my goodness.
10:51Sorry, guys. I am late.
10:52Is this the new mom talk?
10:53You guys are so good.
10:55You're welcome.
10:56He did it at first.
10:58I do feel very shocked
11:01when I see Miranda.
11:03Pretty uncomfortable, I will say,
11:05because I haven't really talked
11:07to her since everything,
11:09so...
11:11And I don't know why she's here,
11:13I guess.
11:14I'm very confused.
11:15Tay, do you want to go here?
11:16You can go here
11:17and we'll move all this.
11:18Do you want me to start
11:19by Miranda?
11:20She was one of the girls
11:22participating in the swinging scandal.
11:24Her husband was the one
11:25that came and told me
11:26that he had feelings for me.
11:27That's where the story
11:28gets confusing,
11:29because I stole
11:30my best friend's husband,
11:31but that's never been the case.
11:32Miranda was my best friend.
11:33I would have never done
11:34that to her ever.
11:35I won't bite you
11:36and I won't kiss you,
11:37I promise.
11:38Not this time.
11:40Oh, wait.
11:41We didn't clarify that,
11:42so you guys kissed.
11:43What?
11:44Like, you're asking if we have?
11:47How are you feeling?
11:48Horrible.
11:49How are you guys?
11:50I'm sorry.
11:53It's been a lot, guys.
11:55Miranda and I have yet
11:56to conversate
11:57about our whole situation,
11:58but I did not want to hash
11:59any of this out today
12:00because I'm exhausted
12:02of what I'm dealing with
12:03in my own relationship
12:04with Dakota.
12:05So Dakota was involved
12:07with the girl
12:08during our early dating.
12:10He swore that nothing
12:12really had happened
12:13besides kissing,
12:14and then he finally
12:15came forward
12:16after all this time
12:17saying that there was
12:18more to that story.
12:19I was lied to
12:20for two years.
12:23I have been
12:24in pure sadness,
12:26but I feel like the ego
12:27is kind of kicking in
12:28being like,
12:29I'm actually nobody's
12:30fucking second choice,
12:32so if that's what you wanted,
12:33I'm...
12:34I feel like old Taylor
12:35is coming back.
12:36Do you not see it?
12:37I feel like so betrayed.
12:38I'm in denial
12:39that this is even real
12:40right now.
12:41And I don't know
12:42if I even want to move
12:44forward.
12:45People have been
12:46doing you dirty
12:47for too long.
12:49Yeah.
13:08How are you feeling
13:09about everything
13:10with you and Seth?
13:11As for my relationship
13:13with Zach,
13:14it's been a few months
13:15of straight hell
13:17since Vegas.
13:18You say you're not
13:19going to be married
13:20to someone who doesn't
13:21have values and morals.
13:22He treats you like shit.
13:23That's gross.
13:24I really don't...
13:25I don't really care.
13:27Currently,
13:28we are separated.
13:32I never thought
13:33I would get to this point.
13:35I've decided to
13:37come back to Utah
13:38and be back
13:40with Mom Talk.
13:44Today,
13:45Zach asked
13:46if he could come down
13:47to Utah
13:48to talk to me.
13:50I was pretty firm
13:51about us being separated
13:53so I can figure out
13:54what I need
13:55and just what's best
13:56for our relationship.
13:57It's hard
13:58because a couple months ago,
14:00Zach and I
14:01were committed
14:02to going to New York
14:03for med school.
14:04I honestly think
14:05you're going to love New York.
14:06Do you think
14:07I'll be missing
14:08Mom Talk?
14:09I honestly think
14:10you're going to love
14:11Mom Talk.
14:12I honestly don't.
14:13But then,
14:14Zach got accepted
14:15to Arizona.
14:16We ended up moving
14:17to Arizona.
14:18Things for Zach and I
14:19continue to be
14:20pretty rocky.
14:21For me to
14:22want to fight
14:23for a marriage,
14:24I need to feel like
14:25he's putting my feelings
14:26before his.
14:30Hi.
14:31Hi, baby.
14:32Hi.
14:37Can I come in?
14:38Yeah, sure.
14:39Where do you want me
14:40to put this?
14:41You just put it right there?
14:42Yeah.
14:45This place looks nice.
14:46Isn't it cute?
14:47Yeah.
14:49If you don't mind,
14:50I'd like it to be
14:51my new spot, too.
14:58The last couple months
14:59have been hard, obviously.
15:00And...
15:01Been really hard.
15:05I know I messed up.
15:07Like, the way I treated you.
15:08Like,
15:09no matter what you had done,
15:10those things should have
15:11never been said.
15:12And I have to live with that
15:13the rest of my life.
15:15I want to prove to you
15:17that I love you
15:18and that, like,
15:19I am a good husband.
15:20I am a good father.
15:21I want to fight for a marriage,
15:22and that's why I'm here.
15:24After Vegas,
15:25it felt like
15:26the whole world
15:27was against us
15:29and wanted us
15:30to get a divorce.
15:32I had so many regrets
15:33about how I had acted
15:35and the way things
15:36had gone down.
15:37I definitely feel like
15:38there's still
15:39a lot of work to do
15:41as far as
15:42changing and becoming
15:43who I want to be.
15:45I'm in therapy.
15:46I'm working on, like,
15:47as long as you want to be here
15:48and you love her,
15:49you need to let her live her life
15:50the way she wants
15:51or she's never gonna be happy.
15:52So I'm here
15:53letting you live your life
15:54the way you want
15:55so you can be happy.
15:58For so long,
15:59I think he truly believed that,
16:01like, his feelings
16:02were more important.
16:03Within the Mormon church,
16:04it's very expected
16:06for the women
16:07to be submissive
16:08to their husbands.
16:09But for me,
16:10whether this helps me
16:12become a stronger member
16:13of the church
16:14or maybe turn away
16:17from the church,
16:18I think in order
16:19for this marriage to work,
16:20we have to be equals.
16:22I want to fight
16:23for a marriage,
16:24but I feel like
16:26I've been blaming myself
16:27for so many years
16:29thinking that
16:31I was the issue
16:32or I was too sensitive.
16:33I feel like this is, like,
16:34the first time in my life
16:35that I need to put my foot down.
16:36Like, I want
16:37my partner
16:39to know me so well
16:42that they'll think of me
16:44and my feelings
16:45before anything else.
16:47And anyone who doesn't
16:49respect that,
16:50I...
16:52like...
16:54they're not gonna be
16:55a part of my life.
16:56Even if I were to have
16:58gone to Chippendales,
17:00danced with those men,
17:03I'm still
17:05the mother of your children.
17:06I'm still your wife.
17:09Do you know what I'm saying?
17:11Yeah.
17:12It's time that
17:14I put my foot down.
17:16I'm choosing mom talk.
17:19Yeah.
17:20And if that means
17:21I want to go to Chippendales,
17:22I can go to Chippendales.
17:23And if you don't like that,
17:24then, like...
17:26I think my actions
17:27speak a lot more than my words.
17:29And, like, I'm...
17:31I'm here.
17:32Like, you know,
17:33I reached out to my dean
17:35and put in my application
17:36to leave medical school.
17:38And my feelings
17:40towards mom talk
17:41haven't honestly
17:42completely changed.
17:44But I feel like
17:45a lot of our marriage,
17:46I've made it about me
17:47and the things I want to do,
17:48and you've kind of
17:49just supported me in that.
17:51I don't know what
17:52I'm gonna do with my life,
17:53to be honest.
17:54Yeah.
17:55But I'm here to support you
17:57and support your career.
18:00You're willing
18:01to give me a chance.
18:02Like, that's all I'm asking for
18:04to show you.
18:05I'm asking if I can...
18:07if I can stay.
18:09Um...
18:18The thing that I'm worried about is...
18:21Does a part of you
18:22still feel like you
18:23want to go back
18:24to do medical school?
18:26Yeah, I mean,
18:27I do have a year leave of absence,
18:28so it is possible.
18:30But for now,
18:31I'm just focusing on us.
18:33Like, I need someone right now.
18:36Well, I'm here.
18:38I know,
18:39but you've been a dick to me.
18:42Yeah.
18:43Yeah, I know, sweetie.
18:46I know why you're mad at me.
18:48And not only that,
18:49but your friends,
18:50the MomTalk girls.
18:51To be honest,
18:52it is a little bit hard
18:53to be a part of MomTalk right now
18:56because of all of that.
18:58Do you think you'd want
18:59to have a conversation
19:02with some of the girls?
19:05I mean...
19:07hearing the things
19:08that they said about me,
19:09a lot of those things
19:10were all, like, blatant lies.
19:12But I reached out
19:13to every single one of the girls.
19:15Do you guys want to hear
19:16the voice memo?
19:17Wait, you have it?
19:18I have it.
19:19Hey, Jessie, this is Zach.
19:20Just wanted to send you guys
19:21a quick voice message.
19:22Obviously, I, you know,
19:23never plan on those texts
19:24being seen,
19:25but they were.
19:27And regardless,
19:28I shouldn't be...
19:29I was never planning
19:30on those texts being seen.
19:31He's apologizing
19:32because he got caught.
19:33Anyways, thank you so much.
19:34Hope you guys are doing well.
19:35This is, like,
19:36a comparing case
19:37of what he's saying, too.
19:38Like, it was like a script.
19:39And it's chat GPT.
19:40No, 100%.
19:42And did they respond?
19:44No, I...
19:45I...
19:46Because, I mean,
19:47I realized what I did was wrong.
19:48Obviously, those texts
19:49were never meant to be shared,
19:50but still, like,
19:51I shouldn't have been
19:52saying those things.
19:55For me to let you
19:57back into my life
19:58and for us to give this
20:00another shot,
20:01I think I'm gonna need
20:02a lot of time
20:03to just think about this.
20:05So I think that we should
20:06keep the Arizona home
20:08until changes are being made.
20:11Leaving med school
20:12isn't enough.
20:15So with that being said,
20:16if you are gonna live here,
20:18what changes
20:20are you going to make?
20:22Obviously,
20:23you can't change overnight.
20:25I think this is gonna be
20:26a long journey.
20:27I definitely have
20:28a lot of expectations
20:29for him this time around.
20:32And there's gonna be
20:33some boundaries
20:34and guidelines moving forward.
20:36I'm trusting you
20:37that you can
20:40show up for me.
20:42Yeah.
20:43I'm trusting you
20:44that you'll be on my side.
20:48Meaning you won't talk over me,
20:49but meaning you'll hear me out.
20:51Meaning you'll understand
20:52and validate me.
20:53Yeah.
20:54Meaning that
20:55you will generally think of me
20:56and my feelings
20:57before your own feelings,
20:58which I know is going to be
20:59very, very hard
21:00with your personality.
21:01But that's what I need.
21:03That's what I want.
21:04And every woman deserves that.
21:09I do believe
21:10Jen and I were meant
21:11to be together,
21:12and I felt that
21:13since the day I met her.
21:14And I will continue
21:15to fight for that
21:16as long as she
21:17also wants the same.
21:18I think a lot of people
21:19who are raised in the church
21:20are raised in a particular way,
21:22and they don't even really realize
21:23some of these patterns.
21:24I put a lot of pressure
21:25on myself and Jen
21:27to be a certain way.
21:28I'm not currently
21:30going to church,
21:31and I'm hoping moving forward
21:33that we can just be
21:34a little bit more authentic
21:35to ourselves.
21:36Can I have a hug?
21:37You can have a handshake.
21:39I'm just kidding.
21:40Okay.
21:43I love you.
21:44I love you.
21:45At least we're not going through
21:46what Dakota and Taylor
21:47are going through.
21:48I love you so much.
21:52Hi, I'm Taylor.
21:53When I was four years old,
21:54I met my dad for the first time.
21:55He said, what's up, kid?
21:56That was the only thing I got.
21:57And then I brought
21:58the gummy bears.
21:59You thought that you would
22:00get the best of me.
22:02You're wrong.
22:04The truth comes out eventually.
22:06I'm not sleeping with the enemy.
22:09So I'll forgive,
22:11and I'll forget.
22:13I better think,
22:15I better think.
22:16Hello.
22:17Hi.
22:18Hi.
22:19How are you?
22:20Good, how are you?
22:21You look so cute.
22:22Yeah, right.
22:23You do.
22:24We match the same vibe.
22:25Sweats.
22:26Cozy comfort.
22:27Yeah, I'm always in sweats,
22:28so that's how it is for me.
22:30How are you feeling?
22:32Not good.
22:34I'm like, obviously freaking out.
22:37Right after Ever was born,
22:39Dakota and I were living together
22:41and in bliss with our new baby,
22:43and I was even considering
22:45engagement, and then I learned
22:47that he was lying this entire time.
22:49If this is stating that I've
22:50cheated on you since I've dated you,
22:52not true.
22:54Dakota is a liar.
22:56Big shocker.
22:58So I talked to Jenna earlier this year.
23:00Hi, is this Jenna?
23:02I just have some questions
23:03about you and Dakota.
23:05And once I told Taylor about it,
23:07she wanted to kind of push back
23:08and hold off,
23:09especially until she had the baby.
23:11Today, I am meeting with Jenna.
23:14I'm ready to finally get
23:16the full story from both ends.
23:19My point here today
23:20is to get clarity on all of it.
23:22I have dates down to the T
23:24in my brain of what was said
23:25and what was done.
23:27So I know what he told me
23:28when he was at my house
23:30and everything, so.
23:32I've done a lot of shitty things.
23:34And maybe this was my karma.
23:35But I feel like I've had
23:36my karma already.
23:37So I'm like, why am I still
23:38getting karma?
23:40I don't think it's karma.
23:41I think it's just like,
23:42you're like in the space
23:43where it's time to move forward.
23:46Should we sit?
23:47Yeah.
23:48You just need to relax
23:49for a second.
23:50It's all hard stepping stone.
23:51I feel like really sick.
23:53I know.
23:54It's going to be hard,
23:55but it's like you need to know
23:56this to move forward
23:57in either direction.
23:58Because you already know
23:59what they're going to be about.
24:00No, I don't.
24:01Like, yeah, but I don't.
24:02This will be like the closure
24:04you need to close this chapter,
24:06whether it goes well or bad.
24:08It's like at least you know
24:09and it's not going to
24:10eat you alive anymore.
24:13Yeah, we're good.
24:15Life's great.
24:17If Jenna confirms
24:18what Dakota has told me,
24:19I do feel like we can move forward.
24:23But if he is still lying,
24:25I'm done.
24:26Don't be a bitch.
24:27Don't be a bitch.
24:28Don't be a bitch.
24:49Everything's going to be great.
24:56Don't worry.
25:08Hello.
25:09Come on in.
25:10Glad you made it.
25:11OK.
25:14You just sit over there.
25:20How's it going?
25:22Good.
25:23How are you?
25:24I'm OK.
25:25Yeah?
25:26Yeah.
25:29I can't even tell you
25:30how incredibly awkward this is.
25:32Like, gosh,
25:33I don't even know what to do.
25:35Like, do I turn a song on?
25:37Do we, you know,
25:38do I turn on the music?
25:39I don't know.
25:40I don't even know
25:41what I'm supposed to do.
25:42I don't even know
25:43what I'm supposed to do.
25:44I don't even know
25:45what I'm supposed to do.
25:46I don't even know
25:47what I'm supposed to do.
25:48Do I turn a song on?
25:49Do we, do we hold hands
25:50and sing?
25:51Like, what do we do?
25:52I don't even know.
25:53It's the most awkward thing
25:54in my entire life.
25:55It's, like, dead silent.
25:57It's, like, so uncomfortable.
25:58Yeah, I know.
25:59I hate it.
26:00Me too.
26:01But it's not you.
26:03It's the situation.
26:04Yeah.
26:05And you're just, unfortunately,
26:06the one that was
26:07in the situation.
26:08Yeah.
26:09Like, I feel like
26:10I, like, needed this
26:11for, like, so long.
26:12Yeah.
26:13And I feel like
26:14I have such, like,
26:15so many trust issues
26:16and, like, anxiety
26:17and all the things.
26:18Yeah.
26:19So, like, I just want you
26:20to feel good, you know?
26:21Yeah, well, thank you.
26:22I knew that there was
26:23something off,
26:24and I just wanted truth.
26:25Yeah, and I would
26:26feel the same.
26:27I'll show you all the texts
26:28and all the things.
26:32Yeah, that would
26:33actually be great.
26:34Okay.
26:35I'm shaking.
26:36I'm glad that Jenna
26:37is coming forward
26:38and showing her messages
26:39because it's not
26:40an easy thing to do.
26:41It's honestly
26:42incredibly awkward,
26:43and she basically said
26:44she would do it
26:45because she wouldn't want
26:46to know the truth.
26:53The silence.
26:54This is going to
26:55take a minute,
26:56so I want to say sorry.
26:57Yeah.
26:58You guys can keep talking.
27:00But, yeah.
27:04Did you hang out
27:05August 3rd?
27:06Do you remember?
27:07There was one time
27:08we went to the trampoline park,
27:09one time we went
27:10to the dinosaur museum,
27:11and then one time
27:12he came over
27:13and we watched a movie.
27:14What did you guys
27:15do that day?
27:16What did we say?
27:17It's saying,
27:18do you, like,
27:19want to come to me?
27:20You sent him your address.
27:22No, he said on my way.
27:23Okay.
27:24The next day.
27:25Yeah, he did.
27:26Yeah.
27:27Okay.
27:28Yeah, he said
27:29he never hung out
27:30with you that day.
27:31Oh, okay.
27:32Well...
27:33So he spent the night
27:34that night?
27:35I don't know exactly
27:36if it was that night.
27:37I do know that
27:38he spent the night
27:39more than once.
27:40Okay.
27:41Okay, what did you do
27:42the first night
27:43you spent the night?
27:44I really hope
27:45you don't hate me.
27:46I'm sorry if that went,
27:47if we went too far
27:48last night.
27:49We never had sex,
27:50for sure.
27:51I'm...
27:52It's okay,
27:53you can be straight up.
27:54So I feel like
27:55we did a little bit more
27:56than just making out.
27:57I feel like we just,
27:58like, probably did
27:59maybe hand stuff.
28:00I don't even think
28:01I would have done it
28:02to him, though,
28:03because being raised Mormon,
28:04I just was like,
28:05so I'm sinning?
28:06So he's saying,
28:07hey, do you want,
28:08do you want to come over?
28:09I'm just hanging with friends.
28:10So did you go to him
28:11that night?
28:12August 4th.
28:13But clearly,
28:14he invited you over.
28:15Yeah.
28:23He was, like,
28:24texting me all day this day.
28:25He came over to your house,
28:26and he's saying,
28:27thank you for letting me
28:28crash at your house,
28:29and he came over that night
28:30to my house
28:31and spent the night
28:32and fucked me.
28:33So yeah.
28:34He apologized for everything,
28:35like, that night.
28:37It's so awful.
28:38This is actually so awful.
28:39He definitely lied a ton.
28:43So he deleted a lot.
28:44Yeah.
28:46Now I get why he was
28:47so terrified of all of this.
28:50I found out a lot of things
28:51that were not being told
28:53the truth this entire time.
28:55He made it seem like
28:56she was the one
28:57that was always instigating
28:58and begging.
28:59No, it was him.
29:00He said he had just kissed her
29:02on the couch.
29:03Nope.
29:04He went on the couch.
29:05They hooked up on the couch,
29:06and then they went
29:07to the room they hooked up.
29:08He's trying to hang out
29:09with her in the day,
29:10respecting her,
29:11apologizing because
29:12he went too far with her,
29:13which he didn't freaking
29:14even have sex with her,
29:15but he's apologizing to her.
29:18Where the fuck is my apology
29:20for hurting me that day?
29:21I was the night girl
29:23that you came over to at night,
29:25and you were asking her
29:27on date dates
29:28and telling her cute things.
29:30I feel like a piece
29:31of fucking trash.
29:34In our faith,
29:35we were taught to wait
29:36for the person
29:38that we want to marry
29:39and end up with,
29:40and I feel like
29:41obviously if I hadn't been
29:43sleeping with him
29:44that early on,
29:45I don't think I would've
29:46been as hurt,
29:47and it's why it's a guideline,
29:49because it's gonna prevent
29:50these types of things
29:51from happening.
29:54I'm sorry,
29:55Jenna.
29:56No, I'm sorry for this.
29:58And it's like,
29:59not even you.
30:00That's what sucks.
30:01So you posted a TikTok
30:02with him in your bathroom,
30:03and I just had
30:04this feeling in my chest,
30:05like, don't trust him,
30:07kind of,
30:08and I said,
30:09are you dating Taylor?
30:10And he told me,
30:11no, it was just for clout,
30:12and like,
30:13she's just helping me
30:14build my social media.
30:16He said that,
30:17that he was just
30:18seeing Taylor for clout.
30:19Yeah.
30:31I hate him.
30:41I'm so sorry.
30:43I hate it.
30:45I hate it.
30:47I just feel horrible
30:48for Taylor.
30:49Like, it's hard
30:50because I don't even know
30:51how to comfort her.
30:52I just feel for her.
30:53Like, I feel the pain
30:54that she's feeling,
30:55and like,
30:56I've never seen her like this.
30:57I'm over here
30:58asking him to hang out,
30:59and he's lying
31:00and saying I can't,
31:01and he's, like,
31:02texting her to hang out
31:03and saying Jenna baked me.
31:11He made you sound desperate,
31:14and he's the one
31:15texting you.
31:16But at least you know now,
31:17like, your feelings were right.
31:18It's valid
31:19what you were feeling
31:20this whole time.
31:25It's okay.
31:29You're so strong.
31:30I loved him.
31:31I loved him.
31:32I know.
31:33I know.
31:40I love you.
31:50What?
31:52It's just a spider.
31:54You see, there's no one
31:55in the mountain.
31:56You look like us.
31:57She does.
31:58She actually has three.
31:59Well, she's about to have three.
32:00Hello.
32:01Hey.
32:02I definitely missed
32:03the friendships
32:04that came with Mom Talk.
32:05I'm really hoping
32:06to be able to reconnect
32:07with Whitney.
32:08I've known Whitney
32:09for a few years now,
32:10and I did see her
32:11at the Cowboy Pillows event,
32:13but it has been a while
32:14since we've really
32:15been around one another.
32:16You look amazing.
32:17You look amazing.
32:19After the Cowboy Pillows event,
32:21I'm not sure
32:22where I stand with everybody,
32:23so I'm starting with Whitney.
32:25I cannot believe
32:26it's as toasty as it is.
32:27I know.
32:28It was, like, so...
32:29Literally put all of us
32:30in hoodies.
32:31No, seriously.
32:32I'm, like,
32:33I'm not even wearing
32:34anything under this.
32:35My kids aren't either.
32:36I'm, like, I'm sweating.
32:37At least have a tank top.
32:38In my bra.
32:39There you go.
32:41I am one of the Mom Talk OGs.
32:43Taylor definitely,
32:44I feel like,
32:45ran the show.
32:46I think she's definitely
32:47the best at that,
32:48but Taylor had no plans
32:49of doing it by herself,
32:50so I came.
32:51I first invited Whitney,
32:52and then it just
32:53kind of snowballed.
32:54Isn't Coco the same age as Liam?
32:56She just turned 30.
32:57Oh, my gosh.
32:58That's insane,
32:59because I remember
33:00making videos
33:01when you were pregnant.
33:02Isn't that wild?
33:03I totally get why
33:04everyone's questioning
33:05and weird that Miranda's
33:06coming back into the fold
33:07Genuinely,
33:08I just feel like
33:09I can relate with her,
33:10because she obviously
33:11needed that time
33:12and is now having
33:13the courage or strength
33:14or whatever
33:15to come back.
33:16And also,
33:17can we please
33:18have a new villain?
33:19That person cannot be me.
33:21The cowboy pillows thing,
33:23like, they thought
33:24that you were
33:25still lying
33:26about this winging scandal.
33:27I don't think
33:28that's a conversation
33:29I would want to have
33:30with the other Mom.
33:31No, and honestly,
33:32it's none of our business,
33:33so who cares?
33:34Exactly.
33:35And that's the thing
33:36with Taylor,
33:37because it's like,
33:38even though she felt
33:39the need to do it,
33:40like, come out
33:41and do it online,
33:42I'm also like,
33:43I would rather not
33:44solve it all online,
33:45because there has been
33:46so much online.
33:47That's like the worst
33:48way to do it.
33:49Like, have we not
33:50learned our lesson yet?
33:51Yes.
33:52Holy hell.
33:53And I really just,
33:54honestly, overall,
33:55I just want it to be
33:56like a tourist.
33:57I know.
33:58I'm like, Taylor, girl,
33:59we've got to get you
34:00out of 2022.
34:01Yeah.
34:02Obviously, things were
34:03a little awkward
34:04at the event,
34:05just to kind of
34:06break the ice.
34:07I kind of want to
34:08really get more of a feel
34:10if the girls are open
34:12to the idea of me
34:13rejoining MomTalk or not.
34:14And I invited Whitney
34:16because I would love
34:18to have a friend's support.
34:20I'm curious.
34:21I'm curious to see
34:22where time takes us.
34:23Like, the fact
34:24that you're coming back,
34:25I wonder if someone
34:26will leave.
34:27I'll make my own
34:28MomTalk with my kids.
34:30Suspect thinks
34:31of getting pregnant
34:32at 16 as a flex.
34:41Wait, you guys.
34:42I'm so nervous.
34:43This is so fun.
34:44I'm so scared.
34:45I can't wait to see
34:46Mikaela pee her pants.
34:47Have you guys
34:48gone to haunted houses before?
34:50I love haunted houses.
34:51I love haunted houses.
34:52I love haunted houses.
34:53I love haunted houses.
34:54I love haunted houses.
34:55I love haunted houses.
34:56I love haunted houses.
34:57I love haunted houses.
34:58I love this shit. I do it every year.
35:00I've been to many haunted houses. I love being scared.
35:03I don't really know if the church has a strong stance against it,
35:05but I do know that anything satanic that can invite in bad spirits is frowned upon.
35:10So haunted houses are probably the more playful side of that.
35:13You're gonna be fine. It's gonna be just fine.
35:16My mom literally never took me to haunted houses ever.
35:20No!
35:22I hate haunted houses so much. They give me the worst vibes.
35:25You're gonna be fine. Just close your eyes.
35:27I don't know why I'm paying for these people to make my skin crawl,
35:30when Whitney does it for free.
35:32Oh, no!
35:34If you're scared, just go fast.
35:35You guys, I really don't like this.
35:37Oh, God. This is going in my mouth.
35:39I just got an STD.
35:41Oh, my God!
35:43Bye, Daddy.
35:44I feel like I'm missing a heart attack. I'm not kidding.
35:47You're...
35:53That's it. I'm going back to church.
35:57Oh, my God. That was nuts.
35:59Yay! You did it!
36:02We deserve a drink.
36:03Literally, I'm thirsty after that.
36:04Make it a double.
36:05Ooh!
36:07Like a key.
36:08Wait, that looks nice.
36:11Good job, guys. Cheers to surviving.
36:13MomTalk survived.
36:15Woo!
36:16We got two saints and two sinners.
36:18Who's gonna win?
36:19We're gonna pull you guys to the dark side.
36:21Speaking of, can we bring up happy hour?
36:24Yeah. Can we talk about that first?
36:25Why are we all invited?
36:27So, Miranda DM'd us on Instagram out of the blue,
36:30all of the MomTalk girlies,
36:31and she wants to have us over for a happy hour.
36:34I don't understand why she's trying so hard
36:36to reach out now when she had three years to do it
36:38and never cared to.
36:40I'm just kidding. I know why.
36:43Because she wants that bag, baby.
36:45I think she burnt her bridges,
36:46and now she sees how well MomTalk is doing,
36:48and now she's just coming on back in
36:51at a convenient time, isn't she?
36:52But we can't let people in who just want clout.
36:55Anyone that comes in at this point is clout-chasing.
36:57That just is what it is.
36:59Are you guys gonna go?
37:01I don't really want to.
37:02Mikayla's like, am I forced to go?
37:04I'm like, anyways.
37:06And you're like, I don't know why we're even
37:07entertaining any of this shit.
37:09For us, it's like, why would we want to have you back in,
37:12you know?
37:13I'm curious, like, what she'll say, though,
37:15because I feel like the other day at the event,
37:17we were all shocked by what she was saying.
37:19Oh, I was having none of it.
37:20I was like, um...
37:22I feel like you guys were kissing her ass.
37:24What?
37:25Well, OK, I don't know Miranda, so that's the thing,
37:26is I don't know how to act.
37:28It's not me kissing ass or me being like, oh, I really
37:32want to give you a chance.
37:33It's that I literally don't give a shit about anything
37:36other than the truth.
37:37I want to hear both sides, if I'm being honest.
37:39Also, I'm not ever going to be the type of person
37:41that is just going to be, like, a bitch to be a bitch.
37:45Like, I want to know.
37:45No, I get that.
37:46No one's being a bitch.
37:47But also, again, like Whitney, it's
37:49a consequence of your own actions.
37:50If you're going to lie and then throw
37:52Taylor under the bus for two years,
37:53then obviously, we're going to give it back.
37:55It was so weird.
37:56Is it a lie, though?
37:57I would love to sit down Taylor and Miranda together
38:00and just talk to both of them.
38:01You've never heard the story from both of them
38:03at the same time?
38:04Yeah.
38:05Which, who knows how that's going to go,
38:06because they're different stories.
38:07We're going to bring our popcorn,
38:08and we're just going to watch.
38:09What if they just start making out?
38:12I absolutely think that truth is the basis of trust.
38:15So they need to sit down and have this conversation
38:17and completely hash this out, especially if Miranda is going
38:19to be welcomed back into the fold.
38:21It's hard, because I feel like there's always her side,
38:24her side, and then the truth.
38:26So I kind of want to just get to the bottom of it,
38:28because if Taylor was lying, that's a big deal.
38:30Oh, oh, here we go.
38:37This is the calm before the storm.
38:40Oh, oh, here we go.
38:43I can feel it coming on.
38:47It's coming on.
38:48Oh, oh, oh.
38:54Come in.
38:55Hi.
38:56Why do you have the baby?
38:57Because Dakota had to go to work.
38:59Why didn't he call me?
39:00I don't know.
39:02Wait, he didn't even ask me, so that's really weird.
39:06Why not?
39:07After everything with Jenna, I call him,
39:10like, you lied, like, way more than I thought.
39:12There was way more messages deleted.
39:14And I was like, how did you do this?
39:15Like, how have you done this to me?
39:17I was kind of, like, looking for some sort of, like,
39:19explanation.
39:20At the end of the day, they're just not.
39:21Like, what is done is done.
39:22All he can say is, like, I'm sorry.
39:24At that point, I distanced myself.
39:25For me, it was just, I don't even want to hear it.
39:27I don't want to hear the excuses.
39:29How are you feeling, by the way?
39:30Oh, I'm better.
39:31Does my face look OK?
39:32Yeah.
39:33Yeah, your swelling's coming down.
39:34It's, like, going down.
39:35Yeah.
39:36How's it feeling?
39:37It's feeling OK.
39:37Do I look OK?
39:38Do I look funny?
39:39No, you just look really swollen, so you look different.
39:41But, like, I think once it goes down, it'll be fine.
39:43Yeah.
39:44But you look good, and I love your nose.
39:45Oh, I love it, too.
39:47So my mom wanted to get a nose job
39:50and then got her whole face done.
39:52When I saw her post-surgery, I was like, mom, what did you do?
39:58She looked like she got hit by a bus.
40:00Do I look your age?
40:02I wouldn't go that far.
40:04But she's healing well.
40:06And if she feels great, great.
40:09Hi, buddy.
40:10He's so cute.
40:11Oh, I'm sorry, baby.
40:12I think he's teething.
40:14How are you doing?
40:16I'm OK.
40:19I met up with Jenna.
40:21Yeah.
40:21It's just all the lying that really hurts.
40:23I feel like I fell in love with, like,
40:25someone that, like, doesn't exist.
40:28He's not the guy that I thought, like, at all.
40:32Now it's like, where do we go from here?
40:34Yeah.
40:35And that blanket.
40:37I know.
40:39I feel like I just can't, like, even try, like.
40:43I feel like the only thing I've ever asked of Dakota
40:46is to be honest.
40:47If he was to walk away, like, could you handle it?
40:51I'd choose walking away than those things I just found out.
40:54It's going to be awful.
40:55I agree.
40:56I don't want that.
40:57But I am not going to settle.
40:59I had a stepdad growing up.
41:00But I've always called him dad because he adopted me at two.
41:03And he's been the father throughout my life.
41:05So he's my dad.
41:06But I think my trust issues stem from my biological father
41:10leaving me at a young age.
41:12And I think that's why I'm so stuck.
41:14I met my dad once.
41:15My mom took me to a restaurant.
41:19I don't know.
41:19How old was I?
41:20Four, maybe.
41:21And he sees me.
41:22He's like, what's up, kid?
41:24And that's literally, like, all he says to me.
41:27And I remember, like, turning around and going back to my booth.
41:32I had never heard from my dad after that day.
41:35That has stuck with me more than I ever thought.
41:37When you feel like you're not loved by your dad,
41:40and that's the only thing that's stuck with you,
41:42by your dad, and that's the only words he has to say to you,
41:45I think, I don't know.
41:47I think there's just a wound there that's been there for a very long time
41:50that I've never addressed.
41:51And that's why I'm probably fixating on shit.
41:54I'm, like, really angry.
41:55Like, I'm, like, asking God.
41:56I'm like, why this too?
41:59Like, why this too?
42:01Like, I came into this relationship wanting it to be different
42:05and, like, loyal and good.
42:08I feel used and played and, like, trash.
42:11Like, why am I still on this couch crying, like, a year later?
42:14It's so annoying.
42:17I'm sorry.
42:20And I didn't even see it coming.
42:22It just sucked.
42:24No.
42:31I'm, like, angry.
42:35So what do you do?
42:37You keep trying.
42:39I really wish you would have thought of things before we got pregnant from him.
42:43Just like we said, you know, like, take your time because it hurts everybody.
42:48Like, not just you.
42:49You have three kids now, and you need to focus and put their lives in front of yours,
42:54you and Dakota.
42:55Like, this needs to be your priority.
42:58That's a foundation of our lives, is our family.
43:01If anything that the LDS Church has, like, that foundation of a family
43:05is something that I strongly believe in.
43:08Your generation, I think, is just like, okay, it's not working.
43:11See you later.
43:12And it's not like that.
43:14It's like...
43:15But it hasn't been working for two years.
43:16I know, I know, but still, Taylor, you need to try.
43:22I'm at a loss.
43:22I'm at a loss right now.
43:24I do love Dakota, but at the same time, I won't ever be able to trust you.
43:29And so now it's like, what do we have?
43:31So I am going to tell him, please don't come back home.
43:34You are immediately out of my house, because the only way we're ever going to work out
43:38is if you let me breathe for a minute.
43:59Okay, here we go.
44:01Hi.
44:02Hey.
44:02How are you guys?
44:03Good.
44:03How are you?
44:04Good.
44:05Welcome.
44:06So just fill all this out.
44:09What do you want me to put, married or separated?
44:13Depends on the day.
44:14We'll put married for today.
44:15For today, I can put...
44:16Yeah.
44:17Okay.
44:18Come on in.
44:19Zach and I definitely have a lot to work on, and ketamine therapy is supposed to reset
44:28a lot of past traumas or habits you've created.
44:33Ketamine is in the gray area when it comes to the church.
44:36Yeah, the church doesn't promote ketamine, but it's definitely not like a commandment.
44:40Zach trying ketamine is a pure example of how much he's willing to do to show up for a relationship.
44:51This reminds me of when I used to donate plasma.
44:56It's too late to back out now.
44:57Yep.
44:58A little bit.
44:59You've started.
45:02Never thought we'd get to this point where we'd be doing drugs together.
45:07Whoa, it hit me.
45:09It's hitting me right now.
45:11Whoa.
45:14You're insane.
45:20That was the hardest thing I've ever done.
45:22Will you come cuddle next to me once you're done?
45:25Yeah.
45:28Okay, Zach, I'm just going to take your IV up now.
45:34Were we out for a long time?
45:38I can't remember.
45:39I'm going to come over and give you a hug.
45:42Whoa.
45:43I just had some memories of when we first started dating.
45:53It truly felt like you were like my missing piece.
45:57When we were in Hawaii, when we were like running through like the coffee fields, I was thinking, I was like, I was like, I would literally give anything in the world to relive that day.
46:15I just want to be happy again.
46:23Yeah.
46:24Jen and I do love each other and we are a team and it's easy when you get back to the root of why you love each other, being able to relive some of those memories and think about some of those times I've had with Jen.
46:41And yeah, I just kind of realized just how special she is to me.
46:45A month before I met you, I remember kneeling down and praying out to God to help me find my person and he led me to you.
46:59I want to fight for you and I will always fight for you.
47:04I'm glad we could come do this.
47:13Yeah, we need this.
47:15So do you still plan on meeting up with Demi and Jesse?
47:22It's important for me that Zach makes peace with Jesse and Demi because I feel like tossed in the middle.
47:28I just want to squash everything and resolve a lot of the resentment.
47:33I think they're holding about Zach.
47:35It might be a good time, you know, after ketamine, might be in the right headspace to talk to him.
47:42Yeah, if they're really your best friends and they really care about you and I'm your husband, then it's important that we have that conversation.
48:03Taylor asked me to move out.
48:16I'm going to just move into a friend's house for like a little bit till I can figure out what to do.
48:22I don't know.
48:23It just sucks.
48:24When I saw Macy called Jenna, I don't know.
48:29I just didn't want more problems.
48:32So I actually decided to tell Taylor, like, yeah, we just made up.
48:37We like try humped.
48:39I thought sleep with her on the couch.
48:41The thing that I left out that was like a big one was just that we were in a room because I knew that one would yeah, that one would hurt her.
48:52I deleted some messages that if she was to like read those, I thought that would essentially make me lose her and my son.
48:59I did lie.
49:01I was always doing it selfishly to protect myself.
49:04I just wish I was honest to her, but it's too late.
49:07It's hard to because our son's so perfect.
49:37I feel a lot of guilt for him to just feeling like I let him down.
49:50I would do anything to have my family to be with Taylor.
49:56And yeah, unfortunately, I just I hurt her really bad and that I screwed up and that these are also consequences of
50:06my own actions.
50:08I'm just sick of him sick of hurting and I'm sick of like destroying things in my life due to myself.
50:20Taylor's the one person I've loved the most out of anybody.
50:25It's just worth fighting for.
50:28And that's what I'm going to do.
50:36Going into the happy hour at my house.
50:50There's definitely some nerves there going on.
50:52I know that there is a lot of speculation about my intentions of rejoining mom talk.
51:01One of the biggest is because I'm a single mom now and what I really am craving and wanting back is that support and that friendship.
51:10But I know that I'm going to kind of have to win these girls over and I get it.
51:16But I for sure feel like I'm walking into a lion's den.
51:19Hello.
51:22You got a little mocktail situation going on here.
51:26Well, that's a mom talk on it.
51:27Oh, what the hell?
51:30I'm eating the M. Mom talk's going to shit.
51:32So I'm going to eat it walking in to see Miranda's cheese spread that she's made for us and this cheese words that said mom talk.
51:43I can't the smell of desperation.
51:46Oh Lord.
51:47Can you tell me that don't?
51:57Like I'm just going to open it.
51:59I'm surprised to see Whitney here.
52:00I'm just going to have to play the game of just like stay away from Whitney.
52:05I do feel this sense of protectiveness around mom talk and I do feel like we need to protect it from people like Whitney and maybe Miranda who might have ulterior motives.
52:14I don't want one more problem bleeding into the health of a mom talk.
52:21Best friends here.
52:21Help yourself.
52:24I'm coming to this event today because I'm really loving building this relationship with Miranda.
52:28Not that I'm a swinger, but we have a lot of other things in common.
52:33We've got two kids.
52:35We're very level-headed people and I just want to support her because I'm sure they're about to have a really awkward conversation.
52:42Honestly, yes.
52:44When did you go into labor with your other two?
52:47Were you really?
52:47I didn't get induced for everyone.
52:49Yeah, I'm excited to because like I'm done.
52:52Oh, you're done with three and done.
52:53I would say three is the new six in Utah.
52:55Right?
52:56I don't know what to think about Miranda and Whitney's new relationship.
52:59I just feel like their whole friendship seems a little bit phony right now and I honestly think it just came from a place of they're both trauma bonding over, you know, ruining friendships with everyone and leaving mom talk.
53:13Is this her house?
53:15So cute.
53:17What did I miss?
53:18Nothing yet.
53:20The vibes are just off and I think it's because Michaela, Layla and Macy are against Miranda joining mom talk because they are team Taylor.
53:32But to be honest, I actually don't mind Miranda and she's a single mother.
53:37So as a woman, I don't see why we can't support her.
53:41We can also move.
53:42If you guys are done eating, we can move over to the couch.
53:44So you guys don't have to sit on the back of the couch.
53:47I'm gonna be honest.
53:48I'm shocked.
53:48You're still showing up to mom talk stuff after.
53:50Oh, really?
53:50Yes.
53:51After everything.
53:53Yeah.
53:54Also, we're going to Vegas.
53:55I don't know if I can trust you.
53:57Yeah, just like no one.
53:59Yeah.
54:00I mean, I literally reached out to everyone in the group message.
54:03You weren't in the group message.
54:04So you didn't see this.
54:05I basically said like, hey guys, like I'm struggling right now.
54:08Zach and I are struggling.
54:09I would appreciate it.
54:10If you didn't feed into any of the negativity online right now.
54:14Yeah, just while we're figuring stuff out.
54:16No one responded.
54:17Yeah.
54:18Gosh.
54:21Yeah, I would hate that.
54:27I decided to come to Miranda's happy hour because I am trying to
54:31take control of my life.
54:33One, separating from Dakota and two, I'm curious what she has to
54:37say to the group because if she decides to pull some lies out,
54:42I will be there to set it straight, but I will not be called a liar
54:44when I'm not a liar.
54:45I'm done with that.
54:47Macy.
54:54I don't want to be like rude, but I also like, like if you're the
54:57one inserting yourself into our group now, like I feel like we
55:01almost have to like say how we feel.
55:05There's memories.
55:08I'd love to get all that cleared up.
55:10Now's the time to point.
55:13So clearly there's a conversation to be had between Taylor and
55:17Miranda.
55:18No, I think everyone.
55:22Let's do it.
55:23Well, I guess my first question is what was the intention between
55:26inviting all of us over here?
55:28Like I'm genuinely curious because we haven't really talked to
55:30you in like two years.
55:31Right.
55:31I was kind of like, I just would like to have you guys over to
55:35kind of like clear the air.
55:36Have it be like an icebreaker.
55:37I really want to put everything behind us and move forward.
55:41I feel like it all just comes down to timing again.
55:43I just feel like convenient timing to come back in and be like,
55:46oh, I'm ready to be friends again.
55:47Everything feels kind of fake to me about it.
55:49Even the conversation we had just the other day at the event.
55:51It was like, oh, we only kissed and I was like, well, that's not
55:54what we heard at all either.
55:58It's frustrating when someone's lying through their teeth and
56:01because you're threatening my relationship with all of my girls
56:04and mom talk.
56:05I hope that the girls will have my back because it's going to
56:09get messy for sure.
56:19What I'm hearing is you deserve what you got.
56:21You're saying I was trapped when you guys are together.
56:24It's eating you alive.
56:25Don't touch me.
56:26Don't touch me.
56:29Within this group, there are so many secrets, so many lies.
56:32Do you ask her about the confession that Macy got?
56:35I slept with Demi's husband last year.
56:37This is not what we were a year ago.
56:41Seems like everybody's got skeletons in the closet.
56:43Who's lying to us?
56:44The only time I touched anyone was kissing.
56:47That is a lie.
56:48Is that true or false?
56:50That is 100% a blatant lie.
56:52The crap that I've been through for defending you and your
56:54actions.
56:55This is our marriage.
56:56This isn't a game.
56:57I gave consent for your husband to rub his little dick on me.
57:03Okay, well, this escalated quickly.
57:05Dear kind Heavenly Father, please strengthen our friends.
57:08I don't let myself feel sometimes.
57:11And it's still hard for me.
57:12I would be fighting to the death defending you.
57:15Does this mean I'm back in Montauk?
57:18I'm calling you out on your shit.
57:20Kate, let's fucking do it.
57:21The truth needs to be brought to light.
57:23It'll never be the same ever.
57:25I'm just not her biggest fan for what she's done to like you.
57:27Yeah, Demi's trying to get the whole group against me.
57:30I will make her look like such a fool.
57:32She was playing truth or dare with a ton of single men.
57:35Look at you fucking lie.
57:36Oh shit.
57:38World War 3 is breaking out.
57:42What the fuck you gonna do?
57:43What the fuck you gonna do?