Turkey has reaffirmed its support for Pakistan despite repercussions, including mass cancellations of bookings by Indian tourists. Turkish President Erdogan stated that Turkey will stand with Pakistan against India, regardless of economic losses.
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00:00Sharif's strength stunt falls flat.
00:22Copycat Shahbaz brutally trolled.
00:30Turkey's shameless support to Pakistan.
00:45India betrayed by Turkey.
00:54Indian tourists boycott Istanbul.
01:00Good evening and welcome to Five Live, I'm Pooja Shalhi, thank you for tuning in.
01:04It's a special telecast.
01:05I'm going to focus on Pakistan but also who is supporting Pakistan.
01:11Betrayed despite the kindness that India offered to Turkey.
01:14More and more, first the headlines.
01:20External Affairs Minister S.J. Shankar hails Operation Sindoor says Pakistan sought ceasefire
01:24after the 10th May strikes, reiterates PM's message on terror talks cannot go together.
01:30Adds only discussion that will happen on Kashmir will be of POJK.
01:38Raksha Mantri Rajnath Singh is in Kashmir to appreciate the braves of Operation Sindoor
01:42in Srinagar, also warns on Pakistan's nukes, urges global nuke watchdog to act against
01:48Pakistan.
02:02India's terror hunt up close, the final assault on the Pulwama terror hideout all on camera.
02:08Six out of 14 terrorists in the latest hit list of armed forces have been neutralized.
02:13They were given an option and a chance to surrender, they refused and that's when forces
02:18went for the kill.
02:23Former Pentagon official debunks Trump's mediation claim, says scared Pakistan ran like a dog
02:28with tail between legs.
02:32You ask Donald Trump, he single-handedly won the World Cup, he invented the internet,
02:39he cured cancer.
02:41The fact of the matter is, Indians should be more like Americans in this regard and
02:47not take Donald Trump literally.
03:13Our top story on Five Live this evening comes from Turkey via Pakistan, the same country
03:18that India sent immediate assistance to when they were affected by a devastating earthquake
03:24in 2023.
03:25Remember, India did not think twice about helping Turkey at that point.
03:30Today, President Erdogan has assured support to Pakistan and not just simple support, a
03:36sort of brotherhood that he has come out and said no emotional losses can deter him and
03:41his government.
03:42Shocked and angry, in turn, Indian tourists have said, if that is Turkey's response, we
03:47boycott Turkey and Azerbaijan.
03:51Watch this report to help understand what's happening.
03:57In a shocking show of support, Turkey has reaffirmed that it backs Pakistan despite repercussions.
04:05Despite mass cancellations of booking to Turkey and Azerbaijan by Indian tourists, Turkish
04:10President Erdogan has reiterated his support to Pakistan, saying that Turkey has and will
04:16stand with Pakistan against India, whatever the repercussions be.
04:21He added that no economic losses will deter Turkey to stand with its Muslim brother, Pakistan.
04:29The nefarious terror attack or with the missile attack against Pakistan, we had a very clear
04:38stance.
04:40We expressed our support to the Pakistani public.
04:48Despite India's recent earthquake assistance and growing engagement with Ankara, Turkey
04:53has sided with its all-weather ally, Pakistan.
04:56And Erdogan's stance has caused massive outrage in India.
05:01The chorus to boycott Turkish products is hitting fever pitch.
05:05The anti-national activities that Turkey has done with Pakistan, there will be a message
05:12that if such activities are carried out against India, not only the government, but the business
05:17leaders here are also fully supportive of the government.
05:19I boycott all Turkey's products.
05:22I have no interest in keeping any of their products.
05:25Those that are not with our country, we are not with them.
05:31Indian tourists are shunning Turkey and another Pakistan ally, Azerbaijan.
05:36Hundreds of Indian tourists are cancelling their trips to the two countries.
05:40The number of Indian tourists to Turkey has jumped over the last few years.
05:45But within last one week, the bookings to Istanbul have reduced by 60 percent and cancellations
05:51have surged by over 250 percent.
05:55They are standing on the wrong side.
05:58And their standing on that side is related to their ideology, is related to their being
06:02an Islamic country.
06:04And they are also supplying drones to Pakistan.
06:08As our honourable PM has said, water and blood cannot flow together.
06:13Similarly, water, blood and trade should not flow together.
06:19India has long had trade ties with Turkey.
06:22It had stood by the crisis-hit nation during the 2023 earthquake, launching Operation Dost
06:29and supplying relief material to tide over the humanitarian crisis.
06:33Turkey, in return, has supplied drones to Pakistan.
06:37But the nationwide outrage, the drop in sales of Turkish products and the sharp decline
06:42in visits to Ankara are all clear indications that Indians have refused to turn a blind
06:48eye to Turkey's all-out support to Pakistan.
06:51Bureau report India Today.
07:00India Today's big exclusive.
07:01This is coming up with regard to, to help you understand that Turkey wasn't just speaking
07:06in support of Pakistan.
07:08We now expose and reveal how Turkey was helping Pakistan target India during Operation Sindhu
07:17when India was trying to defend itself, respond against civilian attacks.
07:22Turkey was helping Pakistan as well.
07:25And I tell you, in a short while, what exactly am I talking about?
07:29Our sources have revealed to India Today that Pakistan government got drones from Turkey's arsenal.
07:36Can you believe it, ladies and gentlemen?
07:38From Turkey's arsenal, from Turkey's inventory, it was Pakistan receiving drones to strike
07:44at India when India's civilian densely populated areas were facing attacks, which thankfully,
07:50successfully were repulsed.
07:51Our defense systems were in place.
07:53Our armed forces did the job to ensure our civilians are protected in cities.
07:57Our strategic assets are protected.
07:59What Turkish operators guiding the drones was Turkey ensuring that Pakistan in its arsenal
08:06has drones from Turkey, their own specific inventory and arsenal?
08:12Because with debris found in Punjab and J&K as well, a lot of questions are being asked right now.
08:18This is huge.
08:19This is a big exclusive.
08:21And bringing us that big news is India Today's managing editor, Gaurav Sawant.
08:26Gaurav, it is shocking because one would think it's just political support.
08:30But it looks like that during Operation Sindhu, when Pakistan was targeting us,
08:35it was with Turkey's support.
08:39This indeed is true.
08:41In fact, right from the time that Pahalgam terror attack took place and Prime Minister
08:46Narendra Modi issued a stern warning that there would be action that would be taken
08:50not just against terrorists, but their backers.
08:52Turkey started arming Pakistan in a big way, including, according to sources,
08:57give out some of the drones that were in service of their armed forces from their personal inventory.
09:04And a lot of these drones, so whether these were the high altitude, long endurance drones,
09:10the medium altitude, long endurance drone, known as male and male drones,
09:15they gave them the Biractors.
09:17And along with that, they also gave their Songar quadcopters that they're capable of firing,
09:21not just their grenade launchers, but also machine guns.
09:27So they use both for surveillance and for tactical assault.
09:31That's one part of the story.
09:33Second part of the story, Pakistan did not know how to operate some of these drones.
09:37Of course, for maintenance of equipment, for operational assistance,
09:41there are operators who are present on ground, whether it's Chinese operators or Turkish operators,
09:46they're present on ground.
09:48Intelligence officials seem to indicate that some of these Turkish operators
09:52were actually operating those drones that were used to target civilians in India,
09:56which has been a crying shame for the fact that when there was a massive earthquake in Turkey
10:02and the country was in trouble, especially the southern part of the country,
10:06I was reporting from ground zero in Turkey.
10:08Yes, you were there.
10:09And that time, Indians very open-heartedly helped the people of Turkey.
10:14Even now, a large number of Indians go there for vacations, for holiday,
10:18and they play a very significant role in the economy of reviving the economy of Turkey.
10:24But Turkey wants our money, but it wants to continue killing us through Pakistan.
10:29And this is the most unfortunate aspect that has worried a lot of Indians
10:34and that's led to a lot of anger in India.
10:36We, in a way, are funding our own killings.
10:41The manner in which Indians go enjoy their vacations in Turkey,
10:44and Turkey arms Pakistan, and then Pakistan uses the same drones to kill us.
10:49So it's an amazing situation.
10:51According to your experience and understanding,
10:54what is the reason you feel that Turkey would betray India like that?
10:58Is this an Islamic affiliation, a Muslim brotherhood? Is this geopolitics?
11:03Do they want to ensure that with Pakistan is not just friendship,
11:06but possibly investments as well?
11:08What is your understanding of this?
11:10So, Pakistan is a basket case. Nobody wants to invest in Pakistan.
11:14But, you know, that other issue that you raised is very pertinent.
11:18In fact, there was a conspiracy at one point of time,
11:21and Saudi Arabia was very miffed with this conspiracy.
11:23Countries like Turkey, Pakistan, and Malaysia,
11:26they tried to come together for alternate, as they claimed,
11:30the evolved Muslims against what Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates,
11:35and the rest of the Islamic world was doing.
11:37And Erdogan sees himself as some new caliph.
11:40He wants to revive that so-called Ottoman Empire.
11:43So he tied up with the Imran Khan of Pakistan,
11:46and with the leadership in Malaysia.
11:48And several years ago, they actually tried to come up with a new theory of evolved Islam.
11:55As against the Islam that they claimed was being propagated through Saudi Arabia.
12:01They did not want Mecca to be the center.
12:04Turkey wanted Istanbul to be seen as the center.
12:08And Constantinople.
12:10So his aim is to revive that Constantinople, Ottoman Empire,
12:14kind of an image of Turkey once again.
12:16And is using countries like Pakistan and Malaysia.
12:19India very clearly read out the right act to Malaysia,
12:22refused to take palm oil from them,
12:24and some of that, certain other measures that were taken at that point of time,
12:28set Malaysia on the right track.
12:30However, Pakistan remains a basket case for the entire world.
12:34And India very clearly has articulated,
12:36any conversation with Pakistan will only be on the return of Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir.
12:40Indus waters treaty remains held in abeyance with Turkey.
12:44Now it remains to be seen what the people of our country do,
12:47whether they continue to go to Turkey for a vacation,
12:50or boycott that country completely.
12:52And imagine Turkey supporting a terror backer nation like that of Pakistan,
12:56even for the kind of access it wants to hold.
12:58But, incredible information that you've brought to us Gaurav,
13:01thank you very much for now.
13:03And there is a reason therefore,
13:05that Indian, and Indian tourists I mean,
13:07some of them, have cancelled their vacations, holidays to Turkey for a reason.
13:13And don't think that it will not have an impact,
13:15because I want to take you through the numbers.
13:17Why are Indian, Indian tourists angry,
13:19at how Turkey came out in such blatant support to Pakistan at a juncture like this?
13:24Ladies and gentlemen, India's exports to Turkey stands at 6.65 billion dollars in 23-24.
13:32India's imports from Turkey, 2.84 billion dollars in 20-23 and 24.
13:38So basically you can see that even though India's exports were much more,
13:41we wanted to maintain trade with Turkey.
13:44And this is all in official information.
13:46Could this now suffer a setback?
13:48So now let me tell you about the tourists.
13:50Indians visiting Turkey in 2024, in just one year,
13:543,30,985.
13:57This is a big number.
13:59As I quote from the news reports,
14:01how many Indians possibly entered into Turkey for a vacation?
14:05Over 3 lakh, easily.
14:06What does that mean?
14:07In terms of money, in terms of their spending towards Turkey's economy?
14:13350 to 400 million dollars in just 23-24 that was spent in Turkey.
14:20That much amount.
14:22And remember, if we start with cancellations now,
14:24which are also being reported in high numbers,
14:26that clearly shows it will have an impact.
14:29Indian tourists did it with Maldives, remember.
14:32There was clearly a consequence of it, and for Turkey as well.
14:35We believe Turkey was a friend,
14:37but it believes Pakistan really is its best ally.
14:42Amid all of this, but the big question comes in,
14:45it's not just political diplomatic support,
14:47it's not just about a statement.
14:48They were providing drones to Pakistan.
14:51Remember, India launched Operation Dost,
14:54that's what we named, Operation Friend,
14:56for Turkey in 2023 after the earthquake.
14:59Our army personnel was sent there,
15:01our medical equipment were transferred immediately
15:04to our Turkey special camps.
15:07Military hospitals were set up on a temporary emergency basis
15:11to help the people of Turkey.
15:13India was among the first responders.
15:15We didn't think twice before reaching out
15:18to ensure that people of Turkey get immediate help.
15:21It was a devastating earthquake in 2023.
15:23But when I say assistance, means what?
15:26India sent 250-plus rescue and medical personnel
15:30from the armed forces, from the civil defense, and more.
15:33That's not it.
15:34We deployed six C-17 aircrafts with aid and equipment,
15:38and these were, remember, not just once or twice.
15:40They were constant to-and-fro sorties that were done.
15:43India set up a field hospital for critical surgeries as well
15:47to save the life of people of Turkey.
15:50What did Pakistan do, remember?
15:52Primarily promise, if required,
15:54they will be ready to provide assurance.
15:56And this is what we are watching in turn right now.
15:59I want to bring in Shivani Sharma for the latest on that.
16:02Shivani, I would want to know why possibly Erdogan
16:05would bring that support to Pakistan,
16:07but there's no clear, specific reason as modern nations.
16:11It's all rhetoric that's now coming to surface.
16:14But tell me about this.
16:15When you hear of Indian tourists boycotting it,
16:17raising outrage over it, what do you make of that?
16:20It's a justified anger, isn't it?
16:26Certainly, Pooja, this is a justified anger.
16:28We've been getting and putting out all those reports
16:30from Pan India where the Turkish items are being boycotted
16:35and people are high on sentiment.
16:38They are angry with Turkey.
16:40India has been giving profits of millions of dollars
16:44every year through tourism, other trade also.
16:47But now, when it has been exposed that Turkey
16:50has been openly helping Pakistan
16:52in its act against Indian civilians, the anger is on.
16:56And remember, this is only what is going by the public sentiment.
16:59The government has not yet announced a statement
17:03or announced any action against Turkey.
17:05That too is also, we are on a standby for that purpose.
17:10But still, as India is deciding,
17:12as we've been getting voices of the tourism industry,
17:15the jewellery industry for that matter,
17:17the apple industry, the furniture industry,
17:20so all those, they have stopped and put a ban on Turkish products,
17:24import and export, everything.
17:26So this is bringing out that emotion and sentiment of Indian public.
17:29Do you think that it makes an impact for the viewer watching right now,
17:33thinking, will that number, will it really make an impact,
17:36a change, a consequence, will it make Turkey think?
17:43Certainly it will make an impact.
17:45It has already started making an impact on Turkey.
17:47It is certainly feeling that pressure and push from India's,
17:53that cut in the economy that India is now implicating.
17:57People have already cancelled their bookings that were there for Turkey,
18:01for Azerbaijan also for that matter.
18:03So that impact is already falling on Turkey.
18:05So we will in the coming days see more impact on Turkey
18:10for helping Pakistan, which is actually affecting
18:13and trying to damage Indian and attack the civilians in India
18:18for no reason and supporting that terror nexus inside Pakistan.
18:23So it's very clear that Turkey is going to feel that pinch
18:27of actually backstabbing India.
18:29India that had been helping Turkey while it was in the time of need.
18:36Shivani, stay on with me.
18:37It's not just Turkey, sadly.
18:39Another country that's come to support Pakistan
18:41and I want to take that big news coming in.
18:43Let's take a look.
18:44And this is Shehbaz Sharif, boasting about it.
18:47Pakistan Prime Minister.
18:49He's taken to social media site.
18:51XNI mentions here about what he has said.
18:53Spoke to my dear brother.
18:55He's referring to Azerbaijan's president, Ilham Aliyev.
18:59This afternoon, conveying my profound gratitude to him
19:03for Azerbaijan's resolute support to Pakistan.
19:06Now, Azerbaijan hasn't said as much,
19:08but basically this is Shehbaz Sharif stating,
19:10and I quote him here,
19:11the overwhelming support of the people
19:13and leadership of Azerbaijan demonstrating to the world
19:16that Pakistan and Azerbaijan are true brothers.
19:19We discussed bilateral partnership
19:20through enhanced Azerbaijani investment in Pakistan,
19:23reiterating my invitation to the president
19:26to visit Islamabad at the earliest convenience.
19:30Can you believe it?
19:31At this juncture, perhaps it's good to know for India,
19:33at a juncture like this, when we clearly needed friends,
19:37especially who we have helped in the past few years,
19:40to come forth and at least express solidarity and support.
19:43Instead, standing with a terror back of Pakistan
19:45that shelters and hosts a Jaish-e-Mohammad,
19:48a Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Hezbollah Mujahideen,
19:51cannot save its own people,
19:52needs to go beg the International Monetary Fund
19:55for a $2 billion bailout
19:57that has already happened 28 times in 35 years,
20:00and yet depends on that money.
20:02This is at a time when they are sponsoring to rebuild
20:06the Markaz-e-Taiba and Markaz-e-Subhanallah
20:08in Bahawalpur and Muridke.
20:10It's a reminder that Pakistan otherwise says
20:12it needs help, it needs friends, it has nothing, no money,
20:14but somehow there's always money
20:16to rebuild and ensure protection and security
20:19to the terror outfits.
20:20But at a juncture like this,
20:21when Erdogan says we are true brothers,
20:24no economic losses will deter us,
20:26when there is Azerbaijan, at least from Pakistan's side,
20:29to say Azerbaijan is a true brother and a friend.
20:32Are we looking at changing geopolitics here?
20:35India always been kind,
20:37following the civilizational theory
20:40of Vasudev Kutumbakam,
20:42only to watch in times like these,
20:45for an Azerbaijan, for a Turkey
20:48to then offer support to Pakistan.
20:51This is very significant,
20:52this is Shehbaz Sharif boasting about
20:54how Pakistan and Azerbaijan are true brothers,
20:56they've had discussions on Azerbaijani investment,
21:00and of course, they stand with each other at this point.
21:04This is important to remember for India,
21:06even though these two nations have come out in support,
21:09but Azerbaijan apart,
21:11what really pushed Turkey to take this stand?
21:14And that's something that perhaps, of course,
21:16our experts and advisors in the government will be looking at,
21:18that's the big news coming in,
21:20that at least Pakistan is boasting about
21:22its support coming in from Azerbaijan.
21:24Remember at the time,
21:25Azerbaijan and Romania were already involved in a conflict.
21:29India took a very cautious position
21:31when it came to that conflict as much.
21:33Right now, Azerbaijan's support for Pakistan is for all to see.
21:37This is where both Azerbaijan, which is Baku basically,
21:40where a lot of Indian tourists have started to visit
21:42in the past few years.
21:43Istanbul, a beautiful city,
21:45however, now we realize that at this juncture,
21:48Indian tourists are reporting cancellations
21:51toward Turkey, especially to Istanbul,
21:54and other cities as well,
21:55and that is reflective of perhaps the times to come.
21:59Indian tourists by themselves,
22:01remember that's not a government directive,
22:03people by themselves are taking a decision on that.
22:12But I want to give you a big update that has come in,
22:14despite everything that Pakistan has done,
22:17and has faced damage on its bases,
22:20on its terror targets,
22:22Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif
22:25tried to do what Prime Minister Modi did,
22:27which is visit a base.
22:28Now you would think an air base, ideally,
22:30any military base,
22:32after Prime Minister Modi visited and landed
22:34at Adampur Air Base to show everything
22:36is fully functional in operation.
22:38Prime Minister of Pakistan attempted the same,
22:40in turn, is getting brutally trolled on social media,
22:43and I'll tell you why, it's for all to see,
22:45it's not very difficult.
22:46He was accompanied by the Army Chief General Asim Mone,
22:49instead of showcasing real military strength,
22:52Shahbaz Sharif took a road drive,
22:56doesn't make sense, to an air base,
22:59and then simply stood on top of a military tank,
23:02when we're talking about offensive power of the Air Force,
23:05and then said, Pakistan is claiming victory
23:08for the damage to the bases, in this report.
23:20After the successful execution of Operation Sindoor,
23:23Prime Minister Narendra Modi, on Tuesday,
23:26visited the Adampur Air Base in Punjab,
23:28quashing all baseless Pakistani claims
23:31that the base had been hit.
23:34While lauding the bravery of Indian forces,
23:36Prime Minister Modi showcased the S-400 missile system,
23:40falsely claimed by Pakistan to have been destroyed.
23:45While India celebrates a real victory,
23:47Pakistan is busy celebrating a fake one.
23:51With Pakistan's air bases damaged by Indian strikes,
23:54Prime Minister Sharif was unable to fly.
23:57Instead of using an aircraft, he had to travel by jeep
24:00to reach the so-called military base,
24:02or what remains of that.
24:07Pakistan's Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif
24:09and Army Chief General Asim Mone
24:11were brutally trolled for copying Prime Minister Modi
24:14and visiting Pakistani military sites a day later.
24:24If you plan again, you will get us ready.
24:27And if you think of attacking again,
24:30then whatever is left of you will be finished.
24:35While Prime Minister Modi visited Adampur Air Base
24:38to boost soldier morale and celebrate
24:40the success of Operation Sindoor,
24:42Shahbaz Sharif toured Pasroor and Sialkot air bases,
24:46making false claims of victory
24:48under Operation Bunyan al-Marsus.
24:50Peddling propaganda, Shahbaz Sharif
24:52stood in front of a few hundred soldiers
24:54and a couple of tanks,
24:56claiming Pakistan had defeated India
24:58and calling it revenge for the 1971 war.
25:02But despite Sharif's best efforts to spread lies,
25:05the internet was quick to call him out,
25:07trolling the Pakistani establishment
25:09with brutal precision.
25:12While India has been exposing Pakistan of its bluff,
25:16Pakistan is just becoming a leader
25:18Pakistan is just becoming a laughing stock in the world.
25:21This is Shivani Sharma with Cameraperson Manish Biduri
25:24for India Today from New Delhi.
25:29So I thought let's make a quick comparison
25:31about Prime Minister Modi visiting the Adampur Air Base
25:34about two days ago and then comes in
25:36Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
25:38Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited the Adampur Air Base
25:41in Punjab that Pakistan had claimed
25:43they have completely destroyed and damaged.
25:46So Prime Minister Modi then decided
25:48to land a C-130 Hercules,
25:50a super Hercules aircraft,
25:52and at the base, which basically means
25:54ATC is functional, airbase is functional,
25:56and then goes to meet the air warriors on the ground.
26:01Shahbaz Sharif's location
26:03was clearly far away from an airbase.
26:06There was no airfield that,
26:08in many ways, the airbases that India has hit,
26:11more than nine.
26:12He could have chosen any of the airbases
26:14that India has claimed to have hit,
26:16but instead, he chose what looked like,
26:19to me, honestly, a field, a maidan,
26:21not a military base.
26:23Prime Minister Modi had landed, again,
26:25like I mentioned, a huge military aircraft.
26:27Interestingly, Pakistan Prime Minister
26:30traveled and drove in a Jeep,
26:33like it's a safari in a sanctuary,
26:36to address the Pakistan security personnel.
26:38Why not choose an airbase?
26:40Why not land on an airbase
26:41to show everything is fully functional
26:43and operational?
26:45Prime Minister Modi, remember,
26:47when he was speaking,
26:48in the background was the S-400 air defense system,
26:51the surface-to-air missile system,
26:53MiG fighter jets.
26:54The messaging here was Pakistan claimed
26:56all of this was destroyed.
26:57Here it was in the background,
26:59fully functional and shown
27:00when the Prime Minister was speaking.
27:02Pakistan had falsely claimed it was destroyed.
27:04It wasn't.
27:05On the other side,
27:06Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif
27:08posing with army tanks.
27:10But Pakistan army,
27:12the Indian army as much,
27:14played no role with tanks
27:16in Operation Sindhur
27:17or its response.
27:18Why were there these tanks camouflaged?
27:21And he's standing on top of one of these
27:22to show that and claim that there is victory.
27:25This is hilarious, to say the least.
27:27I want to bring in India Today's managing editor,
27:29Gaurav Sawant, on this.
27:30Gaurav, tell me what comparison,
27:33when you make,
27:34how do you look at the differences
27:36between the two?
27:37He's trying to show everything is okay.
27:39What are some of the peculiar notifications
27:42that you have picked on from these visuals?
27:45You know, the question you asked is
27:47why didn't they go to an airbase?
27:49Because all their airbases have been bombed
27:52and hammered by Indian,
27:55whether it's the BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles
27:57or some of the other military hardware
27:59that's been used.
28:00Clearly, they can't go to an airbase.
28:02Where would they have gone?
28:03The closest boat for General Asim Munir
28:06and Shahbaz Sharif from Islamabad and Rawalpindi
28:09would have been the Noor Khan airbase.
28:11But Noor Khan airbase,
28:12instead of giving them pride,
28:14will give them deep despair
28:16the manner in which India was able to strike so deep
28:19inside Pakistan at Rawalpindi,
28:22right next to Islamabad, their capital.
28:24So it's humiliation for them, point one.
28:27This effort, very, very desperate effort
28:29on the part of Pakistanis to keep their morale high.
28:32And it's almost impossible for a defeated army
28:35to keep its morale high in 21st century
28:38when two nuclear-powered countries
28:40face off with each other.
28:42The manner in which India has hammered Pakistan,
28:45this is a hammering Pakistan will not forget
28:47for a very long time.
28:48What Pakistan does, of course, score in
28:51is misinformation and disinformation,
28:53which it did even in 1971 and 65.
28:56Because in Pakistani textbooks,
28:58they're a 5,000-year-old civilization
29:00and they won every war against India.
29:03And the earth is flat.
29:04So in all of this, in all of this,
29:06and these are facts, this is taught to Pakistanis.
29:09So, you know, when the DNA is so warped in such a way,
29:13you just move forward.
29:14Can they fight a war?
29:15Warfighting requires military capabilities.
29:19A proper country cannot fight a war, point one.
29:22And that too, when it's surviving on dole and arms,
29:24their radars were taken out.
29:26India's operations were meticulous,
29:28systematic, and for effect.
29:30That just shows how a professional armed forces work.
29:33They first targeted nine terror bases,
29:36including headquarters in Muridke and Bahawalpur.
29:38That was the first heart attack for Pakistan.
29:41A heart attack because you can't strike.
29:44That was the convention
29:45that you can't strike in the heart of Pakistan's Punjab province.
29:48You may strike anywhere.
29:49POJK, KPK, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, all of that is okay.
29:54But here, Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
29:56what sources are telling me,
29:57cleared a strike on Bahawalpur and Muridke.
30:02The biggest slap across the face
30:04of Pakistan's military terror complex, point one.
30:07Point two, if I may,
30:09after that, our DGMO called up the Pakistani DGMO
30:12and said, this is what we've done.
30:14We advise you not to escalate.
30:16Then they escalated.
30:17Once they escalated,
30:19India then took out their radar bases.
30:22Any sensible army would have wargamed this.
30:25And it just shows the Chinese equipment collapsed.
30:29It failed.
30:30It cannot protect itself.
30:31Imagine a Chinese honky radar that cannot protect itself.
30:35How will it protect Pakistani airspace in Lahore
30:38or around Lahore?
30:39Pakistan still did not learn its lesson.
30:41It thought it will escalate.
30:43It's like a drug addict playing that poker game.
30:45You know, addicted to drugs or gamble.
30:47They continue to gamble.
30:49It wasn't tactics on their part.
30:50They were gambling that India will not escalate.
30:52What they didn't realize is that Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
30:55the service chiefs, the NSA,
30:56the external affairs minister, defense minister,
30:58they'd all wargamed this.
31:00Maybe five levels even ahead, you know,
31:03in that escalation ladder.
31:04So when they still tried to escalate,
31:07India then went and hit 13 airbases
31:10across the length and breadth of Pakistan.
31:12Of course, leaving some scope that if you escalate further,
31:15we will hit the remaining airbases.
31:17That just goes on to show that that country's morale
31:20has now hit rock bottom.
31:22And that is why they're standing on tanks,
31:24trying to, you know, say whatever,
31:26Pakistan ki jai or whatever they may want to say.
31:28But there is no jai jai kaar in defeat.
31:30They also know it.
31:32Gaurav, in fact, I'm glad that Pakistan leaders
31:34are giving those interviews.
31:36They are doing these theatrics.
31:38It's only exposing them further
31:40and with hope to the world as well.
31:42Thank you very much for now.
31:43Gaurav Sawant with all the details on that.
31:45I have some big news coming in.
31:46Let's take a look at that.
31:49♪
31:55The Indian Army Chief appreciating the troops
31:57for operational brilliance during Operation Sindhu.
32:00In a stirring tribute to the valor and professionalism
32:02of the Indian soldiers, General Upendra Devedi,
32:04Chief of the Army Staff,
32:06visited forward areas in Srinagar, Uri,
32:10other areas as well,
32:11and to personally congratulate and motivate the troops
32:14because, remember, many of these unknown soldiers
32:17ensured civilians were protected,
32:19strategic assets were protected,
32:21and, of course, at a time we did lose our brave hearts as well.
32:24It's a reminder of the kind of seamless coordination,
32:27multiple threat vectors,
32:29that our soldiers have been a part of.
32:31So, General Devedi,
32:32commending the valor, josh, that's always been high
32:35and dominating the line of control.
32:37So, that's the latest shabashi that has come in.
32:40Look at that.
32:41That's the image on your screen
32:43that when the Army Chief himself lands up
32:45in different locations, either forward areas,
32:48and therefore, right now, it is important.
32:50Indian Army's legacy of honor, remember,
32:52unwavering readiness to meet future challenges
32:54and with decisive force.
32:56At a time like this, remember,
32:58when Pakistan was creating tensions at the border,
33:01especially line of control, international border,
33:04it was the Indian Armed Forces,
33:06the Indian Army especially,
33:08apart from the offensive power of the Indian Air Force,
33:10it was the jawans, the officers on the ground,
33:13who were ensuring that our people are safe.
33:19The hunt is on for the Pehlgam terrorists.
33:21The armed forces across Jammu and Kashmir
33:23have intensified counter-terror ops
33:25across especially Kashmir Valley.
33:27Now, there has been a list with the security agencies.
33:29The latest updated list has about 14 terrorist names
33:32confirmed, out of which, in this high-priority list,
33:35six have been neutralized in the past 48 hours.
33:37Now, the three terrorists believed to be
33:39from the Jaish-e-Mohammad,
33:41who were killed in Tral this morning.
33:43Three have been from the Lashkar-e-Taiba,
33:45who were neutralized about 24 hours ago.
33:48India Today has exclusively accessed drone videos,
33:51the last moments of the terrorists,
33:53the moment before he was neutralized.
33:55Because, remember, this has to be identified, confirmed,
33:58and that's when the security agencies,
33:59the armed forces were sure of the identity
34:02and the clarity of the terrorists.
34:03They went for the kill.
34:04Drone footage captures these dramatic visuals on the screen.
34:07This is from the encounter site.
34:08You can hear in the background the gunfire.
34:10Sound echoing in the background.
34:12Big fume of smoke from what clearly looks like
34:15a residential area,
34:16and that highlights intensity of the operation as well.
34:19But this is important.
34:20These are evidence that the security forces have
34:23about the terrorists with arms and ammunition
34:26misusing residential areas,
34:28because they believe that that's not where
34:30the armed forces would come.
34:31But right now, armed forces are on such an alert,
34:34they have gone for the kill in this area as well.
34:37All of this is a strategy also, remember,
34:39to dismantle terror infrastructure
34:41where they misuse civilian areas to launch terror attacks.
34:45Three Lashkar-e-Taiba suspected terrorists
34:47yesterday eliminated in Shopia, remember.
34:49These two encounters are very crucial.
34:51Because, remember, as we hit Bahawalpur and Muridke,
34:54Jaish and Lashkar, terror operational centers,
34:57the terror outfits will want to escalate the situation
35:00further in Kashmir Valley.
35:03Security forces got specific information
35:06regarding the movement of terrorists in that area.
35:09Accordingly, cordon was laid off,
35:11and it led to the ensuing of encounter
35:15between security forces and hold-up terrorists.
35:17So far, we have observed few bodies of terrorists.
35:20Three bodies are observed.
35:22But operation is still going on at this moment.
35:25It will take some time to sanitize and conclude.
35:28So, identities and affiliation
35:32could only be divulged only after that.
35:34They would like to assert themselves,
35:36and I don't think there's a change
35:38in the Pakistani policy of terrorism right now.
35:41Though the cost and consequence of Pakistan
35:43supporting terrorism is much higher.
35:45They have to pay for it.
35:47And Pakistan's low-cost, high-effect war
35:50has actually become a high-cost, low-effect war.
35:52But the fact remains that the retribution will continue.
35:57All the plotting places of the Tel-Gon terror attack
36:00will be neutralized.
36:01Some of them are already neutralized,
36:03at least five or six have already been neutralized.
36:05They've been recognized, and these are retribution offs.
36:07So, these are basically two parts.
36:09One is inward retribution offs,
36:11and the aim is to bring in normalcy in Kashmir, basically.
36:15There was normalcy prevailing.
36:17Kashmir was flooded with tourists.
36:19It was peace.
36:20It was economic development taking place,
36:23and everything changed after Tel-Gon.
36:25I think we need to ensure inward
36:27that Kashmir is back on the economic development road.
36:30Education, employment, generation and things go on.
36:33And at the same time,
36:35the cost of Pakistan is raised so high
36:37that it does not cross our red lines again.
36:39I'm not saying that without Sindhu,
36:41terrorism will finish off.
36:43There is a big, big setback for Pakistan supporting terrorism.
36:46Pakistan supports terrorism.
36:47We should not call it a North-South attack.
37:00Kashmir is where this is building up.
37:02These are residential areas
37:04where these terrorists have managed a hideout.
37:06Tell me more about how the strategy of the armed forces
37:09is to ensure to go for the kill,
37:11but also not have collateral damage around.
37:19Well, Pooja, this is a typical Kashmir encounter.
37:22If we take a flashback
37:24and talk of the last 10, 20, 30 years,
37:27these encounters usually have happened
37:29in built-up areas like these.
37:31This, again, was a classic encounter
37:33where the security forces got the step off
37:35of a Jaish hideout inside a three-storey house,
37:38a concrete house.
37:40A cordon was laid, search was started.
37:42They were greeted with gunfire
37:44and an encounter ensued.
37:46For five hours,
37:48the Jaish Khader put up a resistance,
37:51but finally they were shot dead.
37:53Obviously, as you rightly said,
37:55there is collateral damage previously,
37:57but in this case,
37:59no powerful explosives were used,
38:01and mostly using gunfire and rifle grenades,
38:04they were killed.
38:06Two encounters we have seen,
38:08but now, Pooja,
38:10the focus shifts to the forest areas
38:12because while the local recruitment
38:15has come down to a trickle.
38:17Remember, five, six years back,
38:19it used to be in hundreds.
38:21Right now, multi-agency input says 15 to 20,
38:23out of whom six have been killed in two days.
38:25So you can understand,
38:2710-15 in total,
38:29if you talk of Kashmir Valley,
38:31so that's not a very significant figure.
38:33But what is dangerous is the presence of
38:35AFTs who are better trained,
38:37well-equipped, and are
38:39in many ways more war machines.
38:41Last two years, we've seen them camping
38:43in the forest area,
38:45and our sources say that post this,
38:47there will be a scan in the forest areas,
38:49and they are the real danger.
38:51They have perpetrated the Pahalgam attack,
38:53they are a threat to the Amarnath Yatra,
38:55and that is why the security agencies
38:57will go full throttle against them in the coming days.
38:59It's a reminder, that means, Farid,
39:01a lot changed, a lot of transformations
39:03were witnessed in Kashmir Valley,
39:05especially, but Pakistan will not want
39:07that to continue,
39:09and therefore will want to infiltrate
39:11more and more terrorists, active terrorists
39:13in South Kashmir, and that's where
39:15the armed forces, the security agencies
39:17cannot let their guard down.
39:19Terrorists still are around
39:21in J&K, will want to harm civilians
39:23and the armed forces. We'll be tracking more on that.
39:25And, Farid, thank you for now.
39:27But Prime Minister Narendra Modi, remember,
39:29visiting the Adampur Air Base.
39:31Now, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh, this morning,
39:33was in Srinagar. The Minister
39:35visited an air base, also the Chenar Corps
39:37headquarter in Srinagar, which is responsible
39:39for the military operation decisions.
39:41So, he met, interacted with the station soldiers.
39:43It's also to understand
39:45what unfolded on the ground at a time
39:47when the Indian Air Force,
39:49despite repeated strikes,
39:51managed to neutralize 100 terrorists,
39:53different terror targets, military targets.
39:55A lot of the credit goes to the Indian Armed Forces,
39:57especially to ensure
39:59that in Srinagar and Avantipora bases,
40:01our strategic assets were kept protected.
40:03Defence Minister stressed that
40:05if Pakistan attempts misadventure again,
40:07it will know it will bleed even deep inside
40:09its own territory. There were, of course,
40:11slogans of Bharat Mata Ki Jai and more.
40:13Let's listen in to what did the Defence Minister
40:15say.
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44:27father currently is critical in the hospital with injuries.
44:31Amrik Singh, a ragi who performed kirtan,
44:33Amarjeet Singh, an ex-serviceman, and many others.
44:37Today, also watch the coverage of the people of Poonch,
44:40the courage and the valor that they have.
44:42These civilians stood their ground amid Pakistan's shelling.
44:46Healthcare workers continued their duty
44:49at the Raja Sukhdev Singh District Hospital.
44:51They're facing grief.
44:52They have been suffering from Pakistan's shelling
44:55for decades now, but they also continue to stand
44:57for their nation and the people, while Pakistan fired
45:00relentlessly at densely populated residential areas.
45:04India Today's Kamaljeet Sandhu with this extensive report
45:07from Poonch region.
45:10Almost a week has gone by since Poonch
45:12came under heavy artillery shelling, which
45:14killed over 13 people.
45:16We are here at the hospital because, remember,
45:19several people were injured.
45:21But there are these unsung heroes, the doctors,
45:25when everybody was rushing out of town.
45:28These are the doctors who stayed put.
45:30They kept treating those who were severely injured.
45:34Let's just start here because, remember,
45:36we've called these team of doctors a busy day,
45:38but we've called them just for a small bit to talk about.
45:43So do tell us, unprecedented night.
45:46I mean, unprecedented shelling, number of people coming in,
45:50wanting rescue, wanting relief.
45:53How did the team of doctors, how did
45:55yourself kind of go through this entire night?
45:59As is planned in our SOPs, our medical student, he was here.
46:03And we were here actually before the shelling started.
46:06We were wonderfully led by our director of health services,
46:09who himself was here.
46:10And as we were planning, we planned a system of triage.
46:14We saved our families.
46:16They were here in the quarters.
46:17And we all came to hospital, irrespective of specialties.
46:21These are the brave doctors.
46:22These are the faces because they are unsung heroes.
46:26Women doctors also present here.
46:28And ma'am, do tell us, I mean, what did it really take?
46:31I mean, you would be worried about your family,
46:33yet you were all here on ground.
46:35Yeah, I'm gynecologist, Dr. Priyanka Bhagat.
46:37On the day of the shelling, I was on duty.
46:40I was with my kids at the night when the shelling started.
46:43I consoled my kids and I took them
46:46to the hospital along with me.
46:48I thought if the shelling came
46:50and the patient came to the operation theater,
46:52what will I do?
46:53I consoled my kids and I shifted them.
46:56I, with the cooperation of all the staff,
46:58we managed the night.
46:59We managed sometimes in the below second floor, third floor.
47:03And we tried to-
47:04Can you imagine bringing in your children
47:06while it's bombing to ensure
47:08that not only do you take care of patients,
47:10but also take care of your own kids?
47:12Jalpeet Kaur, you are a doctor here.
47:15I mean, the sort of crisis,
47:18what is the precedent that you set in?
47:20Because it's inspirational to see
47:21so many women really come out.
47:23There are all doctors here, men, women, both putting in.
47:27How many days did it go on?
47:29I've been told there was no rest for at least four days.
47:32As soon as the shelling started, ma'am,
47:33without any intimation, we all rushed to the hospital
47:36and we started helping out with the patients.
47:38Ma'am, I am the child specialist.
47:39We had about 20 to 30 children admitted in our ward.
47:42Some of them were on oxygen because they were sick.
47:44And immediately, ma'am, our nursing staff and us,
47:46we started shifting the patients from the top floor
47:48to the ground floor to secure the patients.
47:50We calmed the families.
47:51We told them not to worry.
47:52We'll take care of the kids.
47:54And ma'am, there is a newborn ICU also here.
47:56There were several newborns on oxygen in the ICU.
47:59We could not shift them.
48:00Our sisters stayed with the babies,
48:02putting their lives at risk.
48:03We told the mothers and the fathers,
48:05they don't worry that the kids are our responsibility
48:07and we will take care of them.
48:08I think the name itself, Operation Sindoor,
48:11is a testimony to the strength and the courage
48:13of the women in our country.
48:15And I think we put our lives at stake,
48:17but we don't regret a single moment of it
48:19because this is what we have to do for our country.
48:21When the country needs us, we have to stand for it.
48:45How worried were you about your family?
49:02I'm Dr. Kamran Nisar, anesthetist.
49:05My family was away.
49:06My kids were at Jammu and they were constantly calling me,
49:09but I was not able to receive their calls
49:12and just telling them I'm here.
49:15And then my son told me,
49:16Mama, you are doing good.
49:18You remain there. I'll not come.
49:20Whatever we could do, we did.
49:22It was a ghostly nightmare.
49:24And without worrying for our lives,
49:28we were doing our best.
49:29Without worrying about their own safety,
49:31these are not all heroes wear capes,
49:35but some of them are in white and they are doctors.
49:38Look at the numbers.
49:39But remember, a whole lot of them discharged
49:41all because of timely intervention.
49:44Obviously, some lives could not be saved,
49:46but all doctors, all nurses, all reported here
49:50and the relentless work went on.
49:52We've been told it was food,
49:54hospital chairs were brushed in,
49:56in terms of 24 seven,
49:58they put in for the next four days
50:00till the crisis came to an end.
50:03And these are the heroes of the nation
50:05who stand before you.
50:07With camera person Girish,
50:08this is Kamaljeet Sandhu in Poonch for India Today.
50:12Incredible courage, remember, of the people,
50:15the determination of these people,
50:17whether healthcare workers or civilians as well.
50:19Perhaps it's time now that Pakistan
50:22is held accountable for how it targeted civilians.
50:25Remember this, India never did it
50:27despite the distress and anger it faced.
50:29It only went for terror targets and military targets.
50:32That's the difference that remains
50:34between India and Pakistan.
50:36I'm wrapping up this bulletin for now.
50:38Thank you so much for watching Five Live.