In an exclusive interview with senior most journalist Bharathi S Pradhan for Lehren Retro, 92 Yr. Old legendary music director Anandji Bhai (Kalyanji-Anandji fame) recalls his fond memories & brotherly bond with actor-filmmaker Manoj Kumar. The musician shares some unheard & exciting stories from their early industry days & also compliments the star Bharat Kumar's musical & cinematic sense by talking about their collaborations like Upkar, Purab Aur Paschim & other ventures. #anandji #kalyanjianandji #manojkumar #upkar #purabaurpaschim #anandjiinterview #kalyanjianandjisongs
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00:00Anandji, when he came to make a movie,
00:04you thought that he would change the cinema?
00:11Because he was the first person in the cinema.
00:14To give a message to the country and to give a song, it was very difficult.
00:20Chansi mehbhu, maho meri kabu, aisa mehne socha tha.
00:29Gaana laghi haam, gai?
00:33Jav zero diya meri bharat ne, bharat ne meri bharat ne.
00:41Mujhe nahi kuch ni tumse bhi ti baat hai kise bhi guzali.
00:44Mere rati, aise to meri meri.
00:46Mere rati, mere rati, aisa gaanas leo meh.
00:52Ikan kohong leega nahi.
00:53Mere rati, minan kohi leega nahi.
00:54Mere rati, minan kohi leega nahi.
00:55Mere rati, kong wende liega nahi.
00:57Mere rati, minan kohi kegaan na, bharat ne.
01:00Tharaddi ka, kong wende liega nahi.
01:01Iki ta rye lahat ne, bharat na, baat na, baat na, baat na.
01:04Aanda jui baat na, baat na.
01:06Aandandji, baai, hali meh we lost Manuj kumar hai.
01:10Achyai, Anandji bhai.
01:13In reality, we lost Manuj Kumar Ji, whom you have worked very well.
01:19Yes, with a very good work.
01:21I mean, that was also his own film.
01:23Uppkar, Purabharpastchim.
01:25In these films, you have given such a remarkable story.
01:30That people...
01:32No, they can't even talk to them.
01:34They can't even talk to them.
01:35They can't even talk to them.
01:37Correct.
01:38The reality of the life is everything.
01:40But...
01:41I often say that Manuj Ji was very good.
01:46The village, the country, they knew everything.
01:51And when we talk about it, we charge ourselves.
01:54That we should do something.
01:55Like Jay Jag Diswarer.
01:57We had an arti to do.
01:59Correct.
02:00If it is arti, I didn't want to make a film.
02:03I mean, what do you mean?
02:05I mean, I put a violin violin in it.
02:07Obviously.
02:08I said, it doesn't happen in the village.
02:10Correct.
02:10So, how do we do it?
02:11We will do it.
02:12Let's see how we do it.
02:13How did you do it?
02:14How did you do it?
02:15We just called it to our singers.
02:19No violin.
02:20No violin.
02:21No violin.
02:22No violin.
02:23No violin.
02:24No violin.
02:25No violin.
02:26No violin.
02:27No violin.
02:33No violin.
02:34and this rhythm is the same for the people in the village, in the temple,
02:39who listen to and think about what has to do with the instrument,
02:41we have done so that we do have to do it.
02:43Okay.
02:43So, if you look at it,
02:44many people think that they are listening to the art,
02:48so they are sitting in the temple,
02:50it doesn't seem to be a film.
02:52Okay.
02:52You mean film is in the film, but it doesn't.
02:56It's been so decoration,
02:58it's like that.
02:59It's been a filmic license,
03:01so we have to do a lot of things.
03:03which it doesn't have to be.
03:06So, actually, your first encounter was when he was a hero in Himalaya.
03:12He didn't make a picture, but he was a hero.
03:15Yeah.
03:16So, your relationship started there?
03:19Yes, it was naturally because in that day,
03:21actors, dancers, all came for sitting.
03:24Sitting, right?
03:25Sitting, right?
03:26Yeah.
03:27The song was not in two minutes.
03:28The phone was not on the phone.
03:30So, sitting, sitting, what will we do?
03:32What will we do?
03:33What will we do?
03:34What will we do?
03:35What will we do?
03:36Sometimes we will do this,
03:38we will do that.
03:39Sometimes we will do that.
03:40Sometimes we will do that.
03:41Sometimes we will do that.
03:42The director is a lot of granger.
03:43I don't know.
03:44I don't know.
03:45Do something in the shot.
03:47So, it's a discussion.
03:49So, when the actor and hero were in Himalaya,
03:55you thought that there was a knowledge of him?
03:59I'm sorry.
04:00I was sorry.
04:01You have to do that.
04:02That's all I have.
04:03I've heard you.
04:04There is no character,
04:06but we can understand that.
04:08What's the story of the camera?
04:10What's the story of the camera?
04:11You can say you have a long shot in the opening.
04:13Correct.
04:14I start with an opening long shot,
04:17and I think that,
04:18it's a camera.
04:19It's a secret.
04:20Correct.
04:21I'm going with this thing.
04:24I think that,
04:25it's a natural thing.
04:26I don't know anything about it, but I don't know about it.
04:29So, you gave them a song called Chant Si Mehbhu.
04:34Do you remember that song?
04:36Yeah, yeah.
04:37Chant Si Mehbhu, maho meri kabu, aisa mene socha tha.
04:45It was a song, you guys?
04:49Today, Anand Ji, I am the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one who is the one.
04:54So, it was Mukesh Ji's voice.
04:57But Manoj Ji, you gave them two or three different types of voices, right?
05:03Mahindra Kapoor, depending on the song.
05:08Mahindra Kapoor was very good.
05:11It was a village where there were songs where there were folk songs.
05:16They were rustic.
05:19So, it was amazing.
05:21It was my village of the village.
05:22Yeah, it was a song.
05:24It was like a song.
05:25And the songs that came up with me,
05:27and everything came up with me.
05:28Why did everyone come up with me?
05:29Your village of my village is the one.
05:32My god.
05:33People also listen and react to it.
05:37It's timeless.
05:38Absolutely.
05:39No, no.
05:40It's my village of my village.
05:42It's a Mukhara.
05:43The writer had written about this country, Gulshan, which is this country.
05:48Gulshan Bhavra.
05:49Yes. So, this is the end of it.
05:51Musically, this is my country.
05:55It should be my country because it's my country. It's personal.
05:59Was it Manoj Kumar's idea?
06:01What?
06:02That it should be my country.
06:04No, no. We were sitting here.
06:05Musically, it was our problem.
06:08This country is my country.
06:11It's my country.
06:13It's personal to me.
06:15It's my country.
06:16Any third person can come in.
06:18It's very good.
06:20Correct.
06:21It's my country.
06:24But in 4 days, it's my country.
06:27It's a word.
06:29It's a word.
06:30It's my country.
06:34It's my country.
06:36It's my country.
06:39It's my country.
06:41It's my country.
06:43It's my country.
06:44You have to convince yourself
06:45that you have to convince yourself.
06:46Ultimately, you have to convince yourself
06:47I have to convince myself
06:48to do my country.
06:49Yes, you have to convince yourself
06:50to do everything.
06:51Correct.
06:52The judge the Hiswari had a total of water and all that I was able to do it in the country's heart.
07:00So it was great.
07:02I liked that one day at 9 o'clock in the summer and the other day,
07:09the other day, the other day, the other day, I already finished.
07:12I was able to do parts for a while.
07:14I had a song for a while, but I had to do parts.
07:17But the singer also had the same.
07:19Yeah.
07:19It doesn't hurt, you can sit down.
07:21Correct, correct.
07:21Mahindra Ji said that...
07:22Mahindra Ji said that you can listen to the song.
07:26So, the whole work is a lot of fun.
07:28It doesn't have any tension.
07:30It's like Nipto, it's happening, it's happening, it's happening.
07:33After that, it wasn't us, but after that,
07:37Mahabharat...
07:40His whole room would be sound with his voice, yeah.
07:46Ravindra Ji said that.
07:48So, his voice was something different.
07:51He had a strength in his voice, which...
07:53Body was, right?
07:54Yeah.
07:55Body was.
07:56That's true.
07:57So, if you were to be a singer of the song,
08:02With the coordination with the producer and the director.
08:05And the requirement.
08:07Yes.
08:08So, do you think that Manoj Ji also agreed with you
08:13that it was the most famous singer of the song?
08:16It was the most famous singer.
08:17Like, Raj Kapoor, Mukesh Ji, it was his favourite.
08:20So, those were also their favourite musicians.
08:22They were the favourite musicians,
08:23Not many of them,
08:24Mahindra Ji's pictures,
08:26Yes.
08:27When I went to work, Mahindra Ji was set.
08:31He was doing good work, he was enjoying, sitting.
08:34And sometimes what happens is that one song is being made and the other song is being made.
08:39Oh.
08:40That's how it is.
08:41I said, this is not the same, but it's not the same.
08:44That's the same.
08:45Okay.
08:46We thought about it, but it's not the same.
08:49Right.
08:50So this is the same.
08:51In my country, there was a song called Kasmwaade Kaurwapa.
08:57Correct.
08:58Who was the song?
08:59Pranad Ji.
09:00Pranad Ji's character is changing the first time.
09:02Correct.
09:03Villain to divine person.
09:05Yes.
09:06If you listen to the song, if you like the song, then you will keep it in the song.
09:12Then you will sing.
09:14Malang.
09:15Malang, we don't even understand.
09:17Well, it is the same.
09:18That's the song.
09:19Yes.
09:20He will sing.
09:21Correct.
09:22And this song is originally the first time of the song.
09:25Correct.
09:26Now, we were scared of the song.
09:28The first time of the song is a picture of the song.
09:30So we will see how to do it.
09:33We will say, let it go, Seth Ji.
09:34Seth Ji is the same.
09:36We will say, let it go, nobody will heal.
09:38Okay.
09:39No one will be able to heal.
09:40So when the song is done, the song is completely done.
09:42Yes.
09:43It's completely.
09:44In the beginning of the song, we were like, what is going on, what is going on.
09:47Pranth Ji is also sitting, sitting, sitting, sitting, and then I saw it,
09:51but it's not a villain to Pranth Ji.
09:53It's different.
09:54Yes.
09:55So when the Messiah comes to you, then you will tell yourself,
09:58then you will tell yourself the song.
09:59When you look at your eyes, you will see the fire, you will see the fire.
10:02The fire will see the fire.
10:04The fire will see the fire.
10:06The fire will see the fire?
10:07The fire will see the fire.
10:09How did it go?
10:10He will meet in the house
10:14He is singing the song
10:16Is that something?
10:18He is singing the song
10:19He will meet in the house
10:23How was Pranth when he was sitting in the house?
10:27He was a different one
10:29He was a villain
10:33He must have been in a different mood
10:36Marky jiye, onhoonai itni performance diya
10:38ko poori veen ashi dikhti ho ghi
10:40Hmm, ja buga na da reka
10:41Hoga masihaa
10:43Asa lakta ghaan sachi ghaa reka
10:45Correct, correct, yes
10:47So, ye performance ka aata
10:50Yes, yes
10:51So, everything used to be very lively
10:53Masih sari kaam ho raha tha
10:54Okay
10:55Kuchh aisa nahi ka
10:56Aisi ki ta si karde nahi, ye bhi nahi hai
10:58Sab karde ja raha raha, kaam karde raha
11:00Or woh Mahindar Kapoor, Pranhand sahab
11:02Or Manoj Kumar, tino, Punjabi
11:05Punjabi ji, Punjabi
11:06So they would have been enjoying themselves ki Punjabi mein gaana gaana
11:09I mean Punjabi bolna
11:10Yeh, that's true
11:12Vadiyah Vadiyah Vadiyah Vadiyah which ever going on
11:15That's true
11:16Can you give me a little bit of background on
11:21Jab wo Himalaya ki Gohd me
11:22wo to hero thai
11:24And wo Gana itna bada
11:27It became such a big hit
11:28Behooti bada
11:29Jo Himalaya ki Gohd me
11:31and they gave him the sound of Mukesh Ji.
11:35So that became a big hit.
11:37That was very big hit.
11:38Very big hit. Straight away. Straight away Sixer killed him.
11:41I was like, I don't want to do this job.
11:44Straight away.
11:45Fortunately, all the music director thought about the film fair award or this award,
11:51why don't we give ourselves an award?
11:53Okay.
11:54We will give ourselves an award and we will give ourselves an award.
11:57Luckily, that year, this song has passed.
11:59Okay.
12:00But we will give ourselves an award for it.
12:02However, it will continue.
12:05That idea was very good.
12:06Okay.
12:07That we will compose and we will give ourselves an award.
12:11Yeah.
12:12So that's the work.
12:13Right.
12:14So that's the work.
12:15Yeah.
12:15So after that, when he came to you for Upkar,
12:20I think 1967?
12:22Yeah.
12:23I think around 1967.
12:241967.
12:24So when he came to you for Upkar,
12:26the film was a part of the film,
12:29so how did you come to you for the film?
12:31You know,
12:32I mean,
12:33I mean,
12:34I mean,
12:35I mean,
12:36I mean,
12:37I mean,
12:38I mean,
12:39I mean,
12:40I mean,
12:41I mean,
12:42I mean,
12:43film maker been.
12:45When we meet, we also get to know that I am also thinking about a picture.
12:51Now, in the process of my village,
12:57they were always talking about it.
13:00They said something to me.
13:02So, they were thinking about their ideas.
13:05We have been doing this.
13:07We have been doing this.
13:09What is the capability and what is the capacity and what is the ability to do with the village.
13:16We need to make a picture of the trolley and how much work we can do.
13:22So, Anand, when you came to make up the movie,
13:26have you ever thought that it was the thing that it would change the cinema?
13:33Because he was the first person in the cinema.
13:36No, we all know. We all know. We all know.
13:39We all know. We all know.
13:41Romantic films were made?
13:43Yes, it was romantic.
13:45It was the country.
13:47To give the message to the country and to give the songs.
13:51Yes.
13:52Because it was a documentary.
13:54Yes.
13:55It was a documentary.
13:57It was a documentary.
13:59Yes.
14:01So, it was a big challenge for you.
14:04It was not a challenge.
14:06It was not a challenge.
14:07It was not a challenge.
14:08You don't think of it as a big thing.
14:09No, no.
14:10Just it's a work.
14:11Just do it.
14:12Okay.
14:13So, you have two or three songs,
14:17which were very, very good and very big, big chart busters.
14:21Would you remember anything about how you sat and composed them?
14:25How much time was it?
14:26What was the contribution of it?
14:28What was the contribution of it?
14:29Now, it's like a song,
14:31like Khasmewade,
14:33was the first one.
14:35That was already with you?
14:36Yes.
14:37It was a good song.
14:38It was like a song.
14:39Okay.
14:40It was like a song.
14:41It was like everyone.
14:42Okay.
14:43It was like every song,
14:44it was like a song.
14:45It's like a song.
14:46But you can do it.
14:47It's like the song.
14:48Okay.
14:49You can do it.
14:50Then you can do it.
14:51Okay.
14:52Then you can do it.
14:53It's like the song.
14:54Right.
14:55He told me about Manner Babu, he wanted himself to play a little bit on the technical side of it.
15:07I said, Manner Babu, the skill is above, but the song is soft.
15:12I said, why do you want soft?
15:14He said, I don't want to sing.
15:16I said, the song was inspired by him.
15:20He said, which song is a song?
15:22He said, I will sing my love.
15:24I will sing my song.
15:31He said, you can sing the song.
15:33He was singing the song for the self,
15:35but he didn't talk for someone.
15:37He was saying, yes, yes, yes, yes.
15:40He was singing the song.
15:42He was eating the song and having fun and fun.
15:46He was inspired by him.
15:49Yes!
15:50I mean, there is a problem that we need to do with ease.
15:53Sometimes we need to ease, sometimes we need to ease.
15:56So, this is how to do it.
15:58Manoj ji had a good ear for music?
16:00Yeah.
16:01Okay.
16:02And poetry got a sense of sense.
16:04Okay.
16:05After tuning, one another knows what to do,
16:09what should I do, what should I do,
16:11what should I do, what should I do,
16:13what should I do, what should I do,
16:15which language you like.
16:16In filmy-gaanon, this is also happening.
16:18What a favorite is your voice?
16:22It's supposed to, about this composition.
16:27Public body should have made it all over.
16:29It belongs to life- innocent people.
16:31If we stop, we stay Brother.
16:32He has a song you would.
16:34If you take seineries,
16:35he will teach and teach mosttail- statistics.
16:39Let us try that again under Laudanon.
16:42And our capture on my region can lack their end today.
16:44It's a bit of a color.
16:46So it's going to be a full of the repetition of my country.
16:52Ah, ah, ah.
16:53You can all get this song.
16:55Correct.
16:56Yes, it's just a song.
17:02It's just that you get to know which song is going to come.
17:07What's the rhythm of the tempo?
17:08Everything is perfect.
17:09So if you live in the village,
17:11it's a very good thing.
17:12in the temple, the church is very high,
17:15it's a good use of the temple.
17:17Why go there?
17:19Prasad.
17:20Prasad for?
17:21Okay.
17:22You know,
17:24you can go there,
17:25go there, go there, go there.
17:27What do you do,
17:28what do you do,
17:29what do you do,
17:30what do you do?
17:31What do you do?
17:32That's all.
17:33So, Manojji,
17:34what do you do?
17:35You do,
17:36you do,
17:37you do,
17:38you do,
17:39and you do.
17:40Okay,
17:41you do,
17:42you do,
17:43you do,
17:44you do,
17:45you do,
17:46you do,
17:47you do,
17:48you do,
17:49you do,
17:50you do.
17:51Correct.
17:52Correct.
17:53So,
17:54did you feel that Manoj Kumar,
17:56or
17:57you,
17:58association,
18:00or coordination,
18:02so,
18:03you go to shooting,
18:05what are you doing?
18:06Okay.
18:07Okay.
18:08You go the,
18:10I want to do the Raisman,
18:11I want to say that,
18:12I just do
18:14totally
18:15Because
18:15I am doing it and
18:16I am doing it and
18:17everything was done in me,
18:18everything was done,
18:19so,
18:20everything was done.
18:21Yes, this is something we had to do.
18:23The trolley problems, the problems of us,
18:26many things happen.
18:28It's easy to get everything done.
18:30That's true.
18:31You can put a screen and see it.
18:33A monitor and see it.
18:35And after that, you did the question after 3 years.
18:39That was very challenging for us and very encouraging.
18:43Because we blended both Western Indian.
18:46We blended both in the same way.
18:48And then we did the era.
18:50That's right.
18:51That's the music period.
18:53We had to do everything.
18:55That's right, yeah.
18:56There was a montage.
18:58The girl was here,
18:59and then she was going to go around.
19:02So there was a montage,
19:04for a minute.
19:05I was working on the background.
19:08So I was getting stuck.
19:10I said,
19:11I was going to do everything.
19:13I said,
19:14I didn't understand.
19:15I said,
19:16I was going to do the tabla,
19:17when I was a Muslim,
19:18when I was doing the tabla,
19:20I would not show.
19:21When I was seen,
19:22I would take a picture of it.
19:23And then,
19:24I was going to do it.
19:25And then,
19:26I was going to do it.
19:27Oh, okay.
19:28I said, I can't understand that but I have no guilt.
19:31Correct.
19:32You didn't give me the best.
19:33I have to bring this to me.
19:35The table is in the same way.
19:37So, I have to say that I have to say that I have to say that.
19:42So, in montage, you had to put the instrument that you had to put it in the montage.
19:47First, you put it and you put it all together.
19:49You put it all together and you put it all together.
19:51When you put it all together, the table is started.
19:54Correct. Yeah.
19:55And which one of your favorite is your favorite, Purbur Pashchini?
20:00There are so many chart-buster songs that you can sing.
20:05This is which one?
20:08My name is Bharat, my Bharat, my Bharat, my Bharat.
20:17Okay, correct.
20:19That was done for the album, when the dialogue was done, that Hindustan has zero-zero,
20:25so when they kept the song, they kept the song,
20:29they kept the song, they kept the song,
20:32and they kept the song, and they kept the song.
20:35So that was the start of the song.
20:37That song was our song.
20:39You liked that very much.
20:41That's right.
20:42But that had so many other songs also, very good.
20:45So many songs, but it was interesting.
20:47Personally, you thought that you had something...
20:49No, you did not do it.
20:50Because the story of India,
20:52that there was nothing in India,
20:54that there was nothing in India,
20:56that there was a place in India,
20:58that you can see.
20:59Yeah, yeah.
21:00That's right.
21:01That's right.
21:02That's right.
21:03That's right.
21:04That's right.
21:05That's right.
21:06That's right.
21:07That's right.
21:08That's right.
21:091970.
21:10We are proud that we are lucky to have this kind of a director,
21:13who can do something musical and awakening.
21:16And at the same time,
21:18be so proud of Bharat.
21:20You know?
21:21Continue.
21:22I mean, in those days,
21:24he was the first person, right?
21:26They thought about musicals.
21:29At the beginning,
21:30they said about musicals,
21:31and they didn't say anything about the city.
21:33They thought about the city,
21:34and they didn't say anything about the city.
21:35So slowly, slowly,
21:37it's going to be natural.
21:39Nationalistic.
21:40Nationalistic.
21:41Yes.
21:42Yes.
21:43Yes.
21:44Yes.
21:45Yes.
21:46Yes.
21:47Yes.
21:48Yes.
21:49Yes.
21:50Yes.
21:51Yes.
21:52Yes.
21:54Yes.
21:55As
22:09It is a place where you can write a better story.
22:17You can write a better interview, but you can do that.
22:21That's a suggestion to each other.
22:23Yeah.
22:24Because this is Manojji, I have told him that Shastri Ji was saying,
22:31Jay Javan Jay.
22:33Yeah.
22:34That's how Upkart came about, isn't it?
22:36Yeah.
22:37Yeah, so, the relationship is good.
22:40They had to come and go with Shastri Ji.
22:43That's right.
22:44So you got to meet Shastri Ji at all?
22:48Shastri Ji, we got to meet Shastri Ji.
22:50We are pretty big and rich people, so we can not be happy.
22:54Okay.
22:55Okay.
22:56Is there any other questions about Manojji?
23:04Mano Ji about it.
23:06We used to make a long picture.
23:08We used to make a long picture.
23:10We used to make a very long picture.
23:12We used to make a very long picture.
23:14We used to make a very long picture.
23:16But he wasn't nice.
23:18Okay.
23:20He was a director,
23:22he was an actor,
23:24he was a producer.
23:26He said, Mano Ji, do a job.
23:28What do you do?
23:30You have to change the music character.
23:32You have to change the cameraman.
23:34You have to change the music character.
23:36I said, why not?
23:38As a friend, I can advise you this.
23:40You did not have a problem,
23:42when they were...
23:44No, no.
23:46Today, we were wearing this.
23:48It means that this is good.
23:50We want to change.
23:52So you didn't feel bad when he shifted
23:54after Purubar Parchim.
23:56I was worried.
23:58After recording,
24:00everyone was sitting here.
24:02I was worried.
24:04Okay.
24:05Because there was a little change,
24:06village,
24:07a country,
24:08a little bit away.
24:10Undercurrent was there.
24:12And all these,
24:13all these,
24:14and all these.
24:15Correct.
24:16Correct.
24:17So you didn't feel bad that he shifted.
24:19So you...
24:20But you didn't feel bad that he shifted.
24:22Bad to say,
24:23I mean,
24:24you get the money for the work,
24:25you get the money,
24:26you get the money.
24:27After that,
24:28you don't have a right to do.
24:30You will do everything.
24:31Okay.
24:32Okay.
24:33So you were all right about that.
24:34We were all right about that.
24:35We had temperament,
24:36we had to have novelty,
24:37we had to go and encourage everything.
24:40We had to have the temperament.
24:41Like,
24:42Kalanj Abhai,
24:43that Lakshmi Piyar is our assistant.
24:45They were told to everyone,
24:47we had to have a picture of them.
24:49They said,
24:50they were good work.
24:51They were told,
24:52these boys are very good.
24:53Very good.
24:54They will take them.
24:55They will do good work.
24:56Okay.
24:57So,
24:58when Lakshmi Kan Parallel started singing,
25:00you felt proud that our children…
25:03Yes.
25:04You can't do anything.
25:05You can't do anything.
25:06Everything is destiny.
25:08You can't do anything.
25:09What you do,
25:10you don't have to do anything.
25:11Everyone has a position.
25:13When you come to the world,
25:14you can get to go and run.
25:16We have to do the same era,
25:17when we have a camera,
25:19a video,
25:20everything is all done.
25:21In the first time,
25:22many people work well,
25:24because you never get to the world.
25:26You can't do anything.
25:27There's a lot of people on the world.
25:28You never get to the world,
25:29and you never get to the world.
25:30So,
25:31when you become the last
25:32part of Manojji house,
25:33you have got to the world.
25:34Manojji Quee.
25:35Manojji Quee Saath,
25:36You have got to the world.
25:37Where you became the whole world.
25:38Manojji Quee Saath.
25:40You have got to the world.
25:41Manojji Quee Saath.
25:42This year,
25:43when you came from Manojji,
25:44you had to grow up years.
25:45Many years ago,
25:46it was,
25:47three years ago,
25:48in the end of the world.
25:49Then,
25:50everything was sitting and
25:51it was sitting.
25:52The hero says, you have three songs,
25:55you have two people who are singing,
25:57what will they do?
25:58Then he says, I'll do a duo.
26:00They will do it, and they will do it, and they will do it.
26:02The person was writing, dancing,
26:06costumes, costumes, everything came out.
26:09It was different.
26:10But the songs were 5-6 songs.
26:15But the sessions were coming, and they were coming,
26:17for a song.
26:19So they were getting together.
26:22Yeah, it's a friend.
26:24If you have a shoot and develop a print, you can see it.
26:30You can see it.
26:32It's all gone.
26:34So, when Manoj Ji started working with other people,
26:41was your friend's friend?
26:43Yes, he's a friend.
26:45He's not a friend.
26:47We have two owners.
26:49You've got a new house.
26:52You've got a new house,
26:55and you've got a new house.
26:58You've got a new house,
27:00that's how you're doing.
27:02Okay.
27:03So, those things remain, whether it will be worked or not.
27:06Those things remain, whether it will work.
27:08They don't get a new house.
27:10They don't get any new house.
27:12They don't get any new house.
27:14And they don't get any new house and,
27:17they say, come on, you'll just go and run.
27:20I had to find the same thing.
27:22All these things have been very difficult.
27:24The aim is here in life.
27:25When we're here,
27:26we have to try one-to-one.
27:28We've just lost Manoj Ji.
27:30You just lost Manojji and you have a very long association with them.
27:36So, when did you meet them at the end?
27:39No, I didn't do anything because we were friends.
27:43We didn't do any work, but we didn't do any work.
27:48But we had a lot of trouble.
27:50In a situation, we had a lot of trouble.
27:53We had a lot of trouble.
27:55But he was not giving well or something.
27:58I was trying to avoid it all the time.
28:00Yes, you get it.
28:02Now, it was like 2-3 times.
28:05Not that it happened to me, but when I was working, I would have to get it.
28:11But when I was working, I would have to do something like this.
28:15I would have to discuss some pictures.
28:18We had to discuss the pictures that didn't work.
28:22Yes.
28:23They definitely did it.
28:26If I wanted to go, I would have to go.
28:28Correct, correct.
28:29But if I wanted to go, I thought, what was the reason?
28:31What was the reason for this film?
28:32I was looking at this movie.
28:33Which film is?
28:34Yes, it was a lot of pictures.
28:36Then I would discuss it.
28:37What was the reason for this film?
28:38What was the reason for this film?
28:39So, they say, what do you say?
28:41What do you say? What do you say? What do you say?
28:44So, this is what I say.
28:45That's right.
28:45This kind of thing.
28:46So, that kind of discussion used to go on.
28:49Okay.
28:49Like, if you have any kind of Hindu philosophy,
28:55people don't like it.
28:56Okay.
28:58Okay.
28:59If you have any philosophy,
29:00if you have any kind of Jadugrara,
29:03if you don't do superstition,
29:05you don't like it.
29:06Your faith is fixed.
29:08Okay.
29:09So, Ram has a trust.
29:12Okay.
29:12So, towards the end, you couldn't meet him
29:16because he was not there?
29:17No, unfortunately not.
29:18Yeah. Okay.
29:19All right.
29:19I think that 4-6 months ago,
29:21Shashi Ji's a Vahad,
29:22I said that it was very good.
29:24He was very good.
29:26Okay.
29:27So, I said that he was very good.
29:30I think he was not doing well for a long time.
29:34He was not well for some time.
29:35He was hiding, not meeting anybody.
29:37That's right.
29:38That's right.
29:39So many problems of his life, you know.
29:42Everything.
29:43But you must have really felt personal loss
29:46when he passed away, isn't it?
29:48Of course.
29:49You can't do it.
29:50I think it's hard to do it.
29:51But it's hard to do it.
29:52It's hard to do it.
29:53That's right.
29:54This was my song.
29:56There was a song that I would say.
30:00I didn't ask you about your own words.
30:03How you've been through your nights.
30:05Today, you're my own, my own.
30:08I don't say that.
30:09We went to London.
30:11We were not with India.
30:13We were made a song.
30:14And the girls' life chose me.
30:16I didn't ask you about your own words.
30:19How you've been through your nights.
30:21I asked you, say, I'm your own.
30:23I can't get that song.
30:25Who's that girl is like the third year?
30:27Who would you get?
30:28No.
30:29I don't think I'd get the song.
30:31I can't take that song.
30:33Are you your father?
30:35Who's that?
30:37Okay.
30:38Okay, well.
30:40I've been around for about 4-6 days.
30:42I have said,
30:43what song is I made my song?
30:45I have known.
30:46I said,
30:47I'm not going to do that.
30:49I said, I will not say anything.
30:51I said, listen what?
30:53I said, I said, I don't have to ask any questions,
30:55any questions you've been asked about.
30:57I said, you are my own,
30:59I'm your own. I'll tell you all that.
31:01I said, I said,
31:03I said,
31:05I said,
31:07I said,
31:09I said,
31:11I said,
31:13I said,
31:15I said,
31:17I said,
31:19I said,
31:21I said,
31:23I said,
31:25I said,
31:27I said,
31:29I said,
31:31I said,
31:33I said,
31:35I said,
31:37I will give you that.
31:39That's correct.
31:41That's true.
31:43It was fun.
31:45I have to listen to myself.
31:47I say,
31:49I didn't do my work.
31:51I said,
31:53I don't use my work.
31:55I don't do my work.
31:57I was interested in that.
31:59I went to work with writers.
32:01But they worked so hard.
32:03They worked so hard.
32:05They worked so hard.
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