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00:00You want some NFL talk here, you want some NFL talk in early April, you came to the right
00:04place on the early line on a Tuesday morning, April 1st, 2025.
00:08Donny Wright's out here along with Mark Zinnow.
00:10It is April Fools, which not too many people are going to fall too many times for, you
00:15know, the, you know, hey, haha, it's pretty funny stuff.
00:18You know, I bring this up.
00:19Tiger Woods.
00:20See what he retweeted about me, or tweeted, I should say, about 15 to 20 minutes ago.
00:24Quote, I can't believe I'm saying this, but a few weeks after rupturing my left Achilles,
00:29the sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber, plus the explosive lifts, my doctors and trainers
00:34have me ready to play for the masters next week.
00:36Can't wait.
00:37See y'all on the course.
00:38Now, Mark, if you would have saw that, would you have got really excited that Tigers back
00:43bust out the posters and fire away on the FanDuel Sportsbook for an epic victory for
00:48Tiger?
00:49No, I wouldn't.
00:50Tiger would never get my money.
00:52He's just not at a guy.
00:53He's not at the level of a golfer who deserves my money at this point.
00:57We're not talking about Tiger from 20 years ago.
01:00We're barely even talking about Tiger from 10 years ago.
01:04Tiger right now that steps out on the golf course doesn't have a chance to win, given
01:08the competition and the level that's out there.
01:10So while it's nice for the tweet, and I certainly appreciate it, and it'll draw eyeballs, but
01:14it wouldn't take money.
01:15It wouldn't get my money.
01:16Those are two different things.
01:17Now, I got to get to work on Twitter because I like April Fool's, I should have came more
01:21prepared.
01:22Like Mark Zinno's on the show me this morning, Ben was let go by the network.
01:25April Fool's or not, nobody knows.
01:27Next show I have is Moneyline.
01:28After this, Kevin Walsh probably won't be there again for the ninth out of his last
01:3210 days.
01:33I could have said he got let go by the network.
01:34Like, that's how I should have used my time here on a Tuesday morning by letting people
01:38go on the network at this point.
01:39And by the way, some people, we think some people would have believed that too, Mark,
01:42I believe.
01:43Wait a second.
01:44Where's Ben?
01:45Gotta let go.
01:46Don't realize it's April.
01:47Like, oh man, that's terrible.
01:48So I can play it both ways.
01:49It would have been a good idea.
01:52We could have had a lot of fun with it.
01:56For the first hour of the show, people solidly would have believed that breaking news was
01:59about to happen.
02:00Exactly.
02:01That's what we do.
02:02Breaking news on the early line and away it goes.
02:04Now there is big breaking news today that may be anticipating with rule changes, Mark,
02:09in the NFL and the major rule change on deck is to ban or not ban the tush push in the
02:16NFL.
02:17Ari Miroff sent out a tweet here that says the Texans head coach Demico Ryans on the
02:21Packers proposal to ban the tush push quote.
02:24It's tough to punish a team for being really good at something.
02:28So we'll open the conversation here at this point.
02:30We'll get to some coaches that don't like it, some coaches that like it, a la Nick Sirianni.
02:34But I always find it to myself where you're banning an illegal play as if one team has
02:38an unfair advantage where they got grandfathered in like only on fourth downs.
02:43The Packers can have 16 players on the field because they were able to do that in 1960
02:47and somehow throughout the league years, they're still allowed to do that.
02:51We don't.
02:52Every single team in the league is allowed to do the tush push.
02:54Now the reason why all teams don't do it successfully is because maybe they don't have a strong
02:59enough offensive line.
03:00Maybe you don't have a powerful running back pushing, maybe you don't have a quarterback
03:03that squats 650 pounds, and maybe if an organization goes like, I'm not going to give my quarterback
03:07extra hits, I'm not even going to try it.
03:09But one team is willing to do that and I want to penalize them.
03:12Let's start on that level right now.
03:14The banning of the tush push because some teams don't want to do it, but they're allowed
03:19to do it, but they don't find it to their advantage when somebody else has an advantage.
03:23What do we think about that whole schematically thing?
03:27I mean, the problem with the advantage that the Eagles have and the bills to a certain
03:33extent is that they have the two players you can do it with, right?
03:38Like nobody else, not everybody can do the tush push and execute it in theory.
03:42They could, but not everybody has a 240 pound quarterback who could literally knock a linebacker
03:48on his backside.
03:49Like that's, you know, you're not going to get that from Bryce Young.
03:53You're not going to get that from, from, you know, Jaden Daniels.
03:57You're not going to get that from even Dak Prescott.
04:00Like they just, you know, they're not going to put their quarterbacks in that position
04:04to get injured.
04:05They're not going to do it with Patrick Mahomes, right?
04:07Like they just find other ways to get it.
04:09So not every, all 32 teams have the ability to do it.
04:13And I use the comparison to the torpedo bat, all 30 major league baseball teams can use
04:17a torpedo bat levels, the playing field, but not everybody can do a tush push because
04:21they just don't have the personnel.
04:23Now does that mean I think it should be banned?
04:24No, I don't think it should be banned.
04:26I think it should alter the rules that defenses can push players back, right?
04:30Like that's to me is the fix to this whole thing.
04:34Allow linebackers to push a defensive lineman into the offensive line, but then we're going
04:38to sit here and play this player safety card.
04:39Well, if it's player safety for the offense, it's got for the defense, it's got to be player
04:43safety for the offense.
04:45So you don't have to get rid of the tush push.
04:47You just even have to figure out something where all 32 teams can do the exact same thing
04:50on both sides of the ball and it solves the problem.
04:53So again, I think there are teams that are whining a lot about this because they can't
04:58figure out a way to stop it.
04:59Here's the other thing.
05:00Guess what?
05:01Like, you know if you play better and all the other aspects, the tush push is one play
05:07that only materializes itself on like one down in one situation, third and one fourth
05:13and one, that's it.
05:14So kind of either figure out a way to stay out of those situations or here's a crazy
05:19idea.
05:20Get a lead.
05:21The Eagles won't be doing the tush push all that much if they're trailing by 15, right?
05:26Like that kind of negates that whole concept.
05:29So yeah, you know, you could try to figure out a way to beat them in every other aspect
05:33of the game.
05:34And also we love offense.
05:36Like we're not too far away, Mark, where teams were routinely punting on fourth and a half
05:39yard at the plus 37 yard line.
05:42Oh, too risky at this point.
05:43Let's pin them inside the five.
05:45It sort of keeps drives together longer and adds extra opportunity for scoring, which
05:48we do like.
05:49Now we're going to take a look from an approach where, you know, Sean McDermott of the Buffalo
05:53Bills.
05:54I've always found interesting in this because sometimes they look, I have a quarterback
05:56that can do the, you know, sneak at some points here.
05:59It didn't work out all that well in the playoffs for them, but he's worried about injuries
06:03and the injury situation, even though he readily admits I don't have any injury data to back
06:07it up and nobody really gets injured on this play, but I'm worried about injuries on this
06:10play.
06:11Let's take a look at Sean McDermott talking about the tush push here.
06:13I've done, you know, I've, I've, I've dove deeper into more of the data on it and, um,
06:21you know, just thought more about it as well.
06:22And my, my position hasn't really changed at all.
06:25Um, you know, I feel where I'm most concerned is, uh, even though there's not significant
06:32data out there to this point, my, my biggest concern is the health and safety of the players.
06:37Um, first and foremost, what are you seeing?
06:41Yeah.
06:42I mean, I think anytime you get in, it's two things, it's, it's force, added force, number
06:51one, and then the posture of the players, um, you know, being asked to execute that
06:57type of play.
06:58Uh, that's where I, that's where my concern, um, comes in.
07:01Do you think you'll continue to run the play if it remains and you have concerns about
07:05the safety?
07:06Will you continue to run it?
07:07Because I think you ran it quite a bit last week.
07:09A form of it, right?
07:10A form of it.
07:11So I, I think that's a, it's a loose term really in terms of what, what, uh, defines
07:16a, a, a push push.
07:18Um, so, uh, you know, so there's, there's different forms of it out there.
07:24I know we are one of the teams that people identify that run it, uh, that's fair.
07:29Um, you know, there's other teams as well.
07:31So I just look, we're going to, we're going to always act in a way that's best for the
07:35health and safety of the players.
07:37And I think that's the responsible way to go.
07:40By the way, my first takeaway from that was not actually what he was talking about in
07:43the tush push.
07:44Can we get a side-by-side on Sean McDermott and Freddie Roach, the legendary boxing trainer?
07:48Identical.
07:49Like they're twins right now, as I just saw.
07:51What he was talking about here, Mark, was banning the tush push based on injuries where
07:56nobody gets injured on the play.
07:58How about that?
07:59Yeah.
08:00You know, again, I mean, the, the Bill's tush push was equally as successful.
08:06It worked in the playoff game.
08:07The officials said it didn't.
08:09That's the reality of it.
08:10I mean, you know, it's not like that play got stopped.
08:13That was the first down.
08:14I think we all know that at this point in time, it doesn't mean the bills would have
08:16won that game, but you know, the rest got that call wrong.
08:19Um, and that's, that's the sad part too.
08:22We're having the wrong conversation about the tush push.
08:24We need a chip in the football.
08:26We don't need the tush push.
08:27Like that's how you figure this whole thing out where you start to stop it.
08:30And it's not just some melee in the middle that the officials can't find the ball on.
08:34So, uh, we're having the wrong conversation here as well.
08:37Yeah.
08:37Let's just get a new strength coach in the building.
08:39How about that?
08:40To improve your tush push there from your quarterback and your center and your
08:42offensive line.
08:43It happens.
08:44People, Mike, you're on deck.
08:46Talk some Steelers football next.
08:49Oh, it's nice to talk football here early in the month of April.
08:52Yes, it is.
08:53April fools.
08:53It is April 1st, 2025.
08:55It's Mark Sandoz.
08:55Donny Wright said no April fools on this show here.
08:57We're bringing the straight facts to you directly, even if the NFL coaches aren't
09:02giving us the straight facts like Sean McDermott saying, let's ban the tush push.
09:05Cause people get injured.
09:06I don't really know if they get injured, but it just sounds like they might get
09:09injured in the future.
09:09Let's do away with it.
09:10Now it brings up the Pittsburgh Steelers who seem like they have the easiest
09:13decision in the room.
09:14Well, we purposely didn't sign a real quarterback, quote unquote, in the
09:18off season because our expectations are we want Aaron Rodgers.
09:21He doesn't really have anywhere to go, Mark, but the Pittsburgh Steelers.
09:25But for some reason, he might drag this out for another month or two while he
09:29tries to make his decision.
09:30Let's just start here.
09:32The thoughts on Aaron Rodgers to the Pittsburgh Steelers does what for you?
09:37I mean, I, it's sad to say it's probably the best quarterback that Arthur Smith
09:43has had is an entire play calling career, uh, which is 42 year old Aaron Rodgers.
09:49But, you know, again, I don't know that it really elevates them all that much.
09:54Um, you know, Aaron Rodgers didn't play poorly last year, right?
09:57Like he didn't play great, but he certainly didn't play poorly.
10:00And he's not the sole reason why the jets weren't successful by any
10:03stretch of the imagination.
10:04Um, his numbers tell you that and everything else.
10:06I still think he could play.
10:08I don't know if it, you know, puts them in a position to be the
10:10division winner of the AFC North.
10:12I don't think that's the case, but again, I still think Aaron Rodgers would
10:16rather play in Minnesota, uh, in the NFC than have to go to Pittsburgh and play
10:22against Lamar, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and everybody else.
10:27Yeah.
10:28It's a much easier path to a deep playoff run in the NFC than it is in the AFC.
10:33So I think we're all going to sit here waiting until the Vikings decide whether
10:37they want Aaron Rodgers or they don't.
10:39And the minute they say they don't, Aaron Rodgers will call up the seals and go,
10:42okay, I'm ready to go play, play in Pittsburgh.
10:43Now that's what this, that's how this whole thing plays out.
10:47And that's what it's waiting on right now is the Vikings to make a
10:50decision if they want Aaron Rodgers.
10:53Mike Tomlin likes to say the standard is the standard when the standard right now
10:56is they can't find a quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger retired at this point.
11:00Now we do have some video here coming up with Mike Tomlin, where he
11:02explains the process of, yeah, I'm comfortable without a quarterback.
11:06How about that?
11:08Um, he's a free agent.
11:09Um, as you guys know, um, he came to visit last Friday.
11:12We had a really productive day.
11:14Um, he's been in this thing a long time.
11:16I've been in this thing a long time, but it's no substitute for, you know,
11:21intimacy and spending time together and getting to know one another, um,
11:25in a non-competitive environment.
11:27Um, and so that was really good.
11:28Um, but I don't have any new updates in terms of where the process is.
11:32We'll see where it leads us.
11:33How unsettling is it or is it to not have this situation?
11:38I'm really comfortable with being unsettled this time of year, to be quite
11:41honest with you.
11:42Um, it's about talent acquisition.
11:45We got two means of main means of acquiring talent free agency in the draft.
11:50Uh, we multitask, uh, we do both, um, those, those needs that we fulfill in
11:56free agency.
11:57Uh, we do so there.
11:58And when we don't, we fulfill it in the draft.
12:00And so I just learned over the years that this, this time of year, although,
12:04you know, day to day, it can be somewhat uncomfortable.
12:07Um, it is a process.
12:10You don't even need a lie detector test mark to understand this.
12:13Is he lying?
12:14Look, sweating bullets talking about, he's not worried about his quarterback
12:18situation.
12:19It looks like he's more worried than anybody in the history of professional
12:22football of who his quarterback might be.
12:24How about that?
12:26Yeah.
12:26The, uh, the, the, the profuse sweating wasn't necessarily a great look.
12:30My thought, maybe there was some bright lights there from cameraman and
12:33everything else causing him a little bit of a extra, but you can't, I mean, look,
12:39there's a difference between I'm comfortable with uncertainty at this time
12:42of year, and I'm comfortable with Mason Rudolph as my starter, that that's the
12:47bold face lie.
12:48I'm not, no one's comfortable with Mason Rudolph starting 17 games.
12:52So they can say that, but we all know that's a lie.
12:54And that's not true because we know Mason Rudolph is not a starter in this
12:58That's the reality of the whole situation.
13:00So, um, are they comfortable with it?
13:03They're going to be as comfortable as they can get until after the draft and
13:07then OTA start showing up and they want their quarterback in there.
13:10That's where you start to get this, you know, uncomfortable.
13:12That's where the comfort becomes discomfort is because when you want to
13:16start building things and getting your season ready, you need your starting
13:19quarterback in the building.
13:21Yeah.
13:22You're more confident right now in the Pittsburgh Steelers.
13:23You can head over right now to the fan blue sports book at that wind total.
13:26Listen at eight and a half.
13:28How about the AFC North championship?
13:29Plus five 50.
13:30How about the AFC title?
13:3221 to one and to win a Superbowl 44 to one price.
13:36Now I'm gonna hit you with this angle, Mark, because we talk about like
13:38the Pittsburgh Steelers waiting.
13:40What is Aaron Rodgers actually waiting for at this point right now?
13:44Like, why has he not committed to the Steelers?
13:46Where it's from as good as you can get, right?
13:49Good defense, good offense team.
13:50That's used to being over 500 looking for a quarterback.
13:53You're a quarterback.
13:53They want you.
13:55What is Aaron Rodgers waiting for right now?
13:58The Minnesota Vikings playing indoors, playing with Kevin O'Connell, playing
14:02with a high level offensive team.
14:05I mean, look, I, if you go to Pittsburgh versus Minnesota, which
14:11division they're both tough division, which ones you think is more likely to win?
14:16I think, I think, I think it's the Vikings.
14:18I think they're, they're closer to winning the division.
14:20The Steelers are, but they've already told you at this point, right?
14:24The Vikings are like, no, we're going with the young kid.
14:26Now understand this too, because the dichotomy does change at this point.
14:29Like J.J.
14:30McCarthy is there.
14:30If, if we're really taking Kevin O'Connell at his, you know, word,
14:35they're telling Aaron Rodgers, Hey, wait, I love this kid.
14:39We drafted him in the top half of the first round, but if he
14:42stinks during two OTAs, I'm going to come sign you for big money.
14:46You'd be our starter.
14:47It's something I miss in Minnesota that I'm like completely out on where
14:50they love J.J.
14:51McCarthy to the point where they don't even think he can play in the NFL.
14:54Like, what am I missing here?
14:56You're missing the fact that he's coming off a torn ACL and that he's still not
15:00physically going to be a hundred percent.
15:02And it's tough for quarterbacks.
15:03So for torn ACL, who have been, wasn't an ACL.
15:08It kills those injuries.
15:10Yeah.
15:10He was, it was in the recon like meniscus.
15:13Let's just say it was like an eight week injury.
15:14Like, okay, we're not going to rush you back this year.
15:16So he's perfectly healthy at this point.
15:18Okay.
15:19Well, I mean, again, he hasn't played.
15:21A snap in the NFL.
15:23So you got a guy coming off an injury, never having played a snap.
15:27There's a lot of questions there.
15:28I mean, you know, I think the Vikings are more about, do we want to disrupt what we
15:33have?
15:34Do we want to change the locker room culture?
15:35Do we want to do all these things?
15:37Um, in favor of, you know, bringing Aaron Rodgers here, as opposed to going with a
15:42rookie, they sold on Sam Donald.
15:45They knew they had to have a current backup plan.
15:47I don't know that J.J.
15:48McCarthy's they're putting all their eggs in the basket.
15:51Like Donald didn't even get a lot of money per se on the NFL landscape for a true
15:55starter here.
15:55Why would Minnesota just keep him there?
15:57Only to say we want Aaron Rodgers, who's aging at this point.
16:00We don't like Jake McCarthy.
16:02What's going on, Minnesota?
16:03I'll tell you what's going on.
16:04We're talking more football next, right here on The Early Line.
16:07Headlines, people, headlines in the NFL.
16:10Look, you know, the NFL, it's 12 months out of the year.
16:12It's 365.
16:13It's all that good stuff baked in.
16:15The owners meetings today, which we're going to find out sort of what's approved,
16:19what's not approved.
16:21Maybe some more coaches talking this morning.
16:22We'll get some of those leaks to come out here.
16:24The Giants, they can't afford any leaks at this point, Mark.
16:27Why?
16:27Because they leaked all their information in the offseason, on hard knocks offseason.
16:31Embarrassed themselves to the point where no NFL team will ever do that again because
16:34of how bad the Giants looked.
16:35Congratulations.
16:37Now, the Giants had the world in the palm of their hand late in the season, where all
16:41they had to do was say, you know what, Brian D'Abel, I'm going to bring you back next
16:44year.
16:45Joe Shane, GM, I'm going to bring you back next year.
16:48Here's what I need coming from Mara's perspective.
16:49You can't win any more games.
16:51We want the top pick here.
16:52Then we'll have the entire choice of the draft to make the right decision about our
16:55future.
16:56The Giants were stupid enough to actually get some gumption and knock off the Colts,
17:00which now lands them the three spot instead of the one spot.
17:03It may be a two quarterback draft, if even a two quarterback draft, as opposed to Cam
17:06Ward going number one overall.
17:08So the Giants go, hey man, we're not going to force a quarterback selection at number
17:13three.
17:13Genius general manager, Joe Shane.
17:15How about that?
17:18Yeah, again, I've said it repeatedly that December 29th, 2024, uh, not only is a date
17:26that will change the trajectory of the New York Giants franchise, but maybe even the
17:30NFL, depending on what some of these young players, uh, turn out to be particularly
17:36Cam Ward and Shadur Sanders, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, whatever it may be.
17:40But that'll be a day that the, the NFL and the Giants history took a turn that went in
17:46a completely different direction because, well, we had a 10, we had a franchise long
17:5010 game losing streak and we had to snap it because why not?
17:55Uh, yeah, well, I can't even get into it.
17:59Just, uh, I'm going to get very upset still earlier in the morning.
18:01That said, the Giants are now in the third spot.
18:05If they take a quarterback in the draft after signing James Swenson and signing
18:09Russell Wilson, like it is the ultimate, you know, they have, they have become the
18:13ultimate punching bag for an organization.
18:16You see this yesterday, DRS for an organization that has been in the dumps for
18:2110 years now, they signed a quarterback who said, he's looking for more giggles.
18:26That's what James Swenson talked about in his press conference.
18:29Let's have more giggles.
18:30This is the NFL, not kiddie daycare.
18:32I don't need giggles.
18:33I need wins.
18:35Okay.
18:35Bring me winds and then I'll start giggling.
18:38Bring me to the playoffs.
18:39Then I'll start giggling.
18:40This franchise has become an embarrassment.
18:43They really have become a joke in the NFL.
18:47I'll tell you like different franchises.
18:49They're never going to tell you how they handle it.
18:50I understand a big part of why Gerard Mayo is out of New England.
18:54Cause you want a football game late in the season.
18:55I honestly believe that like, it's up to your ownership group to command
18:59and convey like what you want.
19:00Now, theoretically, it's probably unethical.
19:01Like I need you guys to lose this, but if you know, the Mara family came down
19:05or John Mara comes down and just goes, Joe Shane, Brian D'Abel, you're coming
19:10back next year, don't feel the pressure to win any of these games.
19:12You know what I'm saying to you right now?
19:14Whereas when you play well, you know, players don't tack.
19:16No, they don't.
19:16But you know what happens here?
19:17When Brian D'Abel goes, all right, no audibles in this game.
19:19Uh, Drew Locke, uh, third and 19.
19:22Oh, we really need this to extend the game, hand the football
19:24off to a fullback up the middle.
19:26That's how you do it at that point.
19:27Right.
19:28Or you just say, Drew Locke, set this one down.
19:30Tommy Cutlets is going to start this game and that solves the whole problem.
19:34Tommy Cutlets, go play your heart out.
19:36We're still going to lose by 30 cause you're terrible and don't belong here.
19:40Oh, it's so simple where the organization just mess things up.
19:43And then the Titans find themselves at the top here.
19:45Now, another polarizing individual, which really shouldn't be that
19:47polarizing it's Brock Purdy, a solid quarterback in the NFL, but I'm
19:51telling you right now, you see some people say, pay him at the top scale,
19:55$60 million a year, and then an equal amount of people pay him $15 million a
20:00year, because we don't think he's all that much.
20:02I can't wait to see when this deal gets done.
20:03But the reason why it's taking so long and so many years is I don't think
20:07anybody knows exactly where that payslide is here for him, Brock Purdy.
20:12But what is he actually worth?
20:16I mean, listen, I don't think either one of the quarterbacks I'm going to
20:21mention are worth the contracts they got, but Trevor Lawrence and Jordan
20:24Love got deals that I think Brock Purdy would feel like he is, he is worth.
20:31Uh, I don't think Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence are worth
20:33either one of those deals.
20:34I think they were both awful deals for quarterbacks who had proved nothing.
20:37Brock Purdy's at least gotten to a super bowl, right?
20:40Like, you know, uh, he has that in his back pocket.
20:44That said, I don't know if the Niners feel like they need to be tied to him.
20:49I still have it in the back of my head that at some point in time, a trade
20:52materializes with the 49ers who cleared out a ton of cap space and a ton of
20:57salary to bring Kirk back to coach with Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco.
21:04I think, I think there's a, a world where that trade could materialize,
21:08but, um, I'm probably on an Island on that one.
21:11I just don't know what they're waiting for at Purdy.
21:13If they would have wanted them that badly, they would have signed them already.
21:17Maybe the best rookie contract in the history of professional sports.
21:20It was like 775 K man.
21:22And they couldn't win without it.
21:23We'll see what happens.
21:24We're NFL talk next, then some college basketball news and notes,
21:28including just a few moments here.
21:29We'll break it.
21:29Some breaking news from the NFL before that other hot topics here.
21:32We'll get to the point now where I guess it's advantageous Mark, where
21:36you have a quarterback or a high level player on your team that you just
21:40continually rip up their contract every one to two years to resign them,
21:45to lower the cap of understanding.
21:47You're going to save money because the cap continuously goes
21:50higher on a year to year basis.
21:52The reason I bring that up is the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson
21:55looking at another extension, fresh off of an extension right now.
21:59Normally Mark, I'd say that's crazy, but just in the NFL landscape at this
22:02point, where you sign a player now, and in two years, he's worth like
22:05triple that amount, maybe signing them sooner than later repeatedly
22:09is a new business practice in the future of the NFL.
22:13I mean, you're starting to see a little bit of it in baseball with
22:16them buying out arbitration, right.
22:18For guys that they really feel like have hit.
22:20Um, and it ends up saving them a lot of money and ends up being
22:23fiscally responsible for them.
22:26You're starting to see that now, I think in the NFL, where once guys
22:30get through that third year, they're willing to extend them given how
22:33quickly and exponentially the cost of players is going up, particularly
22:37at certain positions.
22:38Um, and again, you know, I use this conversation with the giants and all
22:42the mess that they have that no one's really thinking about Malik neighbors.
22:46They're stud rookie, uh, who continues to be another success story as wide
22:49receivers coming out of LSU.
22:52You've given him a bad quarterback.
22:53His first year, you're going to give a bad quarterback, his second year,
22:56and you're probably going to be on the third quarterback, his third year.
22:59What's the reason for him to stay?
23:01Like, unless you throw him a whole big bag of money after three years ago,
23:04you're our guy, you're going to be the biggest part of our offense for
23:07the next five to seven years.
23:09You're not helping keep that guy around, but it's advantageous for the
23:12giants to do so with a guy like Malik neighbors, because by all accounts,
23:17after one year, he's already popping off the screen as one of
23:20the top receivers in the NFL.
23:22Yeah.
23:22I mean, it's just, it's interesting to see how the NFL landscape and
23:25obviously the contracts are changing where it's like more at, again, you're
23:29supposed to make, Hey, sign up to a great deal, whoo, saved over the next
23:31five years, and that's not the case anymore at this point, because of how
23:34much money and the salary cap is going up here.
23:36Also, one of the final sticking points, this isn't an April fool's joke.
23:39Woody Johnson calls his F grade from the NFL PA bogus, because I guess he
23:45blamed his son brick for his, he's really running the team and got the F
23:49and not Woody Johnson.
23:50So Woody Johnson's going to step in and say, you know what, I'm better
23:53than the F grade that I got.
23:56Are you, uh, you know, look F and the jets seem to be synonymous, uh, whether
24:04it's about the PA, whether it's about the player in the field, whether it's
24:08about their postseason success, whether it's about their NFL draft history.
24:11I mean, it feels like a lot of Fs.
24:14That's all I know.
24:16Yeah, it really does feel like a lot of Fs for the Jeffs.
24:18It make the playoffs.
24:19Maybe you get these C's B's and A's because the players are happy to actually
24:23show up to work as opposed to getting beat down every single year.
24:27But we do have breaking news in the NFL.
24:28As we told you from the owner's meetings, a lot of things do break.
24:31Some signings will happen, but also rule changes.
24:33The first one we'll go over Diana Rossini retweets here or tweets out.
24:37The NFL will now allow both teams to possess the ball in overtime, but still
24:41only have a 10 minute overtime.
24:43Be like an NBA.
24:44Hey, let's get the opening tip and overtime.
24:46Oh, look, Milwaukee won it.
24:47Giannis laid it in game over.
24:49Like that's not fair.
24:50We want a chance to have the basketball.
24:52We want a chance to have the football.
24:53So at least the NFL is saying we'll make it a little bit more easy in overtime
24:57for the team that doesn't win a coin toss to actually get the football.
25:00Mark your thoughts on that.
25:02I hate the NFL's overtime.
25:04It gets worse and worse with every mistake they make.
25:07Stop the whining and just play defense.
25:12It's that simple.
25:14Play football.
25:15It's flat out whining.
25:17It's not fair.
25:18I didn't get a chance to touch the ball.
25:19It's not fair.
25:20Play defense.
25:22We whine about everything that we don't win within the NFL.
25:25It's all it is.
25:26It's a bunch of baby stuff.
25:28It's soft.
25:29It's Charmin.
25:30It's weak.
25:31It is.
25:32It's just ridiculous.
25:33How about you just play some defense?
25:36Is that okay?
25:37Is that novel concept?
25:38Something that bothers people?
25:41Such a joke.
25:42The NFL is just, they're a laughable joke with their nonstop rule changes in
25:47overtime, flip a coin, play ball, grow a pair, deal with life.
25:52Football's tough.
25:53Wear a helmet.
25:54I'm done with this crap.
25:56No football stuff.
25:57We don't wear helmets around here.
25:58Mark, let's go back to the leather heads out there.
26:01Knocking it around.
26:02You got it.
26:02No way.
26:03You know, I need the football in overtime.
26:04I need it.
26:05I can't lose to a coin.
26:07If it was a skills competition where I was like, you know what?
26:10We're just going to throw the football up in the air with 10 guys on each side.
26:13And the, whoever gets the football gets it.
26:15I might live with that at point.
26:16Cause you had a chance technically, just like an NBA.
26:18If you tip it off, even though I don't agree with it, you still have a chance.
26:21The coin flip leaves you rendered out.
26:24Hey, I don't get the football.
26:25I lost the game.
26:26What am I supposed to do?
26:27So I can't buy into that at that point, but I do agree.
26:30There's a chance otherwise, because when they had the coin flip, the team
26:34that won the coin toss only won the game 52% of the time, and that was
26:38over like 25 years worth of data.
26:40Since they've gone to this new stupid overtime, the team that wins the
26:43coin toss is winning close to 70% of the time.
26:46So take your data and do whatever you want with it.
26:49Go play ball and play defense.
26:52If you'd like the ball back, go stop somebody.
26:55Well, you just said now they 70% of the time, the team that wins
26:58the coin toss wins overtime.
26:59So that's the advantage.
27:00You're trying to take that away.
27:01No, like you win a point to us.
27:03You win overtime.
27:05No, no, no.
27:05It used to be close to 50% when you just did sudden death,
27:09when you did it real simple.
27:11Okay.
27:12Let's go back to sudden death.
27:13Flip a coin, play ball, end of the conversation.
27:16First team to score wins, end it.
27:18That's it.
27:20I mean, I mean, your events morph into college overtime.
27:24That's what the NFL is going to go towards.
27:26They want that stupid system that is in football.
27:29They're eventually going to end up with that because you're going to get
27:33some college overtime, college overtime is all over time.
27:37Awful.
27:37It's at least it was, you got to in rhythm and then it turns into the
27:40two point conversion show, which is hilarious.
27:42Another thing that has passed, get ready, Mark, more replays, expanded
27:47replay assist has also passed here.
27:49So get used to, you know, college basketball in the final minute,
27:52excruciating, maybe the NFL will do the same thing, but the NFL, I do
27:55like expanded review, but I don't really know the details of actually what
27:59they're going to be able to expand the room because from there, my knowledge
28:01is you can't review the penalties that weren't called.
28:04So we all get angry.
28:05Like he just tackled him by his face mask.
28:08Wasn't called no big deal.
28:09Review.
28:09Can't save you on that.
28:12I mean, you'll never, you'll never get me to change from the Bill Belichick camp.
28:17At this point, all penalties should be reviewable.
28:21A coach should be able to use one of his two challenges on anything.
28:24You're not making the game any longer.
28:26You have two challenges in a game.
28:28If you'd like to use it on a random holding call in the first quarter,
28:31knock yourself out coach.
28:32If you'd like to wait for a miss face massing in the fourth quarter of a
28:35game, then go ahead and do it.
28:36You get two challenges.
28:38You can use them on a penalty.
28:39That's the end of it.
28:40Like there at this point, the coach should be able to coach the game and
28:44manage it for his team and say, Hey, you missed that one.
28:48I want it reviewed.
28:49Plain and simple.
28:50All penalties should be reviewable.
28:53All the way at this point too, where like the, the replay it's the expanded
28:57replay, the reason why we like it is like we see a play on the TV in real
29:00time and we go, Ooh, I don't think that was right.
29:03And then they get buzzed down the earpiece, move that football
29:06back to the 45 yard line.
29:07That's the correct spot.
29:08And they put it there.
29:09One thing I will never understand, which I do understand it myself,
29:12because it's a business more replays me.
29:14We can go to commercials and that's where we can fit those in, which is
29:16ridiculous for the home audience and the people in the stands that
29:19don't want that to happen.
29:20But for me, if we just never had the ref going over and taking a look,
29:24like all intents and purposes, like we joke about like Ben's TV on the
29:27wall, like looking at Ben's 17 inch TV or six inch TV, as opposed to just
29:32saying we have an entire fleet of people with 80 inch plasma L you know, LCD
29:38screens that can make this decision quickly.
29:40I know even in college football, when they do it, it upsets me more.
29:43Hey, send the ref to the side of the field with a little like monitor to be
29:47like, Ooh, I guess it was a fumble and then go call it back.
29:50That's what I hope for here.
29:51Take it out of the ref's hands on the field and just buzz them when
29:54a play needs to be changed.
29:55That's it.
29:56That's all I need.
29:57Here's the only problem.
29:58The NFL is given no parameters of when replay assist is allowed.
30:02When did they decide that they want to get involved in a play versus when they
30:06don't, which is, and because there's no parameters, you're leaving it up to
30:09the subjective view of one individual who's not on the field to go, maybe we
30:15should buzz down and let them know about this.
30:17No, that that's ridiculous.
30:19That's the ridiculous part.
30:20It shouldn't be up to anybody other than the coaches on the field to decide
30:24when an extra replay is needed.
30:27I see.
30:28There we go.
30:29So the opinions are out there in mass.
30:30We'll probably get some more rule changes as the show goes, which includes
30:33when are they voting on the tush push?
30:36Will it be banned or not banned at this point?
30:38We'll certainly be able to find that out.
30:39And if it does happen, we'll bring that breaking news to you.