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00:00The court is now in session.
00:02Rodrigo Ruan Duterte.
00:12Vice President Sara Duterte questioned the evidence of the prosecution in the International Criminal Court
00:18for the case of Crimes Against Humanity against her father.
00:22From The Hague, Netherlands, Mariz Omal is live on the spot.
00:27Mariz?
00:31Yes, Connie Magala.
00:32It's 6 o'clock in the morning here in The Hague, Netherlands.
00:35The field of former President Rodrigo Duterte is not in his hands.
00:39The first evidence that was used by the prosecution in the International Criminal Court against him has already reached 181.
00:47This is far from the so-called Crimes Against Humanity.
00:51But the International Criminal Court said earlier that even one case is enough to prove the crime against humanity.
01:01Even though the prosecution still has a deadline to submit evidence to the ICC,
01:06they have already submitted 181 evidence to the Pre-Trial Chamber One last week.
01:13The field of Duterte is not in his hands.
01:16There is no case to begin with.
01:18That's what he said.
01:19But of course, the lawyers know the process inside the ICC.
01:26He, inside, says it as well, that we will do what the rules and guides are inside the ICC.
01:40Vice President Sara Duterte added,
01:42what is 181 compared to the thousands of people killed in the war on drugs under her administration?
01:50181 pieces of evidence and they say thousands.
01:55This is a case of crimes against humanity.
02:00So if you only have 181 pieces of evidence, does that show a crime against humanity?
02:11So where are the 30,000 pieces of evidence?
02:17This is not a case for the ICC.
02:21These were not even cases in the Philippines.
02:26So I feel like it became a case because of the portrayal of the media in the war on drugs.
02:39And that was just the title,
02:41when the government's job was to put illegal drugs inside the country.
02:49It's like, it's not even comparable to an 80-year-old man.
02:55But what the International Criminal Court is saying is different.
02:58The legal framework is that a crime against humanity can be a murder,
03:04can be any other number of criminal conducts,
03:07but if they are committed in the context of a widespread or systematic attack against a civilian population,
03:14according to a certain plan.
03:16So if there is a plan that involves a widespread or systematic recurrent attack against civilian population,
03:24even one murder may be considered a crime against humanity.
03:28You have to prove that there were 30,000 victims.
03:34So how can you prove systematic killing of 30,000 victims,
03:41if you do not have the names of 30,000 victims?
03:46Really, truly, we can't do anything in the media,
03:51but I can see in all the articles, war on drugs, killing thousands,
03:57and yet we have 181 pieces of evidence.
04:00And we don't even have 50 victims.
04:07This is 43 counts of murder, not even 50.
04:13So where is the system there of killing thousands?
04:18No, you don't, no, sorry.
04:22Their lawyer is stupid.
04:24If that's the case, then I invite VP Sara to come forward to the ICC,
04:30and say her argument.
04:33Let's see if she will listen.
04:36In our studies, and VP Sara is also a lawyer,
04:40in our studies, this crime is not similar,
04:45or you can't compare it to a simple murder case.
04:49I understand that under Philippine jurisdiction,
04:53murder, if you look at it according to the elements,
04:58you need to name the victim.
05:01In Crimes Against Humanity, you do not need to name all the victims.
05:06According to VP Sara,
05:08their camp is already thinking about filing an interim release.
05:12I understand that is one of the items that the lawyers are thinking about,
05:21and discussing.
05:23But the details of that, you need to ask the lawyer.
05:27They continue to form a defense team for the father.
05:30We are waiting for the papers coming from the ICC.
05:38So we're waiting for the papers of two more lawyers,
05:43and then we're currently recruiting one more lawyer.
05:49Excluding the Filipino lawyer.
05:52Finally, former President Duterte Rao will make a decision regarding his lawyers.
05:57Because he's the client,
05:59so what's happening is,
06:03there's a lawyer,
06:05then we're having a vet,
06:07background checking, vetting,
06:09and then I'm interviewing,
06:11and then I'm asking President Duterte,
06:14can you consider this,
06:17and then he's talking,
06:20and then they're talking,
06:22and then he's deciding.
06:24The relationship is within them,
06:26lawyer-client relationship.
06:32Connie, thank you very much to the former President Rodrigo Duterte,
06:36and to all the supporters,
06:38for continuing to pray for his release,
06:41and for him to return to Davao City.
06:43So that's the latest news from The Hague.
06:47Back to you, Connie.
06:48Thank you very much, Maryse Umali.