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00:00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I welcome you to Shahan-e-Sahoor, how are you?
00:00:10How is your life going?
00:00:12I always roam around with my wife, kids, husband and family
00:00:18and even today my topic is something like this
00:00:21Kids these days have become so smart
00:00:24We get surprised at their every single act
00:00:29We say, are these our kids?
00:00:31No, we were not like this in our childhood
00:00:33There is a reason for that, they have social media
00:00:35They have the whole world on their mobile or iPad
00:00:39And they run from one place to another
00:00:42They know the importance of technology
00:00:50That's why sometimes they dance on our heads
00:00:52You don't know, we know
00:00:54You don't speak, we don't know
00:00:56We used to hear a lot about our parents
00:00:58Do you remember?
00:01:00Whatever our parents said is like a stone line
00:01:02If you don't want to go to your friend's house, don't go
00:01:04If you don't want to take this subject, don't take it
00:01:06If this doesn't cook in the food, it won't cook
00:01:10If you don't get food from outside, you have to eat this
00:01:12There are a lot of things that we used to listen to our parents
00:01:17Our kids are not like that
00:01:21We tried a lot to keep them disciplined
00:01:25But they know more than necessary
00:01:27And the reason for that is
00:01:29They don't listen to us
00:01:31But let me tell you, the new generation
00:01:33Research says
00:01:35Kids who listen to their parents more
00:01:42They are successful in life
00:01:44Because they know everything
00:01:46But they don't have the experience that their parents have
00:01:49They say, hair is not white in the sun
00:01:52On the basis of experience
00:01:54How many times have we failed
00:01:56And how many times have we learned things
00:01:59We are careful
00:02:01And then regret that why did we make this mistake
00:02:03But we have learned from those mistakes
00:02:05Vice versa, our parents
00:02:07No matter how much we know
00:02:10We used to tell our parents
00:02:12What do you know?
00:02:13But they knew
00:02:15We realized this after we became mature
00:02:17And this is what I will tell the kids
00:02:19No matter what
00:02:21The world is in your hands
00:02:23But still
00:02:25We have more experience than you
00:02:27That's why
00:02:29One big reason to be successful
00:02:31Is that you listen to your parents
00:02:33Yes, they are not angels
00:02:35But they are the people
00:02:37Who have seen the world twice as much as you
00:02:41And if they are teaching you something
00:02:45Learn to understand them
00:02:47Today
00:02:49I have a mother
00:02:51Who is the mother of a celebrity
00:02:53Who may not have appeared on screen
00:02:55In an interview
00:02:57And she is the brother of that celebrity
00:02:59So I have that generation
00:03:01Who belong to a family
00:03:03Who have got all the freedom in life
00:03:05To do this, to do that
00:03:07But still
00:03:09How they have been disciplined
00:03:11Today we will know from them
00:03:13And learn from them
00:03:15That for a successful daughter
00:03:17Or a successful son
00:03:19What should be in their hands
00:03:21I will go to my guest
00:03:23My lovely Fatima
00:03:25Assalam-o-Alaikum
00:03:27Today Fatima
00:03:29You have worn a lovely colour
00:03:31Thank you so much
00:03:33Gharara is my favourite
00:03:35I don't know why
00:03:37Gharara is such a comfortable
00:03:39Dress
00:03:41But for that
00:03:43You have to be comfortable
00:03:45Because you have to wear short shirts
00:03:47I think Gharara is a dress
00:03:49Which suits all types of people
00:03:51I like it
00:03:53Like if you are a little bulky
00:03:55You can wear a loose shirt
00:03:57I have made a shirt with plates
00:03:59Which is very beautiful
00:04:01I have a lot of Gharara
00:04:03I can work in the kitchen
00:04:05Wearing Gharara
00:04:07I can do the dishes
00:04:09I can take care of the kids
00:04:11I have made Gharara
00:04:13I have a lot of Gharara
00:04:15My mother taught me
00:04:17My mother gave me Gharara
00:04:19At my wedding
00:04:21She made a lot of Gharara
00:04:23Wow
00:04:25So Fatima
00:04:27You can make Karahi in Gharara
00:04:29What are you making for our guests
00:04:31As you said
00:04:33Our guests are very special
00:04:35They have come from far
00:04:37They are very dear to me
00:04:39I am very happy to meet them
00:04:41It was my wish
00:04:43That you fulfilled
00:04:45Eid is very near
00:04:47We are talking about customs
00:04:49We are talking about elders
00:04:51We are ending some traditions
00:04:53In the food
00:04:55Like the potli style
00:04:57Which was made with Yakhni Pulao
00:04:59In the olden days
00:05:01I will make it in Mutton
00:05:03And instead of potli
00:05:05You will use steel
00:05:07You can add cloves
00:05:09And take it out
00:05:11It is very easy
00:05:13You can make it in potli
00:05:15You can add all the spices
00:05:17And when the Yakhni is ready
00:05:19You can stain it
00:05:21I do this
00:05:23It is very easy
00:05:25But the Punjabi style Yakhni Pulao
00:05:27We will make that
00:05:29And with that
00:05:31Karachi street style Karahi
00:05:33I am making it
00:05:35I will tell you the whole recipe
00:05:37People make mistakes in spices
00:05:39They don't get that flavor
00:05:41I will teach you that
00:05:43It is very easy
00:05:45We will give them Karachi style
00:05:47And after that we will go to Middle East
00:05:49And we are making Kunafa Delight
00:05:51Oh my God
00:05:53Amazing
00:05:55I thought I will give a complete package
00:05:57Because Eid is coming
00:05:59Everyone's problems
00:06:01It is not necessary to make Sheer Khurma
00:06:03You can make Kunafa
00:06:05With vegetables
00:06:07And Kunafa is a big hit
00:06:09And I will make it
00:06:11So that everyone can make it
00:06:13Amazing
00:06:15We will take a short break
00:06:17After the break our guests will be with us
00:06:19We will talk to them
00:06:21Many people's favorite celebrity guests
00:06:23Are present with their family
00:06:25One member of the family is less
00:06:27Because a few years ago
00:06:29They left this world
00:06:31Celebrities come here with their family
00:06:33Because family is everything
00:06:35Everything else is here and there
00:06:37Shani Sahoor
00:06:39Welcome
00:06:41Welcome back
00:06:43You are watching Shani Sahoor
00:06:45Before I introduce my favorite guests
00:06:47To you
00:06:49I want to tell you something
00:06:51We don't joke with our viewers
00:06:53We don't have a joke relationship
00:06:57When we said
00:06:59That an astronaut
00:07:01Has crashed in Pakistan
00:07:05Now even the people of Karachi
00:07:07Have seen it with their own eyes
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00:07:11This is Zai's style
00:07:15Surprising and adventurous
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00:07:19If we are talking about surprise
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00:09:51This was our very important conversation
00:09:53And now our important guest
00:09:55I am introducing you
00:09:57To your favorite Nadia Jameel
00:09:59With her family
00:10:01But before that
00:10:03Who we love so much
00:10:05And whom we appreciate for their talent
00:10:07They worked so hard
00:10:09And got this position
00:10:11Let's see the package
00:10:13Nadia Jameel is a famous actress in Pakistan
00:10:15She is busy with
00:10:17Human rights
00:10:19You are known for your
00:10:21Outstanding acting
00:10:23Characters and
00:10:25Outstanding work
00:10:27Nadia Jameel made her mark
00:10:29Not only in television
00:10:31But also in theater
00:10:33You started your career
00:10:35In 1990
00:10:37In your popular plays
00:10:39Putligar, Dhoop mein Sawan,
00:10:41Behad, Damsa, Mere Paas Paas
00:10:43In your plays
00:10:45You get to see depth and realism
00:10:47You are not only a great actress
00:10:49But also a courageous
00:10:51And fearless woman
00:10:53Who is working for the betterment of the society
00:10:55Today Nadia Jameel
00:10:57Is with her family
00:10:59She is the guest of Shahan-e-Sahoor
00:11:01So let's welcome
00:11:03Today Nadia Jameel
00:11:05Is bringing her mother
00:11:07For the first time
00:11:09To our show
00:11:11And her lovely brother
00:11:13Umar Fazal Jameel
00:11:15And her cute daughter
00:11:17Noor Jameel
00:11:19Welcome to them
00:11:21Assalam-o-Alaikum
00:11:23Assalam-o-Alaikum
00:11:25Ramzan Mubarak
00:11:27Assalam-o-Alaikum
00:11:29We have to meet every year
00:11:31On Eid
00:11:33Assalam-o-Alaikum
00:11:35Thank you so much
00:11:37Assalam-o-Alaikum
00:11:39This is for you
00:11:41And this is for you
00:11:43Thank you so much
00:11:45Thank you so much
00:11:47Please have a seat
00:11:49Hello, how are you?
00:11:51Please have a seat
00:11:53How are you all?
00:11:55Alhamdulillah
00:11:57Thank you so much for taking the time
00:11:59And giving us the opportunity
00:12:01To do the interview
00:12:03I always request them
00:12:05And I like you a lot
00:12:07I keep seeing you
00:12:09On their Facebook page
00:12:11And your talks
00:12:13Nadia must have hiccups
00:12:15We are very close
00:12:17Very close
00:12:19Since childhood
00:12:21Do you come to Karachi often?
00:12:23We come
00:12:25My mother comes a lot
00:12:27I come very rarely
00:12:29I am from Lahore
00:12:31Do you have any relatives in Karachi?
00:12:33I have relatives but I love Karachi
00:12:35Really?
00:12:37For how many days do you come?
00:12:3910-15 days
00:12:41And what attracts you to Karachi?
00:12:45Karachi is the only
00:12:47Cosmopolitan city of Pakistan
00:12:49I think
00:12:51Here you find
00:12:53All kinds of people
00:12:55People from every part of Pakistan
00:12:57And
00:12:59Karachi has a big heart
00:13:01Like the heart of the sea
00:13:03It attracts everyone
00:13:05Your mother has a lot of friends here
00:13:07Yes
00:13:09As soon as Nadia came to this field
00:13:11A different face
00:13:13A beautiful
00:13:15Flawless skin
00:13:17Eyes
00:13:19She took all the good features of her parents
00:13:21And the secret
00:13:23Of her beauty
00:13:25Came to me
00:13:27People used to tell me
00:13:29Since childhood
00:13:31Your mother is so beautiful
00:13:33So beautiful
00:13:35You are just like your father
00:13:37My father was also very beautiful
00:13:41But the pictures of your youth
00:13:43I have seen them
00:13:45And we have shown them on the screen
00:13:47Wow
00:13:49Have you ever thought
00:13:51That I should come in front of the screen
00:13:53And do some modeling
00:13:55Such a beautiful face
00:13:57Never
00:13:59What happened in your life
00:14:01I was an activist
00:14:03I was an activist from the beginning
00:14:05I was always busy
00:14:07And life was rough
00:14:09Activists are like this
00:14:11They don't know
00:14:13What is happening with them
00:14:15Not tough
00:14:17But in the sense
00:14:19There was no time for other things
00:14:21There was no time for clothes
00:14:23Or fashion
00:14:25There was no time for these things
00:14:27Sunidha will not talk about herself
00:14:29But she struggled a lot
00:14:31I think Nadia will also agree with me
00:14:33That when we were young
00:14:35And growing up
00:14:37You see
00:14:39We were children in the 80s
00:14:41At that time my mother was very involved
00:14:43For the restoration of democracy
00:14:47She was very involved
00:14:49In the women's action forum
00:14:51She was very involved
00:14:53With the labor unions
00:14:55What is the percentage of quality
00:14:57That you see in your children
00:14:59I think
00:15:01100%
00:15:03100%
00:15:05Right
00:15:07Did you ever think
00:15:09When Nadia was a teenager
00:15:11That your qualities would come in her
00:15:13Nadia
00:15:15I think with time
00:15:17She is becoming a mini Nussi
00:15:19Like you
00:15:21Did you ever think
00:15:23Anger is also a quality
00:15:25Not anymore
00:15:27Not anymore
00:15:31As a mother
00:15:33And as a brother
00:15:35What changes did you see in Nadia
00:15:37When Nadia was a teenager
00:15:39Early days, then marriage
00:15:41Now
00:15:43When I
00:15:45Introduce new people to Nadia
00:15:47One thing that has not changed
00:15:49But I always say about Nadia
00:15:51She is a force of nature
00:15:53In nature
00:15:55There is spring
00:15:57Flowers bloom
00:15:59There are storms
00:16:01There are hurricanes
00:16:03She has given a good example
00:16:05Both things
00:16:07Both things
00:16:09Mother is right
00:16:11With age
00:16:13There is a lot of patience
00:16:15There is a
00:16:17Calmness
00:16:19I think all her friends
00:16:21Will agree
00:16:23That
00:16:25Passion is there
00:16:27But
00:16:29There is a calmness
00:16:31Tell us about her childhood
00:16:33What kind of a girl was she
00:16:37Do you see her
00:16:39In her children
00:16:41She was naughty
00:16:43She was shy
00:16:45She was a performer
00:16:47She was an actor
00:16:49Since childhood
00:16:53We have a family video
00:16:55Of Nadia's childhood
00:16:57I will be one year old
00:16:59Nadia will be 2-3 years old
00:17:01And
00:17:03Father bought a new video camera
00:17:05In those days
00:17:07It was a projector camera
00:17:0916mm
00:17:11He is taking a video of Nadia
00:17:13And me and mother
00:17:15There was a mic
00:17:17He said give it to me
00:17:19I said I can't
00:17:21It will break
00:17:23He said give it to me
00:17:25I didn't get it
00:17:27He said give it to me
00:17:29Third shot
00:17:31Full performance
00:17:33Full performance
00:17:35And then
00:17:37Growing up
00:17:39All my cousins
00:17:41All my cousins
00:17:43All of them were with us
00:17:45My aunt's daughters
00:17:47My uncle's sons
00:17:49We were together in the morning
00:17:51We used to go to school together
00:17:53We used to spend weekends together
00:17:55And Nadia
00:17:57Often
00:17:59She would do dramas and plays
00:18:01At home
00:18:03All the kids used to play
00:18:05At home
00:18:07We used to
00:18:09Make a film story
00:18:11And
00:18:13There were a lot of stories
00:18:15But there was always a standard
00:18:17Formula
00:18:19One brother, one sister
00:18:21They get separated in childhood
00:18:23Some rich kid
00:18:25Gets adopted by some rich parents
00:18:27Some poor parents
00:18:29Then they grow up
00:18:31And coincidentally meet
00:18:33And the whole story
00:18:35Was choreographed
00:18:37Who used to make the story?
00:18:39The whole story
00:18:41Screenplay, roles
00:18:43Every kid had their own role
00:18:45There were lines and characters
00:18:47Now you had to perform
00:18:49And not for anyone
00:18:51Just for yourself
00:18:53Since childhood
00:18:55We used to say play at home
00:18:57It's a very advanced level
00:18:59Very advanced
00:19:01We found your
00:19:03Picture of youth
00:19:05I would like to share with people
00:19:07Who are watching
00:19:09A film star
00:19:11Left everyone behind
00:19:13What a feature
00:19:15Don't miss it
00:19:17Everyone say Mashallah
00:19:19Nadia, praise your mother
00:19:21Mother was 16
00:19:23Father was 18
00:19:25Mother was 16
00:19:27Father was 18
00:19:29And under a tree
00:19:31Father was sitting
00:19:33And he saw a girl
00:19:35A girl with green eyes
00:19:37And he decided to marry her
00:19:39She is telling your love story
00:19:41Mother didn't give him any lift
00:19:43She didn't have any interest
00:19:45Then father befriended
00:19:47Aunt and mother's younger sister
00:19:49They were roaming around
00:19:51They were roaming around
00:19:53And they were also
00:19:55Common family friends
00:19:57Isn't this the tree?
00:19:59This is the tree
00:20:01If you go to Nida
00:20:03Nida
00:20:05I think
00:20:07In 2014
00:20:09We went back
00:20:11When he was 50
00:20:13We went there
00:20:15And his initials were
00:20:17NJJJ64
00:20:19My goodness
00:20:21Such a proper film story
00:20:23Full
00:20:25You have also gone there
00:20:27And your father has also gone
00:20:29There they love each other
00:20:31And then that love of 16 and 18
00:20:33What happens after that?
00:20:35You made your sister your friend
00:20:37Through your sister you reached your mother
00:20:39Then you reached your mother
00:20:41Then it happened that
00:20:43His good fortune was
00:20:45That I got admission in
00:20:47Connecticut College
00:20:49So
00:20:51I came to boarding
00:20:53I was from Rawalpindi
00:20:55So from there
00:20:57I came to Connecticut College
00:20:59You know that
00:21:01It was a very strict college for girls
00:21:03So
00:21:05My husband
00:21:07Was not there at that time
00:21:09His name was Jaleel
00:21:11And he used to say live
00:21:13He went to London
00:21:15On vacation
00:21:17And brought a walkie-talkie
00:21:19There were no phones in those days
00:21:21So there was a walkie-talkie
00:21:23He gave one to me
00:21:25Which I kept in the hostel
00:21:27Whenever he got a chance
00:21:29He used to say hello
00:21:31And talk
00:21:33Why?
00:21:35He was caught
00:21:37One day
00:21:39One day
00:21:41We were sleeping
00:21:43It was a hot summer day
00:21:45We were sleeping on the roof
00:21:47I was talking on the phone
00:21:49I was talking to the walkie-talkie
00:21:51I was talking to the walkie-talkie
00:21:53A hostel warden came
00:21:55In those days all were English
00:21:57He asked what are you doing?
00:21:59So I said nothing
00:22:01Just talking
00:22:03You said I am listening to the cricket commentary
00:22:05So when they took you to the principal
00:22:07You said
00:22:09I was listening to cricket
00:22:11Yes
00:22:13The principal said
00:22:15You were listening to cricket
00:22:17Tell me the score
00:22:19Mom didn't even know
00:22:21The team score
00:22:23So you were expelled from the hostel
00:22:25After that
00:22:27She had a double life
00:22:29She shifted to Nani Sarwat
00:22:31Where she used to meet
00:22:33Aiz and Abbu
00:22:35Nani Sarwat was your aunt?
00:22:37She was Nani's best friend
00:22:39So from the hostel
00:22:41To your aunt's house
00:22:43She still lives there
00:22:45So there was a social wall
00:22:47Between mom and dad
00:22:49Or there was no social wall
00:22:51Not at all
00:22:53They loved each other for 4 years
00:22:55Then they got married
00:22:57Did they have a relationship?
00:22:59Yes
00:23:01Total opposites
00:23:03Both families
00:23:05And among themselves
00:23:07Families were very different
00:23:09Like how?
00:23:11Mom's family was Rajput
00:23:13Army
00:23:15My grandfather was in the army
00:23:17Discipline
00:23:19Abbu's family
00:23:21Was Punjabi?
00:23:23Affluent
00:23:25They were rich
00:23:27They had factories
00:23:29Painting factories
00:23:31So
00:23:33My father
00:23:35Realized
00:23:37That they were different
00:23:39In status
00:23:41But they were not Rajput
00:23:43Because this was the first time
00:23:45They were getting married
00:23:47So there was a social wall
00:23:49So this happens
00:23:51When a rich family gets married
00:23:53You get scared
00:23:55What will happen?
00:23:57But they were very different
00:23:59They loved to travel
00:24:01They loved to meet people
00:24:03They loved to go out
00:24:05Abbu
00:24:07Was very homely
00:24:09He wanted to sit in his house
00:24:11This is my scene
00:24:13This is my environment
00:24:15Library, TV, sofa
00:24:17Introverted
00:24:19Dogs
00:24:21He hated animals
00:24:23When you meet two different people
00:24:25They were beautiful
00:24:27But when they have kids
00:24:29They fight
00:24:31Because
00:24:33Someone
00:24:35Becomes like a husband
00:24:37What did you do?
00:24:39He was very handsome
00:24:41He was 6 feet tall
00:24:43I was 6 feet tall
00:24:45You saw his beauty
00:24:47He saw your beauty
00:24:49Two different people
00:24:51But your personalities were very different
00:24:53I remember
00:24:55Only one fight of his
00:24:57Yes
00:24:59I still remember
00:25:01Nadia was 17
00:25:03I was 15
00:25:05Abbu and Ammi took us
00:25:07On a trip to Europe
00:25:09Everything was planned by Ammi
00:25:11Abbu had two plans
00:25:13One was to buy a car
00:25:15He bought a sports convertible
00:25:17We will drive it to Europe
00:25:19This was his concession
00:25:21When we went to Venice
00:25:23In Venice
00:25:25Abbu booked a 6 star hotel
00:25:27Which was outside Venice
00:25:29Lido Island
00:25:31Ammi said
00:25:33There is no question
00:25:35I want to be in the middle of Venice
00:25:37In the center city
00:25:39Abbu's mother was shocked
00:25:41Abbu said
00:25:43I have booked an amazing 6 star hotel
00:25:45Ammi said
00:25:47I want to be in Venice
00:25:49Ammi won
00:25:53Two different people
00:25:55You never had
00:25:57A fight in your life
00:25:59No
00:26:01My family was very good
00:26:03I adored my mother-in-law
00:26:05I was very close to my mother-in-law
00:26:07I used to sleep with my mother
00:26:09Abbu had a very close relationship
00:26:11With his grandmother
00:26:13I was very close to my mother
00:26:15You were very close
00:26:17He used to sleep holding her hand
00:26:19Till his last breath
00:26:21On his 50th birthday
00:26:23He wrote a poem for her
00:26:25A 16 year old little girl
00:26:29This is a picture of you
00:26:31He was always singing to her
00:26:33He was always singing to her
00:26:35He was always singing to her
00:26:37Abbu was a practical
00:26:39Talking Sufi
00:26:41He was religious
00:26:43He used to do wazifa
00:26:45He used to do wazifa everyday
00:26:47He used to do salam on Thursday night
00:26:49He used to do wazifa
00:26:51Nadia
00:26:53When you are such a romantic couple
00:26:55As a parent
00:26:57When you look at your parents
00:26:59Your standards
00:27:01Increase
00:27:03The spouses who will come in your life
00:27:05Because your parents
00:27:07Are your ideal
00:27:09Then you have a lot of expectations
00:27:11That this is how life will be
00:27:13Nadia is lucky
00:27:15Because she got Ali at the age of 15
00:27:17She got Ali at the age of 15
00:27:19Nadia is very lucky
00:27:21Nadia is very lucky
00:27:23There were a lot of fights between me and Ali
00:27:25There were a lot of fights between me and Ali
00:27:27It was not a religious relationship
00:27:29It was not a religious relationship
00:27:31There were a lot of fights
00:27:33I was not tolerant
00:27:35But
00:27:37I think
00:27:39It became a problem for us
00:27:41That this is a standard
00:27:43And we both
00:27:45In search of that standard
00:27:47We did injustice to others
00:27:49We did injustice to others
00:27:51Because it is a difficult thing
00:27:53A person like Abbu
00:27:55My mother is tolerant
00:27:57But my father
00:27:59He was not angry
00:28:01He was not angry
00:28:03He was not angry
00:28:05He was not restless
00:28:07So
00:28:09When you look at your parents
00:28:11Boys
00:28:13They look for a quality like their mother
00:28:15They look for a quality like their mother
00:28:17And girls
00:28:19They look for a quality like their father
00:28:21I have a question for both of you
00:28:23What is the quality in your mother
00:28:25That you tried to find in your spouse
00:28:27Let me tell you
00:28:29Beauty
00:28:35My ex-wife
00:28:37We still have a close relationship
00:28:39She told me
00:28:41I told her to come
00:28:43She had a close relationship with her father
00:28:45So
00:28:47She is beautiful
00:28:49But her nature is similar to her mother
00:28:51Very similar
00:28:53Wow
00:28:55What did you see
00:28:57When I think
00:28:59In Ali and Abbu
00:29:01Ali is the name of her husband
00:29:03Yes
00:29:05Abbu is my Jaleel
00:29:07In Ali and Abbu
00:29:09One thing
00:29:11Ali gave me a lot of space
00:29:13To be whoever I want to be
00:29:15We never had the permission
00:29:17And I saw
00:29:19Abbu always
00:29:21Both of them
00:29:23Ali and Abbu gave me a lot of space
00:29:25Subconsciously
00:29:27I don't know
00:29:29I don't know
00:29:31I tell young people
00:29:33I tell young people
00:29:35I tell young people
00:29:37I tell young people
00:29:39I think
00:29:41After the age of 30-40
00:29:43After the age of 30-40
00:29:45I don't like to travel
00:29:47I don't like to travel
00:29:49I don't like to travel
00:29:51There is no corner of the world
00:29:53Where I didn't go alone
00:29:55Nicaragua, Zimbabwe
00:29:57Tanzania
00:29:59I don't know where
00:30:01Afghanistan
00:30:03In 1988
00:30:05In 1988
00:30:07When the Soviet Union was occupied
00:30:09Russia was in Afghanistan
00:30:11This is a very interesting story
00:30:13Mother and father went together
00:30:15Mother was working in the newspaper
00:30:17Frontier Post
00:30:19Mother was a managing editor
00:30:21Their publisher
00:30:23Was a very close friend of mother and father
00:30:25Rehmat Shah Faridi
00:30:27He took them
00:30:29To his
00:30:31To his village
00:30:33To his village
00:30:35I think he lives in Fata
00:30:37I think he lives in Fata
00:30:39At that time
00:30:41Mother said
00:30:43Torkham is
00:30:45One step away
00:30:47It's just a hop away
00:30:49Let's cross the border
00:30:51Father said
00:30:53There is a war going on
00:30:55There is a war going on
00:30:57I am not going
00:30:59He said okay
00:31:01He left
00:31:03He spent the whole day in Afghanistan
00:31:05He spent the whole day in Afghanistan
00:31:07I wish I knew the photographs
00:31:09I wish I knew the photographs
00:31:11Mother was brave
00:31:13Mother was brave
00:31:15Father was not afraid
00:31:17Father was not afraid
00:31:19Father was not adventurous
00:31:21Father was not adventurous
00:31:23Father was spiritually adventurous
00:31:25His adventure was spiritual
00:31:27His adventure was spiritual
00:31:29There was no social barrier between mother and father
00:31:31There was no social barrier between mother and father
00:31:33I will come back after the break
00:31:35I will come back after the break
00:31:37I will ask if Nadia and Ali had a social barrier
00:31:39I will ask if Nadia and Ali had a social barrier
00:31:41I will ask if Nadia and Ali had a social barrier
00:31:43Welcome back
00:31:45You are watching Shahane Sahoor
00:31:47With Nadia Jamil's brother
00:31:49Mother and her little daughter
00:31:51Mother and her little daughter
00:31:53Why are they so talented?
00:31:55They have learned a lot
00:31:57Before I show the videos
00:31:59Before I show the videos
00:32:01To show how Nadia and her little daughter
00:32:03To show how Nadia and her little daughter
00:32:05Look like
00:32:07I will ask Nadia a few questions
00:32:09I will ask Nadia a few questions
00:32:11Is Nadia emotional as a daughter
00:32:13Is Nadia emotional as a daughter
00:32:15Or
00:32:17Is Nadia emotional as a mother
00:32:19What do you think?
00:32:21Was she emotional as a daughter
00:32:23When she was angry
00:32:25Or now?
00:32:27After becoming a mother
00:32:29She was very calm
00:32:31She was very calm
00:32:33She was very calm
00:32:35She was very calm
00:32:37She was very good
00:32:39She was more emotional as a daughter
00:32:41She was more emotional as a daughter
00:32:43Yes
00:32:45And
00:32:47When her sons were born
00:32:49She was very calm
00:32:51After birth
00:32:53How is she in her studies?
00:32:55How is she in her studies?
00:32:57She is brilliant
00:32:59She is brilliant
00:33:01I do not doubt her intelligence
00:33:03Did she score good marks in exams?
00:33:05Did she score good marks in exams?
00:33:07I didn't have a heart, I didn't have a mind, so I threw her out of school, threw her out of school every day, expelled her today and then kept her.
00:33:18The day she got married, her headmistress was telling me, thank God she's married now.
00:33:30Why? I don't know.
00:33:32Why did this happen?
00:33:34Mom and dad used to go to school once or twice a month.
00:33:40And I was the opposite.
00:33:42And you were a brilliant student.
00:33:44I was a straight A teacher's pet.
00:33:46Top of the class.
00:33:48Opposite, opposite.
00:33:50They say sons are a nuisance, here the daughter was a nuisance.
00:33:52She was a rebel.
00:33:54She was a rebel.
00:33:56Because she was admitted to the convent.
00:33:58It was a very strict school, a very strict environment.
00:34:02And she was also a rebellious type.
00:34:06A person who lives in chains.
00:34:08Not at all.
00:34:10You can't push her.
00:34:12So I put her in the convent.
00:34:14I'll allow her to go to the convent myself.
00:34:16Don't tell these stories.
00:34:18Poor convent.
00:34:20I did a lot.
00:34:22What did you do?
00:34:24There was a double period.
00:34:26I used to go straight to the door.
00:34:28I used to tell Akram to wait outside.
00:34:30I was a driver.
00:34:32I used to go to my best friend's house and eat aloo paratha.
00:34:34I used to get it made for my friends.
00:34:36I used to bring it from Banoji's house.
00:34:38Did your parents know?
00:34:40My parents didn't know anything.
00:34:42They used to know when I was being thrown out of school.
00:34:44When you were caught.
00:34:46They used to know when I was caught.
00:34:48We were very innocent.
00:34:50They used to put up posters.
00:34:52Yes, they used to put up posters.
00:34:54In the nunnery.
00:34:56When the teacher took off his shoes,
00:34:58they used to put up posters and slugs.
00:35:00And you didn't do anything like that?
00:35:02No.
00:35:04Your house was a mess.
00:35:06But when you were caught,
00:35:08what were the punishments?
00:35:10Everyday.
00:35:12Every week.
00:35:14How much punishment?
00:35:16All my attendance in Nadia's school.
00:35:18You used to get grounded.
00:35:20You're grounded.
00:35:22I remember this.
00:35:24I was 12-13 years old.
00:35:26You weren't grounded.
00:35:28You were gated.
00:35:30You couldn't get out of the house.
00:35:32You were grounded for a month.
00:35:34Isn't this a punishment?
00:35:36No.
00:35:38Have you ever been beaten?
00:35:40Not really.
00:35:42Not really.
00:35:44No?
00:35:46No.
00:35:48But there was a lot of mischief.
00:35:50A lot of mischief.
00:35:52What was their way of pampering you?
00:35:54I've never been pampered.
00:35:56My father used to pamper me.
00:35:58My father used to pamper me.
00:36:00My father used to pamper me.
00:36:02I don't know how to pamper.
00:36:04How did she pamper you?
00:36:06She used to pamper me.
00:36:08Your father was expressive.
00:36:10He used to hug you.
00:36:12He used to hug you.
00:36:14And you were a very practical mother.
00:36:16Like my mother.
00:36:18Was she very stubborn?
00:36:20I was very stubborn.
00:36:22I was very stubborn.
00:36:24But she couldn't show it.
00:36:26Your love is different.
00:36:28Your love is different.
00:36:30Was she very stubborn?
00:36:32Was she very stubborn?
00:36:34Was she very stubborn?
00:36:36I don't know.
00:36:38I don't know.
00:36:40I don't know.
00:36:42I don't call it stubborn.
00:36:44I think it was her personality.
00:36:46I think it was her personality.
00:36:48I don't think she was stubborn.
00:36:50She was a free spirit.
00:36:52She was a free spirit.
00:36:54She was a free spirit.
00:36:56Did she make any demands?
00:36:58Did she make any demands?
00:37:00Did she make any demands?
00:37:02She didn't make any demands.
00:37:04She didn't make any demands.
00:37:06Because she wanted full freedom.
00:37:08Because she wanted full freedom.
00:37:10At that age.
00:37:12At that age.
00:37:14That battle went on.
00:37:16That battle went on.
00:37:18She got married.
00:37:20She got married.
00:37:22She got married.
00:37:24She got married.
00:37:26I wanted certain discipline.
00:37:28I wanted certain discipline.
00:37:30I wanted certain discipline.
00:37:32I wanted certain discipline.
00:37:34Nadia wanted freedom.
00:37:36Nadia wanted freedom.
00:37:38Nadia wanted freedom.
00:37:40Nadia wanted freedom.
00:37:42Nadia wanted freedom.
00:37:44Nadia wanted freedom.
00:37:46So that's why you..
00:37:48So that's why you..
00:37:50I was 16.
00:37:52But I knew.
00:37:54I knew.
00:37:56I tried my best.
00:37:58I tried my best.
00:38:00You asked to introduce her to a boy.
00:38:02I asked to introduce her to a boy.
00:38:04I knew that a long time ago.
00:38:06I knew that a long time ago.
00:38:08Nadia was 17-18 years old.
00:38:10Nadia was 17-18 years old.
00:38:12And two and half years later I found out.
00:38:14Did you meet him in school?
00:38:16Nadia's friend
00:38:18Ali is my friend's brother's best friend
00:38:20Ohh
00:38:22So through a friend
00:38:24I still remember when I met Ali for the first time
00:38:26On the road?
00:38:28I remember so clearly
00:38:30His friend was Meher
00:38:32Ali is Meher's brother also
00:38:34And Ali's best friend
00:38:36My brother-in-law Ali
00:38:38And he
00:38:40I don't remember where I met him
00:38:42I remember when we had a room together
00:38:44At that time
00:38:46Nadia and I had a room together
00:38:48Actually it was a big room
00:38:50Which was divided into two small rooms
00:38:52So Nadia came home
00:38:54And she brought a poster
00:38:56There was a movie
00:38:58There was an actor called Matthew Broderick
00:39:00She brought his picture
00:39:02It was Project X
00:39:04I still remember so clearly
00:39:06It was a Project X movie
00:39:08You put a big poster of him
00:39:10He had a similar face
00:39:12And he was such a handsome guy
00:39:14He was a high swimmer
00:39:16And he was so handsome
00:39:18I didn't even talk about his personality
00:39:20I didn't talk about it
00:39:22I have seen them together before marriage
00:39:24I remember so clearly
00:39:26So much
00:39:28He was so beautiful
00:39:30And Ali was also
00:39:32Very cool
00:39:34He was aloof
00:39:36Very cool
00:39:38Cool
00:39:40Yes
00:39:42Yes
00:39:44So he
00:39:46Shared his love story
00:39:48With his brother
00:39:50Very close
00:39:52He was my partner in crime
00:39:54And we are only 2 years apart
00:39:56You are 2 years younger than him
00:39:58So
00:40:00We are very close
00:40:02And then
00:40:04When finally
00:40:06I got to know about Ali
00:40:08How did you get to know?
00:40:10Did you get caught?
00:40:12No, I told you
00:40:14It's a different story
00:40:16We got permission
00:40:18To talk
00:40:20And visit
00:40:22But I went to a party
00:40:24I went for a drive with Ali
00:40:26Shaheen squad came there
00:40:28We are talking about your father
00:40:30Shaheen squad came
00:40:32They took us to the police station
00:40:34I said I don't want to call my father
00:40:36Ali said I don't want to call my father
00:40:38I called Yusuf uncle
00:40:40He was there
00:40:42Imran uncle
00:40:44Yusuf uncle
00:40:46Imran Khan
00:40:48Yusuf Salaudin
00:40:50All of them came to the police station
00:40:54I will tell you later
00:40:56When my parents got to know
00:40:58About Ali
00:41:00Ali and Nadu were not allowed to go out alone
00:41:02Okay
00:41:04My parents said okay
00:41:06You can go out
00:41:08You can go for a drive
00:41:10You can go for a drive
00:41:12You can go for a drive
00:41:14But you have to take Umar with you
00:41:16Security
00:41:18I think
00:41:20I was 15 years old
00:41:22You were 17
00:41:24They got to know
00:41:26Then
00:41:28They took you with them
00:41:30I told them
00:41:32Either I will break the walls like my friends
00:41:34Or
00:41:36Let me meet them
00:41:38For ice cream
00:41:40They were sitting in the middle of the road
00:41:42Everywhere
00:41:44They took me to Shazan
00:41:46To eat Tutti Frutti
00:41:48They took me to GoGo
00:41:50Didn't you take any bribe?
00:41:52I asked them to leave me at home
00:41:54I asked them to leave me at home
00:41:56They didn't want to take any risk
00:41:58They didn't want to take any risk
00:42:00If you were with them that day
00:42:02The police would have caught you
00:42:04Why did you leave them?
00:42:06The whole village got to know
00:42:08I put my foot down
00:42:10I put my foot down
00:42:12I put my foot down
00:42:14I put my foot down
00:42:16After that
00:42:18When both the families met
00:42:20Was there any restriction?
00:42:22No restriction
00:42:24A little bit
00:42:26At that time
00:42:28You were young
00:42:30A young boy
00:42:32At that time
00:42:34They didn't have confidence
00:42:36That an actor will come home
00:42:38Because my family was very liberal
00:42:40And you were in acting
00:42:42Full on
00:42:44You didn't come in acting in 15 years
00:42:46Ali's family didn't know
00:42:48When Ali's family got to know in 20s
00:42:50I came in acting
00:42:52At the age of 13
00:42:54You were in acting from childhood
00:42:56Yes
00:42:58From childhood
00:43:00Acting was my love
00:43:02You told Ali that you didn't steal
00:43:04Yes
00:43:06My father told me
00:43:08Your freedom is a treasure
00:43:10God has given it to you
00:43:12I have kept it safe
00:43:14Don't let anyone
00:43:16Take it
00:43:18With your will
00:43:20Whatever boundaries you put on your freedom
00:43:22Think before you put
00:43:24You will have to
00:43:26Make compromises
00:43:28But do it yourself
00:43:30And
00:43:32I knew I wasn't doing anything wrong
00:43:34But
00:43:36It was difficult to convince
00:43:38Ali's parents
00:43:40Because you used to act
00:43:42Even now
00:43:44Many people
00:43:46Actress, model
00:43:48Film star
00:43:50When I got married
00:43:52And came home
00:43:54My father-in-law
00:43:56Actually became my best friend
00:43:58He used to ask
00:44:00Why aren't you acting
00:44:02Why aren't you getting scripts
00:44:04First
00:44:06Sit with your mother-in-law
00:44:08And discuss
00:44:10He got
00:44:12Confidence
00:44:14He got confidence
00:44:16That his reputation is in his hands
00:44:18No matter what field
00:44:20No matter what profession
00:44:22His reputation is in his hands
00:44:24Ali never had a problem
00:44:26Even after marriage
00:44:28Ali never had a problem
00:44:30He is a chill guy
00:44:32If I call Ali
00:44:34And tell him I am going to Nicaragua for 3 weeks
00:44:36He will say okay
00:44:38Bye
00:44:40You get sugar
00:44:42Like he manifested
00:44:44And he got freedom
00:44:46Mashallah
00:44:48You got married
00:44:50After marriage
00:44:52You acted
00:44:54You had kids
00:44:56You had 2 sons
00:44:58Then you disappeared
00:45:00When kids grew up
00:45:02And you went out to study
00:45:04You went with them
00:45:06You didn't trust kids
00:45:08I was 10
00:45:10You took them out to study
00:45:12Wali was 10
00:45:14Rakay was
00:45:1617
00:45:1814
00:45:20And then
00:45:22We thought
00:45:24If you stay there for 3 years
00:45:26Because I am a British citizen
00:45:28Kids are also British
00:45:30After 3 years
00:45:32University fees
00:45:34Becomes nominal
00:45:36So we decided
00:45:38For their studies
00:45:40So what did Ali say
00:45:42He agreed
00:45:44Ali supported
00:45:46Ali couldn't come
00:45:48Because of COVID
00:45:50COVID happened later
00:45:52Before COVID
00:45:54Ali didn't come
00:45:56I used to come to Pakistan
00:45:58Holidays
00:46:00I used to come to Pakistan
00:46:02Ali has all his work
00:46:04Business
00:46:06But
00:46:08Nadia had a big test
00:46:10Test doesn't come on one birthday
00:46:12It comes on the whole family
00:46:14Nadia's cancer was diagnosed
00:46:16When she was out of Pakistan
00:46:18We were watching
00:46:20No one could come
00:46:22Because of COVID
00:46:24Did your mother
00:46:26I will tell you
00:46:30When Nadia's chemo
00:46:32Date was set
00:46:34Flights were going
00:46:36Special flights
00:46:38To repatriate
00:46:40Foreigners
00:46:42Okay
00:46:44Somehow
00:46:46I was the only passenger
00:46:48The Pakistani
00:46:50No
00:46:52The plane was empty
00:46:54She got me on the plane
00:46:58Nadia
00:47:00Astronaut suit
00:47:02Full hazmat suit
00:47:04I was worried
00:47:06You were here
00:47:08This was the first lockdown
00:47:12April 2020
00:47:14The world was closed
00:47:16There was so much fear
00:47:18Bubbles were very strict
00:47:20When was your cancer diagnosed?
00:47:22My cancer was diagnosed
00:47:26April
00:47:28March
00:47:30And April 2020
00:47:32My first chemo was done
00:47:34I came after that
00:47:36I came after your chemo
00:47:40When I came
00:47:42She was in hospital
00:47:46She surprised me
00:47:48How long did you hide it?
00:47:50I didn't hide
00:47:52You didn't tell
00:47:54You couldn't come
00:47:56What was the reaction?
00:47:58Yes
00:48:00It was terrible
00:48:02You will get a heart attack
00:48:04Your grandma, grandpa and dad
00:48:06Had cancer
00:48:08I wasn't scared
00:48:10I knew she will beat it
00:48:12I had no doubt
00:48:14I knew it would be difficult
00:48:16I had no idea
00:48:18How difficult it would be
00:48:20The most shocking thing
00:48:22Was not the diagnosis
00:48:26At that time
00:48:28I had no doubt
00:48:30I was like
00:48:32Best cancer
00:48:34Nadia will beat it easily
00:48:36I wasn't with her
00:48:38I was in Lahore
00:48:40When I saw her pictures
00:48:42And we started talking
00:48:44After the chemo
00:48:46After the chemo
00:48:48Even after the chemo
00:48:50When your hair started falling
00:48:52You lost weight
00:48:54I saw your pictures
00:48:56Then it hit me
00:48:58And
00:49:00I think
00:49:02The biggest thing for me
00:49:06I admire my sister more than anyone else
00:49:08She is one of my idols
00:49:10In my life
00:49:12I don't say it just because she is my sister
00:49:14I genuinely think
00:49:16She is an exceptional human being
00:49:18And
00:49:20At that time
00:49:22It wasn't fear
00:49:24Obviously there is fear
00:49:26There is grief
00:49:28My sister is going through this
00:49:30More than anything else
00:49:32I was just in awe
00:49:34I don't think
00:49:36I can tolerate this
00:49:38I am very weak
00:49:40I keep thinking I am very weak
00:49:42How strong is my sister
00:49:44That she is going through this
00:49:46With a smile
00:49:48And alone
00:49:50But you came to Nadia at that time
00:49:52It wasn't even the
00:49:54Alone thing
00:49:56By that time you were with Nadia
00:49:58How long did you stay with Nadia?
00:50:00Almost a year
00:50:02I came back
00:50:04And took my husband also
00:50:06I took him too
00:50:08We were there for almost two years
00:50:10One and a half years
00:50:12What was your husband's reaction
00:50:14When he found out
00:50:16She was his beloved daughter
00:50:18He was so religious
00:50:20He had so much faith in God
00:50:22Yes
00:50:24He used to pray for her
00:50:26All the time
00:50:28And he used to say
00:50:30Prayers save medicine
00:50:32And people's faith
00:50:34Like father, Umar, Ali
00:50:36They had faith
00:50:38They weren't worried
00:50:40What was Ali's reaction
00:50:42I don't know
00:50:44Ali must have suffered a lot
00:50:46It was a very difficult time
00:50:48Again not with her
00:50:50Raqay was there
00:50:52I haven't seen Raqay since two years
00:50:54Raqay was with Ali over here
00:50:56Oh
00:50:58Because Raqay was on leave
00:51:00Covid happened
00:51:02Flights got cancelled
00:51:04Raqay's passport got expired
00:51:06Embassy was closed
00:51:08So Raqay was there
00:51:10You only had one son
00:51:12How old was he?
00:51:1413 years old
00:51:16And you were alone
00:51:18That kid had a lot of courage
00:51:20Yes
00:51:22Before my mom came
00:51:24I had a breakdown
00:51:26A full breakdown
00:51:28There was a point
00:51:30They thought I had a liver scan
00:51:32That day
00:51:34One of my life's worst days
00:51:36That fear
00:51:38The fear of my childhood
00:51:40With whom I had not
00:51:42Dealt
00:51:44I had not got rid of them
00:51:46They all surfaced
00:51:48And when I had that breakdown
00:51:50I had to take care of my 13 year old son
00:51:52And at that time
00:51:54Social services came
00:51:56To help him
00:51:58Mental health services came
00:52:00That kid grew up overnight
00:52:04He must have matured
00:52:06Before the time
00:52:08Then when
00:52:10Nadia fighter
00:52:12Defeated cancer
00:52:148 months
00:52:16How many months?
00:52:18It went on till
00:52:20A year
00:52:22A year in treatment
00:52:24And then
00:52:26In recovery
00:52:28It took me 2 years
00:52:30When I reached
00:52:32I thought the worst was over
00:52:34Because he had already
00:52:36Had his surgery
00:52:38Can you imagine?
00:52:40Alone
00:52:42God
00:52:44I did not defeat cancer
00:52:46It is very important
00:52:48The same medicines
00:52:50Asma and Nabeel were taking
00:52:52We both
00:52:54Tried
00:52:56Asma was very positive
00:52:58It is her choice
00:53:00Did you meet Asma
00:53:02At that time?
00:53:04I met her before
00:53:06Because of Damsa
00:53:08When I was diagnosed
00:53:10In those days
00:53:12God gave Asma
00:53:14The highest rank in heaven
00:53:16It happened again
00:53:18We both got bald
00:53:20She was talking
00:53:22Discussing
00:53:24About cancer
00:53:26And how cancer
00:53:28Affects the family
00:53:30We have not told that story
00:53:32When cancer happens
00:53:34It does not come on one person
00:53:36Like a tsunami
00:53:38In your family
00:53:40Your parents had cancer
00:53:42Yes
00:53:44How was Nadia's diet?
00:53:46What kind of food did she eat?
00:53:50She ate junk
00:53:52Or healthy
00:53:54She ate everything
00:53:56No junk
00:53:58Home cooked food
00:54:00No junk
00:54:02Vegetables
00:54:04Nadia ate everything
00:54:06Was it genetic?
00:54:08I don't think
00:54:10We all have cancer cells
00:54:12It is said that one person
00:54:14Attacks six times
00:54:16In the world
00:54:18If I think
00:54:20What was it
00:54:22Estrogen sensitive cancer
00:54:24Hormonal
00:54:26Diet does
00:54:28Play a role
00:54:30Since childhood
00:54:32Hormones
00:54:34In milk
00:54:36I think
00:54:38There is a lot of stress
00:54:40Which we don't face
00:54:42Under the blanket
00:54:44We wash it
00:54:46And come in front of the world
00:54:48I am fine
00:54:50But it keeps boiling
00:54:52And it will come out
00:54:54In some form
00:54:56Migraine
00:54:58Asthma
00:55:00Fibroids
00:55:02There is always an issue
00:55:06Now that I am
00:55:08Studying neuroscience
00:55:10I understand that
00:55:12Your neurology
00:55:14Is connected to your emotions
00:55:16It is not different
00:55:18How did you
00:55:20Find a different person
00:55:22Nadia before cancer
00:55:24And after losing cancer
00:55:26Nadia
00:55:28You found a different person
00:55:30Nadia
00:55:32You found a different person
00:55:34Nadia
00:55:36Nadia
00:55:38Nadia
00:55:40Nadia
00:55:42Nadia
00:55:44Nadia
00:55:46Nadia
00:55:48Nadia
00:55:50Nadia
00:55:54Nadia
00:55:56Nadia
00:55:58Nadia
00:56:00Nadia
00:56:02Nadia
00:56:04Nadia
00:56:06Nadia
00:56:08Nadia
00:56:20Welcome
00:56:22Nadia
00:56:24Nadia
00:56:26Nadia's family. And there are some fans who want to ask questions.
00:56:30So we gave them a chance to turn their phones around and ask questions.
00:56:34So let's see who has got a question.
00:56:38Hello.
00:56:40Hello.
00:56:42Can you hear me? Speak a little louder.
00:56:45Hello.
00:56:47How are you all?
00:56:49Absolutely fine. What question would you like to ask Nadia?
00:56:52Nadia, first of all, you are a very brave woman.
00:56:55And you are an inspiration to a lot of people.
00:56:58I give up on every little thing and get scared.
00:57:02Tell me, in your tough times, when you were sick,
00:57:07how angry were you and how much did your anger increase?
00:57:11Okay, you will hear the answer on screen.
00:57:14How angry were you and how much did your anger increase?
00:57:19I think I got angry during my illness.
00:57:22I got angry a lot.
00:57:25And I think I got angry emotionally as well.
00:57:31I don't remember that much.
00:57:33Do you remember?
00:57:35Was I very temperamental and angry during the treatment?
00:57:38No.
00:57:40I can't remember.
00:57:41I think you were more in a daze.
00:57:43What I remember is...
00:57:45I was very sad.
00:57:47I think you had an emotional shock.
00:57:50What happened to me?
00:57:52She had an emotional shock.
00:57:54But I think she got irritated and angry a little later.
00:57:58Yes.
00:58:00I think when her treatment was over,
00:58:04when she came for recovery,
00:58:06I think it was a delayed reaction.
00:58:08And not for a long time,
00:58:10but I think for 6 to 8 months,
00:58:12which I remember,
00:58:14I used to talk to her on the phone.
00:58:16We used to talk almost every day.
00:58:18So I think at that time, her irritation and...
00:58:21It's possible.
00:58:23When the cancer treatment is over,
00:58:25and people think,
00:58:27this person has won and this is over.
00:58:30Actually,
00:58:32the battle starts then.
00:58:34Because the effects of all those medicines,
00:58:38of that poison,
00:58:40they kick in
00:58:42after the treatment is over.
00:58:44And they stay for 2 years.
00:58:46And that
00:58:47toxic element inside your body,
00:58:51naturally,
00:58:53it comes out somehow.
00:58:56But I think it's very important
00:58:59that those who are suffering from cancer,
00:59:01and those who are suffering from chemotherapy,
00:59:03they should allow themselves
00:59:05to let their emotions,
00:59:07anger, grief,
00:59:09come out.
00:59:11How long did it take you
00:59:13when you went to the UK,
00:59:15before the cancer hit you,
00:59:17I went there in 2017.
00:59:19And I got cancer in 2020.
00:59:21Okay.
00:59:23But you were there,
00:59:25you got a good treatment,
00:59:27God took you there,
00:59:29and you got to know all these things there.
00:59:31So these are God's tests,
00:59:34and you completed those tests.
00:59:37Who is the next caller?
00:59:42Assalamualaikum.
00:59:44Assalamualaikum Sadaf.
00:59:46I have a question for Nadia.
00:59:49How are you Nadia?
00:59:51Assalamualaikum. I am absolutely fine. Thank you.
00:59:53Nadia, I have a question for you.
00:59:55You are a well-educated actor,
00:59:57and everyone around you is well-educated.
01:00:00So everyone supported the decision to move.
01:00:04So was there anyone
01:00:06whose words hurt you?
01:00:09Yes, okay.
01:00:11I am on screen.
01:00:13You answer.
01:00:15No.
01:00:17I am very lucky.
01:00:19Noor is such a gift,
01:00:21when we tell the story of Noor,
01:00:24the story of Noor is that
01:00:27Noor's brothers
01:00:29came to Bibi Ma's tummy,
01:00:31and Bibi Ma came home from the hospital.
01:00:33So they brought them.
01:00:35And where did Noor come to Bibi Ma?
01:00:37Heart.
01:00:39Heart.
01:00:41And whose heart did she come to?
01:00:42Ali Baba's heart.
01:00:44She came to Ali Baba's heart.
01:00:46Ali Baba says that she came from his heart.
01:00:49So I think Ali was very supportive,
01:00:51Ammi was very supportive.
01:00:53Ali's mother,
01:00:55I think her role was the most important.
01:00:59Because
01:01:01in the beginning she was Noor's mother.
01:01:03In fact, Noor used to call her mother.
01:01:05Because you used to come and go.
01:01:07I used to come and go.
01:01:09I thought I would take her away.
01:01:10But that didn't happen.
01:01:12Paperwork took time.
01:01:14So,
01:01:16Noor's aunt,
01:01:18Noor's brother,
01:01:20Noor's uncle,
01:01:22my friends,
01:01:24Noor has a very big support system.
01:01:26And Noor pulls love wherever she goes.
01:01:29This is good luck.
01:01:31Because she knows how to take love.
01:01:33When she came to us for the first time,
01:01:36I met her as if she has known me for a long time.
01:01:39And secondly,
01:01:41till Noor's arrival,
01:01:44and now everyday,
01:01:46I am becoming such a person,
01:01:48that what people say or don't say,
01:01:51doesn't affect me.
01:01:53I mean, it doesn't affect me much.
01:01:55It has always affected you less.
01:01:57Now it has become more.
01:01:59Right?
01:02:01It can happen.
01:02:03I think,
01:02:05there is so much love
01:02:06in my heart.
01:02:08And when I see her,
01:02:10there is so much love
01:02:12everybody has for her,
01:02:14that what can be bad about it?
01:02:16One can only feel thankfulness.
01:02:18So,
01:02:20I am very lucky.
01:02:22And Noor is looking at herself.
01:02:24Noor, do you look good?
01:02:26Noor is looking at herself.
01:02:28How do you look?
01:02:30Good.
01:02:32And who gave you this dress?
01:02:34Grandma.
01:02:36Wow, next caller please.
01:02:41Hello Samra, Assalamualaikum.
01:02:43Assalamualaikum.
01:02:45Yes Samra, how are you?
01:02:47My question is that,
01:02:49in the past, people used to worry about their daughters' upbringing.
01:02:54But today's boys have also put a lot of pressure on them.
01:02:58I am very worried about my son,
01:03:01that he might fall into the wrong hands,
01:03:03into the wrong things.
01:03:04So Nadia, tell me,
01:03:06you have two sons.
01:03:08How do you look after them?
01:03:10How do you raise them?
01:03:12I am very worried.
01:03:14I have only one son,
01:03:16and he has made my life very difficult.
01:03:20Okay, let me hear the on-screen answer.
01:03:22Her question is that,
01:03:24in today's times,
01:03:26it is very difficult to keep an eye on children.
01:03:28When we were teenagers,
01:03:30at that time,
01:03:32we were still in control.
01:03:34But today's kids,
01:03:36they have gadgets,
01:03:38they know a lot.
01:03:40So it is difficult to keep an eye on them.
01:03:42They are also having a hard time keeping an eye on their son.
01:03:44There is a Netflix film called Adolescence.
01:03:46Yes, exactly.
01:03:48It is a very dramatic film.
01:03:50Because we don't know,
01:03:52we feel that the child is safe,
01:03:54in the room,
01:03:56but through the computer,
01:03:58we don't know what all things they are exposed to.
01:04:00I think it is very important that,
01:04:01first of all,
01:04:03I have made a lot of mistakes,
01:04:05with my sons.
01:04:07And I have learned from my mistakes.
01:04:09And one thing I have learned is,
01:04:11to treat them with respect.
01:04:13With respect.
01:04:15Because these kids are becoming independent very soon,
01:04:17and they have self-confidence.
01:04:19So if I treat them with respect,
01:04:21they will learn to respect me.
01:04:23And whoever I talk to,
01:04:25I try to talk to them with respect.
01:04:28Because they will get respect from me.
01:04:29Because you don't know,
01:04:31you are talking to them verbally.
01:04:33And if you are shouting at them,
01:04:35then the kids will just go.
01:04:37Exactly.
01:04:39Second thing is,
01:04:41boundaries should be firm.
01:04:43If your children cross a boundary,
01:04:45or do something that you feel,
01:04:47is harmful for them.
01:04:49Harmful.
01:04:51So in that case,
01:04:53you should set a boundary,
01:04:55and set it without fear.
01:04:57It is not your job,
01:04:59to tell your child to do something,
01:05:01or like it,
01:05:03or give you validation.
01:05:05Your job is to keep your child safe.
01:05:07So that's what you have to set boundaries.
01:05:09Whether you like it or not,
01:05:11whether they throw tantrums or not,
01:05:13with respect,
01:05:15carry them through.
01:05:17So you were a free spirit,
01:05:19so that they didn't behave so harshly.
01:05:21So now,
01:05:23if a person himself couldn't be harsh,
01:05:25then was he able to be harsh on his children?
01:05:27So I am not against being harsh.
01:05:29But,
01:05:31where you feel,
01:05:33that they are making mistakes,
01:05:35with respect,
01:05:37set your boundaries.
01:05:39And now I understand,
01:05:41why did my mother try to set boundaries,
01:05:43why did she try to protect me,
01:05:45with elements that might harm me.
01:05:47So,
01:05:49I want to say,
01:05:51the world has changed a lot.
01:05:53Now,
01:05:55the availability of drugs,
01:05:57has become so easy.
01:05:59In our time,
01:06:01we couldn't even imagine.
01:06:03For us,
01:06:05smoking was so difficult.
01:06:07I don't know,
01:06:09when did I smoke?
01:06:11I must have been 50 years old.
01:06:13So,
01:06:15nowadays,
01:06:17it's so easy to get children.
01:06:19So parents have to be very vigilant.
01:06:21Very vigilant.
01:06:23And also remember,
01:06:25when I saw,
01:06:27NLP,
01:06:29I am seeing positive changes in me.
01:06:31I told my brother,
01:06:33to do this course.
01:06:35Then I saw changes in my brother.
01:06:37I told my friends to do this course.
01:06:39I saw changes in them.
01:06:41Then I told my sons to do this course.
01:06:43What kind of course is this?
01:06:45NLP.
01:06:47NLP teaches you,
01:06:49how to control your own mind,
01:06:51and emotions.
01:06:53That,
01:06:55you are the master of your emotions.
01:06:57So you go to a psychiatrist,
01:06:59or is it different?
01:07:01An NLP master trainer,
01:07:03teaches you.
01:07:05We have Alia Muhyuddin,
01:07:07in Karachi,
01:07:09who is one of the best NLP trainers,
01:07:11in the world.
01:07:13So what is the age of the child?
01:07:15My son is 18 years old,
01:07:17the day it happened.
01:07:19And how long is the course?
01:07:21It is 3 modules.
01:07:236 weeks.
01:07:25Over 6 weeks, 3 modules.
01:07:273 weeks, then a break,
01:07:29then 6 weeks.
01:07:313 modules.
01:07:33I don't remember.
01:07:353 or 4 modules,
01:07:37I am also not remembering now properly.
01:07:39People will research that.
01:07:41But now I have seen my son,
01:07:43he did NLP practitioner course,
01:07:45at the age of 18.
01:07:47The elder son?
01:07:49The younger one.
01:07:51The younger one did MBIT course,
01:07:53he has become a coach,
01:07:55a certified coach,
01:07:57a certified practitioner.
01:07:59I think,
01:08:01language is very important.
01:08:03I was surely annoyed,
01:08:05with his wrong decisions.
01:08:07But those decisions,
01:08:09he did not do to annoy me.
01:08:11He made those decisions for himself,
01:08:13and he was making good decisions for himself.
01:08:16I was annoyed with those decisions.
01:08:18Like whatever I was doing,
01:08:20with my parents.
01:08:22I was doing the right thing in my mind.
01:08:24So he did not annoy me,
01:08:26but I was surely annoyed with his decisions.
01:08:27But I have seen that,
01:08:29today,
01:08:31Rakay is 22 years old,
01:08:33and Mir is 18 years old,
01:08:35both of them,
01:08:37make very good decisions for themselves.
01:08:39And I think,
01:08:41one reason for this is,
01:08:43they see their parents,
01:08:45and people around them,
01:08:47making good decisions.
01:08:49When your elders around you,
01:08:51make good decisions for themselves,
01:08:53they see your uncle.
01:08:55I also want to say,
01:08:57your education,
01:08:59and observations,
01:09:01through your friends and kids.
01:09:03And I think,
01:09:05one thing I have seen,
01:09:07which is very important,
01:09:09and I think we are very lucky,
01:09:11Nadia and I were very lucky,
01:09:13and Nadia's kids,
01:09:15are very lucky in this way.
01:09:17I think communication is very important,
01:09:19with your parents.
01:09:21Nadia and I,
01:09:23I think one thing,
01:09:25while growing up,
01:09:27especially my father,
01:09:29never stopped me,
01:09:31he never stopped me.
01:09:33He said,
01:09:35this is wrong for you,
01:09:37I will stop you,
01:09:39if you want to do it, you will do it.
01:09:41Whether it is a cigarette,
01:09:43or something else,
01:09:45I can't stop you,
01:09:47you will do it secretly,
01:09:49it is better if you tell me,
01:09:51you are smoking,
01:09:53it is better if you tell me,
01:09:55I will scold you,
01:09:57I can't stop you,
01:09:59but I can give you guidance,
01:10:01that this is wrong for you.
01:10:03So I think that communication,
01:10:05is very important.
01:10:07Your kids should not be afraid,
01:10:09to talk to you.
01:10:11They should be,
01:10:13I think we were very lucky,
01:10:15that we were not afraid,
01:10:17to talk to our parents.
01:10:19We could openly say,
01:10:21I did this, I did that,
01:10:23we used to get scolded.
01:10:25There are two schools of thought,
01:10:27one is to be strict with your kids,
01:10:29and the other is to be friends,
01:10:31like you are with your parents.
01:10:33We will come back after the break,
01:10:35I will ask you too,
01:10:37because these two have told me,
01:10:39their perception,
01:10:41what do you think,
01:10:43how to raise both the sons,
01:10:45because here the son was right,
01:10:47the daughter was making a mess in your life,
01:10:49so I will ask you,
01:10:51after the break.
01:10:53Middle way,
01:10:55I think middle way.
01:10:57Welcome, welcome back,
01:10:59as you can see,
01:11:01we are having a lot of fun,
01:11:03isn't it Noor?
01:11:05Noor, are you getting bored?
01:11:07Noor, let's give you something to eat.
01:11:09Let's take you to the kitchen.
01:11:11This is our kitchen,
01:11:13Fatima has prepared some food for you,
01:11:15let's go there,
01:11:17and talk about the food.
01:11:19How the time passed,
01:11:21I didn't come with your family,
01:11:23I didn't know,
01:11:25come this way.
01:11:27Fatima will tell you,
01:11:29what she has made for you.
01:11:31Yes, Fatima.
01:11:33I have made yakhni pulao in mutton,
01:11:35this is potli pulao,
01:11:37which people used to make in the olden days,
01:11:39grandmothers used to make it,
01:11:41potli style,
01:11:43this is that,
01:11:45in real ghee,
01:11:47and the real method,
01:11:49because this pulao is made in 7 pots,
01:11:51it has 7 pots,
01:11:53with which it is cooked,
01:11:54and Dr. Amir Diakat,
01:11:56the late Dr. Amir Diakat,
01:11:58explained it to me.
01:12:00Then I asked my mother,
01:12:02and she said it is correct,
01:12:04that it is cooked in 7 pots.
01:12:06This is Shindwari karahi,
01:12:08street style Karachi,
01:12:10Dhaba style,
01:12:12and we have made a fusion of
01:12:14Kunafa,
01:12:16Kunafa delight.
01:12:18What kind of food do you make at home,
01:12:20spicy,
01:12:22or plain?
01:12:24We have our brother Iqbal,
01:12:26he has been with us for 40 years,
01:12:2840 years!
01:12:3040 years!
01:12:32Serious?
01:12:34Masha Allah!
01:12:36He is 15 years old.
01:12:38He cooks foreign food very well,
01:12:40but his desi food,
01:12:42wow,
01:12:44he makes Ran Pulao,
01:12:46Naranji Ran Pulao,
01:12:48my mother taught him,
01:12:50and his potato and meat.
01:12:52Does your mother make good food?
01:12:54No she doesn't.
01:12:56She says her mother taught her.
01:12:58The food at home is very good,
01:13:00my in-laws' food is very good.
01:13:03I learned from my in-laws.
01:13:05So you never made it yourself,
01:13:07but your mother taught you.
01:13:09She can cook,
01:13:11I am not shocked.
01:13:13Does Nadia cook?
01:13:15Nadia cooks very well.
01:13:17I am very fond of Nadia.
01:13:19I was very fond of baking,
01:13:21making donuts,
01:13:22making cakes,
01:13:24but when I went abroad,
01:13:26I had to cook for the kids and their friends,
01:13:28so it was a lot of fun,
01:13:30and I married into a Kashmiri family,
01:13:33so in their house,
01:13:35there was food all the time.
01:13:37There was a lot of food.
01:13:39So have you ever eaten anything made by Nadia?
01:13:42What is the best thing made by Nadia?
01:13:45My mother loves my cheese omelette.
01:13:47I was thinking,
01:13:49you gave me something in Cambridge,
01:13:50I don't remember what it was.
01:13:53It was something like roast chicken.
01:13:56I love making roast chicken.
01:13:58It was very tasty.
01:14:00Shepherd's pie.
01:14:04Do you like to go to the kitchen?
01:14:07Absolutely not.
01:14:09I like to wash utensils.
01:14:11My mother is very fond of cleaning.
01:14:13My mother has trained me a lot in cleaning.
01:14:15She has to do the hard work herself.
01:14:18She has to make the bed herself,
01:14:20so when she comes back from outside,
01:14:22there won't be any problem.
01:14:24There is no tantrum when it comes to cleaning.
01:14:27Cleaning the bathroom,
01:14:29cleaning the kitchen,
01:14:31cleaning the kitchen,
01:14:33my mother has taught me everything.
01:14:35My father has cooked for my mother,
01:14:37he has sung songs for her,
01:14:39but I have never seen him cook.
01:14:41I don't think your father has ever entered the kitchen.
01:14:43He must have cooked for you.
01:14:45If I have cooked,
01:14:47I must have eaten something bad.
01:14:48He must have cooked.
01:14:50For her.
01:14:52He used to sing songs,
01:14:54he used to write poetry.
01:14:56Did you feel shy or did you enjoy his songs?
01:14:58Enjoy.
01:15:00Thoroughly enjoy.
01:15:02Thoroughly enjoy.
01:15:04It is obvious,
01:15:06the romance started when you were 15 years old.
01:15:08What is one thing,
01:15:10that you tell your children all your life,
01:15:12that has kept you glued to them,
01:15:15that habit of yours,
01:15:16that you have always been with them.
01:15:19Was there something like that in them?
01:15:22Was there something like that in them?
01:15:25I think there was so much love.
01:15:27Yes, there was a lot of love.
01:15:29And second,
01:15:31my mother told me something many years ago.
01:15:33I was 22 years old,
01:15:35I had broken up with someone,
01:15:37I was crying,
01:15:39I will die, I will die,
01:15:41I can't live without her.
01:15:43My mother told me something,
01:15:44that love is not that you can't live without someone.
01:15:47It is that you choose that person every day.
01:15:50And you say,
01:15:52I choose to love this person.
01:15:54And it is an active decision.
01:15:58It is an active decision.
01:16:00Should I tell you?
01:16:02Great, great.
01:16:06We were together for…
01:16:0960 years.
01:16:1160 years.
01:16:13Wow.
01:16:15Long time.
01:16:17What did you both learn from your parents' relationship?
01:16:22You go first.
01:16:24No, you go first.
01:16:27I think,
01:16:29I think,
01:16:31the understanding of one's parents' relationship
01:16:34changes.
01:16:36When you are 15-16 years old,
01:16:39you understand this relationship,
01:16:40then you think about it when you are 20-21 years old.
01:16:45And when you are 50 years old,
01:16:47you think about something else.
01:16:49I think, when I was young,
01:16:51I used to think about romance, romance, romance, romance, romance, romance,
01:16:54everything is the same.
01:16:56Now I have learned that
01:16:58in this romance,
01:17:00there were ups and downs.
01:17:02There were difficulties in their lives.
01:17:04Now you see,
01:17:06Nadia and my eldest son,
01:17:08he passed away when he was 2 years old.
01:17:10And they were very young.
01:17:12He must have been 22-23 years old.
01:17:15So I think,
01:17:17now that I am older,
01:17:19I understand that
01:17:21what my mother said,
01:17:23they used to listen to each other every day.
01:17:25They used to make an active decision that
01:17:27I choose that I will love this person,
01:17:29I will love this person.
01:17:31This person has a lot of qualities,
01:17:34this person has a lot of shortcomings.
01:17:36It's a whole package deal.
01:17:38And when you love someone,
01:17:40you accept the good and the bad.
01:17:42You accept the good and the bad.
01:17:44When you were young,
01:17:46you used to think that everything is good,
01:17:48everything is great,
01:17:50everything is romance and love.
01:17:52I think now one understands
01:17:54that it wasn't just romance.
01:17:56It was a lot more than just...
01:17:58Sometimes happiness, sometimes sadness.
01:18:00Yes.
01:18:02What do you think?
01:18:04I think this is what my brother is saying.
01:18:06But he was also a very good human being.
01:18:10As a human being,
01:18:12he was a very fine person.
01:18:14He was an exceptional person.
01:18:16He had a high intellect,
01:18:18high intelligence.
01:18:20Very kind.
01:18:22He was an exceptional person.
01:18:24I think,
01:18:26when I was young,
01:18:28I used to think that
01:18:30there is no one like him in romance.
01:18:32This is a side of love.
01:18:34But now when I look at it,
01:18:36I see two things.
01:18:38One is consistency.
01:18:40Keep going.
01:18:42No matter what happens,
01:18:44keep going.
01:18:46Don't leave each other's side.
01:18:48Especially in difficult times.
01:18:50And the other thing is tolerance.
01:18:52Now I see
01:18:54the things that he tolerated
01:18:56and the compromises that he made,
01:18:58I see them now.
01:19:00And I find them very beautiful.
01:19:02I have a lot of anger.
01:19:04See,
01:19:06he was a very tolerant person.
01:19:08His anger was also very strong.
01:19:10He used to get angry very less.
01:19:12You used to get angry a lot.
01:19:14He used to get angry less.
01:19:16But when he used to get angry,
01:19:18then he used to get angry.
01:19:20It was so nice to talk to you all.
01:19:24And I didn't realize that time has passed.
01:19:26And if someone has just put on the TV
01:19:28and says that Nadia Jamil's mother
01:19:30came for the first time,
01:19:32why didn't I see her?
01:19:34Then we will repeat the morning show
01:19:35and we will see the morning show.
01:19:37Thank you so much.
01:19:39Thank you so much.
01:19:41Thank you Noor.
01:19:43I really enjoyed your show.
01:19:45I don't like to come here usually.
01:19:47I think this is your first time.
01:19:49Thank you so much.
01:19:51Noor, thank you.
01:19:53Noor, come on.
01:19:55Say good bye to the camera.
01:19:57Say good bye.
01:19:59Bye.
01:20:05Bye.
01:20:35Bye.

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