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00:00So I no care deeply about national security.
00:05When are they going to find the willingness to step up and say, this was wrong, people
00:09should be held accountable, and people need to be fired or removed from their positions
00:15if they can't guarantee this kind of security?
00:18Senator, as a U.S. senator, what do you feel like saying to the European allies after the
00:23attacks on the vice president?
00:24What I say is that I'm embarrassed, I'm disappointed, I am hopeful that the 70 years of ties between
00:37America and our allies, not just in Europe but around the world, isn't going to be thrown
00:42overboard by the short-term transactions of the current administration that views every
00:48deal as only in a short-term context.
00:53I just can't imagine, you know, let's take Russia, the fact that in Europe we've stood
01:00united against the Soviet Union and Europe, I'm sorry, we've stood united against the
01:06Soviet Union and then Russia for 70 years.
01:09And now you've got United States siding with Russia and North Korea and other rogue states.
01:17It's not what I believe.
01:18I don't think what the vast majority of Americans want, and America alone.
01:25And I also, we have heard, I mean, think if you've spent your career in the intelligence
01:32community, the CIA or the NSA, trying to figure out what bad things Putin is doing or the
01:39Russians are doing, and all of a sudden you've got this overnight change with no explanation
01:45that suddenly we want to be buddies with Russia and, you know, turn Canada into an enemy.
01:52Senator, did anything that you hear in the – did anything that you heard in there,
01:56Senator, suggest that this White House is going to take accountability for what happened?
02:01Listen, we – one thing about the Trump administration being consistent, they never acknowledge mistakes.
02:10But the unwillingness to acknowledge mistakes is, I think, going to come back and bite them.
02:18I mean, some of that testimony was pathetic.
02:23Nobody believed that – they didn't realize that putting this kind of information out
02:28would not be appropriate.
02:29Senator –
02:30And again, this is – go back to Gabbard's own comments.
02:33We're going to pursue every leaker and follow the law to its full extent.
02:38That's what we're going to see.
02:39Senator, a question about the hearing itself and the way the testimony went.
02:43It seemed almost like there was a careful dance in there with what Raqqa was saying
02:47about whether he thought there was classified intelligence on that thread versus maybe DOD.
02:54Do you know what I mean?
02:55Can you help explain what you got from that?
02:57I think you almost saw – I think you almost saw – again, we can go back and look at
03:02the testimony.
03:03But at first they said, oh, no classifications here at all.
03:06And then I think they realized, oh my gosh, we may be up a creek here because clearly
03:11I think there is, and then they tried to shift to midterm.
03:14But again, I go back to Director Gabbard.
03:16She wouldn't even acknowledge he's on the call.
03:19It's – this is not responsible action.
03:22These jobs are important.
03:23It's one of the reasons we raise questions during the confirmation process.
03:27These are serious jobs that take serious people who understand the responsibilities that are
03:34in front of them.
03:35Has this shown a lack of experience and incompetence by some of the people that Trump appointed?
03:39This has been a pattern.
03:42It started with Musk and the Dogeboys doing things totally inappropriate that had to be
03:47rolled back, like firing folks at the FAA or firing folks that take care of our nuclear weapons.
03:54It's been with casualness and carelessness about classified information that resulted
03:59in hundreds of CIA agents' identities being identified.
04:04It's been in the sloppiness of some of the postings that the Musk team makes about
04:11so-called savings that are oftentimes just flat wrong.
04:15And again, maybe that's the way – what is differences – the thing that's kind
04:22of – I had many disagreements with Donald Trump in his first term.
04:29But in terms of how the intelligence community works, in terms of taking things seriously,
04:34like the Russia threat on elections, they were professional.
04:39One of the things we didn't even get to today, they still cite in this intelligence
04:43analysis that Russia still wants to try to interfere in elections.
04:47But they are dismantling everything in the intelligence community that looks into that
04:52election interference and meddling.
04:54I mean, how does that make America safer?
04:56Do you have any plans to ask the Atlantic for more of these texts?
04:59Yeah, I think we need to see them all.
05:01I mean, it's crazy that – you can't have it both ways.
05:04You can't say it's not classified, but we don't want to show it to you.
05:08And I think it's going to come back – I wonder whether these witnesses will rue this
05:13testimony, because I've not seen the full extent of all the texts.
05:20But just the idea of the fight between senior officials over foreign policy – that's
05:28what spies do.
05:30That's the kind of information you try to get.
05:32And the idea that there was such sloppy behavior that nobody even bothered to check,
05:37who's that other name on this chat?
05:40I mean, if that happened – you guys are journalists.
05:43If you inadvertently put somebody on a chat that was a competitor or something else,
05:48you get fired.
05:50And that kind of standard ought to be what we expect, not only from that junior CIA case
05:56officer, but from our – obviously from our top senior officials.
05:59Thank you, sir.
06:00These messages were set to disappear, weren't they?
06:01Do you think there was a backup?
06:02Again, we've got to figure that out.
06:07Thanks, Senator.
06:08Hey.