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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Mohammad Malik.
00:16Yesterday, there was a big headline news when PTI gave a guarantee in the court that you
00:23let us meet Imran Khan, let us meet the family, let us meet Wukla.
00:27The condition of the government was that you will not come out in Adyala and talk about political issues.
00:41After that, when the king came out and talked to the media,
00:45he said that our understanding is that Wukla and other people,
00:50whoever talks to Imran Khan, they will not talk about Adyala.
00:56But this restriction is not on their family.
00:59And the court has also decided that the coordinator will be Salman Akram Raja.
01:05The name he will give to John will be the name he will meet,
01:08whether it is in the name of the family or in another name, he has made him the main point person.
01:12There was no detailed decision on it yet.
01:15And now this decision, there was a lot of controversy about it.
01:17The big people in the party had an objection that how did you agree to such a big thing
01:21that if Imran Khan does not talk about politics, then what will happen?
01:24We have to take direction in everything.
01:26Today, when the meetings took place, it seems that the understanding was empty before the decision came.
01:33How is that?
01:34Today, the list of names was not allowed to meet Reema Khan and the other two.
01:42Instead, only Bushra Bibi's family was allowed to meet.
01:45And then there was another fight.
01:48Baba Rawan Sahib, who was a very prominent figure in the time of Imran Khan and politics,
01:53when he went there, Salman Akram Raja Sahib made a very serious objection to him.
01:57He was interrogated by the JLA.
02:00They said that why are you allowing people who are not on the list to meet?
02:04But anyway, they also went inside.
02:06And they also had a meeting.
02:09Then this allegation seemed very serious.
02:11Reema Khan said a lot of things.
02:13Salman Akram Raja also said in an informal conversation with the media
02:16that some people are allowed to meet Imran Khan.
02:19First listen to what Reema Khan said.
02:23We have been sitting for two and a half hours.
02:26And they did not allow us to meet Imran Khan's family today.
02:31The judge who gave this order,
02:33that if you come out, you friends, whoever you are,
02:36he said that you cannot come out and talk to the media.
02:39If its implementation can be done today,
02:42that lawyers cannot come out and talk,
02:45then why was it not implemented that the names on the list should also be allowed to meet?
02:49Our judicial system has become straightforward.
02:52You tell us.
02:53No one has ever contacted us and told us.
02:56You tell us what you want.
02:59Anyone can come and tell us.
03:02What do you want from Imran Khan?
03:04Imran Khan, believe me, we know our brother.
03:06He is very strong.
03:08This is what has been happening for a long time.
03:09Those who want to send him, we have seen many times.
03:12Those who want Imran Khan, they are not allowed to go inside.
03:15He has to go back to CIT.
03:17He is saying that whatever is written in the social media,
03:20you are responsible for it.
03:22This is what he said to me.
03:24Yes, there are a lot of things.
03:26Before the program, we will talk to Salman Akram Raja,
03:29who is also the General Secretary of PTI.
03:31Salam Salman.
03:33Yes, Salam.
03:35Salman, tell us, it seems that understanding,
03:37before even it came down in writing,
03:39it seems that it has flown in the air.
03:41Today, your list was not completed.
03:44What was the fight about Babar Awan?
03:47What was your objection to him?
03:49There was no fight.
03:51You are saying that people are being introduced.
03:54Aleema Bibi also said that people are being introduced.
03:57Can Imran Khan be called to jail?
04:01Is it necessary for Imran Khan to meet them?
04:04If they meet, they will do it at their own will, right?
04:07Look, what happens is that Imran Khan is in a room in jail,
04:15a meeting room.
04:17He comes there at a fixed time.
04:20And he should meet only those people
04:23according to the rules,
04:25according to the SOP,
04:27who should be named.
04:29Let me clarify that I am not going to name the family.
04:32I know who the family is.
04:34Look, the names can be changed
04:37according to the revolution
04:39or according to the friends.
04:41Next week, these people will meet.
04:43Next week, someone else will meet.
04:45The family is the same.
04:47The three sisters, their cousins,
04:49or the daughters of Bushra Bibi,
04:51there is no change in that.
04:53Who is supposed to give those names?
04:55Who is supposed to give those names?
04:57Who is supposed to give those names?
04:59Who is supposed to give those names?
05:01Who is supposed to give those names?
05:03Who are the three sisters of Imran Khan?
05:05Who are the two daughters of Bushra Bibi?
05:07These are fixed names that no one is supposed to give.
05:10And since the last two years,
05:12since Imran Khan has been in jail,
05:14his meetings are held on the day of the family meeting.
05:19It has happened once in the middle.
05:21Earlier, Alima Bibi was not met.
05:23Today, she was not met again.
05:25No reason was given.
05:27So, regarding Alima Bibi or other sisters,
05:29no one was supposed to give any names.
05:31This is understood.
05:33Who is the family of Khan Sahib?
05:35This has been given.
05:37The names that Khan Sahib gave in the beginning,
05:39have been given.
05:41So, this has nothing to do with me,
05:43as far as the family meetings are concerned.
05:45As far as the lawyer and other friends are concerned,
05:48Khan Sahib himself has decided an SOP,
05:51a process,
05:53in which he has said that
05:55I, or Warrister Gauhar,
05:57or Intazar Panjota Sahib,
05:59will give names.
06:01And only those names will be allowed to come in.
06:03He will meet only them.
06:05In that too, of course,
06:07we discuss with Khan Sahib.
06:09In one meeting,
06:11we discuss about the next meeting.
06:13Now, who would you like to meet?
06:15So, that too,
06:17is decided by Khan Sahib.
06:19Who will he meet in the next meeting?
06:21So, today,
06:23when the court accepted this entire SOP yesterday,
06:25and said that the matter will proceed in this way,
06:27the Superintendent Jail was present there,
06:29the government lawyers were present there,
06:31and under that SOP,
06:33I gave names.
06:35I gave six names.
06:37A very senior lawyer,
06:39Hamid Khan Sahib,
06:41our lawyer, Uzair Bhandari Sahib,
06:43he came from Lahore,
06:45Hamid Khan Sahib was from Karachi,
06:47he came from there.
06:49So, how can these Jail Lawyers
06:51not send those two?
06:53Because the six names that were given,
06:55he removed both of them.
06:57And by his own will,
06:59he gave a fifth name,
07:01which was Babur Awan Sahib.
07:03I have a lot of respect for Babur Awan Sahib.
07:05He has a very useful conversation
07:07whenever he comes.
07:09For him, we had suggested next week
07:11that we will give his name next Tuesday.
07:13So, today, when he came,
07:15I did talk to the Jail Superintendent
07:17that you are going against the rules.
07:19The names that I gave,
07:21to so many senior people,
07:23those who came from outside,
07:25you are telling them that you will not go.
07:27And the name that you did not give,
07:29you are sending it.
07:31So, this was the extent
07:33of a senior man,
07:35Uzair Bhandari.
07:37So, how did you decide
07:39that these two will not go
07:41and this one will go?
07:43So, this was the discussion.
07:45So, you have an objection
07:47only on today's meeting,
07:49not on next week's meeting?
07:51No, absolutely.
07:53We had suggested his name
07:55next week and he had to go
07:57next week.
07:59But he went today
08:01and the Jail Superintendent
08:03accepted his leaving
08:05and stopped Hamid Khan
08:07and Bhandari.
08:09So, this is a wrong situation.
08:11We will file a complaint
08:13in the court regarding this.
08:15How did you go against the SOP?
08:17Your understanding was that
08:19the lawyers will not come
08:21and talk about politics.
08:23There is no discrimination
08:25in the family.
08:27No, no, no.
08:29My understanding was
08:31that there was no
08:33conflict between the lawyers
08:35and the family in the court.
08:37The conflict was
08:39between the friends.
08:41The meeting between the lawyers
08:43and the family was on Tuesday
08:45and was going on.
08:47The meeting between the lawyers
08:49and the family was on Thursday
08:51and was going on for 5 months.
08:53No, no, no.
08:55I am not talking about the meeting.
08:57Salman, I am not talking
08:59about the meeting.
09:01When he asked you
09:03to share his views,
09:05you said that there is
09:07no discrimination
09:09in the family.
09:11We have agreed that
09:13we will not come
09:15and talk about politics.
09:17Then I want your views
09:19on that.
09:45Your understanding is that
09:47you are saying that
09:49the court should totally
09:51ban it.
09:53You are saying that
09:55they should not be able
09:57to tweet about
09:59political discussions
10:01or press conferences
10:03or discuss in shows.
10:05As per Pakistan Prisoner
10:07Rule 1978 and as per
10:09Supreme Court's judgment
10:11Zulfiqar Ahmed Butta,
10:14Salman, his understanding
10:16is that whatever transpires
10:18in that meeting,
10:20no one can come and
10:22share it.
10:24No, no, he did not say that.
10:26No, no, listen to me.
10:28Mr. Naveed did not say that.
10:30Even though what he said
10:32was wrong,
10:34he did not say that.
10:36He is telling you his
10:38understanding of what
10:40his request was,
10:42and we rejected it.
10:44There are two different things.
10:46One is what the parties
10:48discussed.
10:50I think their discussion
10:52was legally wrong.
10:54The court did not agree
10:56to it.
10:58The second thing is
11:00what the court
11:02undertook from me.
11:04I will tell you what
11:06I undertook.
11:08I have a complete explanation
11:10of what I did.
11:12The issue was only
11:14the meeting of the
11:16Rufaqa.
11:18The superintendent
11:20or the legal representative
11:22said that if these Rufaqa
11:24would come,
11:26they can have a
11:28law and order situation
11:30by pressing the court,
11:32so they should not
11:34have a press talk
11:36outside Adiala jail.
11:38Mr. Tahir told me very clearly that you are right, don't do it here at the gate, do it in your chamber,
11:45your political colleagues can do it somewhere else, what is the need for them to do it at the gate?
11:50I said, absolutely right, they will not do it at the gate, they will do it two, three, four miles ahead.
11:57It is impossible for you to shut a person's mouth, no such thing has happened that a general gagging order is applied to anyone.
12:05It is neither applied to the colleagues, nor to the lawyers, nor to the family, it cannot be applied from the point of view of the law.
12:11You have met a person, how can you, under which law can you be stopped from expressing your opinions,
12:18that his opinion is this, his thinking is this, his level of courage is this, can you stop anyone if he comes and says this?
12:26No law, no law allows you to stop anyone.
12:30It was just about law and order, that if there is a press conference at the gate of Adiala Jail,
12:36then there will be a crowd there and an issue of law and order can arise.
12:41We said we will not talk at the gate, that's all.
12:44Logically, I agree with you, I also felt that logically it doesn't make sense.
12:49But in my program yesterday, Faisal Chaudhary, he thought that this is a thing to silence,
12:58which he quoted in Rule 265.
13:00No, no, look, Faisal Chaudhary's character, let me tell you, his character has been very negative.
13:05Today, Mr. Khan has ordered that he should be removed from the legal committee.
13:09It was put in front of him that what had happened and what statements he made on it, what he said.
13:15So this matter was going on for a long time, today its drop scene has happened,
13:19we have removed him from the legal committee.
13:22This was not discussed at all, whatever you want to say, say it, it was discussed in Bughz.
13:29Is Bughz a king?
13:31Yes, Bughz is a king, but the matter is very serious, you are right.
13:37But the matter was only that I told you about Justice Arbaab Tahir,
13:42he said that don't do it at the gate, go a little further.
13:46This was discussed in front of everyone.
13:48In Bughz, if someone wants to break it, he can do whatever he wants.
13:52The fundamental rights were surrendered there, Mr. Khan was minused there,
13:57his statements were finished.
13:59This is a complete nonsense discussion.
14:01I have not given any such statement, I have not given any such undertaking.
14:05It was only about the gate that the direct premises of Adiala Jail,
14:09we will not do it there.
14:11So the rule that Mr. Naveed Malik was quoting in Rule 265,
14:17in which there is a prisoner,
14:19he will not talk about prison administration, discipline, other prisoners or politics,
14:25and if he does, his privileges can be withdrawn.
14:28So is this a meaningless reference?
14:31There is no application here.
14:33Look, this is a different thing.
14:35This is what will be discussed during the meeting.
14:37These are two different things.
14:39One is that when the meeting is taking place, what will be discussed in the meeting.
14:43The second thing is that whatever was discussed in the meeting,
14:46can it be expressed outside?
14:48These are two completely different things.
14:50Now we are talking about what can be said outside,
14:53whether it is in Islamabad city or Pindi city,
14:56if a person goes to Karachi together,
14:58what can he say there that we had this discussion, this is my impression?
15:02He can definitely say it, no one can stop him.
15:05To say that what can be discussed during the meeting,
15:08there are judicial decisions on this,
15:11you cannot stop anyone from discussing this.
15:14Our court has declared this as Kaladam.
15:16When the time comes, I will present the decision in front of you.
15:19This rule has been declared as Kaladam,
15:22that when a person is meeting,
15:24he can talk about anything,
15:27he can talk about his family,
15:29he can talk about his country,
15:31he can talk about beauty,
15:34he can also talk about politics.
15:38I think you elaborated this point very articulately.
15:41Tell me, there was a lot of debate going on
15:44when you did not go to the national security meeting,
15:47and there was a lot of criticism in the media,
15:50even I had an objection that you should have gone.
15:53Now Mr. Bhutto has given you the latest offer,
15:56listen to what he has said,
15:58then I would like your response on that.
16:02Now listen to what he has said,
16:04then I would like your response on that.
16:32It is also possible that we can help the government,
16:35we can engage with other political parties,
16:38we are ready to play that role.
16:41For the Pakistan People's Party,
16:43the problem is that you are neither a minister in the government,
16:47nor are you a part of the government coalition,
16:50nor are you a part of the opposition.
16:53Mr. Bhutto himself is the government,
16:56the government is not separate from him.
16:59If he gets in touch with the PTI,
17:02and if he succeeds in negotiating with them,
17:05then we will think that he is our success.
17:08We could not succeed in this.
17:11If Mr. Balawar makes a presentation on this,
17:14then we will welcome him, and the Prime Minister will also welcome him.
17:17Salman, he has called for another security committee meeting,
17:20I will play a role in that,
17:22neither am I the government, nor am I the opposition.
17:25Rana Sananda has said that you are the government.
17:28In your view, he is not in the government or the opposition,
17:31and secondly, if he approaches you,
17:34are you ready to talk to him,
17:37that there should be a meeting of the next security committee,
17:40and there should be TURs for that, and then you are ready to come to that?
17:43Look, I will say this,
17:46this is a correct approach.
17:49What we wanted to say was that we should let Mr. Imran Khan meet us,
17:52we should let him consult us,
17:55the security committee meeting was not allowed to be held since October,
17:58that meeting should be held,
18:01now the court has ordered that the meeting should be held on Friday,
18:04if he does not hold the meeting on Friday,
18:07then his intention will become clear that he does not want to obey the court order.
18:10So a meeting should be held,
18:13perhaps more than one meeting is necessary.
18:16Look, we think that the members of our party,
18:19who are from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan,
18:22their meeting is very important,
18:25it is very important to know their opinion,
18:28after that Mr. Khan's advice, his guidance is very important.
18:31The politics of Pakistan is revolving around Imran Khan,
18:34he is the pillar of Pakistan's politics.
18:37A very large majority of Pakistan trusts him,
18:40apart from him, no solution to the problems of Pakistan is possible.
18:43If you accept this fact,
18:46if we have a meeting with him in a proper environment,
18:49and after that you call a meeting of the National Security Committee,
18:52in that too we will say that the number should not be 40-42,
18:55last time we were told to send 12 or 14 names,
18:58we think that the representatives of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan,
19:01if you call the real representatives,
19:04it will be much better,
19:07the representatives of Balochistan in Form 47
19:10cannot tell you the right thing,
19:13you should call a meeting which is meaningful,
19:16who are real representatives of the people,
19:19who understand their pain, their anger.
19:22That means you are open, PTI is ready to come to the next meeting,
19:25if certain prerequisites are fulfilled.
19:28Absolutely, if that meeting is in a proper environment,
19:31after consultation with Imran Khan,
19:34in fact we will say, as Rana Sanaullah said,
19:37that they should also be allowed to come on payroll,
19:40as the biggest political leader of the country,
19:43so that he can play his role,
19:46so that everyone can sit together to save Pakistan.
19:49Salman, last question, you had a meeting today,
19:52so did Imran Khan support the decision that you boycotted,
19:55or did he say that you should have gone?
19:58Because you did not talk to him.
20:01No, no, this was discussed last week,
20:04he supported it, he said,
20:07there is no point in going to a small session in a closed room,
20:10where there is no consultation,
20:13where a decision can be made,
20:16and then it can be said that PTI supported this decision.
20:19We keep saying it a hundred times,
20:22that we did not support it,
20:25it was a fight, we do not want a decision to be made in a small closed room.
20:28Tell me, the JUI people have spoken very openly,
20:31Kamran Murza Sahib, others have also said,
20:34we have also complained a lot,
20:37there is a lack of trust in the house of Mustafa Khokhar,
20:40there will be a written agreement,
20:43then we will think about it.
20:46Right now, there are a lot of ifs and buts,
20:49you had announced that this movement will continue after Eid,
20:52after Eid, there are 10 months left in the year,
20:55I would like to ask,
20:58you are talking about days, weeks, months,
21:01what is the realistic timetable?
21:04This is about days.
21:07Look, Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib has said,
21:10that after Eid, because before Eid,
21:13a lot of people will be in Itaqaf,
21:16after Eid, the internal session of their community,
21:19which is their decision-making institution,
21:22or decision-making,
21:25which will be their consultation,
21:28in that it will be decided,
21:32I don't see any big problem in that.
21:35So, the protest movement that you are doing on the streets,
21:38are you looking at it in April or May?
21:41Look, I will not say anything about this.
21:44Approximately, I know, you can't give a specific date,
21:47but approximately, I am just trying to gauge.
21:50Look, I will not say anything,
21:53and I also think that we should not do this on the streets either,
21:56this will be a process,
22:00it will be with consultation,
22:03it is not necessary to give an impression of the streets,
22:06that we will run up the hill,
22:09this will not happen.
22:12This movement will move forward in a way,
22:15with clarity and wisdom,
22:18as a movement should move forward.
22:21Everything is on the table in this,
22:24there can be protests on the streets,
22:27there can be talks with the society,
22:30there can be talks with the people of Balochistan,
22:33this will be a movement.
22:36So, the famous dialogue of Maryam Nawaz,
22:39power talks to power,
22:42you are far from that state,
22:45you are far from street power,
22:48you are in the mood of agitation,
22:51you are not in the mood of street power.
22:54The one who understands a little bit of agitation,
22:57he understands that where is Pakistan standing today.
23:00Today, Khan Sahib said that we are being pushed
23:03once again towards 1971, do not do this.
23:06The biggest weakness of the people who have empowered themselves at the moment
23:09is that the ground is slipping under their feet.
23:12They will have to talk to us.
23:15We are not there,
23:18what you call power is not power.
23:21Last 10 seconds, Salman last question, last 10 seconds, government establishment kya sawaye
23:27sadaq ki baat ke koi aur baat sunegi aapki?
23:31Main umeet karta hun ki sunegi, main sanjhta hun ki koi aur baat sunegi nahi hai, establishment
23:38nazar aa raha hai ki mulk ko agar humne aage leke jaana hai to hume maram rakhna hoga,
23:43maram woh khud nahi rak sakte zakhmon par, unko zarurat hai humari, unko Pakistan ki
23:47sabse badi siyasi kuvvat ki zarurat hai.
23:50Salman Akram Raja thank you very much as always for your time, taziin break lete hain, break
23:54ke baad aa ke hume Senator Afnaan Ullah bhi join karenge, Qamar Zaman Kaira sahab bhi
23:59join karenge, doosa perspective bhi le lenge ki ye kaise dekh rahe hain tamaan cheezon
24:03ko.
24:04Let's take a break.
24:05Welcome back to the show, hum baat karenge segment Dr. Afnaan Ullah, Senator hain PMLN
24:17aur Qamar Zaman Kaira sahab, former federal minister, Afnaan sahab abhi aapne baate suni
24:22hai, Salman Akram Raja sahab ki, wo kah rahe hain ki hum bada mudabbarana aur samajdara
24:28na tariqe se tahreek chalayenge, ye taasur na le aap, ki ye koi khali sadak garam hogi
24:34filan hogi, to agar sadak garam nahi hoti, to phir to aap logon ne baat hi nahi unki
24:38suni hai, aap to waise hi nahi unki baat sunte, to agar wo zyada padhe likhon wali tahreek
24:42chalayenge to aap log sunenge.
24:43Ji bismillahir rahmanir rahim, dekhen baat ye hai jo inone sadak garam ye kar sakte the
24:48jitni inone karke pichle 10 saal mein, 2014 se leke pohne 4 saal aap nikaal de inke hukumat
24:54ke, wo inone karke dekhi liya hai, long adadi march, long march, haqeeqi adadi, final call,
25:01sara kuch qaum ke saamne hi hua hai, to usse kya inka result nikla hai, baat ye hai ki
25:07leadership jo hai wo strategy deti hai aisi, jiske tehd aap apne objective ko achieve
25:12kar sakein, jaise Mian Nawaz Sharif sahab ne London se baith ke yaha pe tahreek chalwa
25:15di thi, agar aapne paas strategy hota aap chalwa sakte hain, inke paas strategy hai hi nahi
25:19nahi, arrogant itne hai, kisi ko apne kareeb samjhte nahi hai, bil khusus inke jo baani
25:24hai, to usse phir zyada alliances nahi bante.
25:27Aap log mein koi pressure nahi hai inki tahreek ka aur kisi bhi cheez ka jo baatein ho rahi
25:31hai, alliance ban raha hai, mazaaq to nahi hai?
25:32Woh alliance ye bana le, inka right hai, ye apne agar ye uske apna aayeen aur kaanoon
25:37ke daire mein raha ke itijaz bhi kartein to koi masla nahi, lekin ye jo dhaave bolne wala
25:41maamla hai ki hum Islamabad pe kabza kar lenge, aur hum nizam-e-zindagi rok denge, ye koi
25:45tariqa nahi hai na?
25:46Ye koi...
25:47Woh toh ab keh bhi nahi de hai yaar.
25:48Chale, achi baate nahi keh raha hai aur main khush hoon, main welcome karta hunki is baat
25:52ko, ke woh mudabarana tariqa se agar chalayenge, to ye ho sakte hai unke liye betar natahej
25:57jo unko hasil kar rahe hai.
25:59Khaira sahib, do baate hain, aapne toh bade alliances bante bhi dekhe hain, hisse bhi rahe
26:04hain, aapko alliance banta nazar aata hai, because abhi Salman-e-Akram-e-Azhar sahib
26:08se meri baat ho rahi thi, unko dino ki baat hai, sirf JUI ki meeting honi hai, unki Shura
26:13ki, Eid ke baat, toh ye hafton ki baat nahi hai, dino ki baat hai, alliance bhi banega
26:18aur cheezein bhi hongi, phir Bilawal Bhutto ki jo offer thi, ke ek aur committee ki meeting
26:23ho, toh usme hum bulaate hain, hum role play karte hain, toh unko hai, larger gathering
26:27honi chahiye, sab kuch ho, unhone India toh diya ki hum aayenge, lekin kaafi ifs and
26:32buts hain, yeh bataein aapko inka alliance banta nazar aata hai Maulana ke saath, aur
26:37agar banta hai, toh kya ruling alliance ke liye parishaniyan ho sakte hain?
26:45Malik sahib, maazi ko agar dekhein toh alliance possibility toh hai, ho sakta hai, aisa ho
26:51hai, lekin is waqt mulk ki jo surat-e-haal hai, dashadgardi ki aur digar, ismein koi
26:58badi tahrik chal paayegi, iske amkaan nahi hai, Maulana Fazlur Rehman sahib ke paas
27:03aisi work force hai, unki political force hai, lekin Maulana Fazlur Rehman se hukumat
27:08bhi engage karna chahiye, hukumat ko, aur unke jo grievances hain, khas taur pe Khayber
27:14Pakhtunkhwa ke andar unke election ke, wo bhi sunne chahiye, aur Maulana ko engage
27:18karein, toh wo bade zeerak saisadan hain, mulk ko darpesh is waqt challenges hain, unko
27:23bhi wo dekh rahein hain, aur cheezein kis simmat jaat sakti hain, kitne halat ka bigaad
27:29hai, hum bhi koi bahut khushi ka saath is itihaad ki taraf nahi gaye, Muslim League
27:36ne bhi shayad koi bahut khushi ka saath ya sara kuch kabool nahi kya, is waqt challenge
27:40itna bada hai, ke usse oda bada hone ke liye, aapko wo faisle karne pad rahe hain, jo
27:46siyasi taur pe nuksaan de faisle hain, lekin wo kiye isliye jaa rahe hain, toh uske bagaad
27:51guzaara nahi, aur koi siyasi jamaat bhi afford nahi karti, ab mai samajhta hun ke agar
27:56Maulana ke saath engage kiya jaayega, toh unko bhi tawad deni chahiye, rahi baat PTI
28:02ki, PTI bahut sari jamaaton ke saath alliance kar sakti hai, lekin jis lab-o-lehje mein
28:08wo aaj bhi baat kar rahe hain, apne itihaadi ya mumkina itihaadiyon ke baare mein, wo
28:14lab-o-lehje aur alfaaz jo hain, wo itihaadiyon ke zaaman nahi hote, wo toh poot-poot ke zaaman
28:19bante hain.
28:20Sir, government ke paas kya hai, jo offer kar sakein Maulana sahab ko, aap kahte hain
28:24unko bulayen, chale PTI se government baat karein, toh unke paas hai, chale Imran Khan
28:28ko hum aane denge baahir, hum logon ko chhod denge, Maulana sahab ke paas offer karne
28:33ke liye, aap ke paas hai kya?
28:35Tikhiye, ya toh Maulana ke saath toh baith ke, khula agenda raakh ke, hukumat ko baith
28:45na chahiye, aur unke saath mulki halaat ka tajjia karke, way forward design karne ki
28:50baat karni chahiye, aur mujhe yeh umeed hai, ke Maulana, in halaat mein, election ke upar
28:57toh itminan ka idhaar nahi kar sakte, lekin maazi mein bhi hum sab jamaaton ne, apne
29:03taur pe, electionon ke upar shikaar hote hua, electionon ke andar dhandhni ka, people's
29:09party bhi toh apne bytes vote, apne saamne Patriot patha ke, toh hum bhi toh ahwano mein
29:14bethe rahe the na, so aap halaat ke taht dekhte hain, yeh jo jazbaati faisle hain,
29:19ya jazbaati nare hain, isse toh kaam nahi chalta, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman sahab, bahut
29:24zeerak siyasatdaan hai, unke saath way forward design karke, koi middle ground dekhi jaa
29:29sakti hain, abhi uske baare mein main koi ishaara karoon yeh munasab nahi hain.
29:33Aap logon pe koi pressure hain baat cheet ka, humko dekhne mein lagta hai, aap bade
29:38comfortable bethe hain, aap establishment ek page pe hain, PTI bataur jamaat, apne
29:45nukhri khilafat bhi hain, tittar bittar bhi hain, poora ragda bhi aap logon ne lagaya
29:49bhai, khaans aap andar hain, mustaqe bil kareem mein, abhi toh judicial relief nahi
29:53milti, aap logon pe yeh bhi kaha jaata hai, ki aapne poora judicial setup apni marzi
29:57ke mutaabik bilkul fit kar liya jaise hain aap chahte hain, toh kya aap logon mein bhi
30:02yeh khaas arrogance nahi aa rahi hain power ki, ki yaar hum untouchable hain, jo aapke
30:06ek zamani mein Imran Khan ke baare mein kahte the, abh lagta hai government ka bhi wo
30:10raviya hai, ki theek hai yaar, karla jo toh se karna hai, jahaan aapne ka, kar liya
30:13jo karna hai 10 saal, huroon dekhi jaayegi.
30:16Dekhi hum arrogant nahi hain, main toh yeh tariqi pasmanzar mein rakhe baat kar raha
30:19hun, ki inhone maazi mein jo kuch kiya hain uska kya naseeja nikla hai, baat yeh hai
30:24ki humne ek defa nahi, baar baar, baar baar inko kaha ki charter democracy pe humse
30:27baat karein, aur koi way forward, jiske upar tamaam political parties agree kar jayein,
30:32aa jayein, magar unka focus hi nahi hain in cheezon pe, unka focus hi kahiyon aur hai,
30:37focus yeh hai ki jee mujhe mulaqaat karwa de, jab baat karte mujhe mulaqaat karwa de,
30:41yaar mujhe jail se baar nikaal de, yaar mujhe falani cheez de de, aap apni zaat se baar
30:45nikalke, mulke baare mein sochein, ki agar aap samjhtein, is mulke indar jamuriyat
30:49honi chahiye, aur uske, uske indar behtari lane ki gujjahish hai, aur bilkul hai, to
30:53uske upar baat ki jaye, lekin udar in logon ka koi focus nahi hai, yeh bas isme hi hai
30:57ki kisi tarah ki fayda aa jaaye.
30:59Aapko idea nahi hai ki aap position of strength mein hain, to aap position of strength se baat
31:03kar saktein?
31:04Nahi aap position of strength mein se bilkul hain, kyunki ino ne...
31:06Yeh aapne paas mandate hi nahi hain baat karne ka, kyunki jis taqat ke upar aap hain,
31:10shayad wahan se aapko jazab nahi hogi.
31:13Nahi aisi baat nahi hai, baat yeh hai ki hum log jo hai, woh bohot dafaa, inko engage
31:19karne ki hum ne koshish ki, aap yaad karne, PDM ki government jab aayi pehli dafaa, to
31:23Shahbaz saab, Prime Minister saab ne jo hai, floor of the Parliament ka, ki hum Charter
31:27of Democracy pe baat karne ke liye tayyaar hain, Charter of Economy pe baat karne ke
31:30liye tayyaar hain, magar inki taraf se kya jawab aaya, woh aap saare qaum ke saamne.
31:33To hum siyasi log hain, hum takabur mein nahi hain, hum siyasi log hain, iqtadaar ka
31:38utaar chadao, bohot dafaa humaari leadership dekh chuki hai, to hume aisa kuch masla nahi
31:42hai, hum apne soch samajh ke apne maamlaat ko chalatein.
31:46Qaira saab, government ki line din ba din sakht hoti nazar aa rahi hai, jitni jitni
31:51comfortable position hoti jaa rahi hai, utni sakht hoti nazar aa rahi hai, shayad one
31:55page ka bhi hai, bada hausla hota hai aapko, wo bhi hai, phir judicial system poora overall
32:01ho gaya hai, after 26th amendment, tamang ye cheezin jo saari hain, kya government
32:06wo hi ghalat kar rahi hai, jo khans sahab ne ki, jab wo power mein the, to wo kisi se
32:10baat karne mein mood mein nahi the, to ab maujooda ruling alliance hai, wo bhi hai,
32:14kya kehte hain, jisko arrogance of power kehte hain, uska shikar hoti nazar aati hai.
32:23Aapki aawaz nahi aa rahi hai, Qaira saab, zara usko volume khol dijega.
32:36Audio pe le le, Aapka saab ko audio pe le le.
32:40Ji, Qaira saab bhi das.
32:47Chalain, unko bhi line disconnect hogi hai,
32:49lekin mujhe aap yeh bata hai na, kaunsi aisi gesture hai, jisko aap kahein ke aap log,
32:53masalaan yeh mulaqaat thi, unhone kaha hai, yaar humre bhi mulaqaat karwaa de,
32:57khans sahab se, hum unse directions de ke aa jaayenge meeting ke andar,
33:01aap logon ne nahi karwaa de, yeh chot choti baatein hoti hai.
33:04Yeh dekhein yeh petty maamla.
33:05Doro darf se petty hai na?
33:06Nahi, nahi, woh petty hai, hum log petty nahi hai, baat nahi hai.
33:08Unki toh jaayaj hai, woh apne top leader se milke,
33:10woh leader se agar directions lena chahate hain.
33:13Ismein petty kya hai?
33:15Ismein petty yeh hai, ki aapki jitni mulaqaatin Imran Khan sahab ki jail mein hoyi hain,
33:18kisi Pakistan ki leader ki, jo Wazir Azam.
33:20Aap toh mulaqaat mein gap tha na, aap toh November se nahi hoyi hoi.
33:23Woh har baat nahi, mulaqaat kyu nahi hoyi, jab jaatein unke door jaake milte nahi andar.
33:27Yeh koi baat nahi hai na,
33:28kya jab aap se baat karte hain, toh shahsi baat nahi karte hain,
33:30kya sirf legal baat karte hain.
33:32Main yeh hi keh rahe hoon na,
33:33yeh petty maamla aata hain,
33:34mujhe yeh pata hai,
33:36mein Mian Nawazish sahab ko bohot zaba court lag pa,
33:38jail, apne wali sahab se saath milne ke liye gaya.
33:40Jumairaat ko mulaqaat ka din hota tha,
33:42woh humein nikaal dete the baar,
33:43nahi karne dete, aaj hum aapko mulaqaat.
33:45Toh hum phir baar aa jaate the,
33:46mujhe aaj ek din Valentine's day tha,
33:48wali sahab se saath the,
33:49nahi unko milne diya.
33:50Bahar khadho ke press conference bhi ki,
33:52sab kuch kiya.
33:53Aap Valentine's day Mian sahab ko milne gaya tha?
33:55Aap Valentine's day Mian Nawazish sahab ko milne gaya tha.
33:58Zindagi mein priorities kumdi theek karein.
34:00Priorities theek hain.
34:02Toh yeh Imran Khan sahab jo yeh anokhe ladle hain.
34:05Yeh kehte hain ki,
34:06jeh mere liye toh kanoon bhi nahi hoga,
34:08mere liye qaida bhi nahi hoga,
34:09jail manual bhi nahi hoga,
34:11main jo hoon wo asmaan se utara hoon,
34:13yeh baagi saare yeh keede makode hain,
34:15mere liye jo hai wo har cheez exceptional hogi.
34:17Yeh nahi ho sakta na.
34:19Aap apne mulaqato se bahar nikhlein,
34:21aap apne jail ke maamlaat se bahar nikhlein,
34:24aap khud toh jab hukumat mein...
34:26Aapki government dil kyun nahi bada karte hain?
34:28Hum kisi ka AC le lenge,
34:29kisi ka pankha le lenge,
34:30humne toh kaisa kaam nahi kiya,
34:31jo cheez saoolat aapko mil sakte hain,
34:33humne de diya.
34:34Hum petty hote toh hum yeh harkate karte hain,
34:36ki hum jo hai wo cheeni phek de the,
34:37uske indar cell mein,
34:38aur wo ape keede kathe ho jate hain,
34:39kaisa Rana Sahib ke saath kiya gaya,
34:41wo jarabe pehne ke jail mein baithte the,
34:43taake wo koi kaate nahi aake,
34:45yeh jo kide makode.
34:47Toh yeh iss tarah ke harkate hain,
34:48humne toh koi nahi ki na.
34:49Hum bade sanjeeta log hai,
34:50aur aaj bhi unko...
34:51Toh aise hi chalega?
34:52Yani yeh se chal raha hai?
34:53Unke end ke par problem hai,
34:55humare end pe nahi.
34:56Aur phir doosri ek aur baat bhi dekhein,
34:57jo party 9 May kar rahi hain,
34:59jo party 26 November kar rahi hain,
35:00jo party jo hai,
35:02wo musalsal wifaq pe hamla kar rahi hain,
35:06uske saath unki harkate bhi toh
35:08aap dekhena ke kya hain,
35:09khali humara toh koi kasoor nahi hain.
35:10Jee, jee Kaira sahib.
35:12Uska... uska...
35:13kat gaya tha.
35:14Jee, maalik sahib.
35:15Mera, mera sawal aapne sun liya tha?
35:18Haan nahi,
35:19maine suka dhara dabara repeat kar rahein.
35:21Chale, chale,
35:22main ek doosra sawal kar deta hoon,
35:23lekin usi, usi,
35:24usi naayiyat ka hai,
35:25main yeh kaira hoon,
35:26ke yeh jo
35:27Arrogance of Power ka taasur ban raha hai,
35:30jo khansaab bhi
35:31apne zamana mein
35:33aur
35:34Afnaan mein uspe
35:35kaafi baatein sunayi,
35:36ke yeh kar denge,
35:37wo kar denge.
35:38Lagta hai,
35:39wohi ravaiya
35:40ab is ruling
35:41jamaat ka bhi hai,
35:42kyun ke ek banda
35:43jo Punjabi mein
35:44kehte hain,
35:45daad thale aa gaya,
35:46toh ab ragar do.
35:47Kya
35:48government ko
35:49zyada generosity
35:50dikha ke,
35:51koi lachak dikha ke,
35:52koi baachit
35:53nahi badhaani chahiye?
35:54Ke tit for tat
35:55hi chalega?
35:56Maalik sahib,
35:57yeh humari
35:58bajkasamti hai,
35:59woh kehte hain na
36:00taarikh ka
36:01sabse bada sabak
36:02hum saare
36:03taarikh ka
36:04dhakhe ka chuke
36:05lekin jab
36:06iqtadaar mein
36:07hote hain,
36:08toh kuch
36:09mujbooriyan hoti hain
36:10aur kuch
36:11iqtadaar ke
36:12nashaib bhi hote hain,
36:13toh ab us
36:14seeda raste
36:15pe jo
36:16jo apko
36:17advise ki jati hai,
36:18jo akli dalil
36:19di jati hai,
36:20kyun ke wo
36:21mantiki dalilin
36:22jo hoti hain,
36:23yeh akal ki baatein
36:24jo hoti hain,
36:25isme kuch na
36:26kuch aapko
36:27kamzori dikhani,
36:28kamzori na
36:29sabjiye,
36:30balke aapko
36:31kuch na
36:32kuch
36:33adjustment
36:34karni
36:35padti hain,
36:36aur uske
36:37ek
36:38siyasi
36:39keemat
36:40hoti hain,
36:41usko hum
36:42dene
36:43ko
36:44tyaar
36:45nahi
36:46hote hain,
36:47yeh badi
36:48badkasamti
36:49hain,
36:50aur
36:51mein
36:52samajhta
36:53hun,
36:54ke
36:55PTI
36:56ka
36:57rawayiya
36:58bhi bahot
36:59arrogance
37:00laganimity
37:01hai na,
37:02wo
37:03show
37:04karni
37:05chahiye,
37:06bade
37:07dil
37:08ka
37:09mazahira
37:10karna
37:11chahiye,
37:12lekin
37:13ek
37:14kaam
37:15yeh bhi
37:16hai
37:17maalik,
37:18siyasat
37:19ke andar
37:20jo
37:21problem
37:22hota hain na
37:23genuine,
37:24wo yeh hota
37:25hain,
37:26ke agar
37:27aap bahot
37:28zyada
37:29aap
37:30rawayiya
37:31hote hain,
37:32na
37:33sirf
37:34anti-establishment
37:35rawayiya
37:36hota hain,
37:37na
37:38sirf
37:39anti-establishment
37:40rawayiya
37:41hota hain,
37:42na
37:43sirf
37:44anti-establishment
37:45rawayiya
37:46hota hain,
37:47na
37:48sirf
37:49anti-establishment
37:50rawayiya
37:51hota hain,
37:52na
37:53sirf
37:54anti-establishment
37:55rawayiya
37:56hota hain,
37:57na
37:58sirf
37:59anti-establishment
38:00rawayiya
38:01hota hain,
38:02na
38:03sirf
38:04anti-establishment
38:05rawayiya
38:06hota hain,
38:07na
38:08sirf
38:09anti-establishment
38:10rawayiya
38:11hota hain,
38:12na
38:13sirf
38:14anti-establishment
38:15rawayiya
38:16hota hain,
38:17na
38:18sirf
38:19anti-establishment
38:20rawayiya
38:21hota hain,
38:22na
38:23sirf
38:24anti-establishment
38:25rawayiya
38:26hota hain,
38:27na
38:28sirf
38:29anti-establishment
38:30rawayiya
38:31hota hain,
38:32na
38:33sirf
38:34anti-establishment
38:35rawayiya
38:36hota hain,
38:37na
38:38sirf
38:39anti-establishment
38:40rawayiya
38:41hota hain,
38:42na
38:43sirf
38:44anti-establishment
38:45rawayiya
38:46hota hain,
38:47na
38:48sirf
38:49anti-establishment
38:50rawayiya
38:51hota hain,
38:52na
38:53sirf
38:54anti-establishment
38:55rawayiya
38:56hota hain,
38:57na
38:58sirf
38:59anti-establishment
39:00rawayiya
39:01hota hain,
39:02na
39:03sirf
39:04anti-establishment
39:05rawayiya
39:06hota hain,
39:07na
39:08sirf
39:09anti-establishment
39:10rawayiya
39:11hota hain,
39:12na
39:13sirf
39:14anti-establishment
39:15rawayiya
39:16hota hain,
39:17na
39:18sirf
39:19anti-establishment
39:20rawayiya
39:21hota hain,
39:22na
39:23sirf
39:24anti-establishment
39:25rawayiya
39:26hota hain,
39:27na
39:28sirf
39:29anti-establishment
39:30rawayiya
39:31hota hain,
39:32na
39:33sirf
39:34anti-establishment
39:35rawayiya
39:36hota hain,
39:37na
39:38sirf
39:39anti-establishment
39:40rawayiya
39:41hota hain,
39:42na
39:43sirf
39:44anti-establishment
39:45rawayiya
39:46hota hain,
39:47na
39:48sirf
39:49anti-establishment
39:50rawayiya
39:51hota hain,
39:52na
39:53sirf
39:54anti-establishment
39:55rawayiya
39:56hota hain,
39:57na
39:58sirf
39:59anti-establishment
40:00rawayiya
40:01hota hain,
40:02na
40:03sirf
40:04anti-establishment
40:05rawayiya
40:06hota hain,
40:07na
40:08sirf
40:09anti-establishment
40:10rawayiya
40:11hota hain,
40:12na
40:13sirf
40:14anti-establishment
40:15rawayiya
40:16hota hain,
40:17na
40:18sirf
40:19anti-establishment
40:20rawayiya
40:21hota hain,
40:22na
40:23sirf
40:24anti-establishment
40:25rawayiya
40:26hota hain,
40:27na
40:28sirf
40:29anti-establishment
40:30rawayiya
40:31hota hain,
40:32na
40:33sirf
40:34anti-establishment
40:35rawayiya
40:36hota hain,
40:37na
40:38sirf
40:39anti-establishment
40:40rawayiya
40:41hota hain,
40:42na
40:43sirf
40:44anti-establishment
40:45rawayiya
40:46hota hain,
40:47na
40:48sirf
40:49anti-establishment
40:50rawayiya
40:51hota hain,
40:52na
40:53sirf
40:54anti-establishment
40:55rawayiya
40:56hota hain,
40:57na
40:58sirf
40:59anti-establishment
41:00rawayiya
41:01hota hain,
41:02na
41:03sirf
41:04anti-establishment
41:05rawayiya
41:06hota hain,
41:07na
41:08sirf
41:09anti-establishment
41:10rawayiya
41:11hota hain,
41:12na
41:13sirf
41:14anti-establishment
41:15rawayiya
41:16hota hain,
41:17na
41:18sirf
41:19anti-establishment
41:20rawayiya
41:21hota hain,
41:22na
41:23sirf
41:24anti-establishment
41:25rawayiya
41:26hota hain,
41:27na
41:28sirf
41:29anti-establishment
41:30rawayiya
41:31hota hain,
41:32na
41:33sirf
41:34anti-establishment
41:35rawayiya
41:36hota hain,
41:37na
41:38sirf
41:39anti-establishment
41:40rawayiya
41:41hota hain,
41:42na
41:43sirf
41:44anti-establishment
41:45rawayiya
41:46hota hain,
41:47na
41:48sirf
41:49anti-establishment
41:50rawayiya
41:51hota hain,
41:52na
41:53sirf
41:54anti-establishment
41:55rawayiya
41:56hota hain,
41:57na
41:58sirf
41:59anti-establishment
42:00rawayiya
42:01hota hain,
42:02na
42:03sirf
42:04anti-establishment
42:05rawayiya
42:06hota hain,
42:07na
42:08sirf
42:09anti-establishment
42:10rawayiya
42:11hota hain,
42:12na
42:13sirf
42:14anti-establishment
42:15rawayiya
42:16hota hain,
42:17na
42:18sirf