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"Those who take innocent lives cannot be talked to..." Sharmila Farooqi's Statement
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- Sharmila Farooqi PPP
"Those who take innocent lives cannot be talked to..." Sharmila Farooqi's Statement
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Peace be upon you, dear viewers.
00:10I hope you are all doing well.
00:13I am your host, Ashfaq Ishaq Satti.
00:15As I have mentioned, it is the last day of Ramadhan and people are busy preparing for Eid.
00:21But after Eid, what will our politics look like?
00:25There have been many discussions about this.
00:27Some are talking about Grand Alliances.
00:29Some are talking about forming an Alliance.
00:31Some are talking about running a movement against the government.
00:33But we are seeing that for PTI, one relief they have received is that some of their people have been given permission to meet Bani PTI.
00:44This is one thing.
00:45Secondly, we have seen that Babur Abaan was given permission to meet PTI.
00:50He was later objected to this.
00:52This permission was probably taken back.
00:55The concerns that were being raised on this issue were sorted out.
01:01Secondly, it is very important that the issue of terrorism.
01:04You saw that a Parliamentary Committee meeting was held.
01:08The military leadership was present.
01:10The Prime Minister was present.
01:12Opposition parties were also present.
01:14The Government Alliance was also present.
01:16There was a discussion about how to control terrorism.
01:22Because this is a very big challenge.
01:24And the challenge is that the enemies of the country, who are present inside the country and outside the country,
01:30are going towards the Balkanization of Pakistan.
01:34And Balochistan is their target.
01:37So what should we do?
01:38The military leadership was present.
01:40There were discussions.
01:41But Bilal Bhutto Zardari gave a statement.
01:44He said that there is a need for a national consensus on terrorism.
01:49A meeting should be called again.
01:51He appealed to the Prime Minister.
01:53So what did he say first?
01:55Let's listen to it.
01:56Then we will talk further.
01:58A national security meeting was called.
02:01The political parties did not participate in the meeting.
02:07We appeal to the Prime Minister.
02:09What kind of meeting should be called again?
02:12As far as the defense of the country is concerned,
02:15all political parties should forget their personal issues,
02:19create a community,
02:21and defend their country, their nation, and their people.
02:25Whatever role the Pakistan People's Party can play in this,
02:29if they help the government and engage with other political parties,
02:33then they are ready to play that role.
02:37Last night, this statement was given by Bilal Bhutto Zardari.
02:41And you see, which parties did not participate at that time?
02:45The biggest party was Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
02:48in which we saw that they were told by everyone
02:51that you should have participated in this.
02:53However, you see that the people inside the PTI,
02:56they were also told that this is not a matter of politics.
03:00Whether you want to meet Maulana Sahib or not,
03:02whether you want to meet the Prime Minister or not,
03:04this is a matter of national level.
03:06This is a matter on which we need to show unity.
03:09So we should have participated in it.
03:11However, now it is being said,
03:13and along with that,
03:14Mehmood Khan Achakzai Sahib was not there,
03:16then Akhtar Mengal Sahib was not there,
03:18so now it is being said that everyone should sit together again.
03:21Salman Akram Raja Sahib,
03:23the leaders of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
03:26We should sit together again.
03:28Let us consult with Imran Khan Sahib.
03:31We will sit together again.
03:33Call a new session.
03:34This was a session of 40 people.
03:36Give it a little space.
03:37We say that this should be a big meeting.
03:39It can be 80 people.
03:41Why 40 if you do not want to call a joint session?
03:43So let's talk a little about the reality of this,
03:46so that there is a meaningful meeting,
03:48so that there is a result of this.
03:50If there is a meaningful meeting,
03:52if there is a result,
03:54so is there no result before this?
03:56We will try to find an answer to this.
03:59If we talk about political issues,
04:01then JUI and Tehreek-e-Insaf,
04:03you know that they want to make a grand alliance.
04:06Some suggestions were also considered,
04:08that Mehmood Khan Achakzai Sahib should be the President,
04:10and Maulana Sahib should be made the Chairman of the Union,
04:13or in the same way,
04:14some promises should be given,
04:15so that both parties are satisfied,
04:17on the leadership of the alliance.
04:19The second is that,
04:20on the side of JUI,
04:21Kamran Muttaza Sahib tweeted,
04:23that the agreement with JUI,
04:26or whatever will be discussed,
04:28will be written.
04:29That is, they do not agree on linguistic things.
04:32There are also many such matters,
04:34on which there is a need for further discussion.
04:37The matter of PIA's subjugation is in front of you.
04:39The matter of the canals,
04:40on the river Sindh,
04:41that matter is in its place.
04:42So let's talk a little about this.
04:44The guests in the program,
04:45let us introduce them to you.
04:47Iqtiyar Wali Sahib is present with us.
04:48Thank you very much for your time.
04:49He is the coordinator of the Prime Minister,
04:51on the issues of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
04:52Thank you very much.
04:53Umair Niazi Sahib,
04:54Barrister Umair Niazi Sahib,
04:55is joining us from Lahore.
04:56He will represent Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:58And Sharmila Farooqui Sahiba,
05:00is from the Pakistan People's Party,
05:02and will present the People's Party position.
05:05So, Sharmila Sahiba,
05:07let us start with you.
05:08The statement that Bilawal Sahib gave yesterday,
05:10earlier we thought that,
05:12all the things had come into discussion,
05:14but one question was arising,
05:15that this discussion,
05:17we also spoke to Rana Sanaullah Sahib,
05:19so we asked him,
05:20are we going towards an operation?
05:22Was there going to be an operation?
05:24Like in 2014,
05:25after the National Action Plan was made,
05:27we went towards an operation,
05:29but he said,
05:30no, there is nothing like that.
05:31The operations that were taking place,
05:32will continue.
05:33So, was there any doubt,
05:35from the operational point of view,
05:37because of which,
05:38Bilawal Sahib wants the meeting to be held again?
05:44Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Sati.
05:46Look,
05:47the issue of terrorism,
05:51is extremely worrisome.
05:54You must remember,
05:55that when the President of the country,
05:57Asif Ali Zardari,
05:58addressed the Parliament this time,
06:01he specifically made it clear,
06:04that terrorism is rising again.
06:07And a few moments later,
06:10this Jaffar Express incident took place.
06:13It was a horrific incident.
06:15And we talk about it,
06:17we listen to it,
06:18and we say it as well,
06:20that the wave of terrorism in Pakistan,
06:23when it rises,
06:24it eats so many families.
06:27In 2024, Mr. Sati,
06:29in Pakistan's 10 year history,
06:32the highest rate of terrorism was 905.
06:35Many thousands of innocent people lost their lives.
06:38Many of our soldiers were martyred.
06:41The thing is,
06:42the more consensus is developed on this,
06:45the better.
06:46If there is no political consensus,
06:49from a group of people in Pakistan,
06:51or a few people,
06:54no matter how small or big the group is,
06:56if there is no political consensus,
06:58then there is no credibility.
07:00Look, People's Party always
07:02does consensus politics.
07:04You must remember,
07:05when we had to operate in Swat,
07:07the President of the country,
07:08Mr. Asif Ali Zardari,
07:09was the President of the country.
07:11The entire Parliament was trusted.
07:13The entire Parliament's goodwill
07:18and good wishes were with the Pak Army.
07:22But this happened here as well.
07:24Within three months,
07:25we brought Pakistan's flag back to Swat.
07:27Look, this meeting...
07:30Let me ask a question.
07:32I wanted to know,
07:33that there was a discussion here,
07:36the political parties were present,
07:37the People's Party was present,
07:39the political leaders gave their opinion,
07:41then there was an announcement
07:43by the Prime Minister,
07:44then there was an announcement
07:45by the ISPR as well.
07:47After that, things were sorted.
07:50What was left to be discussed?
07:53The consensus has to be built.
07:55That can be a separate deliberation.
07:57Look, Mr. Satti,
07:59in the Parliament,
08:01whether you like it or you don't like it,
08:03PTI is also a group,
08:07which has its own members.
08:09Now, whether they come or not,
08:12is a separate discussion.
08:14Why didn't they come?
08:15They should have come.
08:16To boycott such a sensitive issue
08:19of national unity,
08:21I think, is unfair on their part.
08:24And a consensus that is being built,
08:28and has been built by all the other groups,
08:31should have come on their part as well.
08:33They should have had their input
08:35in this meeting.
08:36And their consent should have been included as well.
08:40The second thing is,
08:42hard state or soft state?
08:45The thing is,
08:47you have to end terrorism.
08:50People don't want to hear
08:52what is right and what is wrong.
08:53People want to protect their lives and wealth.
08:55Balochistan has problems,
08:58some genuine problems,
09:00some are being exploited,
09:03by Afghanistan and India.
09:06This is also a reality.
09:08And we cannot deny it.
09:10Similarly, in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
09:12the situation is very bad.
09:15We have to look at all these things.
09:17It is not that one meeting and the matter is over.
09:21There should be an ongoing discussion on this.
09:23There should be an ongoing consensus.
09:25And there is no harm in having more deliberation on this.
09:29To improve the situation further,
09:32you should include more people in the discussion.
09:35But one meeting cannot be over.
09:37I understand.
09:38There is always room for improvisation.
09:40Mr. Iqtiyaz,
09:41one thing is,
09:42when this happened,
09:43we asked at that time,
09:45because earlier it was said,
09:46APC.
09:47Under the umbrella of APC,
09:49all these things are covered.
09:51Then there was a meeting of the Parliamentary Committee.
09:53And after the announcement,
09:54we asked,
09:55is that enough?
09:57Then it was said,
09:58that is it.
09:59Now,
10:00PTI,
10:01by choice,
10:02due to the reasons,
10:04they did not get permission to participate,
10:07or they contacted,
10:09or they did not contact,
10:10or they spoke to the government,
10:12but later,
10:13they did not participate.
10:14Now,
10:15if any party does not participate,
10:17then this pattern will be repeated.
10:19There is no harm in discussions.
10:20But,
10:21do you agree with Mr. Bilawal's suggestion
10:23that it should be done again?
10:24Thank you very much.
10:25Thank you very much.
10:26Mr. Ashfaq,
10:27look,
10:28the meeting of the National Security Committee,
10:31there,
10:32no line of action,
10:34or no course of action,
10:35had to be decided.
10:37In the National Security Committee,
10:39they were told,
10:41that this meeting is being called,
10:44so that you can be taken in the loop,
10:47you can be told,
10:49what is happening in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
10:51what is happening in Balochistan,
10:53what is happening in which corner of this country,
10:55who is doing it,
10:56who are their facilitators,
10:58who is funding them,
11:00who are their sponsors,
11:02and what are their ultimate goals.
11:05Now,
11:06in such circumstances,
11:07if this is the agenda,
11:09and you say,
11:10let us meet,
11:11then we will sit.
11:13Does it make any sense?
11:15No.
11:16Not at all.
11:17If I ever find out,
11:19that there is a fire in my country,
11:21or in my house,
11:22then I will ask,
11:23whether I will go to put out the fire or not.
11:25No.
11:26Some decisions,
11:28your chairman,
11:30if you consider him to be your chairman,
11:32Barrister Gohar,
11:33your opposition leader,
11:34your parliamentary leader,
11:35some decisions,
11:36you should make them yourself.
11:37Now, there is clarity.
11:39Now,
11:40the statement that Mr. Bilawal has given,
11:42I really appreciate that.
11:44It is a very good thing.
11:45If you need a national consensus,
11:47not once,
11:48but again,
11:49if you need more deliberation,
11:51if you need to bring people together,
11:53then do it.
11:54The program was that,
11:55after the National Secretary Committee meeting,
11:57there will be an All Parties Conference.
11:59This was the program?
12:00Yes.
12:01And in the All Parties Conference,
12:03all the parties will be brought together,
12:05and then they will tell the people,
12:07a line of action.
12:08This was the procedure.
12:09And about this,
12:10the senior leadership of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
12:12they all know about it.
12:14But the rebellion that they have shown,
12:16I am really being a democrat,
12:18being a political activist.
12:20This plan that you are talking about,
12:22this was the plan,
12:23that first,
12:24there will be a parliamentary committee meeting,
12:26on national security,
12:27and then there will be an APC.
12:29So, this was conveyed to Mr. Bilawal,
12:31to all the parties?
12:32Exactly.
12:33When you take the first step,
12:34then there is a second step.
12:36Then there is a third step.
12:37Obviously,
12:38this was his plan,
12:39this was his method.
12:41But,
12:42what Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaf did on this occasion,
12:44I think,
12:45that was wrong.
12:46Even now,
12:47I say,
12:49forget these things.
12:50That in 2014,
12:51you protested,
12:52that was planned,
12:53forget it.
12:55In 2014,
12:56you got a mandate,
12:57that was engineered,
12:58forget it.
12:59Even we forget.
13:00We will talk about this again,
13:02even if not today.
13:03In the 2024 election,
13:04you put a ban on Forum 47,
13:06even we put it aside for now,
13:08even you put it aside.
13:10Right now,
13:11the country is on fire.
13:12Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is burning.
13:14Today,
13:15how are your conditions in Kurum,
13:17how are you in Waziristan,
13:18how are you in Tank?
13:19The condition of your taste is not good.
13:21Even,
13:22there are protests in Peshawar.
13:24Maulana Samil Haq's son,
13:25Maulana Hamid Ul Haq,
13:26was martyred.
13:27Maulana Mufti Munir Shakir
13:29was martyred.
13:30Every day,
13:31there are massacres.
13:32In Balochistan,
13:33Jaffar Express,
13:34the entire train,
13:35was kidnapped.
13:36Yes,
13:37it was made a hostage.
13:38Hundreds of people were kidnapped.
13:41And you say,
13:42release our prisoner.
13:43You say,
13:44no,
13:45meet us.
13:46Just,
13:47I mean,
13:48this very small stance,
13:50the level you are taking,
13:52it does not suit you.
13:54What you say,
13:55we have a very big party,
13:57we have a very big crowd,
13:58we have a very big crowd,
13:59we have a big fan following.
14:01So,
14:02according to that,
14:03you will have to
14:04express the same responsibility.
14:07You should behave like that.
14:08Mr. Barrister,
14:09You should behave like that.
14:10Now,
14:11it is that,
14:12one,
14:13your meetings have also been opened.
14:15Meetings are also being held.
14:17So,
14:18should India be taken from this,
14:20that the suggestion given by Mr. Bilawal,
14:22that the meeting should be called again.
14:24So,
14:25after the consultation,
14:26will you participate,
14:27or,
14:28what will be its procedure?
14:30In the name of Allah,
14:31Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
14:32Fundamentally,
14:33you are talking about
14:34the opening of meetings.
14:35Fundamentally,
14:36today was the first meeting,
14:37and that too,
14:38was the meeting of Bukla.
14:39It was the day of the family meeting.
14:41And this meeting,
14:42has not yet been held
14:43by any of the political liberals.
14:44It is their Friday.
14:45Now,
14:46on Friday,
14:47when the meeting will take place,
14:48the real thing will be known.
14:49But,
14:50what is the need to see?
14:51See,
14:52October,
14:53So,
14:54how did Babur Awan leave?
14:55Till now,
14:56Babur Awan is a lawyer.
14:57See,
14:58you,
14:59Mr. Salman Raja,
15:00he is a lawyer.
15:01In Mr. Khan's case,
15:02he is a lawyer.
15:03Now,
15:04see,
15:05the duration of four and a half months,
15:06see,
15:07how many political meetings are there in this?
15:09Basically,
15:10Mr. Khan was kept near to isolation.
15:12What is the reason?
15:13That,
15:14the relationship between the party and them will be broken.
15:16When there is such a situation,
15:18you are expecting that,
15:19justice will take perfect decisions.
15:21It becomes very difficult,
15:23to operate in such an environment.
15:25This is the courage of the party.
15:26The party,
15:27still,
15:28ran things,
15:29tried to fill those gaps.
15:31Today,
15:32there was a very detailed meeting.
15:33Now,
15:34what Mr. Khan has said,
15:35we will meet on Thursday.
15:36Then,
15:37Mr. Salman Raja has already met.
15:38He is also the secretary general of the party.
15:40He is calling the shots.
15:41He has met today.
15:42He has given instructions.
15:43He has given instructions.
15:44Now,
15:45the political people will go.
15:46Now,
15:47see,
15:48Mr. Salman Raja,
15:49meeting once,
15:50solves all the problems.
15:51See,
15:52which party are you talking about?
15:53The majority party.
15:54Now,
15:55see,
15:56you are talking about Balochistan.
15:57Terrorism,
15:58this seems to be a very good thing to say,
15:59that,
16:00yes,
16:01fine,
16:02we will try to put out the fire.
16:03But,
16:04are we seeing,
16:05who is putting woods in this fire?
16:06See,
16:07we are not tackling that thing.
16:08If you,
16:09just see the operational side,
16:10that,
16:11on principle,
16:12tell me this,
16:13tell me this,
16:14on principle,
16:15do you feel that,
16:16this decision of yours was right,
16:17not being a part of it at that time?
16:18Because,
16:19I,
16:20then again,
16:21I will say this only,
16:22that,
16:23if this meeting was with a political party,
16:24then it would have been different.
16:25That,
16:26yes,
16:27you are meeting the Noon League,
16:28or you are meeting the JUI,
16:29or you are meeting the People's Party,
16:30that would have been something different.
16:31This was a matter of national security.
16:32And,
16:33if it was a matter of love for the country,
16:34then we all make promises,
16:35we also take oaths.
16:36So,
16:37for that,
16:38what is the need to ask?
16:40See,
16:41now,
16:42if you sugar-coat it,
16:43as Iqtiyar Bhai has said,
16:44however you do it,
16:45it will sound very good.
16:46But,
16:47what we have said,
16:48what was announced,
16:49there was such a thing that,
16:50what is the mandate,
16:51what is the briefing to be done,
16:52overall,
16:53apart from the briefing,
16:54some steps will be taken.
16:55Overall,
16:56a day before,
16:57it is said that,
16:58there is a security briefing in a closed camera.
17:00Now,
17:01what are its TORs,
17:02what is going to happen,
17:03no one knows.
17:04Suddenly,
17:05there is a commotion.
17:06Even then,
17:07even then,
17:08it is not said that,
17:09we do not want to participate in this.
17:10It keeps the conditions,
17:11with whom to meet.
17:12And,
17:13the next day,
17:14there is also a political meeting of Khan Sahib.
17:15I mean,
17:16that day,
17:17it could have happened.
17:18Barrister Gauhar,
17:19from 9 in the morning,
17:20was already present outside Adiala.
17:21The same meeting,
17:22which was done at 2 in the afternoon,
17:23can it not be done at 9 in the morning?
17:24If it could be done at 9,
17:25then,
17:26there are many things for that.
17:27The name has also been given,
17:28first.
17:29See,
17:30the name has also been sent,
17:31first.
17:32Then,
17:33after that,
17:34at 12 in the evening,
17:35a letter is being written to the Speaker.
17:36See,
17:37we have not denied it.
17:38See,
17:39we have not denied it.
17:40We have not accepted it.
17:41We have not denied it.
17:42We have not participated in it.
17:43We have just said that,
17:44let us meet Imran Khan Sahib,
17:45so that there is visibility.
17:46See,
17:47you can come at any time.
17:48See,
17:49the way...
17:50Alright.
17:51Alright.
17:52I got your point.
17:53I will come to this point again.
17:54Mr. Sharmilal,
17:55please tell me,
17:56that the first meeting that took place,
17:57when Bilawal Sahib is appealing,
17:58or is making a request to the Prime Minister,
17:59I remember the previous pointers,
18:00which Bilawal Sahib had spoken about.
18:01He said that,
18:02if Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib
18:03can give the National Action Plan,
18:04then,
18:06then why cannot Mian Shahbaz Sharif Sahib
18:07give the National Action Plan 2?
18:09After Bilawul Bhutto,
18:10Zardari Sahib's
18:11National Security meeting,
18:12or the results,
18:14was he hoping for
18:18another upgrade of the National Action Plan?
18:21Or some points to be added?
18:23Or were some things missing?
18:29See,
18:30Sati Sahib,
18:31seeing the situation,
18:32matters and time,
18:33There is something that is lacking now.
18:36There is something that is lacking now.
18:39There is something that is lacking now.
18:42There is something that is lacking now.
18:45There is something that is lacking now.
18:48There is something that is lacking now.
18:51There is something that is lacking now.
18:54There is something that is lacking now.
18:57There is something that is lacking now.
19:00There is something that is lacking now.
19:03There is something that is lacking now.
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20:48Are you aware of this?
20:51Are you aware of this?
20:54This is the government.
20:57We will support the government on every national issue.
21:00We will support the government on every national issue.
21:03We will support the government on every national issue.
21:06We will support the government on every national issue.
21:09We will support the government on every national issue.
21:12We will support the government on every national issue.
21:15When Jaffar Express announced that they will support the government on every national issue.
21:20They supported the government on every issue.
21:23They supported the government on every issue.
21:26You can call APC Audience.
21:29You can call APC Audience.
21:40You have to estate this war.
21:42We will have to own this nation.
21:46Until you don't have people's will, you can't win this war.
21:51When did you win the operation in Swat?
21:53The whole nation's power was behind you.
21:55The operation took place in three months.
21:57There were displacements.
21:58People were evacuated again.
22:00This was a successful way.
22:01Bibi Sahiba was martyred by saying,
22:03I will wave the flag of Pakistan in Swat.
22:06You will wave it.
22:07She also addressed the public.
22:10When Bibi Sahiba was martyred,
22:13Asif Ali Zardari said the slogan of Pakistan Khappe.
22:16It was a very sensitive time.
22:19We had literally lost the war of terrorism.
22:23But we got up from there.
22:25We developed consensus.
22:27We waved the flag of Pakistan in Swat.
22:29We cleared it from terrorists.
22:32Today is a very difficult time for the nation.
22:36Everyone will have to come together.
22:38Irrespective of Imran Khan, Noh Khan.
22:41Irrelevant.
22:42Anybody and everybody is irrelevant.
22:44Right now, the peace of this country,
22:47The survival of this country,
22:49The peace of this country should be your priority.
22:51Everyone's.
22:52Politics will continue.
22:53If the country remains, you will do politics.
22:55If the country does not remain, what will you do?
22:57Your identity is with this country.
22:59Setting conditions in it,
23:01Meet them, leave them on the payroll.
23:03This is a sad thing.
23:05I was sad to hear these things.
23:07After the discussion on national security,
23:13We saw that an announcement was issued by the government.
23:16Then ANP issued its own announcement.
23:18JAUI talked about it.
23:20They said that we were not included in the announcement.
23:23We were not talked to.
23:25Do you think that the further discussion should take place,
23:28The way they are talking about National Action Plan 2,
23:32That is, there are some points on which they want,
23:35Mr. Bilawal's further deliberation,
23:37Some comprehensive, some other plan should be brought.
23:40Do you agree with this?
23:42Look, first of all,
23:44I would also like to answer Mr. Riaz's point.
23:48Who is putting wood in this fire?
23:50The statement given by the National Party,
23:55That too, the leadership of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
23:59The main theme of the National Security Committee,
24:03The main aim of the National Security Committee,
24:05They tried to destroy it.
24:08Ali Amin Ghandapur made a statement,
24:11That no operation will be allowed.
24:14Now tell me,
24:16The people who were sitting in that security committee,
24:19Has anyone said that there is going to be an operation?
24:22So was he talking about public consumption?
24:24Sir, that's what I'm saying.
24:26First of all, you have become the Chief Minister of a province,
24:30Then your leadership, Mr. Omar Ayub,
24:33The opposition leader,
24:35He said that no operation will be allowed.
24:37Where did the mention of the operation come from?
24:39Then the MLA of the National Party,
24:42And the Jamiatul Ulama-e-Islam,
24:44Had to clarify that there was no mention of the operation,
24:47And we are also not supporting the operation.
24:50As I told you earlier,
24:52The meeting of the National Security Committee,
24:55At that time, first of all, the National Leadership Committee,
24:58Had to give an in-camera briefing,
25:00And all the pros and cons were being told to them,
25:02What are the conditions on the ground?
25:04Who is it? What is it? What is it doing?
25:06What is the agenda?
25:07Who are its facilitators?
25:09Who are the sponsors?
25:10And who is promoting it?
25:12So you missed such a meeting.
25:15And above all,
25:17Nobody can deny it,
25:20The social media of PTI,
25:23Which has been fighting for real freedom,
25:25And has been speaking for it,
25:27Why did you shoot?
25:28And so on and so forth,
25:30Which makes a narrative of their routine.
25:33All that social media,
25:35That day,
25:36Was talking about the BLA.
25:38They were saying what the Indian media was saying.
25:41Till today,
25:42Okay, keep this aside,
25:44The atrocity on this,
25:46Imran Khan's condemnation has not come yet.
25:49Why didn't it come?
25:51It should have come.
25:52We will continue this debate later.
25:55We will also take an answer from Mr. Umair.
25:56We will see. I will be back after the break.
26:00After the break,
26:01We welcome you once again,
26:02Mr. Barrister Umair Niazi.
26:04This,
26:05About the use of social media,
26:08Obviously,
26:09The identity of a party comes in front of it.
26:12And a line of the party is also in front of it,
26:14The way it connects with the public.
26:16So do you think there should be a little bit of responsibility on this?
26:20Or,
26:21Do you know who is in control right now?
26:25Okay,
26:26What you said is right.
26:28Look, you know yourself,
26:29Imran Khan is the leader of a single country,
26:31Whose jail trials are going on.
26:33Before today,
26:34No leader's jail trials were going on.
26:36Everyone used to come out,
26:37Be it Adyala,
26:38Be it Kotlakpat,
26:39Wherever he was,
26:40He used to attend his profession,
26:41And used to go back.
26:42Okay.
26:43But Imran Khan,
26:44Who is kept away from the eyes of the public,
26:46And that is because of known reasons.
26:48No one should know,
26:49And people should forget Imran Khan.
26:51Now,
26:52Two different things are clubbed together.
26:54Look,
26:55There is a misuse of social media,
26:56Like you are saying,
26:57You are speaking in the language of BLA.
26:58Look,
26:59BLA is a terrorist organization.
27:00It is a terrorist organization.
27:02It is not a jamaat anyway.
27:03Okay?
27:04But now,
27:05Balochistan has its own deprivation.
27:06If someone talks about the deprivation of Balochistan,
27:08Or the wrong that is happening there,
27:10He will talk about it.
27:11Is he a traitor?
27:12Look,
27:13The operation is one side.
27:14But there are two different factors in this.
27:17One is those people,
27:18Who take up arms,
27:20And kidnap a train of yours.
27:23There,
27:24They make our soldiers,
27:25Our unarmed citizens,
27:27Hostages.
27:28Some of them even take their lives.
27:30One is those people,
27:31Who have foreign weapons,
27:33Who come with their handguns.
27:34That is a cowardly act,
27:35And a terrorist act.
27:36That is what I am saying.
27:37Then,
27:38The second group is those people,
27:39Who have Akhtar Mengal,
27:40Who have Achakzai,
27:42Who have the rest of the leadership,
27:44Who should be talked to.
27:45So,
27:46Let's not mix them.
27:47Let's not mix them.
27:49That is what I am saying.
27:50That is what I am saying.
27:51But,
27:52When you criticize on social media,
27:54That the angle of Tariq-e-Insaaf,
27:56Which Tariq-e-Insaaf is talking about,
27:58That Balochistan should be considered as a province of equality.
28:01Balochistan should be given its rights.
28:03Which,
28:04Imran Khan,
28:05In his time,
28:06In October 2022,
28:07For South Balochistan,
28:08Specifically,
28:09A package of 600 billion rupees was approved.
28:11In which,
28:1213 dams were to be built.
28:13Different routes were to be built.
28:14Education,
28:15Health sector was to be invested.
28:16By the federal STP.
28:17So,
28:18There should be a discussion on those things.
28:20But,
28:21We don't want to do that.
28:22See,
28:23Even if Qaid-e-Azam,
28:24Zoned Balochistan's 4th princely state,
28:25So,
28:26All these things,
28:27Are included in their rights.
28:28This is a give and take.
28:29This is a part of the social contract.
28:31But,
28:32We are unable to talk about it.
28:33Until,
28:34We don't focus on this side,
28:35On the political side,
28:36And on the economic side,
28:37And,
28:38We don't make Balochistan an equal participant,
28:40You can't get rid of terrorism.
28:42Mr. Sharmila,
28:43You think that,
28:44We,
28:45No doubt,
28:46Talk about this,
28:47And,
28:48Obviously,
28:49There is a time,
28:50When we talk about,
28:51The Aagaz-e-Huqook-e-Balochistan Package,
28:52Or,
28:53Other than that,
28:54Which is given to Balochistan.
28:55So,
28:56What do you think is the role of the political leadership there?
28:57Or,
28:58The people there,
28:59Who can connect with the people,
29:00Or,
29:01Who can make them think,
29:02Or,
29:03Who can tell them,
29:04Who are these people,
29:05Who,
29:06Want to use you,
29:07Against Pakistan,
29:08As an enemy.
29:09In this,
29:10Whose role should be there?
29:11Of the political leadership there?
29:12And,
29:13The people there,
29:14Who are raising their arms,
29:15Against Pakistan's,
29:16Solidarity,
29:17And,
29:18Are in a state of turmoil,
29:19Those people,
29:20Can we talk to them,
29:21As well?
29:22Is it possible,
29:23That they become enemies,
29:24And,
29:25We still talk to them?
29:26Look,
29:27Look,
29:28Mr. Satti,
29:29The people who raise their arms,
29:30And,
29:31Kill innocent people,
29:32And,
29:33Kill them,
29:34I don't think,
29:35That we can talk to them.
29:36There should be,
29:37A strict action against them.
29:38Yes,
29:39The local leaders there,
29:40Who,
29:41Love their country,
29:42And,
29:43For the needs,
29:44Of the people of Balochistan,
29:45And,
29:46For their rights,
29:47Are struggling,
29:48You should,
29:49Talk to them,
29:50There is no harm,
29:51In this.
29:52And,
29:53Dialogue is the way forward.
29:54Look,
29:55Balochistan is deprived,
29:56Isn't it?
29:57The people of Balochistan,
29:58Want their,
29:59Participation,
30:00In the resources,
30:01There.
30:02They want,
30:03Their jobs,
30:04There.
30:05They want,
30:06Their conditions,
30:07To be better.
30:08And,
30:09In many ways,
30:11You can't,
30:12Deny that fact.
30:13President,
30:14Zardari,
30:15Started,
30:16Balochistan,
30:17In his last term,
30:18And,
30:19It was,
30:20Better than,
30:21Balochistan.
30:22The successive,
30:23Governments,
30:24Should have,
30:25Worked on it,
30:26More.
30:27And,
30:28If they had,
30:29We wouldn't be,
30:30In the situation,
30:31We are in.
30:32But,
30:33Unfortunately,
30:34Balochistan,
30:35Is being used,
30:36The people of Balochistan,
30:37And,
30:38Those vulnerable people,
30:39And,
30:40Those,
30:41Innocent youth,
30:42Who are,
30:43Being misled,
30:44And,
30:45Used.
30:46We need to see,
30:47How we can,
30:48Address,
30:49The root cause.
30:50Of course.
30:51Fighting a war,
30:52Can't be compared,
30:53To winning a war.
30:54How many wars,
30:55Will you fight?
30:56How many wars,
30:57Will you fight?
30:58Eventually,
30:59You have to sit,
31:00And,
31:01Dialogue.
31:02Of course,
31:03Everyone has to,
31:04Play their role.
31:05What is the role of,
31:06Political leadership?
31:07And,
31:08Political leaders,
31:09In Balochistan,
31:10Who,
31:11Are,
31:12Fighting for,
31:13The people of Balochistan,
31:14But,
31:15Your,
31:16National leadership,
31:17Will have to sit,
31:18And,
31:19Listen.
31:20Listen to them,
31:21Say something of your own,
31:22Come to the table talk,
31:23Sit down,
31:24And talk.
31:25Some,
31:26Issues,
31:27That,
31:28Maybe,
31:29You have to,
31:30Take action on them,
31:31Maybe,
31:32You need to.
31:33Somewhere,
31:34Through dialogue,
31:35You cannot have,
31:36Everyone has,
31:37To play,
31:38Its role.
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