Devin Walker talks with Parade following his elimination from The Challenge All Stars: Rivals.
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00:00Well let's get into this because uh you know this this was an experience this is obviously your
00:04first time on all stars and you know major turning point in the season that comes at the cost of you
00:11and Leroy going out here and I gotta start with your reaction to it because we get your confessional
00:16sort of leading up to this saying I feel in a good spot you know I'm believing in Frank and Sam more
00:22than they are in themselves when they reveal that you're going in we didn't really necessarily get
00:27like the the big reaction you just kind of like nod your head and go down is that the consummate
00:31professional and you have always be prepared or were you truly shocked by getting sent in
00:37we weren't shocked um because what wasn't shown is they all but told us it was going to be us
00:48in that conversation that we had with them um and you see Sam say you know they they
00:54offered us pretty much everything but the grand prize the reason we were doing that is because
00:59the way that it was proposed to us or brought to us was not hey it seems like we're gonna save you
01:07just give us something that can put us over the edge it was we're pretty sure you're going in
01:11try your best to convince us not to put you in um so I wasn't surprised at the arena I was
01:21more surprised in that conversation that two people who we had saved that had made us a very
01:30clear agreement that seemed like kind of decent people um would do that with absolutely zero
01:38remorse yeah I mean to that point looking back on your decision to send in Kellyanne and Sylvia
01:44talk to me about your logic there was it as simple as like well Adam and Steve suggested
01:49Frank and Sam and they're offering us a deal was there something else at play that made you
01:53decide to send in save them and spurn Kellyanne and Sylvia it was just my relationship with Sam
01:59that I thought was I mean I had just met her but I really held her in a high regard um I thought she
02:06was undervalued and she reminded me a little bit of myself when I first came into this game and
02:13that you know the skill set that she possesses isn't um that she's going to win a race and that
02:20so everyone just kind of wrote her off and I feel like that was kind of my story early in the
02:24challenge and I really don't like when when people do that when they look like unilaterally at what
02:31it is to be a challenger and and so uh in getting to know her I really enjoyed hanging out with her
02:37and I thought you know we were friends so I didn't want to send her in so then you know is there a
02:44friendship that still remains from at the end of all this I mean you're you're somebody who you
02:48know uh a famous rival of yours said all is fair in love war and the challenge but was this betrayal
02:53something that has sort of extended outside of the game in the relationship you sprung up with her
02:58oh yeah so I don't co-sign that quote all wars in love uh war in or all is fair in love war and
03:05challenges I don't co-sign that um I think it is I want to choose my words carefully here I
03:17so I think it's kind of
03:24I don't want to play with people that are afraid and I don't want people that are afraid
03:29in as my friends um and I understand it's a game and that you have to put yourself in the
03:34best position or whatever but it's also kind of a metaphor for how you deal with life in my mind
03:39and so why would I want somebody that at the first sign of resistance completely folds under the
03:45pressure I don't want that person in my circle because if you're and truly it's just for your
03:49position in a game show that you really neither one of them believe they're going to win neither
03:56one of them think they're going to win they've said this many times so you don't think you're
04:00going to win what why are you putting us in to advance your position to come in fourth to come
04:06in third like um to compromise your morals for your position in a game show isn't something that
04:11I respect and so I thought Sam was a better person than that and I was proven wrong but I don't forgive
04:18people for what they do in the challenge what in my mind the people who are asking for forgiveness
04:23and say oh it's all it's all good on the show whatever those are the people that are fucking
04:27people over it's so no one that's no one that's keeping their word is saying let's leave it on the
04:34show it's just the people that are lying and and backstabbing to advance their position in a game
04:40so well I guess from that perspective I would love to talk about your relationship with your your
04:46rival that you came into the season with in Leroy and I will admit at least like from a fan perspective
04:51you know perhaps setting it up without realizing it some of these comments you had in season 40
04:55of like well Leroy's playing this shady game so I'm glad that he's going unlike I think a lot of
05:00the other rivalries that have come and gone before you of a lot of at loggerheads clashing we didn't
05:06see a lot of like you two working things out interpersonally talk to me about the dynamic
05:11you have with Leroy yeah it's funny you mentioned that because when we did have a conversation about
05:17why we were rivals he was legit like baffled he it had if you remember it was it was double agents
05:26it was Leroy's retirement season and and him and Cam were were jeopardoing that game from a bunk bed
05:35masterfully so masterfully that I was just collateral damage in a long list of people
05:42that were lied to so he legitimately didn't even remember doing anything that would constitute us
05:51as rivals um but for me because I got I had been eliminated with Josh yeah and me and Josh were
06:01obviously true rivals during that season but you would hatch it out on the plane right on the plane
06:06ride home well it's even weirder than that they put us in the same hotel room so and we didn't
06:14leave for you know three or four days so it's just me and Josh sitting there drinking beers being like
06:18how did we get here and what we what we figured out was Leroy would come to me and tell me
06:25something that Josh had done and then he would go to Josh and tell me something that uh or and
06:31tell Josh something that I had done knowing we would never communicate with each other to find
06:35out who the common link was so that's why I say it was masterful it was a blueprint in how to
06:44manipulate emotionally manipulatable people um and that was me and Josh in that season and so Leroy
06:53knew that by pinning us against each other and creating sides and that he would fit right into
06:59the middle of no one would ever look at him and it worked he just didn't know that I we had figured
07:06it out ah gotcha so then when you were able to hash it out was it like that conversation then
07:11it was just water under the bridge okay now let's work together easy peasy or did you still have
07:15some reservations about as we'll get into you know his own side relationships that he was managing in
07:19the house it's hard to be mad at somebody who doesn't even think they've done anything wrong
07:24to you so I I couldn't I was like okay I see this but you know it's also at that stage in his career
07:34it's it's easy for me to justify a what he did was not personal it was game related and b
07:43he never made me a promise or anything that he went back and like backstabbed me on
07:48he just was doing things that I wasn't privy to and leading me to believe that I was in the loop
07:55um those are two like a bold-faced lie versus kind of guiding someone to feel safe when they aren't
08:04are two very different things to me um and Leroy has put his time in he deserves to win this game
08:11and he deserves to win it putting himself first and so it's easy for me to write it off
08:18as he thought he was done he thought he was retiring that trick won't work again you can
08:24only retire once so uh it it won't he won't get the same grace again but it's easy for me on that
08:30one to put myself in his mind and say okay he's gonna he's gonna burn all the bridges because
08:37why why keep him here he's never won this is his season his now wife is there um you know with him
08:44he's got nani it's like set up for him um it it was just easy for me to forgive him well let's
08:52talk about how Leroy gets involved in a very different way we gotta talk about the Dario
08:56of it all because I I really can't remember Devin you certainly have gone into your fair
09:01share of conflicts but like I can't remember a situation where you got nose to nose with
09:06somebody as you did with this sort of like are you the one and are you the one violence going
09:10on so give me your reaction to this confrontation you ended up having with Dario and how it you know
09:16at least from his perspective turned it to something quite intimidating um Dario's breath
09:23smells I want to start there it stinks uh Dario should never be that close to anyone's face uh
09:33I have looked into the legality of smelly breath it isn't uh an arrestable offense it should be
09:42his breath stinks um offensive truly offensive almost assaulting the scent is assaulting um
09:51and I just I want to make sure everyone does know that was not something that I said um you know
09:57because I was a little worked up it was the truth the truth came out in that moment now when you get
10:02caught lying or trying to be a snake or doing whatever Dario's done this so many times um in
10:09the limited times he's done anything so Dario pretty much does nothing unless he's fucking
10:15over his friends on these shows he sends Cory into elimination against uh Nate on Rivals 3
10:22he sends me and Cheyenne in after full-blown uh alliance that we've fully all gotten together on
10:33sends us in absolutely no remorse does literally nothing in Dirty 30 loses to Tony and then comes
10:40back and fucks Leroy over so he's been on the show three times and he's fucked over three people
10:46that would have played with him it shouldn't be surprising but Leroy was very surprised um
10:53and Dario overreacted to getting caught in his only viable strategy for this game which is to
11:00play an intimidated scared game and lie to his friends it's pathetic uh and if you're gonna be
11:09pathetic and you're gonna be someone that gets close and to people's faces you have to brush
11:15you have to brush your teeth if you're gonna get in people's face you have to well last thing i
11:22want to ask is that listen this was your first time you know making the crossover from the
11:27flagship as we like to call it to all stars you know you said at one point on the show a lot of
11:32duds and you talked on social media about how you felt a bit of a disconnect from maybe some of the
11:36other cast members so i mean now that you've you had the chance to sort of go on a spinoff talk to
11:42me about your thoughts on that and is that just going to make you you know jump back onto the
11:46flagship as soon as chance you get or are you looking to do some of these shorter seasons as well
11:52so we really have to figure out what constitutes all stuff um i mean i'm not gonna lie i was
12:00shocked when i got on the bus at the airport i was shocked dario and ashley k are not all stars
12:08that that is absurd i'm sorry that's absurd that is that is bottom of the barrel those aren't even
12:15middle tier challengers those are bottom of the barrel challengers um we could go down the list
12:22i don't want to offend too many people but like if you haven't won if you haven't done really
12:28anything of notoriety and you're still there and you're getting grouped in is these in the same
12:35category as someone like frank who i think actually is an all-star who's proving that
12:40he is an all-star as someone like veronica who i don't think is is um particularly good at the
12:46game anymore but no doubt an all-star absolute no doubt an all-star a nani a leeroy like you're
12:53gonna be you're getting the same title as these people you've you've done not even close to what
12:59they've done it's hard for me uh it's hard for me to to to wrap my mind around that not to mention
13:06they're just boring they're just boring people in general it's like if you're gonna be an all-star
13:11at least be entertaining the whole season was a snore fest uh for me it's it's fun to watch on tv
13:18but i had no one in there i had sam pretty much that was it after anisa launch i had sam
13:26and sam only and worst prom date ever
13:31yeah i did a prom hooked up with my friend and then sent me into elimination i i could think
13:39of a number of prompts that have ended with being sent into elimination yeah uh you get you got
13:42instead of getting f'd you got f'd over 100 percent well always great talking with you again
13:49uh i i love getting your responses to all this you are not one to mince words especially when it comes
13:54to again a lot of the stuff that you experience sort of towards the tail end of it so looking
13:58forward to when not if we get the chance to to talk again whether it be on like a 42 or beyond
14:03whatever's coming next down the pipeline but uh always great to talk with you man and thank you
14:07so much again for everything you have to offer both on and off screen thanks a lot great to
14:11talk to you too have a great day you as well make sure i guess everybody brush out there who's
14:15listening to this yeah seriously if crest uh is listening or any other um mouth care brands
14:23listerine potentially reach out to dario i'm sure you'll be the only people in his dms he should
14:30see the message not very popular so do reach out he's the perfect person for a sponsorship well the
14:36americal dental association thanks to you i thank you as well devon for everything you have a good one
14:41man bye