Former Presidential Communications Office (PCO) secretary Trixie Cruz-Angeles admitted during the House tri-committee (tri-comm) hearing on fake news and disinformation Friday, March 21 that China sponsors seminars abroad for pro-Duterte vloggers from the Philippines. (Video courtesy of House of Representatives)
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00:00ComSec, can you just post a photo? I just wanted to get clarification on this. Can you
00:14zoom into the photo? Can I address my questions to Ms. Trixie Angeles-Cruz? Is she present?
00:29Mr. Chair, it's Trixie Cruz-Angeles, sir.
00:37Oh, okay. Trixie Cruz-Angeles. Okay.
00:41Pamilyar po ba kayo sa National Radio and Television Administration, or NRTA, ng China?
00:49Yes.
00:52And you are fully aware that they do conduct training programs for media practitioners mula sa iba't imang bansa?
01:01Yes.
01:03At dito po sa larawan, pwede niyo po ba ibahagi sa committee ba kung sino-sino po ang nandito sa larawan?
01:12Medyo malabo po, malayo po yung kung maaari pong lakihan para makita ko.
01:19Okay.
01:31Pwede naman po kayo lumapit dito, Ms. Angeles.
01:49I can name some of them.
02:17Hindi ko na po maalala yung pangalan ng iba kasi it's been some time at hindi po kami magkakakilala lahat nung pumunta kami.
02:31So ang naaalala ko lang yan, si Ms. Pia Morato who is speaking for the group.
02:36She's in front. Tuturo ko ba?
02:38Yes, please.
02:48Si Tio Moreno. Myself.
02:53Who's Tio Moreno?
02:55He was there as a journalist and I think an information officer. He's also, I understand he's a blogger.
03:05Okay.
03:07Mr. Mark Lopez and Atty. Ahmed Paglinawan. But the others hindi ko na po maalala yung pangalan nila.
03:14Mr. Mark Lopez.
03:21Behind me.
03:23Yes, sir.
03:25And who else, ma'am?
03:27I don't remember the names of the others.
03:33Okay. Thank you very much.
03:37Can you more or less tell us, Ms. Cruz, when was this seminar held? Where and when was it held?
03:57In China on May 23rd to June 5th, 2023.
04:04So 2023?
04:05Yes, sir.
04:06So again, what dates?
04:10May 23rd to June 5th, 2023.
04:13So ilang araw po kayo sa China, Ms. Cruz?
04:18May 23rd. Mahina po ako sa math, but from May 23rd to June 5th, I assume that's about seven. Roughly about 12 days.
04:31Twelve days? So more or less around two weeks?
04:34More or less.
04:36And this seminar, was it sponsored or did you have to pay for your seminar fees?
04:43This was sponsored.
04:45So ang nagbayad po nito ay yung state of China?
04:53Yes, sir.
04:54China government. Ang nagbayad sa inyo?
04:57Yes, sir.
04:58Travel ninyo, sustain ninyo, at sa seminar. Okay.
05:03Paano po ba kayo naimbitahan para maging bahagi ng seminar?
05:07Through the Chinese Embassy.
05:10Ah, through the Chinese Embassy. Pinili po kayo ng Chinese Embassy.
05:14They conduct these regularly, I understand. There are others who are also invited from the mainstream media.
05:21Pero hindi po kami magkasabay that time.
05:25So I understand that this is conducted regularly. I think yearly, I'm not sure though.
05:33So it is a state-funded program by China where they invite media practitioners such as yourself, am I correct?
05:43I think this is one of those times where they've invited vloggers.
05:47Okay, vloggers, yes. And can you more or less share with us what was the nature of the seminar?
05:58Oh, they introduced new techniques in social media such as short form social media, how to take them.
06:05A lot of them were technical, emerging issues, but they also gave a background on China.
06:12And that's, I'm sorry, that's all that I can recall.
06:16Okay. So more or less, kulang-kulang isang linggo po kayo do, no?
06:25Mahayos naman po ang...
06:28Kulang-kulang ng dalawang linggo.
06:31Kulang-kulang ng dalawang linggo, sorry.
06:33Mahayos naman po ang pagtrato sa inyo ng bansang China habang nandoong kayo?
06:37Maganda yung hotel, maganda yung accommodation?
06:40Hindi po siya hotel.
06:41Oh, it wasn't a hotel?
06:42Hindi po hotel. Dorm po.
06:45Ah, dorm. Okay. So was this the first time that your group participated in such a seminar?
06:51I don't know about your group, sir.
06:54Oh, sorry. I mean the group that you were with.
06:57Ngayon ko lang po sila nakasabay.
07:01Ah, so you've been there before?
07:02Yes, sir. There is a cultural exchange agreement between China and the Philippines since 1970s.
07:08I was in Xi'an for an archaeological seminar, part of our cultural exchange agreement because I'm an archaeologist.
07:18So, Mr. Mark Lopez, kayo po ay naging bahagi din ng seminar, tama?
07:23Tama po.
07:25Naka ilang bisita na po kayo o naka ilang seminar na po kayo dito sa state-funded activity ng China?
07:33Sir, yan lang po yung atendan ko po.
07:36Again, again?
07:37Yan lang po ang na-attendan ko.
07:40Ito lang po yung nadaluhan ninyo?
07:42Yes, sir.
07:46Sir, pakorek lang po. Yung punta ko sa Xi'an, no, so conference on cultural property.
07:53Would you think that the seminar that you attended affected your perspective or the work that you do?
08:04Ako po, o si Mr. Mark Lopez.
08:07Kayo po, Ms. Cruz. Kasi yun naman po yung layunin ng mga seminars, diba, para mas palawakin ang inyong pag-unawa, mas pagalingin kayo sa trabaho na ginagampanan ninyo.
08:19So, sa panaginip po ba nakatulong ang mga seminars na ito sa trabahong ginagampanan ninyo?
08:25Abogado po ako at isang dalubhasa, I think, sa cultural conservation.
08:35So, yung seminar, it includes a history of China, which also includes an understanding of the area.
08:43Matagal ko na pong napag-aralan yun. So, medyo yung iba don, ulit na.
08:49Pero ang bago ay yung short form, yung pagturo nila ng short form type of video, which is a technical, parang technical na seminar yun, na tinuturuan kung paano gumamit ng ibang mga platforms at yung pagturo ng appreciation ng short form.
09:09Ang short form po, yun po yung mga reels, yung mga TikTok, at saka yung one minute videos ng YouTube.
09:18At I'm sure yung nag-gain ninyo at napakinabangan po ninyong additional knowledge is the same with those other participants in the seminar.
09:29Am I true to understand that, Mr. Lopez? Am I correct to understand that?
09:35Mr. Chair, yung aking takeaway dun po sa seminar na yan is that it's just an appreciation of how China media works.
09:44Q. And from the other participants in today's hearing, were there other individuals there?
09:51A. Kayo po.
09:56Hindi po kasi kayo nakilala sa litrato. Sino po kayo? Have you taken your oath?
10:03Q. And also, may I just ask why you are here today?
10:34We are luminous, the Facebook page and the YouTube page.
10:39Q. So you mentioned that you're partners?
10:42A. Law partners and also on the blog, sir, on the Facebook and YouTube page.
10:49Q. So abugado po kayo?
10:50A. Yes, sir.
10:51Q. Okay. So kayo po ay nandun din po sa seminar?
10:54A. Yes, sir.
10:55Q. Ano pong pangalan nila?
10:57A. Ahmed Paglinawan.
10:59Okay. Thank you very much.
11:00So anyway, that's all I have to ask, Mr. Chair.
11:04Thank you very much. At least inamin po ng ating resource persons na kinabang po sila dun sa state-sponsored seminar.
11:14Mas naindindihan nila yung paggamit ng mga reels, ng mga threads, ng mga short videos.
11:21Ang pakiusap ko lang sana itong dagdag kakayahan na naibahagi po nila sa inyo ay magamit niyo po para sa kapakinabangan ng bansang Pilipinas.
11:33Marami marami salamat.