At a House Weaponization Committee hearing before the Congressional recess, Rep. Bob Onder (R-MO) spoke about the politicization of the Department of Justice.
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00:00I now recognize the gentleman from the great state of Missouri, Dr.
00:03Under. Thank you, Mr Chairman. And thank you all for coming today. Um, Mr
00:08Breen. Um, on September 23rd, 2022, the FBI, uh, raided the home of your
00:14client, Mark Howe, following indictment, um, charging face act violations based
00:20on an alleged shoving incident that took place where he was defending his
00:25son, um, near an abortion clinic. Um, Mr Breen, as I is, if my memory serves
00:32right, other prosecutors had looked at that at that case, the how case prior
00:40to this SWAT team raid. Could you could you refresh my memory on that? Yes,
00:44Congressman. And in fact, it had been prosecuted through the state level
00:48system, and the charges were dropped because the complaining witness refused
00:51to show up. Right. In fact, he'd gone on vacation one time. One time he
00:55actually went to the abortion facility to escort. And when Mark arrived, you
01:01know, they went to court. He wasn't there. Mark arrived, said, Did you
01:05enjoy your morning at court? This guy was a complaining witness. So that was
01:09that was looked through there. But even on the federal side, the the
01:14prosecutor, they had started in front of a grand jury and went fallow. It
01:17just stopped. Right. But then the Dobbs leak hits all this, and we watched it
01:22then restart up, and they get out an indictment so that it was clearly
01:26something that was related to trying to make a point on abortion, not because
01:31he had actually committed a crime. So dropped on the state level, dropped in
01:34the federal level and resurrected. And then did did your client do something
01:38like violent or threatened someone or something to merit 25 SWAT officers
01:45that morning? No. And in fact, it's like I can show you the email from my
01:49colleague who was a former federal prosecutor 15 years in Arizona. He had
01:54corresponded with the with the local U. S. Attorney who had requested a
01:59response, said, Hey, if you want, we'll present him. We're glad to. He's
02:03represented. Certainly no need. There wasn't a need to send, you know, 25
02:08officers. I mean, for heaven's sakes, you send one or two to the door and
02:11knock on it if you really want to go arrest him. Right. But I mean, this was
02:15outrageous, and we've seen video of it. I mean, maybe talk to his lawyer and
02:18ask him to appear in court. Right. Well, and this was our thing. Our local
02:22lawyer said if this guy was anyone but him, he would have been brought into
02:26present. I mean, they let people that are much, much more dangerous and
02:30violent present. I mean, Mark did something, and we found out after we
02:36went into into the case, we realized no one had gone back into the legislative
02:41history of the Face Act. Senator Kennedy and Senator Durenberger literally
02:46on the floor of the Senate, right? Cut a deal and said, We are not getting in
02:50the middle of the sidewalk squabbles, right? And I gotta tell you, he's a good
02:53Republican. You know, we don't like legislative history. It's the thing for
02:56the Republic. I'm a former legislator. I love legislative history. And for
03:00heaven's sakes, for you guys, you guys in the Congress did this. I think you
03:04should be asserting your rights to say, Stop it. You are expanding this law
03:07beyond our intent. Right, right. And so if Mark, how wasn't the kind of
03:13defendant, the suspect that would merit this kind of treatment, this must have
03:19been the Department of Justice sending a political message on abortion. Maine
03:25Justice sent people in to the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. And look,
03:29Philadelphia is a rough area. In fact, our trial judge, who was a experienced
03:33prosecutor, is former Pennsylvania Attorney General. He said, I have never
03:37in my time on the bench had Maine Justice send someone out to prosecute
03:42a case in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. Well, let me talk about
03:45another another case of a very dangerous criminal defendant you might be
03:50familiar with Mr Hawk. On January 23rd, President Trump announced the pardon
03:56for 23 pro life advocates. One of these was Eva Adele, who, at 89 years old,
04:04faced a char a sentence of up to 11 years in federal prison. Eva was a
04:08Soviet concentration camp survivor who was charged with singing and praying
04:13from her wheelchair at the entrance to an abortion facility. Um, you know, in
04:192022, at least 26 pro life advocates face federal charges for face act
04:24violations the same year. Pregnancy research centers experienced serious
04:28attacks, fire bombings, and yet, to my knowledge, did not face any face act
04:36prosecutions from the Biden Justice Department. Am I? Am I correct on that?
04:40Yes, Congressman, I have specifically in mind a client in upstate New York
04:45firebomb their facility took him half a million dollars to rebuild it, and they
04:50told him, Oh, we can't figure out who did it, and we can't get any answers
04:53from the police. You couldn't get our surveillance video back, and it just it
04:57was outrageous. When you look at the amount of federal resources that are
05:00spent on our clients, they couldn't find these these terrorists, actual
05:04literal domestic terrorists. So again,
05:09aggressive, aggressive prosecutorial action against pro lifers, none against
05:14actual arsonists, domestic terrorists. Would that be a politicization of the
05:21Justice Department? Absolutely. That's a politicization, and it's one that
05:24could be fixed with the new D. O. J. And under the guidance of this committee,
05:28subcommittee. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Chair recognizes the
05:33gentleman from the